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*exitspeed* · 06-03-2008, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimpleS14

No, sleek RWD hatch would be more fitting. Can't take away sales from other car's in the lineup.

I meant on top of a new 240.

infinitexsound · 06-03-2008, 06:59 PM

well i hope they freaking do something about it because nissan as an entity in the performace racing aspects in north america isnt really happening... theyre image is like a ghost... they are there, but arent... last time i really remember them in any major form of racing was back when they were in world challenge touring.. with that aweful lookin sentra revival.. granted they won a few races and got F**k over by peter cunningham..... rumors*. but i wanna see them back in the game... plus i want a new sporty small car..that has a nissan badge or infiniti.... no more fwd unless your gonna include 4wd... ive kept up with this thread... iv read most of it...

*exitspeed* · 06-03-2008, 07:10 PM

If Nissan's redesign of the Z, and the new 240 have 3/4 the amount of effort and success as the GTR, when those two cars come out Nissan will possibly have the greatest line-up of any affordable car company. They could REALLY push that sporty image again. Plus they would be able to pretty much cover any kind of class in racing. Other then Nascar of course.

ESmorz · 06-03-2008, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

If Nissan's redesign of the Z, and the new 240 have 3/4 the amount of effort and success as the GTR, when those two cars come out Nissan will possibly have the greatest line-up of any affordable car company. They could REALLY push that sporty image again. Plus they would be able to pretty much cover any kind of class in racing. Other then Nascar of course.

Unless it's FWD. Then they better be prepared to be firebombed by angry mobs.

SimpleS14 · 06-03-2008, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

I meant on top of a new 240.

????

I still rather see a sleek hatch shape (ala Z3 coupe) besides a small RWD sedan.

I can't imagine a sedan smaller than the G35...probably because my imagination is skewed. Then again it would be fitting in Europe. I've only seen 1 BMW 1-series around here I see daily during traffic. Cute car (and driver

)...but I can't see it being successful in the states.

*exitspeed* · 06-03-2008, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimpleS14

????

I still rather see a sleek hatch shape (ala Z3 coupe) besides a small RWD sedan.

I can't imagine a sedan smaller than the G35...probably because my imagination is skewed. Then again it would be fitting in Europe. I've only seen 1 BMW 1-series around here I see daily during traffic. Cute car (and driver

)...but I can't see it being successful in the states.

I meant in addition to having a 240 sleek hatch/coupe a snamm Infiniti RWD sedan. If you are having a hard time picturing it, think G20, with current G35 Sedan styling around 250hp, starting around $26k and topping out in the low $30's.

***dorkidori_s13*** · 06-03-2008, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

...think G20, with current G35 Sedan styling around 250hp, starting around $26k and topping out in the low $30's.

and in rwd...ooooo...that sounds yummy =D

CKAMC · 06-03-2008, 09:58 PM

if they do a G20 resurrection.... I think I will be all over it... even if its fwd

then again, when I owned one (p11) it was one of my favorites

infinitexsound · 06-03-2008, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

If Nissan's redesign of the Z, and the new 240 have 3/4 the amount of effort and success as the GTR, when those two cars come out Nissan will possibly have the greatest line-up of any affordable car company. They could REALLY push that sporty image again. Plus they would be able to pretty much cover any kind of class in racing. Other then Nascar of course.

no kidding...and were waiting... FOR EVER... NASCAR blah look what happend toyota joined that league didnt take them long to dominate... other make drivers are bitching about how much hp their engine makes...i can tell you this since watching nascar for about 2 years now...they got it all figured out...

ive seen a few nissan cars running the Grand AM, but thats about it...

*exitspeed* · 06-04-2008, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CKAMC

if they do a G20 resurrection.... I think I will be all over it... even if its fwd

then again, when I owned one (p11) it was one of my favorites

I think a lot of people on this forum would be over a RWD G20 Revival. Look at how many people have moved on to sedans like Evo's and STI's, etc.

I think I'd be equally excited about an Infiniti like this as I would be about the new 240.

