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chnco · 02-07-2006, 10:37 AM

I was just curious for those of you who have custom cages made, how much you guys typically pay for them? I know of the pricing of the Cusco and Safety 21's, but I wanted to know how much you guys pay at a local fab shop. Say for a 6-point, either through or around the dash? Not necessarily welded in, say just bolted in.

*!Zar!* · 02-07-2006, 11:08 AM

IIRC you can get a cage welded in for around the same price as the cusco kit. But I suggest you weld the cage in and not bolt it in. It's safer and will stiffen your car if done propperly. Not to flame or anything, but why do you want a cage? IMO that money could be used for better things. Unless you are racing and that is all you have left to do...

Flybert · 02-07-2006, 01:10 PM

Usual price for a 6 point is around $1000 around here.

midnite_180 · 02-07-2006, 01:24 PM

got my 6 pont in my first s13 for $800 unpainted tho, some other shops paint it as well.

chnco · 02-07-2006, 01:49 PM

damn, are those installed prices?

sideview_180sx · 02-07-2006, 09:40 PM

you are shocked that it seems a bit high. Are you pissing about the price of safety?? You are only as valuable as the amount of cash you spend on the safety devices. Don't want to drop in decent money for a proper weld-in cage, go for the cheaper bolt-in, but you will get cheap bolt-in safety in the event of a mishap. Just something you should think about.

Zar is correct tho, why would you want a cage unless it is specifically for competition. Don't try and put in a cage just because it makes you seem hardcore...

gotta240 · 02-07-2006, 11:26 PM

wtf are you guys talking about?

WHY NOT get a cage? Just cause you don't compete, doesn't mean somone doesn't want extra safety... You don't have to be on a racetrack for a cage to save your life.....

Dousan_PG · 02-07-2006, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gotta240

wtf are you guys talking about?

WHY NOT get a cage? Just cause you don't compete, doesn't mean somone doesn't want extra safety... You don't have to be on a racetrack for a cage to save your life.....

you weaer a helmet on the street?
cagse arent designed for daily driving

ever smack your head on a cage?
its not fun
imagine itas you get tboned at 50mph by a car.

your head=watermelon.

Andrew Bohan · 02-07-2006, 11:32 PM

$289 for a 12-point cage. bend it and weld it yourself

stretch240sx · 02-07-2006, 11:48 PM

a cage is definatly one of those things you get what you pay for... unless you are getting a homie hook up or something similar...

infinitexsound · 02-08-2006, 12:09 AM

autopower..... yay..!

Andrew Bohan · 02-08-2006, 12:51 AM

www.cachassisworks. seriously. those guy know what's up with safety. i went to their warehouse once. knowledgeable guys, and like a millions miles of rollcage tubing all stacked up. i cut and notched almost every tube in luke's cage, and he welded em. took us like a week.

andrewmp6 · 02-08-2006, 01:04 AM

do not buy a cusco cage isnt not even a cage its for looks does nothing buy a autopower cage or have one made

Sky240PWR · 02-08-2006, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by andrewmp6

do not buy a cusco cage isnt not even a cage its for looks does nothing buy a autopower cage or have one made

i don't know too much about roll caged but I have a 91 24o hatch with out a roll cage and my friend has a 91 with a cusco roll cage and you could feel the differnce!...doesn't feel as sloppy as mine!!

andrewmp6 · 02-08-2006, 05:47 AM

cusco cage isnt rated by scca nasa or nhra if you flip the car the part that bends around the dash will give out and youll have a flat head lol only bolt in cage i trust is autopwer if you dont like theres have you one made

240trainee · 02-08-2006, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by i'm driftaholic

$289 for a 12-point cage. bend it and weld it yourself

Thats what I'm talking about, a friend of mine is pretty good with a welder, he and I are going to split the cost for a notcher and a bender, and have at it.

I've been reading NASA and SCCA rulebooks and looking at pics of already done cages, so I think I'll be good. There's nothing magical about a cage - use logic and the rulebooks.

RSP13-Sideways · 02-08-2006, 09:21 AM

I've had a Cusco 6-point cage that bends under the dash in my AE86 GTS and it stiffened the sumbitch up a good amount.

I'm rockin' an Autopower 6-point now in my fastback and I feel it's a lot more rigid than my old Cusco cage. Could be the chassis difference too though.

Cusco blue looks pretty and is made from super light chromoly (less than 40lbs in my AE86) but Autopower will get the job done if you roll over but it's a lot heavier manufactured out of DOM.

kuruptR · 02-08-2006, 02:38 PM

anyone have a saftey 21 cusco cage? thoughts on it.

or a nagisa cage? let me know im looking to purchase a premade kit, as locals suck and cant make shit...and i dont want gross muffler shop welds.

blu808 · 02-08-2006, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotta240

wtf are you guys talking about?

WHY NOT get a cage? Just cause you don't compete, doesn't mean somone doesn't want extra safety... You don't have to be on a racetrack for a cage to save your life.....

