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mazdog240 · 08-18-2002, 04:24 PM

Your thougths on these being fake knock-offs is very possible I have not seen any conclusive evidence that these truly are Do-Luck products, but the way I see it is that if these are knocks the are high-quality not some back of the shop in HK crap. ALL the welds and construction seems very well done, I would think it was computer/robotic welded, or some rather skilled welder. Anyways for the price you really can't beat them fake or not.

As far as bolts go I have:
FLB has 2 medium size bolts and washers
RLB has 2 medium and 1 smaller bolts and washers
What do you have?

planb · 08-18-2002, 05:02 PM

Ill just have to wait for some high res pics, or for a review from someone who has installed them!  you are right.... the price is very tempting... Ive just had bad experiences with knock offs!

sil80 · 08-18-2002, 05:12 PM

Well I have yet to get mine... still waiting... *yawn*... *pick nose*....

If I dont have mine by wednesday... .... ... ... I will wait longer.
Soon as I get mine(tomorrow probably) I will install them asap.... coooooool.

obruT ES 41S 79' · 08-18-2002, 06:40 PM

My Do-Luck FLB comes with silver sticker that says "Do-Luck FLB"

My Do-Luck RLB comes with silver sticker that says "Do-Luck RLB"

My Do-Luck RXB comes with silver badge that says "Do-Luck RXB"

First two was bought through importers directly from Japan. RXB was brought from old Do-Luck importer, Avanche.

tyyap

808rps13 · 08-18-2002, 08:51 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mazdog240 @ Aug. 18 2002,5:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Your thougths on these being fake knock-offs is very possible I have not seen any conclusive evidence that these truly are Do-Luck products, but the way I see it is that if these are knocks the are high-quality not some back of the shop in HK crap. ALL the welds and construction seems very well done, I would think it was computer/robotic welded, or some rather skilled welder. Anyways for the price you really can't beat them fake or not.

As far as bolts go I have:
FLB has 2 medium size bolts and washers
RLB has 2 medium and 1 smaller bolts and washers
What do you have?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
the thought had also crossed my mind (about these being knock-offs). the first thing i looked at was the quality of the welds, which IMO are very clean. for the price i guess you can't really go wrong (or can you?, see below).

bolts: i received the amount that you listed...

i was just under the car this afternoon trying to figure how to install the RLB. the RLB is suppose to install in between the fuel tank and bumper. one side uses the existing bolts(?) that are on the bracket for the exhaust hangers, the other side, well that's kinda where i ran into a little problem... i can't seem to get the RLB bracket to sit flush... one of the straps for the fuel tank gets in the way and the shape of the bracket (on the bar itself) doesn't seem to allow the bar to fit in just right (it hits the bumper).

i'd like to think that i'm not hopeless <shrug> and i suppose that i could've figured it out, but it was getting too damn hot (90+ degrees)... i'll try again later on in the week and hopefully i won't run into any problems w/ the front <crossing fingers>...

-edit- i took some pics and started a new thread http://www.zilvia.net/f....t=14781

mazdog240 · 08-19-2002, 08:58 PM

Hey Francisco
I 'd like to hear any comments you have on this? I personally have not installed my bars yets, so I will bite my tongue for the most part.

AZN GTR · 08-20-2002, 10:38 AM

I have no idea now if these are fake or real, everyone is saying they are fake, and I don't know what to do.  I will definitely call my friend and see if he's been lying to me about them being Doluck.  I only seen them once when i was in Hong Kong, and they looked like they were very well made, and came with a paper that says Doluck on the bottom, so I thought there wouldn't be a problem.  He told me he had many of these and he told me to see if I could sell them to the US for him, which I did, now, I am probably screwed for helping him.  I will find out and keep you guys updated on this.

sil80 · 08-22-2002, 03:26 PM

Well I got my supposable doluck bars today. Both.. yep both plastic bags had holes in them. I have two bolts in one bag with some washers and not shit in the other. OOO Lucky me.