DreamN · 06-04-2008, 07:46 AM

^ a g20 revival would be a smart move for nissan/infiti too. they need a light sporty sedan in their line up. The G20t models were great looking cars. I'd really like one just based on styling, but I just don't like how fwd cars feel and handle for the most part. Can't wait to see some shots of this "BMW Killer" though.

IStop4NoMan · 06-04-2008, 12:00 PM

It would be interesting to see a sentra turned into a G20 type car. i think that platform has potential, they just gave it a bland style on the outside. (i have one haha).
it already has a smooth ride, very quiet, and has decent power. just throw in a bit more power, nicer outside and inside and that would be a seller for all those looking for something cheaper than a G35 but still want a luxury type small car.
But i still want a new 240 variant damnit!

*exitspeed* · 06-04-2008, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IStop4NoMan

It would be interesting to see a sentra turned into a G20 type car. i think that platform has potential, they just gave it a bland style on the outside. (i have one haha).
it already has a smooth ride, very quiet, and has decent power. just throw in a bit more power, nicer outside and inside and that would be a seller for all those looking for something cheaper than a G35 but still want a luxury type small car.
But i still want a new 240 variant damnit!

I'm in no way interested in an Infiniti version of the Sentra. Infiniti cars should be RWD.

*exitspeed* · 06-04-2008, 12:40 PM

Autoblog has a new rendering and are calling the Suby Coupe an Impreza.

Subaru and Toyota's rear-wheel-drive lovechild is on its way, and AutoExpress has tapped Larson to render the new coupe to give us an idea of what we'll be saving up for come 2010.

As previously reported, both versions will be sporting separate sheet metal to differentiate the two coupes from one another. We'd suspect that the Toyota version will be fitted with a traditional trunk, while the Subaru version will get a hatch similar to that found on the WRX/STI. The image above takes all the right cues from the current Impreza, particularly the aggressive roofline and hunkered stance, and ratchets it up a notch with a new front bumper, swept back headlamps and bulging fender flares.

As we're already aware, both the Toyota version (which supposedly won't make it to U.S. shores) and the Subaru variant will be powered by a naturally aspirated 2.0-liter boxer, sending around 180 hp to the rear wheels. AutoExpress claims that a 300-hp version equipped with the turbocharged 2.5-liter flat-four is also destined for production, along with an all-wheel-drive version further down the road. For those of us that have been dreaming of an STI-powered GC8 coupe, this could spare us the considerable headache and expense when it goes on sale in 2012.

More info from Auto Express
t's the most stylish Subaru ever! And this striking Impreza coupé will go into production in 2010.

Joining the recently launched hatch-back model, it will allow the Japanese company to tackle the BMW 3-Series Coupé and Nissan 350Z head-on, as well as reach out to new customers.

The car has been developed as part of a joint venture with Subaru owner Toyota – the project will also spawn a long-awaited successor to the Nineties Celica. The Impreza coupé takes styling cues from the five-door model, but gets a rakish rear end. That gives it a chunky yet athletic appearance which stands out from the crowd.

Power will come from a choice of two engines, both employing the flat-four boxer layout for which Subaru is famous. There’s a normally aspirated 2.0-litre unit giving around 180bhp, or a high-performance 2.5-litre turbo powerplant borrowed from the range-topping five-door STi. The latter will deliver in the region of 300bhp.

For the entry-level machine, the Impreza’s four-wheel-drive system will be dropped in favour of a more lightweight and less expensive rear-drive set-up. That will put the emphasis on maximum driving thrills. But the more powerful car will send power to four tyres to harness all that punch.

The newcomer will go on sale first in Japan and the US, and could arrive here in the UK in 2011. In entry-level guise, it’s set to cost around £20,000, with the flagship priced at £25,000.

In a related story, Nissan is working on an affordable rear-wheel-drive coupé to sit below the 350Z. The Silvia replacement will go on sale in 2010

stiizy · 06-04-2008, 12:48 PM

STi coupe i'll take 1 of those!!

slidingsky · 06-04-2008, 12:51 PM

The new STi Hatch is growing on me but I would have stood in a line to buy one if it looked like that.

kyoru · 06-04-2008, 12:54 PM

I just saw that, thats how they should have made the styling in the first place.

