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rb25crazy · 02-24-2009, 10:43 PM

do it do it ! i wanna get a smog legal engine in my car that makes more power already =D. plus the sound of a 350z motor is quite nostalgic even in stock form =DDD

irax · 02-24-2009, 10:51 PM

what does that even mean?

GSXRJJordan · 02-25-2009, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rb25crazy

isn't there a lot more to this swap? i remember that guy on 240sx.org was talking about the fuel is different. doesn't use pressure to measure it anymore so you had to change the tank or something like that.

Going from a carb'd car to a fuel injected car, you'd need a high-pressure fuel pump. All fuel injected cars have "high pressure" systems though, so no there's nothing you'd need to do fuel-wise (except a higher-flow pump) to prep the car for the swap.

Quote:

Originally Posted by irax

Nissan AntiTheft System but the part you need is called the NVIS which is a little dongle that goes around the ignition lock

Are you saying you've got a connector that will trick the car into thinking the 350z/Maxima/etc steering column crap is connected? Or are you saying that you would still need the VQ-car's column?

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Originally Posted by Yellow4g63

Stock Speedo won't work with the VQ swap right cause there is no Speed sensor in the trans.

Any workaround for that? I don't use my speedo now, but that is an interesting point...

irax · 02-25-2009, 08:06 AM

that column crap bolts on to the 240sx column. so you need the 2 things from the Max/Z/G/M column, NVIS and the ignition lock.

as far as speedo goes there are multiple work aroungs but the simplest is using an abs source and a dakota digital converter.

Gorilla Unit 33 · 02-25-2009, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Yellow4g63

Stock Speedo won't work with the VQ swap right cause there is no Speed sensor in the trans.

an easy fix to that would me to run a s15 rear. Since they have ss in them an then just wire that up if that was the case.

irax · 02-25-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorilla Unit 33

an easy fix to that would me to run a s15 rear. Since they have ss in them an then just wire that up if that was the case.

you will also need the s15 abs computer as well.. but yeah it is very simple compaired to what others think.

Yellow4g63 · 02-25-2009, 01:25 PM

I was thinking about a VH swap but not having A/C blows. Future customer right here.

vq35hrNismo · 03-09-2009, 01:22 AM

dude thats sick right. wouldn't that mean you can fit the 4.2vq in there? with such a light body damn. in my 240 im going rb though. the vq in the 240 sounds hell mean!!

vq35hrNismo · 03-09-2009, 01:26 AM

you know..the more i thought about it..(not sure if discussed earlier). i dont think id go with a vq swap. sounding a little heavy.

DreamN · 03-09-2009, 01:30 AM

What really needs to be done to get this going in cali is someone needs to finish a CARB legal VQ swapped 240SX. Once that happens people will more than likely sell and forget any thoughts about doing an SR swap if they can have something better and legal.

DrifterE · 03-09-2009, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DreamN

What really needs to be done to get this going in cali is someone needs to finish a CARB legal VQ swapped 240SX. Once that happens people will more than likely sell and forget any thoughts about doing an SR swap if they can have something better and legal.

That is the damn truth! I'd sell mine in a hearbeat for the legal vq swap, the more I do to my SR the more I would like it to be legal. Then i've always had the VQ swap in the back of my mind. I'm on the lookout for it. And in line if its plug and play, the harness, everything else is cake to get. Maybe not the difficulty, maybe just time. I got a job to keep in this crazy world now.

GSXRJJordan · 03-09-2009, 03:11 AM

^^^ The biggest problem I can spot with the whole "smog legal"/passing the ref aspect is the emissions equipment - you have to have the entire emission system from the donor car - meaning when you buy a VQ motorset, you'd then have to junkyard-hunt EVERY piece of emissions equipment (and associated accessories) and install them "in the OEM configuration"... that means not only does each piece have to function as OEM, they have to be sitting in the same places/etc as OEM.

