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gsracer · 09-19-2008, 06:42 PM

Yes Im going to run dual exhaust but out to the stock location pics below.

For the ps the hose you see is regular teflon braided hose, summit racing sells this stuff, this is only for the low pressure return side, for the high pressure im getting one made although the stock 240sx hose would probably work.

Got the preliminary cutting and flanges welded on the xpipe. Got to go pick up my mufflers and the rest of the mandrel bends i need to finish this tommorow.

Here it is installed on the car.

As you can see there is no illusion of grond clearance here, my car is pretty low ( as low as the tein coilovers will go) and i have about 3 and some change inches of ground clearance. It should be fine as the other one hung about as low and only became an issue on some speed bumps and going on and off the trailer. Besides it aint any lower than the headers

g6civcx · 09-19-2008, 06:59 PM

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Def · 09-19-2008, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g6civcx

How is BSFC related to throttle position and minor fluctuations in speed?

There's a BSFC curve for every throttle position. RPM is related to speed. Unless that's a rhetorical question, in which case I've got nothing.

g6civcx · 09-20-2008, 07:15 AM

removed as requested

racepar1 · 09-20-2008, 10:15 AM

Ok guys, who gives a rat's fucking ass about fuel consumption here? The OP doesn't and neither do I!!! Take your bickering to PM so the rest of us can enjoy the build. And seriously g6civicx, arguing about fuel consumption when you have a carburated 350 chevy under the hood? Get real!

*Antihero983* · 09-20-2008, 10:16 AM

^see! that whats I was saying!!!!!!!!!!!

Def · 09-20-2008, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g6civcx

What I mean is that you generally don't hold a steady cruising speed.

You generally slow down a little bit and speed up a little bit even when cruising.

So it's not practical to calculate the max point of the BSFC curve for a single speed.

So would a single max point on the BSFC or more like an RPM range, say 500RPM or 1000RPM range, that would make more sense to analyze for fuel consumption?

I never said anything about a max POINT of BSFC. It's a curve, there will be a minimum which will move around wrt RPM depending on other variables.

Changing speed slightly or not, the BSFC curves for say every 10% throttle opening will show you where an engine is most efficient.

Enough of the tangent, BSFC and how it relates to fuel economy isn't that complicated. I'm sure there's a wikipedia article on it or something.

SicBastard · 09-20-2008, 01:24 PM

I recently subscribed to motortrend, and every issue has more than one BS article about gas milage. Pisses me off. Who gives a shit. This isn't a thread about tuning. So why are we talking about BSFC?

Looks like we have some motortrend readers here in zilvia.

g6civcx · 09-20-2008, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racepar1

Ok guys, who gives a rat's fucking ass about fuel consumption here? The OP doesn't and neither do I!!! Take your bickering to PM so the rest of us can enjoy the build.

I asked a question. I have no position so how can I bicker?

If you don't like the questions then I am sorry but I did not bring up the topic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by racepar1

And seriously g6civicx, arguing about fuel consumption when you have a carburated 350 chevy under the hood? Get real!

First, nowhere am I arguing. I am asking because I want to know.

Second, I have many cars, not just one. What makes you assume everything is about that one car? Any additional followup may be done on PM as this does not concern anyone else.

If you don't like what you see, please ask a mod to prune. I'm just responding to what others have said.

I am leaving this post as a rebuttal to accusations about me that may or may not be true. I do apologise for participating with others who brought up a tangential topic. Please go to the other thread if you want fuel economy.

g6civcx · 09-20-2008, 01:32 PM

I made a new thread and copied all relevant comments in there. Please feel free to have a mod prune this thread.

Def · 09-20-2008, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SicBastard

I recently subscribed to motortrend, and every issue has more than one BS article about gas milage. Pisses me off. Who gives a shit. This isn't a thread about tuning. So why are we talking about BSFC?

Looks like we have some motortrend readers here in zilvia.

I feel sorry for you if your only introduction to internal combustion engine topics is Motortrend...

I never read that trash.

SicBastard · 09-20-2008, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Def

I feel sorry for you if your only introduction to internal combustion engine topics is Motortrend...

I never read that trash.

It was $10 bucks for the year.
I got ripped off.

gsracer · 09-20-2008, 04:23 PM

Ground clearance is for sissies

Dual 3 inch exhaust, xpipe, dual magnaflow mufflers

bardabe · 09-20-2008, 04:35 PM

looks fuckin awesome dude.

turtle m3th · 09-20-2008, 05:18 PM

That's some great work! can't wait to see some new vids of that thing in action!

jspec240 · 09-20-2008, 05:27 PM

Fuckin nice Exhaust set up man. what kind of wheels are you running? specs?? Great fittment.