Dutchmalmiss · 06-04-2008, 01:15 PM

Hmm I smell a revival of the 22b.

CKAMC · 06-04-2008, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

I'm in no way interested in an Infiniti version of the Sentra. Infiniti cars should be RWD.

See for some of us that have owned a G20 or have driven one its different than the whole sentra she-bang deal.

with a sentra its ugly but cheap

with a g20 its cheap, but built better along with not so ugly. heck they even had awd g20's but that was something that people in japan and the aussies were able to enjoy.

also... well to me it served great in terms of daily driver, girls liked it because it wasn't some primered ass car that had an ugly interior or rode bumpy (which is why many hate 240's), and for the male end it had looks along with plenty of support for power and suspension mods.

anyways at the current time being, a small, light weight, sporty, infiniti, awd (better than fwd), entry level pricing would have a good market. rwd is more for the g35 sedan imo.

*exitspeed* · 06-04-2008, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CKAMC

See for some of us that have owned a G20 or have driven one its different than the whole sentra she-bang deal.

with a sentra its ugly but cheap

with a g20 its cheap, but built better along with not so ugly. heck they even had awd g20's but that was something that people in japan and the aussies were able to enjoy.

also... well to me it served great in terms of daily driver, girls liked it because it wasn't some primered ass car that had an ugly interior or rode bumpy (which is why many hate 240's), and for the male end it had looks along with plenty of support for power and suspension mods.

anyways at the current time being, a small, light weight, sporty, infiniti, awd (better than fwd), entry level pricing would have a good market. rwd is more for the g35 sedan imo.

If they made an Infiniti small sedan based on the Sentra it would still have the ghastly Sentra proportions ie high roof, high beltline, short front and rear, and too narrow...ie UGLY. It won't be sporty enough or go along with the low slung proportions of the current Infiniti line-up. They need to wait, and make it based off of the new 240 platform, which from everything I've gathered will be basically a shortened FM platform car. This will probably be the same platform that underpins the new Infiniti 1 Series fighter.

iwishiwas-all* · 06-04-2008, 09:04 PM

http://news.windingroad.com/body-sty...aru-rwd-coupe/ rep me

***dorkidori_s13*** · 06-04-2008, 09:31 PM

well...with them there pics of the toybaru sneaked...i somehow get the feeling the new silvia test mule pics will be close behind as im sure nissan isnt going to sit around and take this lightly

Baka Sama · 06-04-2008, 09:32 PM

Cool, does if come with the little asian kid too?

Looks like a ford focus with the camo. I like the concept better.

Gnnr · 06-04-2008, 09:34 PM

Its a test mule so we wont be able to tell anything about how its gonna look yet.

Baka Sama · 06-04-2008, 09:42 PM

blah, Id rather have subarus hatch over toyotas coupe. That is if toyota brings theirs to the US.

Guess I need to go open a savings account.

infinitexsound · 06-04-2008, 10:51 PM

cute car looks like a jetta... gimme sleek sharp and narrow...
like a typical s chassis im game. the subtoy is okay looking the toy version looks alot better tho... it definetly would be nice with 300hp in the engine bay nice quality the manufacture decided to do with...

1989rps13 · 06-05-2008, 03:26 AM

the new silvia will be a "mini 350z" ???
http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissan-t...t-by-2010.html

i cant find the pics anymore but it showed spy photos of a look a like 350Z but much smaller and i believe that was the new silvia in hatchback style

and the 350z will move up to be the 370Z or something like that

also the new silvia may be hybrid!? :-0
http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissan-2...owertrain.html

Baka Sama · 06-05-2008, 03:39 AM

wtf -reg for posting old news

SimpleS14 · 06-05-2008, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

I meant in addition to having a 240 sleek hatch/coupe a snamm Infiniti RWD sedan. If you are having a hard time picturing it, think G20, with current G35 Sedan styling around 250hp, starting around $26k and topping out in the low $30's.

