GoKu

that is Very Nice , SR bolt ons now ...few mods but more option now since the KA has a Few new Shared friends..

mbmbmb23

Great job!!!! Do you think you can post close up pics of the flange side of the manifold (to see what that hammering looks like that you did on the inside)??


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AceInHole

Just have to trust the weld on the opposite side before going at it, i guess

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Ace-

3 things:

1. Based on the new manifold and your experience turboing your KA, do you think that an offset straight T4 would have fitment problems with that manifold (not piping or downpipe fitment problems, but I mean the same sort of problems the topmount manifolds have with coming close to the MC, etc.).

2. Does that OBX manifold have any spots that could accomodate a custom hole for an external wastegate tube?

3. What did you use to hammer the tube square on the inside?...some sort of rounded punch? How long did that hammering take?


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My friend's T3 fits perfectly with TONS of room (he did the same thing I did but also swapped the turbine flange for a T3 flange). The only problem might be clearing the steering rod.... but i think it's possible to do it. I'll know more when I get mine on the car.
Click here for the pic of his T3 on the engine

The guy doing the T3 also wants to eventually run an external wastegate. From the above pic, you can see just how much room there is between the manifold and the strut tower. Could run a pipe off that and stand the wastegate up, then pipe it down hopefully clearing the steering rod. Once again, I'll know more when I get mine on the car.

yeah, we used a rounded punch. I don't know exactly how long it took cause I wasn't there when it was finished, but it couldn't have been more than a few hours. Just weld one side, bang into place, weld other side, then do the same for the top and bottom. This is after heating and squaring the pipes, though, which isn't that hard either (bench vise + heat).

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http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...e.jpg.orig.jpg

you can see here there is ALOTS of room for a WG. but I think for the dump pipe from the WG might be better going around the steering rod. could be an issue if you like your AC ( I havent figured out how much I like it yet ) but you can see in the pic how the line runs if you cant decide eather. but I think I got a good amount of pics around how everything fits. so feel free to take a look. http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4287855733

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GoKu

AceInHole - is the guy willing to charge the same if someone else brought the same SR manifold and reweld the KA flanges? or was it more like a favor thing for you ?

Im leaning towards the IAP manifold(keep in mind im U13 Altima) but after looking at Your manifold it would acutally benifit the FWD KA as well, the turbo is place away from the Alternator and above Upper radiator hose ,and also clears more room for a downpipe, as well the benifits of running shorter I/C piping underneath the U13 chasiss,

Altho since its a custom job ,but yet a very good price and connection, Too bad these arent in production for the KA motors,or else it would be a sweet manifold for S13-S14 and U13 Nissans.

I leanning towards a S13 couple(if i can find one 5spd)
if Not I will settling in boosting my U13 again , (car got stolen before with a custom setup)

Now since most of the Manifolds have been brought up to Topic , How many feel Log type VS equal length ?

Shorter runners? PROS?( EXAMPLE :faster spool up? ) CONS?
Longer runners ? PROS? CONS?

I know some of you guys havent yet quite tried it out ..I hope you guys Come back with some feedbacks.I think this will help greatly in learning what type of manifolds the KA really likes to react to even tho differnt setups (t3,t4, t25,so on..) (<~discuss discuss...put your thinking caps on guys) ..thanks again in advance .

nightwalker

Ace, where did you get your KA flange from? I was the guy doing the budget turbo kit. I might as well get an SS autochrome and copy your setup than trying to work with the cast manifold.

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meme

i had a log style manifold with big dia runners, but used a .48 turbine. spool was still fast.
on my other car i used the manifold i pics of above. this has smaller dia pipes and so i used .63 turbine. i couldn't really tell the diffrence. there was to many things to consider at the time.

over all i like the log. the log i made used 2 90deg bends cut in the middle. this was used for the turbo inlet. not like the jgs manifold

meme

just found the pic

NooKa

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't real nissan use a rev hard manifold?

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ace or meme, please post any source you may know of for the KA bolt flanges, you'll be popular!

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jgs flanges

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kaje36

thats the flanges I used for mine.. a little expencive..

andrave

me too, expensive but thick, high quality, good construction, and they come port matched.

mbmbmb23

Is that OBX peice chromed??

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AceInHole

I got the KA flange from Hotshot for $50. We had ordered 5 at the time as a "group deal" like 2 years ago, but they were ordered at .5" thick. I think the 3/8" ones could be bought from them for the same price.

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AFAIK it's just polished.

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sykikchimp

This looks a lot like the SS Autochrome header does it not? interesting...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2458095147

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AceInHole

Mine is a modified SS Autochrome.... which happens to cost less even with the KA flange and additional welding....

Although, I'm a bottom mount fan anyways (only reason for a top mount is bling) so... the modded SR mani works better for me. That KA mani looks nice, though....

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mbmbmb23

I have to agree, bottom mount is much stealthier and allows the use of SR piping...not to mention (what seems to be) less fitment problems.



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andrave

I've never seen the advantage to top mount, I plan on bottom mounting mine too, especially if I can find a set of stock elbows.

fastpace

Well I don't know if anybody has been waiting on the progress of the etdracing manifold for the ka, but they have finally finished the manifold.

http://www.etdracing.com/ka24.html

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GlacierFreeze

Damn I think we have a winner. Too bad it's not cut between the runners(?) for heat expansion. Looks good though. Only if I had some money haha.

95Blue240sx

with all these new manifolds options i kind of regret getting my revhard. but at lease i know it'll work. hehe im still going to use it, but id like a nice tubular manifold, top mount, for the bling factor.

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GoKu

^^ excatly why I created a Thread for the KA guys, keeping the options open.

The ETD racing is pretty nice , but almost seems like Chris Mays Manifold but a little bit modify ... well Turbo Manifolds are out now...basically all of the options ..so what are you thoughts?

sykikchimp

I emailed them with that exact concern, and they said that they had not seen any decrease in the life span of the manifold because of them not being split. He said they did elongate the mounting holes to account for expansion.

He also said they would cut the b/w the runners if you requested it.

and of course.. number 1 reason for top mount *bling*

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Grant

http://www.store.yahoo.com/phase2mot...oenkat3ma.html

thisi is the most similar manifold to the one chris may had on his car.

AceInHole

Or you can take a bandsaw or sawzall to it

Also, tomorrow I'm going down to the shop and installing the new manifold and turbo. Having a custom compressor outlet made since I can't find one, and a custom downpipe made while I'm at it ($100 for both). Eventually I'll see if I can compare it to an SR one or just buy one to match the better O2 housing I get when I upgrade the turbo (GTiR T28).

Expect pics of everything tomorrow night.

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kaje36

nice I cant wait to see it !.. my oil lines should have been delivered today.. so I could install as soon as I find the time.. working overtime this week for suspention.. as soon as I figure out what that might be... also I still got that guy working on my custom A/f and boost gauge mounting.