... This is MUCH more difficult than just swapping the motor in, and I imagine that's why you don't see anyone passing the BAR refs with it yet.

gotspins13 · 03-09-2009, 05:06 AM

any info on where to pick up an a vq? and the adapters for the wiring?
im looking to get a list going for prices and such,

jzepol1985 · 03-09-2009, 07:50 AM

I don't think any vq's are left on zilvia look on craigslist or your local auto wreckers. It can range anywhere from 2g's and up for a 350z/g35 you can buy a altima/maxima for less but I don't Know if it's more work in the long ru

edsones14 · 03-09-2009, 11:15 AM

Would definately do it! Ive considered this swap ever since i saw it done in one of the tuner mags, cant remember which one. I have a g35 and i love the car. If u could put together a swap that is feasable and reliable im in. If u could make it somewhat as easy as an sr swap that would be money.

LugNut18 · 03-09-2009, 07:41 PM

Now that I picked up another 240, I'm loving this right now. Even though there is already a kit, I would much rather by from a member, especially one who has done the research.

DrifterE · 03-10-2009, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

^^^ The biggest problem I can spot with the whole "smog legal"/passing the ref aspect is the emissions equipment - you have to have the entire emission system from the donor car - meaning when you buy a VQ motorset, you'd then have to junkyard-hunt EVERY piece of emissions equipment (and associated accessories) and install them "in the OEM configuration"... that means not only does each piece have to function as OEM, they have to be sitting in the same places/etc as OEM.

... This is MUCH more difficult than just swapping the motor in, and I imagine that's why you don't see anyone passing the BAR refs with it yet.

This would also mean swapping in stuff thats needed from the VQ emissions equipment and making it work together with the KA equipment?

murda-c · 03-10-2009, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrifterE

This would also mean swapping in stuff thats needed from the VQ emissions equipment and making it work together with the KA equipment?

No you'd get rid of the KA equipment other than the gas cap.

maybe you could get away with keeping your evap or something like that if they work the same.

irax · 03-10-2009, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jzepol1985

I don't think any vq's are left on zilvia look on craigslist or your local auto wreckers. It can range anywhere from 2g's and up for a 350z/g35 you can buy a altima/maxima for less but I don't Know if it's more work in the long ru

here is a rwd motor set. 1900! fucking awesome deal!
http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/23370...d-harness.html

you can get a fwd motor set for 500-900 and spend maybe another 600 to make it rwd compatible and still spend less money by getting my motor mounts

poziden · 03-11-2009, 10:06 AM

im in... msg length

DreamN · 03-11-2009, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrifterE

That is the damn truth! I'd sell mine in a hearbeat for the legal vq swap, the more I do to my SR the more I would like it to be legal. Then i've always had the VQ swap in the back of my mind. I'm on the lookout for it. And in line if its plug and play, the harness, everything else is cake to get. Maybe not the difficulty, maybe just time. I got a job to keep in this crazy world now.

All I would need to have is proof that it was CARB legal and a write up of some sort that I can do it. No need for plug and play.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

^^^ The biggest problem I can spot with the whole "smog legal"/passing the ref aspect is the emissions equipment - you have to have the entire emission system from the donor car - meaning when you buy a VQ motorset, you'd then have to junkyard-hunt EVERY piece of emissions equipment (and associated accessories) and install them "in the OEM configuration"... that means not only does each piece have to function as OEM, they have to be sitting in the same places/etc as OEM.

... This is MUCH more difficult than just swapping the motor in, and I imagine that's why you don't see anyone passing the BAR refs with it yet.

^ yeah, it's a total bitch, but the good thing is that there are a select few trying to get this done. Can't wait till one of them does so I can finally dive in on this VQ thing.

PoorMans180SX · 03-17-2009, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vq35hrNismo

you know..the more i thought about it..(not sure if discussed earlier). i dont think id go with a vq swap. sounding a little heavy.