I know haha...I just saying I don't see that happening in the states and not looking forward to such a vehicle (probably one of the few). In Europe I can see such a car existing.

*exitspeed* · 06-05-2008, 08:06 AM

Since no one is posting the pic directly.

This is obviously a very early test mule just to test the platform and not the styling. You can see that most of the body panels are from a Legacy. I DOUBT this coupe will share any styling similarities with the Legacy. Although I don't think any one here would think that is a bad thing.

06-03-2008, 06:59 PM	#692
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 39 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well i hope they freaking do something about it because nissan as an entity in the performace racing aspects in north america isnt really happening... theyre image is like a ghost... they are there, but arent... last time i really remember them in any major form of racing was back when they were in world challenge touring.. with that aweful lookin sentra revival.. granted they won a few races and got F*k over by peter cunningham..... rumors. but i wanna see them back in the game... plus i want a new sporty small car..that has a nissan badge or infiniti.... no more fwd unless your gonna include 4wd... ive kept up with this thread... iv read most of it... __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

06-03-2008, 07:10 PM	#693
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 41 Posts: 20,898 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	If Nissan's redesign of the Z, and the new 240 have 3/4 the amount of effort and success as the GTR, when those two cars come out Nissan will possibly have the greatest line-up of any affordable car company. They could REALLY push that sporty image again. Plus they would be able to pretty much cover any kind of class in racing. Other then Nascar of course. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

06-03-2008, 09:58 PM	#698
CKAMC Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Desert Age: 34 Posts: 4,804 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if they do a G20 resurrection.... I think I will be all over it... even if its fwd then again, when I owned one (p11) it was one of my favorites __________________

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DreamN Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal - 818 Age: 36 Posts: 10,691 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: DreamN Feedback Score: 54 reviews	^ a g20 revival would be a smart move for nissan/infiti too. they need a light sporty sedan in their line up. The G20t models were great looking cars. I'd really like one just based on styling, but I just don't like how fwd cars feel and handle for the most part. Can't wait to see some shots of this "BMW Killer" though. __________________ - Jimmy Wanted: TBD For Sale: TBD

06-04-2008, 12:40 PM	#704
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 41 Posts: 20,898 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Autoblog has a new rendering and are calling the Suby Coupe an Impreza. Subaru and Toyota's rear-wheel-drive lovechild is on its way, and AutoExpress has tapped Larson to render the new coupe to give us an idea of what we'll be saving up for come 2010. As previously reported, both versions will be sporting separate sheet metal to differentiate the two coupes from one another. We'd suspect that the Toyota version will be fitted with a traditional trunk, while the Subaru version will get a hatch similar to that found on the WRX/STI. The image above takes all the right cues from the current Impreza, particularly the aggressive roofline and hunkered stance, and ratchets it up a notch with a new front bumper, swept back headlamps and bulging fender flares. As we're already aware, both the Toyota version (which supposedly won't make it to U.S. shores) and the Subaru variant will be powered by a naturally aspirated 2.0-liter boxer, sending around 180 hp to the rear wheels. AutoExpress claims that a 300-hp version equipped with the turbocharged 2.5-liter flat-four is also destined for production, along with an all-wheel-drive version further down the road. For those of us that have been dreaming of an STI-powered GC8 coupe, this could spare us the considerable headache and expense when it goes on sale in 2012. More info from Auto Express t's the most stylish Subaru ever! And this striking Impreza coupé will go into production in 2010. Joining the recently launched hatch-back model, it will allow the Japanese company to tackle the BMW 3-Series Coupé and Nissan 350Z head-on, as well as reach out to new customers. The car has been developed as part of a joint venture with Subaru owner Toyota – the project will also spawn a long-awaited successor to the Nineties Celica. The Impreza coupé takes styling cues from the five-door model, but gets a rakish rear end. That gives it a chunky yet athletic appearance which stands out from the crowd. Power will come from a choice of two engines, both employing the flat-four boxer layout for which Subaru is famous. There’s a normally aspirated 2.0-litre unit giving around 180bhp, or a high-performance 2.5-litre turbo powerplant borrowed from the range-topping five-door STi. The latter will deliver in the region of 300bhp. For the entry-level machine, the Impreza’s four-wheel-drive system will be dropped in favour of a more lightweight and less expensive rear-drive set-up. That will put the emphasis on maximum driving thrills. But the more powerful car will send power to four tyres to harness all that punch. The newcomer will go on sale first in Japan and the US, and could arrive here in the UK in 2011. In entry-level guise, it’s set to cost around £20,000, with the flagship priced at £25,000. In a related story, Nissan is working on an affordable rear-wheel-drive coupé to sit below the 350Z. The Silvia replacement will go on sale in 2010 __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