Over all great job man A+

*s13 @ fullboost* · 09-20-2008, 05:58 PM

this One is sooooo much better than the last one =]

Landers · 09-20-2008, 06:09 PM

Wowzers that is clean as fuck

Rock on.

gsracer · 09-20-2008, 06:38 PM

Thanks for the compliments everyone, i do think this time around the car is coming out better

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspec240

Fuckin nice Exhaust set up man. what kind of wheels are you running? specs?? Great fittment.

Over all great job man A+

front 18 by 10+18
265/35/18

Rear 18 by 11 +18
315/30/18

Finnally got the car on the ground its got plenty clearance, never again will i be able to take a speed bump though. The pictures look like the mufflers hang lower than the bumper , but its not really that much, they are tucked nicely under the car.

JRas · 09-20-2008, 06:41 PM

awesome work

I'm still not sure if I like the exhaust sitting that low.. call me a sissy but I'd prefer not to worry about scraping it on a speed bump.

still very cool and unique

keep it up

random question: I noticed you had some different tires on the car is that temporary or is their a story behind that?

clark · 09-20-2008, 06:45 PM

this build makes me wet

energy0uth · 09-20-2008, 08:14 PM

very very nice....not on here enough but I should be for builds like this

TUnity2 · 09-21-2008, 12:16 AM

very nice. Do you plan on adding some tips?

Possibly twin slash cuts angeled up and out?

Oo_Skyline_oO · 09-21-2008, 12:30 AM

fu*kin shwwweeet, get it to sound like this please: YouTube - 1UZ Toyota V8 with ITBs

oh and sorry to bring up the fuel economy thing again, but would it be possible to mount a T56 trani to it??? I beleive that would fix the problem, if a corvette can get 30mpg on a 5.7 this is a 4.5, should get upwards of 30????

http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&safe=off&resnum=0&q=30%20mpg%20c orvette&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#q=corvette%20vs%20prius&hl=en&emb= 0

gsracer · 09-21-2008, 12:44 AM

yes, anything is possible but the extra 2 grand youd have to spend would negate 5 years worth of the difference between the two fuel economy wise.

xplicit240 · 09-21-2008, 12:56 AM

amazing. simply amazing.

jspec240 · 09-21-2008, 01:45 AM

Nice sizes. what brand and model though?? there isnt a pic on here that shows what they are. to me the last side pic where you can see like a quarter of the wheel look like my favorite wheels of all time that I missed the bid on ebay

but if you have them I think that would be cool and would deserve a home with you... haha

The deep g7's

Modrified · 09-21-2008, 03:00 AM

a lot of goodies you got there. nice. love the pics and keep them coming. thanks.

gsracer · 09-21-2008, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspec240

Nice sizes. what brand and model though?? there isnt a pic on here that shows what they are. to me the last side pic where you can see like a quarter of the wheel look like my favorite wheels of all time that I missed the bid on ebay

but if you have them I think that would be cool and would deserve a home with you... haha

The deep g7's

They are work meister s1 3 peice

gsracer · 09-21-2008, 02:52 PM

got it cranked back up, sound is amazing the video doesnt do it justice. The smoke is the oil in the exhaust being burned up, at least i hope lol

YouTube - 450sx new dual 3 inch exhaust

09-19-2008, 06:42 PM	#151
gsracer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami Age: 37 Posts: 1,579 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Yes Im going to run dual exhaust but out to the stock location pics below. For the ps the hose you see is regular teflon braided hose, summit racing sells this stuff, this is only for the low pressure return side, for the high pressure im getting one made although the stock 240sx hose would probably work. Got the preliminary cutting and flanges welded on the xpipe. Got to go pick up my mufflers and the rest of the mandrel bends i need to finish this tommorow. Here it is installed on the car. As you can see there is no illusion of grond clearance here, my car is pretty low ( as low as the tein coilovers will go) and i have about 3 and some change inches of ground clearance. It should be fine as the other one hung about as low and only became an issue on some speed bumps and going on and off the trailer. Besides it aint any lower than the headers __________________ ANTI-STRETCH NAZI Vortech Supercharged Vh45de S14 V8nissans.com

09-19-2008, 06:59 PM	#152
g6civcx Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 5,764 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	removed as requested Last edited by g6civcx; 09-20-2008 at 01:46 PM..

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09-20-2008, 10:16 AM	#156
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09-20-2008, 01:24 PM	#158
SicBastard Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 803 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I recently subscribed to motortrend, and every issue has more than one BS article about gas milage. Pisses me off. Who gives a shit. This isn't a thread about tuning. So why are we talking about BSFC? Looks like we have some motortrend readers here in zilvia. __________________ BURN OUT IN YOUR FACE! 1998 S14 LS7/T56 swap in progress, build thread: http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/147301...d-gto-pan.html

09-20-2008, 10:15 AM	#155
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 38 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	Ok guys, who gives a rat's fucking ass about fuel consumption here? The OP doesn't and neither do I!!! Take your bickering to PM so the rest of us can enjoy the build. And seriously g6civicx, arguing about fuel consumption when you have a carburated 350 chevy under the hood? Get real!

