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Touge Noob S13

The amount of 4chan pictures in this thread proves your point.

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maplejesse

coww-cho!!!!!

yup yup, as beings we have that nature of curiosity as to how we became who we are. of course for a child the easiest of things to understand is that there (is)are Dragons, Jesus, Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Sponge Bob, Buddha etc

lets sing all together now.....Our God is an Awesome God He Reign from heaven and earth....ahhhh Fuck my 4 years at Christian/Catholic Private schools. although i must say the best i got out of it was seeing chicks in short skirts on certain days of the week


Have any of you guys ever stayed at a friends house who's family was overly too Religious?

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iHeartTheTouge

No one I know is overly religious. But I did go to a party in 8th grade where one of the girls who is overly religious just about stopped everything that was happening and turned it into a fucking sermon. Something about a kid who died years earlier everyone knew and Jesus yada yada yada. Completely ruined the rest of the night. Bitch. The girl I was hooking up with was no longer in the mood after that.

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LOL I would like to take this thread more seriously if people would start acting like adults. It is easy to come up of examples of people who use religion to do wrong but no one ever likes to think of all the good that people do in the name of their faith. People are flawed, and so is the confines of most religions. As it has been said before in this thread, we as humans have no real understanding of how the universe works. And yes religions start from our basic ways of explaining things we did not understand. Even if you take out Genesis and the 'history' out of the bible and teach the wholesome sound values, it is solid. People are going to believe in God(s) or they won't it is as simple as that. The best that scientists come up with is the same shit that is in majority of religions. First there was nothing, then something happened, and now we have everything. Our minds can not fathom nothing or large periods of time. Science has not dis-proven a creator. Science has only proven that we can observe a similarities in all living beings. They didn't even get it right all the time.. Explain why the fucking duck bill platypus is a mammal! It's the only mammal that has a beak and lays eggs. Sounds more like a fucking furry warm blooded reptile.

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lflkajfj12123

We actually have a very good understanding of how the universe works now and we are on the brink of uniting everything into one theory (String Theory being one of the competitors) within the next 10 years.

I was referring to us not being capable our understanding our existence I.E. Why?

That would be like understanding the mind of god if god does exist.

ESmorz

What if there is no why? Just a where and when.

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irax

Actually our understanding of how the universe works is far superior now than it was even 20 years ago. But is still nothing in comparison of what we still have to learn. Until we turn even 20% of the theories we have about the universe into facts I still say we don't know shit.

And a unified theory is even further away.

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jamg

i believe in a "god"

not necessarily in terms of a higher all controlling power,

but i don't believe in religion.

S13WnaB

Has there been any explanation that aliens do not exist, and we were only created by these higher beings(aliens) to mine the rich minerals such as gold for them(slaves) because they didn't wanna do the work. (not my belief, just a possibility)

are you gonna call me crazy for thinking the thought of aliens or another life is more logical than the belief of a god that plays one big game of life, for everyone.
philosophy class, a lady called this kid crazy for believing in vampires, i called her crazy for believing in god.

Teddy

I personally think that anyone who believes in "God" is ignorant and blind to the real world.

I do believe in afterlife and spirits because there has always been freaky shit going on in my house that has no explanation other than "ghosts".

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theicecreamdan

There are large things in the ocean that we know nothing about yet.

All we can ever do is keep trying to understand, but truthfully I don't think we are capable of actually understanding anything.

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lflkajfj12123

From a philosophical standpoint... I get you. It is perfectly reasonable to believe that existence has well forever existed and we do not need a reason to explain it. This is a common argument against the existence of god in philosophy.

From a scientific standpoint our universe came into existence at a single point in time. During the 70's they came about with a theory called solid state theory to combat the big bang which they believed the universe has always existed and cosmic whatever's just come into form. However during the 80's we proved the big bang theory to be science fact by finding cosmic radiation from the moment of creation lingering in space all around us. So the question is why to our creation, not why to life as we know it.

Einsteins theory of relativity and quantum theory are both science fact. However they do not like each other and disagree unfortunately. They do not offer a theory of everything, unlike proposed theories do like string theory. String theory could possibly bridge the gap.

The planck spacecraft was launched in 2009 as a space observatory that has been mapping super high resolutions of space that we were not capable of doing before. It is almost completed and they will be releasing their extremely detailed completed map of the universe towards the end of 2012. Most of the new theories to the explain scientifically how the universe exists will be proven or disproven by the images from Planck. Planck is capable of taking super fully detailed pictures of the universe extremely far away, which means we are looking at light and radiation from near the beginning of the universe which is where we need to apply our theories like string theory for example.