A cage is your worst enemy in a crash on the street. If you are driving around without a helmet on, and you crash you will most likely be killed from your head exploding on the cage. Even with padding.

stretch240sx · 02-08-2006, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by blu808

A cage is your worst enemy in a crash on the street. If you are driving around without a helmet on, and you crash you will most likely be killed from your head exploding on the cage. Even with padding.

im 6'6 and when i crashed while doining some spirited driving, i nailed the plastics for the seat belt shit and fuck i though i had a concusion... so id hate to see what happened if i hit a cage

NekoPunch · 02-09-2006, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewmp6

do not buy a cusco cage isnt not even a cage its for looks does nothing buy a autopower cage or have one made

cusco cage isnt rated by scca nasa or nhra if you flip the car the part that bends around the dash will give out and youll have a flat head lol only bolt in cage i trust is autopwer if you dont like theres have you one made

Tell that BS to Katsuhiro Ueo...

http://forums.club4ag.com/topic.asp?...OPIC_ID=100274

Or tell it to the probably 80-90% of drift, D1, circuit, and gymkhana competitors in Japan who use Cusco/Safety21 bolt-in cages. In fact the most common setup you'll see over there is the 4 or 5 pt. Cusco (chromoly) or Safety21 (steel) bolt-in on even some of the most hard-driven shop cars...

http://www.dec-i.com/democar02.html

http://www.northwestnissans.com/test...d1usa04-18.jpg

The fact is they're not just "for looks", they strengthen the chassis, they're far better than nothing in a roll-over situation (on the track w/ helmet), they're affordable, and they're more streetable than a weld-in jungle gym. If you need a SCCA/NASA/whatever approved cage, then go with Autopower or pay up for custom and more power to ya.

andrewmp6 · 02-09-2006, 06:55 AM

name the last drift car that rolled over if cusco is so great why isnt it scca or nasa cert scca and nasa cages are rated for roll overs drift cars aint they are just for show they dont really race

240trainee · 02-09-2006, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by andrewmp6

name the last drift car that rolled over if cusco is so great why isnt it scca or nasa cert scca and nasa cages are rated for roll overs drift cars aint they are just for show they dont really race

I love ignorance, lol. NASA and SCCA regulations are based on Americans anal retentivenes on safety and well buit shit. Good, bad, or indifferent, thats why American versions of cars tend to be heavier and uglier; i.e., ae86 corolla US vs Japan bumpers. Cusco and safety21 cages are built for ease of install, lightweight, and chassis stiffening. Not necessarily roll over. unless a cage is made out of PVC or it's just horribly made, a cage will stiffen the chassis, which is the point of a Cusco/ safty21. An auto power does that, but also adresses the American concern for saftey as a priority, at the expense of weight. I hope this makes sense.

Andrew Bohan · 02-09-2006, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewmp6

name the last drift car that rolled over

last one i heard about was taka aono last summer in formula d.

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewmp6

they are just for show they dont really race

false dichotomy

i8yourfwd · 02-09-2006, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i'm driftaholic

www.cachassisworks. seriously. those guy know what's up with safety. i went to their warehouse once. knowledgeable guys, and like a millions miles of rollcage tubing all stacked up. i cut and notched almost every tube in luke's cage, and he welded em. took us like a week.

Making me a rollbar please andrew and luke

chnco · 02-09-2006, 10:55 AM

Does everyone on here have ADD???

Andrew Bohan · 02-09-2006, 11:52 AM

i do. i was diagnosed 5 years ago.

240trainee · 02-09-2006, 11:57 AM

I think I must, but no dr has said I do.

NekoPunch · 02-09-2006, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewmp6

name the last drift car that rolled over if cusco is so great why isnt it scca or nasa cert scca and nasa cages are rated for roll overs drift cars aint they are just for show they dont really race

They are approved by FIA and JAF, and in Japan they are always referred to as "rollbars" not cages (even their "13-point rollbar") because their primary purpose is protection in a rollover situation.

They are not certified by certain groups in the U.S. like SCCA and NASA because in this great advanced country of ours (which rejected the metric system and produced the Ford Pinto) those motorsport clubs have come up with different rules on how they think rollbars should be built. Those rules can change from year to year, obviously a great way to keep local roll cage builders in business.

To the original poster: Everyone here has ADD. Local fabricators around here differ greatly on how much they charge. Some charge $100 per point. Race shops can charge by material and by the hour for labor, so cost can skyrocket. If you're talking about through-dash, painted cage, full interior, spec legal, etc. you are looking at huge variation in cost depending on where you go and how much of the prep work you do yourself.

ISTOTOSAO · 02-09-2006, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NekoPunch

They are approved by FIA

I am not being an ass but are you sure about this. Because FIA supersedes both SCCA and NASA. It would be news to me. Again I am not attacking you, just curious.