09-20-2008, 01:32 PM	#160
g6civcx Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 5,764 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I made a new thread and copied all relevant comments in there. Please feel free to have a mod prune this thread.

09-20-2008, 04:23 PM	#163
gsracer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami Age: 37 Posts: 1,579 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Ground clearance is for sissies Dual 3 inch exhaust, xpipe, dual magnaflow mufflers __________________ ANTI-STRETCH NAZI Vortech Supercharged Vh45de S14 V8nissans.com

09-20-2008, 04:35 PM	#164
bardabe Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Age: 31 Posts: 4,716 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: bardabe Feedback Score: 10 reviews	looks fuckin awesome dude. __________________ Review Thread

09-20-2008, 05:18 PM	#165
turtle m3th Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Age: 34 Posts: 1,608 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	That's some great work! can't wait to see some new vids of that thing in action! __________________ "cigarettes killed my father, and raped my mother!"

09-20-2008, 05:27 PM	#166
jspec240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: SIN CAL Age: 40 Posts: 2,096 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: jspec240 Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Fuckin nice Exhaust set up man. what kind of wheels are you running? specs?? Great fittment. Over all great job man A+ __________________ DREW SLIDE TO SIDE WORLD WIDE Feedback!! http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=182673 661 sliders Gymkhana @ buttonwillow http://zilvia.net/f/south-western-st...-sessions.html >> Bakersfield Hook up thread <<

09-20-2008, 05:58 PM	#167
s13 @ fullboost Spirit Of Ecstasy Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 2,531 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	this One is sooooo much better than the last one =] __________________

09-20-2008, 06:09 PM	#168
Landers Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: W Mass. Age: 33 Posts: 561 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: Landers Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Wowzers that is clean as fuck Rock on. __________________ d-faction.com

09-20-2008, 06:41 PM	#170
JRas Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Arizona Age: 32 Posts: 1,503 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	awesome work I'm still not sure if I like the exhaust sitting that low.. call me a sissy but I'd prefer not to worry about scraping it on a speed bump. still very cool and unique keep it up random question: I noticed you had some different tires on the car is that temporary or is their a story behind that? __________________

09-20-2008, 06:45 PM	#171
clark Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: new york Posts: 1,035 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	this build makes me wet

09-20-2008, 08:14 PM	#172
energy0uth Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ellicott City Age: 32 Posts: 189 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	very very nice....not on here enough but I should be for builds like this

09-21-2008, 12:16 AM	#173
TUnity2 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chalmette, la Posts: 511 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	very nice. Do you plan on adding some tips? Possibly twin slash cuts angeled up and out?

09-21-2008, 12:30 AM	#174
Oo_Skyline_oO BANNED Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Santa Ana, CA Posts: 639 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	fu*kin shwwweeet, get it to sound like this please: YouTube - 1UZ Toyota V8 with ITBs oh and sorry to bring up the fuel economy thing again, but would it be possible to mount a T56 trani to it??? I beleive that would fix the problem, if a corvette can get 30mpg on a 5.7 this is a 4.5, should get upwards of 30???? http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&safe=off&resnum=0&q=30%20mpg%20c orvette&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#q=corvette%20vs%20prius&hl=en&emb= 0

09-21-2008, 12:44 AM	#175
gsracer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami Age: 37 Posts: 1,579 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	yes, anything is possible but the extra 2 grand youd have to spend would negate 5 years worth of the difference between the two fuel economy wise. __________________ ANTI-STRETCH NAZI Vortech Supercharged Vh45de S14 V8nissans.com

09-21-2008, 12:56 AM	#176
xplicit240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Weird NJ! Age: 36 Posts: 723 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	amazing. simply amazing. __________________

09-21-2008, 01:45 AM	#177
jspec240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: SIN CAL Age: 40 Posts: 2,096 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: jspec240 Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Nice sizes. what brand and model though?? there isnt a pic on here that shows what they are. to me the last side pic where you can see like a quarter of the wheel look like my favorite wheels of all time that I missed the bid on ebay but if you have them I think that would be cool and would deserve a home with you... haha The deep g7's __________________ DREW SLIDE TO SIDE WORLD WIDE Feedback!! http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=182673 661 sliders Gymkhana @ buttonwillow http://zilvia.net/f/south-western-st...-sessions.html >> Bakersfield Hook up thread <<

09-21-2008, 03:00 AM	#178
Modrified Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: n/a Posts: 245 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	a lot of goodies you got there. nice. love the pics and keep them coming. thanks.

09-21-2008, 02:52 PM	#180
gsracer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami Age: 37 Posts: 1,579 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	got it cranked back up, sound is amazing the video doesnt do it justice. The smoke is the oil in the exhaust being burned up, at least i hope lol YouTube - 450sx new dual 3 inch exhaust __________________ ANTI-STRETCH NAZI Vortech Supercharged Vh45de S14 V8nissans.com

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