The answers are much closer than you think.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_(spacecraft)

I LUV MY S13

you are totally wrong, we are no where near to having a "very good" understanding of the universe..there is so much that is unexplained

and im sure most of you here clowning on religion havent even bothered to read a bible, torah, koran or the taisho..to be able to even argue this you gotta understand both sides of the spectrum and accept the possibility of your side being wrong, religion or not


for any of you to say you KNOW god is or isnt real is ignorant in itself, cuz you really just dont

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lflkajfj12123

^ Shut up and read my previous post above. K and THANKS ignorant one.

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i read it idiot, ever think the more we know, the more we realize we dont know shit? ever here one answer arizes another question? your so quick to think this will solve everything and we'll be ok, but it will bring in more questions and thoughts..

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lflkajfj12123

Solve everything?

String theory is the first candidate for the theory of everything (TOE), a manner of describing the known fundamental forces (gravitational, electromagnetic, weak and strong interactions) and matter (quarks and leptons) in a mathematically complete system.

Its only fault is that is very experimentally hard to prove it but we will be able to prove it with data that the Plank spacecraft is going to provide of the very early formations of the universe.

Solving scientific questions and problems like this is pretty prevalent to answering most of our other questions that could ever possibly arise. It will offer a complete theory to explain almost all phenomenon. This is completely different than some philosophical questions like the irony of our existence. Philosophy is endless amounts of questions and thought experiments. Science is problem solving and explanation.

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you need to stop quoting the internet and read a book, we have a good perspective of the universe and its functions, but very far from a good understanding...coming from a major in astronomy and aerospace engineering trust me

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lflkajfj12123

Cool story bro. I'm about to apply for my graduate program to get my PhD in Mechanical Engineering. You sound like an idiot. Prove your argument rather than saying I'm wrong... until then you are still WRONG.

Only thing I copypasta'd is this because well quite frankly I couldn't have said it better myself.

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BustedS13

You are a jackass

You are a jackass

You are a jackass

You are a jackass

my god sits in the back of the limousine
my god comes in a wrapper of cellophane
my god pouts on the cover of the magazine
my god's a shallow little bitch trying to make the scene

this is the correct answer.



You are a jackass

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ESmorz

It's not really a question of what created us, but what created the domino effect that led to us, I understand this. I like to think it was all some sort of happenstance. Some matters blue balls in a different plane of time and space cracking through.

Being self aware with a finite lifespan sucks, and people need answers I guess.

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congrats on the PH, quite an accomplishment..

now im not gonna spoon feed your stupid ass just cuz google is your buddy and you cant seem to read a book...try this Amazon.com: astronomy books: Books your in luck too free shipping

now i sound like an idiot? half the shit you say on this site sounds like it came from an 8yr old retard

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-Jorge

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did you get molested by a priest as a child?

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-Jorge

ESmorz

Were you breast fed by a Priest?

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hahaha good one, but im agnostic

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lflkajfj12123

Yeah you said it better than I could. Existentialism sucks. Our lives are completely ironic and seem meaningless... but alas I wake up everyday and take a piss.

Karl Marx's famous quote on religion...

Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.

Thank you.

I didn't ask you to spoon feed me... I just told you if you're going to say I'm wrong then at least say WHY. Otherwise you just look like more of a dumb ass than you think I am by making a statement without an argument.

P.S. I have plenty of books on astronomy and other cool scientific things. I should take a picture of my "read" shelf.

Stop talking about yourself. I at least compose my thoughts into meaningful sentences rather than sounding like a baboon in my posts. You should really not take what I say on this forum so seriously as 90% of the posters on here are fucking morons. I just egg shit on because I CAN. Sorry for acting like an "8yr old retard".

irax

explain why this animal is a mammal!
and stop trying to be cool by quoting Trent Reznor

Unfortunately this is only partly true. Yes there are thousands of sea faring species that we know nothing about, but large ones live in an area we know a lot about. Do we have a lot of contact with huge species? Nope. Do we always find their remains? Nope. Is it possible for gigantic species to live in the deep ocean? Not really, there isn't enough resources to feed off of. While other species smaller than a house cat do manage to survive. It becomes more impossible for large creatures to live the deeper they go in the ocean.


s0apgun: if you like Marx then you might like Christopher Hitchens.

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lflkajfj12123

I read his book "God is Not Great" and I pretty much agreed with him on almost everything.

ESmorz

Explain why you think this animal, that is a mammal, was created to be a fucked up conglomeration of ducks and beavers.

To me at least, it makes more sense that it is somewhat of a bridge between water-going ancestors and the mammals of today. Much like the early hominids that lived alongside us. Not entirely human, not entirely ape (not saying that ducks and beavers are anyway related). This one has just happened to survive.

Platypus poop looks like mini footballs too.

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