Dude, they're hardly heavier than KA's. And they can be placed farther back in the chassis. Way better weight distribution than an RB.

irax,

I will be buying a RWD motor set soon.

If your mounts are out I will buy them asap.

And to everyone else. If you're not worrying about carb stuff, then Haltech makes a full plug-n-play system with harness for $2300.

That's most likely what I'll be getting (Unless I decide to run MoTec for some reason) and then I'm installing an AIMsports Dash.

That way I don't have to worry about sensor compatibility so much.

bardabe · 03-17-2009, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

Dude, they're hardly heavier than KA's. And they can be placed farther back in the chassis. Way better weight distribution than an RB.

irax,

I will be buying a RWD motor set soon.

If your mounts are out I will buy them asap.

And to everyone else. If you're not worrying about carb stuff, then Haltech makes a full plug-n-play system with harness for $2300.

That's most likely what I'll be getting (Unless I decide to run MoTec for some reason) and then I'm installing an AIMsports Dash.

That way I don't have to worry about sensor compatibility so much.

or you can use the stock ecm, im working on Irax's wiring at the moment, i plan to make his swap fully functional.

irax · 03-19-2009, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

Dude, they're hardly heavier than KA's. And they can be placed farther back in the chassis. Way better weight distribution than an RB.

irax,

I will be buying a RWD motor set soon.

If your mounts are out I will buy them asap.

And to everyone else. If you're not worrying about carb stuff, then Haltech makes a full plug-n-play system with harness for $2300.

That's most likely what I'll be getting (Unless I decide to run MoTec for some reason) and then I'm installing an AIMsports Dash.

That way I don't have to worry about sensor compatibility so much.

you could spend $2300 on a stand a lone, and it probably would be a great investment. But unless your spending 10k+ on your engine build you probably are not going to need it. You can tune the stock ecu, and get some neat stuff for less than $2300.

gregfarz78 · 03-19-2009, 07:50 PM

Interested in seeing if this project takes off, I changed my mind about swapping a VQ for other reasons but I'd still love to see this become a more common/easier swap.

anyone in PA looking for a VQ get in touch with me I got one for sale

PoorMans180SX · 03-20-2009, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irax

you could spend $2300 on a stand a lone, and it probably would be a great investment. But unless your spending 10k+ on your engine build you probably are not going to need it. You can tune the stock ecu, and get some neat stuff for less than $2300.

Well if you make an all-inclusive kit, then I'll buy it.

MrChow · 03-20-2009, 03:18 PM

I would love to do a good affordable VQ swap. Good power and reliability in one.

johngriff · 03-20-2009, 03:26 PM

If you have the capital and design for the mounts now. Get a production run done in china, cheap metal + economic collapse = least expensive possible manufacturing costs.

Then just wait until next year and start selling the swap equipment.

irax · 03-22-2009, 03:43 AM

yeah, problem with that is I support local.

irax · 03-22-2009, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

Well if you make an all-inclusive kit, then I'll buy it.

what ecu do you want to use? if you want to use a maxima ecu because their cheaper ill sell you my personal engine harness when you buy a kit.

View Poll Results: How ready would you be to swap in a VQ if more information was public, and cheap kits
I would sell my (SR, RB, KA-T) to make it happen ASAP	49	32.03%
I would wait till the economy starts to rise again	17	11.11%
I would weigh the costs vs the risks of having an illegal motor	18	11.76%
I still would not care about swapping a VQ	40	26.14%
I plan on getting a VQ powered car anyways	29	18.95%
Voters: 153. You may not vote on this poll

02-24-2009, 10:51 PM	#62
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02-25-2009, 08:06 AM	#64
irax Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 37 Posts: 4,248 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	that column crap bolts on to the 240sx column. so you need the 2 things from the Max/Z/G/M column, NVIS and the ignition lock. as far as speedo goes there are multiple work aroungs but the simplest is using an abs source and a dakota digital converter. __________________ Drives a BRZ and is building a V6 S12 coupe.

