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RUTH'LESSDET · 08-17-2007, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by spool_sample

The problem with the question at hand is that 90% of the complete coilover kits you can get for $1000 are pretty much the same. They are full-body height adjustable, monotube, have 15-32 clicks of adjustment, 8/6 spring rates, and generally similar valving. You can pick whichever one you get the best deal on or looks the prettiest, because nitpicking $1000 coilovers is not going to matter much, especially if you only DD the car.

This is what I basically was thinking i should have done before I started this thread but I guess not. But then again some people really care about really technical suspension setups(BUFFS!!) and having there cars perfect in every aspect (suspension wise) I realized now im not a buff and even thought the d2's are not great I still have money left over from my $1000 so i can now pick up some cheap tension rods and still have $50 left

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

Now if you took a short stroke Koni Yellow installed in a shortened housing with GC's you would have one sick ass supension setup. Of course at that point your costs are starting to rise for the custom work. This is where the average Joe opts out for a pre assembled coilover setup.

YUP!

ilia · 08-17-2007, 09:33 AM

I ran koni yellows on my 3 series with 12k front 14k rear springs, and that shit was butter. They've got proper good valving.

mRclARK1 · 08-17-2007, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RUTH'LESSDET

What about people who just street race? I personally know alot of people (not me

) from NY that have cars w/more than 250hp, turbo, etc that have never tracked or drift, or auto x, nothing...they just use there cars for round town driving, highway racing, and just DD. you guys are probably looking at this like

? its true. I had my sil80 in 2002-2004(fully built sr20 hks turbo etc) and that car never touched a track ever and I spent hella $$$ on that car I just use the car for DD and for occasional stop light to stop light race, Going to local 240sx meets(Importfanatix.com),etc(never even entered a show car). Even now I dont think I would track my car still but I just want the car to be WELL Equipped just in case I feel like doing that. Some of you may think thats crazy but out here in NY (Queens, Brooklyn) people tend to drag race for $$$$ more often in my option rather than tracking...I dont know any people that autox and/or drift/grip etc (not including forum people)

I got nothing against some quick driving, and gear shifts from one light to the next... I've done it. However street racing is just the act of a total douche. Period. I'm not saying you are, but really what would you get out of it if you did do it? By street racing I mean excessive speed, running lights, weaving in and out of traffic etc. I just hate it when people build a car with that in mind, since all they're doing is preparing to commit an act that will be putting someone elses life in danger.

This is getting off-topic though, so I'm done. haha

RUTH'LESSDET · 08-17-2007, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mRclARK1

I got nothing against some quick driving, and gear shifts from one light to the next... I've done it. However street racing is just the act of a total douche. Period. I'm not saying you are, but really what would you get out of it if you did do it? By street racing I mean excessive speed, running lights, weaving in and out of traffic etc. I just hate it when people build a car with that in mind, since all they're doing is preparing to commit an act that will be putting someone elses life in danger.

This is getting off-topic though, so I'm done. haha

yeah why off topic ha ha thanx again

fromxtor · 08-17-2007, 10:38 AM

^^Here's what mine looked like during the assembly phase, they have since been cleaned up and painted. My buddy charged my practically nothing to cut off the spring perches and weld the new ones on.

drifting_changed_mylife · 08-17-2007, 11:08 AM

i just got a do D2's for about 800. ill let you know how they go

inertiaticism · 08-17-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman00

I think Drifting is shit. Don't associate it with me in any way. I'm pissed because you made a thread asking questions, and when you don't get the answers you want to hear, you cover your ears and ignore our advice. Why start this thread if you knew you were going to buy shit in the first place?

THIS JUST IN, ICEMAN00 IS ASSOCIATED WITH DRIFTING!
THIS GUY LOVES DRIFTING AND EVERYTHING INVOLVED WITH IT.

Seriously though, Konis are pretty good stuff.
I can think of a few JDM brands that I would rather have, but I'm very happy with mine, especially for the price.

RUTH'LESSDET · 08-17-2007, 03:11 PM

That is funny....be careful he gets mad when you associate him with drifting

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Originally Posted by inertiaticism

THIS JUST IN, ICEMAN00 IS ASSOCIATED WITH DRIFTING!
THIS GUY LOVES DRIFTING AND EVERYTHING INVOLVED WITH IT.