06-04-2008, 12:00 PM	#702
IStop4NoMan Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: so cal Posts: 310 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	It would be interesting to see a sentra turned into a G20 type car. i think that platform has potential, they just gave it a bland style on the outside. (i have one haha). it already has a smooth ride, very quiet, and has decent power. just throw in a bit more power, nicer outside and inside and that would be a seller for all those looking for something cheaper than a G35 but still want a luxury type small car. But i still want a new 240 variant damnit!

06-04-2008, 12:48 PM	#705
stiizy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NYC Age: 39 Posts: 6,332 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	STi coupe i'll take 1 of those!!

06-04-2008, 12:51 PM	#706
slidingsky Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgia Age: 39 Posts: 409 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: slidingsky Feedback Score: 3 reviews	The new STi Hatch is growing on me but I would have stood in a line to buy one if it looked like that.

06-04-2008, 12:54 PM	#707
kyoru Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 880 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just saw that, thats how they should have made the styling in the first place. __________________

06-04-2008, 01:15 PM	#708
Dutchmalmiss Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Socal (323) Age: 35 Posts: 3,475 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Hmm I smell a revival of the 22b. __________________ Pignose, biaaatch.

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06-04-2008, 09:31 PM	#712
*dorkidori_s13* ITS LISA'S FAULT!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas Age: 39 Posts: 7,334 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	well...with them there pics of the toybaru sneaked...i somehow get the feeling the new silvia test mule pics will be close behind as im sure nissan isnt going to sit around and take this lightly __________________ Bought something from me??? POST A REVIEW HERE!!!

06-04-2008, 09:32 PM	#713
Baka Sama Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Metro Atlanta Age: 37 Posts: 1,130 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Cool, does if come with the little asian kid too? Looks like a ford focus with the camo. I like the concept better.

06-04-2008, 09:34 PM	#714
Gnnr Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: S. FL Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Its a test mule so we wont be able to tell anything about how its gonna look yet. __________________

06-04-2008, 09:42 PM	#715
Baka Sama Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Metro Atlanta Age: 37 Posts: 1,130 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	blah, Id rather have subarus hatch over toyotas coupe. That is if toyota brings theirs to the US. Guess I need to go open a savings account.

06-04-2008, 10:51 PM	#716
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 39 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	cute car looks like a jetta... gimme sleek sharp and narrow... like a typical s chassis im game. the subtoy is okay looking the toy version looks alot better tho... it definetly would be nice with 300hp in the engine bay nice quality the manufacture decided to do with... __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

06-05-2008, 03:26 AM	#717
1989rps13 BANNED Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: socal Posts: 1,499 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	the new silvia will be a "mini 350z" ??? http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissan-t...t-by-2010.html i cant find the pics anymore but it showed spy photos of a look a like 350Z but much smaller and i believe that was the new silvia in hatchback style and the 350z will move up to be the 370Z or something like that also the new silvia may be hybrid!? :-0 http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissan-2...owertrain.html

06-05-2008, 03:39 AM	#718
Baka Sama Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Metro Atlanta Age: 37 Posts: 1,130 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wtf -reg for posting old news

06-05-2008, 08:06 AM	#720
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 41 Posts: 20,898 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Since no one is posting the pic directly. This is obviously a very early test mule just to test the platform and not the styling. You can see that most of the body panels are from a Legacy. I DOUBT this coupe will share any styling similarities with the Legacy. Although I don't think any one here would think that is a bad thing. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

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