planb · 08-22-2002, 04:05 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sil80 @ Aug. 22 2002,4:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well I got my supposable doluck bars today. Both.. yep both plastic bags had holes in them. I have two bolts in one bag with some washers and not shit in the other. OOO Lucky me.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
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sil80 · 08-22-2002, 04:59 PM

Well I just hit home depot and got a bunch of extra bolts and washer so hopefully it will work. after inspection of the bars I would have to say that I highly dought they are do luck. From other people I have talked to that have do-luck products they all say they are kick ass and high quality. My dad welded(I still dont know how) and I can tell you these bars my not be shit but they could be better. The welds are not smooth/professional at all but you can tell it will hold and thats all that matters. Bars do come in black... just dont expect them to stay that way. Mine are all scratch up already and I just got them out of the box. Disappointed.... kinda but hell you get what you paid for. I think someone that is a machinest should bust some of these out.

Side note - I got my subframe spacers from Greg dupree and let me tell you, this stuff is good quility. Like quality you would expect from zeal, nismo or sparco.

sil80 · 08-22-2002, 08:36 PM

Hahahaha... Well I can assure you that you have to drill holes(TWO) in the passanger side RLB end, good luck!
Well I snapped the bolts that hold in the exhaust hing. No suprise since it was hella rusted. I tried to line the bar up and I think either it wasnt made right, my car has been rearend slightly, or im gimp.... could be any of those. Leaning towards a slight tap to the rear but after yesterdays b&m short shifter escapade(sp?) it could be im gimp. Also the gas tank holder/strap on the passenger side is in the way by about 4-8cm's, so you end up pushing against it.. again could be that my car has been tapped in the rear.
This is just a heads up to what you might run into if anyone else trys this.

sil80 · 08-22-2002, 10:55 PM

Progress report -
Rear ladder bar is on....... oooooo is it so not even. If you step back about 10-15 and crouch you can see the driver side curved portion fine tell you get to the middle but you cannot see the passengers side because its up in the bumper.. OOO you ask how that is possible. Well you see with a grinder you can make things disappear... like portions of the bumper. If you see the doluck pick you can see how the whole bottom of the bar is visable. On my S13 the passanger side of the bar/curve was pressing against the back edge of the bumper which was limiting the holes(I drilled) to line up with the factory holes.
Doesnt look like it caused my chassie to set off so im going to finish bolting her up and test it. If it brakes well...

planb · 08-22-2002, 11:06 PM

hahaha..... and everyone was saying "these are good quality!" hahaha... just poking fun.  That sucks man....  I wouldnt even leave it on my car if it was crooked, its not going to function correctly. lol...

sil80 · 08-23-2002, 12:24 AM

Ok back one on and it seems all right.
Lets talk about the front one..... 10 mins... yep thats it... 10 mins. It does try to hide from you though. There are rubber fillers in the hole that are hard to see if you car is a dirt ball like mine. To give you an idea where it sets... the center/middle of the bar will right in front/below the tran/engine connection.
I took it around and you can really feel a diff. Im not sure how you guys drive your cars but i drive mine hard and it shows. So when I pushed it I was suprised on the limited chassie flex and how even the body role was. Before body role would be diff depending on speed I took a corner. Not now, it seems to pretty limited no matter the speed.. well at least up to 65(tight hwy curve). I am still running stock shocks on the ST coils.
Well I assume if your ride has never had rear end damage(I didnt think mine ever did) the rear will go just as smooth but if it has... bust out the grinder our hit the body shop. Really I dont care cause its not enough to cause an issue now and im sure I will get even cockier and wreck soon anyways so I will have it take care of then.
Well now I need to but the subframe spacers on......
its 1:30 so sorry for any spelling/sentance screw ups....

AZN - Im still disappointed in you and false advertisment and product quality. Hope this changes the way you do business in the future.