Seriously though, Konis are pretty good stuff.
I can think of a few JDM brands that I would rather have, but I'm very happy with mine, especially for the price.

BustedS13 · 08-17-2007, 03:24 PM

AGX/sportline combo. great for daily driving if you're a grown up.

RUTH'LESSDET · 08-17-2007, 03:58 PM

Agx sportline combo rides pretty nice BUT!!! It doesn't drop the car low enough for me, and thats also gonna bring about a wheel fitment issue for me in the near future as im looking for some sexy ass wheels to sit flush in my wheel wells on stretched tires(ya gotta look the part ya know!!). Cant have my car looking like a monster truck anymore.

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Originally Posted by BustedS13

AGX/sportline combo. great for daily driving if you're a grown up.

BustedS13 · 08-17-2007, 04:41 PM

you sure are picky for a guy with an automatic transmission.

RUTH'LESSDET · 08-17-2007, 04:57 PM

that's true but this time around I'm doing cosmetics first

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Originally Posted by BustedS13

you sure are picky for a guy with an automatic transmission.

babowc · 08-17-2007, 06:54 PM

W3rd..

For a grand, you can only get the Stance Basics, since Stance GR+ would be out of budget (by $100).

Then.. I'd probably go with MAX for competition or Megan for a dd, but why would you need coilovers for a DD again?

crazyikimasho · 08-17-2007, 06:59 PM

Word on the street is that theres a company KBee that has a full case length height adjustable, dampening adjustable coilover in this price range.

Logan has the details, Ill let him fill you guys in. Id go this route if this was in the market for new coilovers in this price range.

A Spec Products · 08-17-2007, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WestCo Justin

Word on the street is that theres a company KBee that has a full case length height adjustable, dampening adjustable coilover in this price range.

Logan has the details, Ill let him fill you guys in. Id go this route if this was in the market for new coilovers in this price range.

Yeah, I wasn't going to say anything but I'll post up the special next week on it

Just got these in, dual adjustable (preload + ride height), dampening adjustment, upper pillowball camber plates, 8/6kg spring rate

S13/S14

Inverted monotube as well

And the logo is a KILLER BEE! WU TANG! WE ON THE SWARM lol

And well in this price range for the initial buyers

I'm going to install a set on my car this weekend and be test subject (and give up my sweet JIC FLTA2's....sniff)

420sx · 08-17-2007, 07:13 PM

why so many whining anti-coilover bitches?? hmm... no wait wait theres not that many that actually track their car.

go drift on your fucking shock spring combo and tell me how you like that fuckin gansta body roll.

but wwaaaaaaa. its not comfortable. waaaaaaaaaawaaaaa. its sucks for daily waaa waaaaa

GET ANOTHER FUCKING CAR. 1 daily. 1 track.

RUTH'LESSDET · 08-17-2007, 07:47 PM

Becaues dude im tried of my car looking like a 4x4

Quote:

Originally Posted by babowc

W3rd..

For a grand, you can only get the Stance Basics, since Stance GR+ would be out of budget (by $100).

Then.. I'd probably go with MAX for competition or Megan for a dd, but why would you need coilovers for a DD again?

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Originally Posted by DC Dan MAX USA

Regarding the review of the coilovers and a comparison to XYZ coilover:
If you are in SO. Cal. do yourself and that thousand bucks of yours a favor and show up at one of the events we are attending and ride along to see how these things drift. Anyone who tells you the product they sell is the best is just bullsh*t*ng you. So come see for yourself. If you are an amateur or pro am drifter, these coilovers are going to be great bang for your buck. If you want your daily driver to ride similar to the stock suspension go buy someone elses street spec coilover. These are called MAX competition suspension coilovers for a reason, they are great for drifting. They have pillowball uppers front and rear with spring spacers for uncompromised performance. They have urethane lower mounts instead of rubber. Compaired to most street spec coilovers with 32 way adjustability The MAX coilover softest setting is equal to the other's hardest setting with the same range of adjustment. They are aggressive. Made for drifting, not for pansys. At the same time they do a decent job damping bumps like the insane launch ramp to the infield of the Orange Show Oval. And if you do manage to somehow blow one up, replacement dampers are only $100 and are in stock, no rebuild downtime needed!