02-25-2009, 01:25 PM	#67
Yellow4g63 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Socal Posts: 1,451 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I was thinking about a VH swap but not having A/C blows. Future customer right here. __________________ 95 240sx RB20 415whp 91 Nx2000 VVL yo

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DreamN Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal - 818 Age: 36 Posts: 10,691 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: DreamN Feedback Score: 54 reviews	What really needs to be done to get this going in cali is someone needs to finish a CARB legal VQ swapped 240SX. Once that happens people will more than likely sell and forget any thoughts about doing an SR swap if they can have something better and legal. __________________ - Jimmy Wanted: TBD For Sale: TBD

02-24-2009, 10:43 PM	#61
rb25crazy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: cali Age: 35 Posts: 1,024 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	do it do it ! i wanna get a smog legal engine in my car that makes more power already =D. plus the sound of a 350z motor is quite nostalgic even in stock form =DDD

03-09-2009, 01:22 AM	#68
vq35hrNismo Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: socal Posts: 40 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dude thats sick right. wouldn't that mean you can fit the 4.2vq in there? with such a light body damn. in my 240 im going rb though. the vq in the 240 sounds hell mean!!

03-09-2009, 01:26 AM	#69
vq35hrNismo Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: socal Posts: 40 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you know..the more i thought about it..(not sure if discussed earlier). i dont think id go with a vq swap. sounding a little heavy.

03-09-2009, 03:11 AM	#72
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	^^^ The biggest problem I can spot with the whole "smog legal"/passing the ref aspect is the emissions equipment - you have to have the entire emission system from the donor car - meaning when you buy a VQ motorset, you'd then have to junkyard-hunt EVERY piece of emissions equipment (and associated accessories) and install them "in the OEM configuration"... that means not only does each piece have to function as OEM, they have to be sitting in the same places/etc as OEM. ... This is MUCH more difficult than just swapping the motor in, and I imagine that's why you don't see anyone passing the BAR refs with it yet. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

03-09-2009, 05:06 AM	#73
gotspins13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NorCAl//Sacramento Posts: 944 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	any info on where to pick up an a vq? and the adapters for the wiring? im looking to get a list going for prices and such,

03-09-2009, 07:50 AM	#74
jzepol1985 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Fresno Posts: 481 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I don't think any vq's are left on zilvia look on craigslist or your local auto wreckers. It can range anywhere from 2g's and up for a 350z/g35 you can buy a altima/maxima for less but I don't Know if it's more work in the long ru

03-09-2009, 11:15 AM	#75
edsones14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: nc Posts: 72 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Would definately do it! Ive considered this swap ever since i saw it done in one of the tuner mags, cant remember which one. I have a g35 and i love the car. If u could put together a swap that is feasable and reliable im in. If u could make it somewhat as easy as an sr swap that would be money.

03-09-2009, 07:41 PM	#76
LugNut18 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: MD Age: 30 Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Now that I picked up another 240, I'm loving this right now. Even though there is already a kit, I would much rather by from a member, especially one who has done the research.

03-11-2009, 10:06 AM	#80
poziden Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: oc Posts: 253 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	im in... msg length

03-19-2009, 07:50 PM	#85
gregfarz78 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Your mom's basement Posts: 263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Interested in seeing if this project takes off, I changed my mind about swapping a VQ for other reasons but I'd still love to see this become a more common/easier swap. anyone in PA looking for a VQ get in touch with me I got one for sale

03-20-2009, 03:26 PM	#88
johngriff Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 4,103 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: johngriff Feedback Score: 4 reviews	If you have the capital and design for the mounts now. Get a production run done in china, cheap metal + economic collapse = least expensive possible manufacturing costs. Then just wait until next year and start selling the swap equipment. __________________ [email protected]

03-22-2009, 03:43 AM	#89
irax Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 37 Posts: 4,248 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	yeah, problem with that is I support local. __________________ Drives a BRZ and is building a V6 S12 coupe.

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