08-18-2002, 05:02 PM	#62
planb Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: raleigh nc Posts: 132 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ill just have to wait for some high res pics, or for a review from someone who has installed them!  you are right.... the price is very tempting... Ive just had bad experiences with knock offs! __________________

08-18-2002, 05:12 PM	#63
sil80 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 660 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well I have yet to get mine... still waiting... yawn... pick nose.... If I dont have mine by wednesday... .... ... ... I will wait longer. Soon as I get mine(tomorrow probably) I will install them asap.... coooooool. __________________ Five degrees of separation - from you and your license 91 240sx SE

08-22-2002, 03:26 PM	#68
sil80 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 660 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well I got my supposable doluck bars today. Both.. yep both plastic bags had holes in them. I have two bolts in one bag with some washers and not shit in the other. OOO Lucky me. __________________ Five degrees of separation - from you and your license 91 240sx SE

08-22-2002, 04:05 PM	#69
planb Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: raleigh nc Posts: 132 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sil80 @ Aug. 22 2002,4:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well I got my supposable doluck bars today. Both.. yep both plastic bags had holes in them. I have two bolts in one bag with some washers and not shit in the other. OOO Lucky me.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________

08-22-2002, 04:59 PM	#70
sil80 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 660 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well I just hit home depot and got a bunch of extra bolts and washer so hopefully it will work. after inspection of the bars I would have to say that I highly dought they are do luck. From other people I have talked to that have do-luck products they all say they are kick ass and high quality. My dad welded(I still dont know how) and I can tell you these bars my not be shit but they could be better. The welds are not smooth/professional at all but you can tell it will hold and thats all that matters. Bars do come in black... just dont expect them to stay that way. Mine are all scratch up already and I just got them out of the box. Disappointed.... kinda but hell you get what you paid for. I think someone that is a machinest should bust some of these out. Side note - I got my subframe spacers from Greg dupree and let me tell you, this stuff is good quility. Like quality you would expect from zeal, nismo or sparco. __________________ Five degrees of separation - from you and your license 91 240sx SE

08-18-2002, 04:24 PM	#61
mazdog240 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 88 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Your thougths on these being fake knock-offs is very possible I have not seen any conclusive evidence that these truly are Do-Luck products, but the way I see it is that if these are knocks the are high-quality not some back of the shop in HK crap. ALL the welds and construction seems very well done, I would think it was computer/robotic welded, or some rather skilled welder. Anyways for the price you really can't beat them fake or not. As far as bolts go I have: FLB has 2 medium size bolts and washers RLB has 2 medium and 1 smaller bolts and washers What do you have?

08-18-2002, 06:40 PM	#64
obruT ES 41S 79' Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 18 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My Do-Luck FLB comes with silver sticker that says "Do-Luck FLB" My Do-Luck RLB comes with silver sticker that says "Do-Luck RLB" My Do-Luck RXB comes with silver badge that says "Do-Luck RXB" First two was bought through importers directly from Japan. RXB was brought from old Do-Luck importer, Avanche. tyyap

08-18-2002, 08:51 PM	#65
808rps13 Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 88 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mazdog240 @ Aug. 18 2002,5:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Your thougths on these being fake knock-offs is very possible I have not seen any conclusive evidence that these truly are Do-Luck products, but the way I see it is that if these are knocks the are high-quality not some back of the shop in HK crap. ALL the welds and construction seems very well done, I would think it was computer/robotic welded, or some rather skilled welder. Anyways for the price you really can't beat them fake or not. As far as bolts go I have: FLB has 2 medium size bolts and washers RLB has 2 medium and 1 smaller bolts and washers What do you have?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> the thought had also crossed my mind (about these being knock-offs). the first thing i looked at was the quality of the welds, which IMO are very clean. for the price i guess you can't really go wrong (or can you?, see below). bolts: i received the amount that you listed... i was just under the car this afternoon trying to figure how to install the RLB. the RLB is suppose to install in between the fuel tank and bumper. one side uses the existing bolts(?) that are on the bracket for the exhaust hangers, the other side, well that's kinda where i ran into a little problem... i can't seem to get the RLB bracket to sit flush... one of the straps for the fuel tank gets in the way and the shape of the bracket (on the bar itself) doesn't seem to allow the bar to fit in just right (it hits the bumper). i'd like to think that i'm not hopeless <shrug> and i suppose that i could've figured it out, but it was getting too damn hot (90+ degrees)... i'll try again later on in the week and hopefully i won't run into any problems w/ the front <crossing fingers>... -edit- i took some pics and started a new thread http://www.zilvia.net/f....t=14781

08-19-2002, 08:58 PM	#66
mazdog240 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 88 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hey Francisco I 'd like to hear any comments you have on this? I personally have not installed my bars yets, so I will bite my tongue for the most part.