02-07-2006, 10:37 AM	#1
chnco Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 207 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Typical Roll Cage Pricing I was just curious for those of you who have custom cages made, how much you guys typically pay for them? I know of the pricing of the Cusco and Safety 21's, but I wanted to know how much you guys pay at a local fab shop. Say for a 6-point, either through or around the dash? Not necessarily welded in, say just bolted in.

02-07-2006, 11:08 AM	#2
!Zar! Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,576 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	IIRC you can get a cage welded in for around the same price as the cusco kit. But I suggest you weld the cage in and not bolt it in. It's safer and will stiffen your car if done propperly. Not to flame or anything, but why do you want a cage? IMO that money could be used for better things. Unless you are racing and that is all you have left to do... __________________

02-07-2006, 09:40 PM	#6
sideview_180sx Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: somewhere north of mexico Posts: 1,538 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	you are shocked that it seems a bit high. Are you pissing about the price of safety?? You are only as valuable as the amount of cash you spend on the safety devices. Don't want to drop in decent money for a proper weld-in cage, go for the cheaper bolt-in, but you will get cheap bolt-in safety in the event of a mishap. Just something you should think about. Zar is correct tho, why would you want a cage unless it is specifically for competition. Don't try and put in a cage just because it makes you seem hardcore... __________________ feel the rythym. feel the ride. get on up. it's bobsled time. COOL RUNNINGS!!! formerly sideviewcivic Save a Horse. Drift This Cowboy. AirBag Club Member #0014

02-07-2006, 11:48 PM	#10
stretch240sx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oceanside CA Age: 36 Posts: 341 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: stretch240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	a cage is definatly one of those things you get what you pay for... unless you are getting a homie hook up or something similar... __________________ Moved on to AWD... Miss RWD.. 1904photography.com

02-08-2006, 12:09 AM	#11
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 39 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	autopower..... yay..! __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

02-07-2006, 01:10 PM	#3
Flybert Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: none Posts: 3,862 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Usual price for a 6 point is around $1000 around here.

02-07-2006, 01:24 PM	#4
midnite_180 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SO CAL...San Diego Posts: 141 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	got my 6 pont in my first s13 for $800 unpainted tho, some other shops paint it as well.

02-07-2006, 01:49 PM	#5
chnco Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 207 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	damn, are those installed prices?

02-07-2006, 11:26 PM	#7
gotta240 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: so cal Posts: 3,496 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	wtf are you guys talking about? WHY NOT get a cage? Just cause you don't compete, doesn't mean somone doesn't want extra safety... You don't have to be on a racetrack for a cage to save your life.....

02-07-2006, 11:32 PM	#9
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Location: Location Posts: 8,330 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	$289 for a 12-point cage. bend it and weld it yourself

02-08-2006, 12:51 AM	#12
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Location: Location Posts: 8,330 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	www.cachassisworks. seriously. those guy know what's up with safety. i went to their warehouse once. knowledgeable guys, and like a millions miles of rollcage tubing all stacked up. i cut and notched almost every tube in luke's cage, and he welded em. took us like a week.

02-08-2006, 01:04 AM	#13
andrewmp6 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: kentucky Posts: 376 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	do not buy a cusco cage isnt not even a cage its for looks does nothing buy a autopower cage or have one made

02-08-2006, 05:47 AM	#15
andrewmp6 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: kentucky Posts: 376 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	cusco cage isnt rated by scca nasa or nhra if you flip the car the part that bends around the dash will give out and youll have a flat head lol only bolt in cage i trust is autopwer if you dont like theres have you one made

02-08-2006, 09:21 AM	#17
RSP13-Sideways Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: Northern California Age: 39 Posts: 850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've had a Cusco 6-point cage that bends under the dash in my AE86 GTS and it stiffened the sumbitch up a good amount. I'm rockin' an Autopower 6-point now in my fastback and I feel it's a lot more rigid than my old Cusco cage. Could be the chassis difference too though. Cusco blue looks pretty and is made from super light chromoly (less than 40lbs in my AE86) but Autopower will get the job done if you roll over but it's a lot heavier manufactured out of DOM. __________________ - Jay WTB: Nothing at the moment. LEWL WTS: Everything sold, thanks folks!

02-08-2006, 02:38 PM	#18
kuruptR Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UpNorth Posts: 1,046 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	anyone have a saftey 21 cusco cage? thoughts on it. or a nagisa cage? let me know im looking to purchase a premade kit, as locals suck and cant make shit...and i dont want gross muffler shop welds. __________________ @woooster on instagram

02-09-2006, 06:55 AM	#22
andrewmp6 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: kentucky Posts: 376 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	name the last drift car that rolled over if cusco is so great why isnt it scca or nasa cert scca and nasa cages are rated for roll overs drift cars aint they are just for show they dont really race

02-09-2006, 10:55 AM	#26
chnco Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 207 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Does everyone on here have ADD???

02-09-2006, 11:52 AM	#27
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Location: Location Posts: 8,330 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	i do. i was diagnosed 5 years ago.

02-09-2006, 11:57 AM	#28
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