That a quote from the guy that sells MAx is to Extreme for me im not a drifter

RUTH'LESSDET · 08-17-2007, 07:57 PM

lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420sx

why so many whining anti-coilover bitches?? hmm... no wait wait theres not that many that actually track their car.

go drift on your fucking shock spring combo and tell me how you like that fuckin gansta body roll.

but wwaaaaaaa. its not comfortable. waaaaaaaaaawaaaaa. its sucks for daily waaa waaaaa

GET ANOTHER FUCKING CAR. 1 daily. 1 track.

RUTH'LESSDET · 08-17-2007, 07:59 PM

Could you please post some pics and some coilover dynoes for the suspension freaks if you will

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Spec Products

Yeah, I wasn't going to say anything but I'll post up the special next week on it

Just got these in, dual adjustable (preload + ride height), dampening adjustment, upper pillowball camber plates, 8/6kg spring rate

S13/S14

Inverted monotube as well

And the logo is a KILLER BEE! WU TANG! WE ON THE SWARM lol

And well in this price range for the initial buyers

I'm going to install a set on my car this weekend and be test subject (and give up my sweet JIC FLTA2's....sniff)

RUTH'LESSDET · 08-17-2007, 08:00 PM

well dont just stand there post some pics

and info

Quote:

Originally Posted by WestCo Justin

Word on the street is that theres a company KBee that has a full case length height adjustable, dampening adjustable coilover in this price range.

Logan has the details, Ill let him fill you guys in. Id go this route if this was in the market for new coilovers in this price range.

420sx · 08-17-2007, 08:29 PM

im sorry but dmax looks like some jdm ricer shit. buy stuff thats proven to perform well on the track.

if you just want a drop to daily cut your springs. its cheap and nobody gives a shit. not like you track the car. id never suggest it otherwise but hey, its free.

if you want performance its going to cost you. but if you just daily then its not worth it. whats the point of putting money into a car that doesnt see track?

Irukandji · 08-17-2007, 08:34 PM

Powered by Max
Stance GR Sports (don't come with pillow ball mounts)
Ddrug (if you can find it)

timlush · 08-17-2007, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drift freaq

that would depend on if you shortened the strut housing and went with a Koni short stroke insert. With a Stock height Koni Yellow/GC(i.e. Koni app for our cars) setup you would not want to take the car lower than 2 inches though the collars would allow lower than 2 inches you would be out of the optimum stroke range of a Koni Yellow made specifically for our cars.

Now if you took a short stroke Koni Yellow installed in a shortened housing with GC's you would have one sick ass supension setup. Of course at that point your costs are starting to rise for the custom work. This is where the average Joe opts out for a pre assembled coilover setup.
If you don't want to overly slam your car though a Normal Koni/GC setup would probably run around $800-900.

Ok thanks. Just wondering because ALL my RX-7 buddies love their Koni Yellows....

Bobafreak · 08-18-2007, 12:32 AM

how many of you use the spring shock combo on the track. im thinking about getting stance on my 240. its daily right now till i get the 4runner. then it will be my weekend.

A Spec Products · 08-18-2007, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUTH'LESSDET

Could you please post some pics and some coilover dynoes for the suspension freaks if you will

For under $1000 bucks, I don't think there will be a coilover dyno chart

LOL

For the $2500+ Zeals we sell, there are no coilover dynos lol

And even if there was, I don't think anyone would understand it nor benefit from it

Its like a sneaker

Everyone can tell you it is the coolest shoe ever
Everyone can tell you the dimensions of it
Everyone can show you pictures of it
Everyone can show you the cool air bubble in the side

But until you USE it, then no one can judge what's best for YOU

If it fits your budget, style, and driving requirements, then I'd say that's a done deal case closed

ALEXTHESUS*PECT · 08-18-2007, 02:30 AM

is it true,,,,,,,,,,,, the swarm has finally landed at aspec?

Iceman00 · 08-18-2007, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUTH'LESSDET

Could you please post some pics and some coilover dynoes for the suspension freaks if you will

Check my link, it had Dynos for coilovers. Also, honda Tech has a Thread sticky about strut dynos as well.

Wiisass · 08-18-2007, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Spec Products

And even if there was, I don't think anyone would understand it

Hi Logan, I'm Tim.

kandyflip445 · 08-18-2007, 11:25 PM

^lol

I have Koni's and S-Techs. They work great. I didn't want adjustable ride height because I didn't really want to mess with it.