08-20-2002, 10:38 AM	#67
AZN GTR Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 216 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have no idea now if these are fake or real, everyone is saying they are fake, and I don't know what to do.  I will definitely call my friend and see if he's been lying to me about them being Doluck.  I only seen them once when i was in Hong Kong, and they looked like they were very well made, and came with a paper that says Doluck on the bottom, so I thought there wouldn't be a problem.  He told me he had many of these and he told me to see if I could sell them to the US for him, which I did, now, I am probably screwed for helping him.  I will find out and keep you guys updated on this.

08-22-2002, 08:36 PM	#71
sil80 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 660 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hahahaha... Well I can assure you that you have to drill holes(TWO) in the passanger side RLB end, good luck! Well I snapped the bolts that hold in the exhaust hing. No suprise since it was hella rusted. I tried to line the bar up and I think either it wasnt made right, my car has been rearend slightly, or im gimp.... could be any of those. Leaning towards a slight tap to the rear but after yesterdays b&m short shifter escapade(sp?) it could be im gimp. Also the gas tank holder/strap on the passenger side is in the way by about 4-8cm's, so you end up pushing against it.. again could be that my car has been tapped in the rear. This is just a heads up to what you might run into if anyone else trys this. __________________ Five degrees of separation - from you and your license 91 240sx SE

08-22-2002, 10:55 PM	#72
sil80 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 660 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Progress report - Rear ladder bar is on....... oooooo is it so not even. If you step back about 10-15 and crouch you can see the driver side curved portion fine tell you get to the middle but you cannot see the passengers side because its up in the bumper.. OOO you ask how that is possible. Well you see with a grinder you can make things disappear... like portions of the bumper. If you see the doluck pick you can see how the whole bottom of the bar is visable. On my S13 the passanger side of the bar/curve was pressing against the back edge of the bumper which was limiting the holes(I drilled) to line up with the factory holes. Doesnt look like it caused my chassie to set off so im going to finish bolting her up and test it. If it brakes well... __________________ Five degrees of separation - from you and your license 91 240sx SE

08-22-2002, 11:06 PM	#73
planb Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: raleigh nc Posts: 132 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hahaha..... and everyone was saying "these are good quality!" hahaha... just poking fun.  That sucks man....  I wouldnt even leave it on my car if it was crooked, its not going to function correctly. lol... __________________

08-23-2002, 12:24 AM	#74
sil80 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 660 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ok back one on and it seems all right. Lets talk about the front one..... 10 mins... yep thats it... 10 mins. It does try to hide from you though. There are rubber fillers in the hole that are hard to see if you car is a dirt ball like mine. To give you an idea where it sets... the center/middle of the bar will right in front/below the tran/engine connection. I took it around and you can really feel a diff. Im not sure how you guys drive your cars but i drive mine hard and it shows. So when I pushed it I was suprised on the limited chassie flex and how even the body role was. Before body role would be diff depending on speed I took a corner. Not now, it seems to pretty limited no matter the speed.. well at least up to 65(tight hwy curve). I am still running stock shocks on the ST coils. Well I assume if your ride has never had rear end damage(I didnt think mine ever did) the rear will go just as smooth but if it has... bust out the grinder our hit the body shop. Really I dont care cause its not enough to cause an issue now and im sure I will get even cockier and wreck soon anyways so I will have it take care of then. Well now I need to but the subframe spacers on...... its 1:30 so sorry for any spelling/sentance screw ups.... AZN - Im still disappointed in you and false advertisment and product quality. Hope this changes the way you do business in the future. __________________ Five degrees of separation - from you and your license 91 240sx SE

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