MrChow · 08-19-2007, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUTH'LESSDET

Becaues dude im tried of my car looking like a 4x4

I know the feeling... But riding on stock suspension is sure a lot better than coils... Lol. Also that I've had my front bumper saved cause I on stock height. Lol

But no serious the SUSTEC PRO S-0C look freaking great for DD. If anything I do recommend get some spring helpers on your coils.

08-17-2007, 10:38 AM	#95
fromxtor Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NC Age: 40 Posts: 3,012 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	^^Here's what mine looked like during the assembly phase, they have since been cleaned up and painted. My buddy charged my practically nothing to cut off the spring perches and weld the new ones on. __________________ Seller feedback>>http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...light=fromxtor

08-17-2007, 11:08 AM	#96
drifting_changed_mylife Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: RICHMONDHILL QUEENS Posts: 401 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i just got a do D2's for about 800. ill let you know how they go __________________ your neg reps match my avitar.... keep em commin

08-17-2007, 03:24 PM	#99
BustedS13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix AZ Age: 36 Posts: 10,287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	AGX/sportline combo. great for daily driving if you're a grown up. __________________

08-17-2007, 04:41 PM	#101
BustedS13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix AZ Age: 36 Posts: 10,287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you sure are picky for a guy with an automatic transmission. __________________

08-17-2007, 06:59 PM	#104
crazyikimasho Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,329 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Word on the street is that theres a company KBee that has a full case length height adjustable, dampening adjustable coilover in this price range. Logan has the details, Ill let him fill you guys in. Id go this route if this was in the market for new coilovers in this price range. __________________ *PLEASE NOTE* I am no longer affiliated with West Covina Nissan.

08-17-2007, 09:33 AM	#92
ilia Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago Age: 35 Posts: 334 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I ran koni yellows on my 3 series with 12k front 14k rear springs, and that shit was butter. They've got proper good valving.

08-17-2007, 06:54 PM	#103
babowc Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: G.NET Posts: 2,659 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	W3rd.. For a grand, you can only get the Stance Basics, since Stance GR+ would be out of budget (by $100). Then.. I'd probably go with MAX for competition or Megan for a dd, but why would you need coilovers for a DD again?

08-17-2007, 07:13 PM	#106
420sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Age: 38 Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 420sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	why so many whining anti-coilover bitches?? hmm... no wait wait theres not that many that actually track their car. go drift on your fucking shock spring combo and tell me how you like that fuckin gansta body roll. but wwaaaaaaa. its not comfortable. waaaaaaaaaawaaaaa. its sucks for daily waaa waaaaa GET ANOTHER FUCKING CAR. 1 daily. 1 track. __________________ hydropgrahics! ls1......

08-17-2007, 08:29 PM	#111
420sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Age: 38 Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 420sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im sorry but dmax looks like some jdm ricer shit. buy stuff thats proven to perform well on the track. if you just want a drop to daily cut your springs. its cheap and nobody gives a shit. not like you track the car. id never suggest it otherwise but hey, its free. if you want performance its going to cost you. but if you just daily then its not worth it. whats the point of putting money into a car that doesnt see track? __________________ hydropgrahics! ls1......

08-17-2007, 08:34 PM	#112
Irukandji Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Compton Posts: 4,268 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Powered by Max Stance GR Sports (don't come with pillow ball mounts) Ddrug (if you can find it)

08-18-2007, 12:32 AM	#114
Bobafreak Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 909 Posts: 2,207 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	how many of you use the spring shock combo on the track. im thinking about getting stance on my 240. its daily right now till i get the 4runner. then it will be my weekend. __________________ *VIOLENT RUNNING TRIBE* "Love is god, hatin is satin!"

08-18-2007, 02:30 AM	#116
ALEXTHESUSPECT Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Soul cal!! Age: 43 Posts: 4,387 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: ALEXTHESUSPECT Feedback Score: 5 reviews	is it true,,,,,,,,,,,, the swarm has finally landed at aspec? __________________ *TEAM SUSPECT**

08-18-2007, 11:25 PM	#119
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 36 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	^lol I have Koni's and S-Techs. They work great. I didn't want adjustable ride height because I didn't really want to mess with it. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

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