kandyflip445

If the sunroof plug was like that I would buy one.

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We just finished a mold for the center console meter panel. This pic shows a single layer panel, but the production pieces coming out next week are sandwiched with alluminum honeycomb and carbon on both sides. Total thickness is 10 mm. and like a plate of armor. As you can see in the pic, it can easily handle up to six aftermarket meters.

tiggs

Umm, is that gonna be RHD only? And umm.. Can you do that for the s13? I really need a new console piece and CF would be perfect for my carpc setup.. Would it come like, blank, no cutouts, so I could make whatever cuts I needed?

bing

awesome thread...

i'd LOVE to see a good rear under diffuser, kinda like the NSX ones. assume people are using OEM aero (silvia 2 piece rear, type X 3 piece rears or USDM 1 piece hatch rear) and not big guady kits.

very subtle BMW wing would be nice, but i'll be making a CF one soon enough.

a buddy of mine has a crazy FC carbon gauge holder than contours the curves on the dash above the gauge cluster. make something like that for the right side of the gauge cluster (to avoid conflict with HUD dashes).

CF coupe roof wing?

CF front license plate bracket that lets the plate flip up when driving more than 30 mph

CF rivet on over-fenders, but you'll be racing me to get them done....lol

here is a GREAT ONE - CF heatsheild for SR20DET bottom mount manifold. i need one of these now. how does CF stand up to red hot manifold temps?

CF brake MC brace for LHD cars

CF engine-bay cowls for everything

CF IC piping is a GREAT idea. you could pre-fab the hot-pipe with various flanges and the cold pipe into through the battery tray. these are pieces that everyone will have and they are the only ones people will see on most cars.

CF battery box?

CF rivet-on vented hood scoops like the one in the group buy section

CF shroud to go over the rad to the valve cover, acts like clutch fan shroud?

CF pipe for turbo to air filter?

Cf oil catch can

CF fog light brackets w/ vents in place of the grilles on USDM cars and DTRL's on CDM cars.

CF brake sheilds that mount to the TC rods like the aluminum ones from SPL

k, i'm out of ideas

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bing is the worlds biggest ricer

G Corp makes a carbon fiber dash but its RHD only

kognition

Our car is rhd yes, but that part that you see is the same for usdm. And yes, we
are doing the S13 panel this month. Our car is being prepped for nasa's SRX class for the 2006 season, so we needed a reliable platform to mount the instrumentation. The honeycomb core is sandwiched in a vacuum process and they WILL come blank so you can cut them.

A sandwich core allows multiple holes to be cut without sacrificing strength of the panel. I will post more pics this week with the actual alluminum honeycomb core so you can see it.

On the issue of other parts, we are releasing carbon fiber /alluminum honeycomb core hoods (S14 Zenki and Kouki) and trunks next month. And also our version of the R33 GT rear spoiler. We will be displaying our new parts in our booth at D1 in December.

bing

fukk, i cant get rid of the fan-club no matter where i go.

scotty (DTS) is a poo-face...

oh i am ruining the thread.

anyways..

horray for CF

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chmercer

^^^
these are all stupid. lol.

also - on the arm rests on the webpage, could you mould a tab in on the back so that you could screw the door hinge into it? imho its totally stupid to just cover up a stock part with cf, at least make it a full replacment.

kouki-gymkhana

I'm dying for someone to come out with a triple dash gauge pod like this one that would fit above the center AC vents on the s13 dash and both conforms to the dash contour perfectly and is angled slightly towards the driver



I'm also very interested the CF radio/AC/shifter surround piece. I'd pay $$$ for it.

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bing

chmercer,

how do you figure that CF aero, CF guage cholder and CF IC piping are ghey but you are all about CF arm rests?

thats a tad fuxxored to me, especially since many others are bumping some of those ideas as well.

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kandyflip445

IC piping would be awesome. Maybe you could make a flange to cut the CF short so they can use different connector piping for various turbo placements. Dunno if that would work though.

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CF:
* driveshaft
* suspension arms
* underbody diffuser
* sunroof panel (to rid of the glass & the mechanicals)
* strut bars
* trunk lid.

Var

Subframe. skeet

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Cup Holders. Most S13 owners don't really use their ashtrays, mainly because the lighter doesn't work. Maybe its just me... Ashtray-replacing cupholder.

kognition

IC PIPING: I have studied this subject. If you are prepared to drop $500 for a kit
then we will make them. But Garrett has confirmed with me that any insulation
benefits from hot engine air are not enough to really measure because the air is travelling at such a high velocity. We are sleeving the piping in our Silvia though
it is just for looks.

S13 cupholder: Yes i am putting this together once our donor console arrives. Also making a DIN plate for gauge mounting for it.

sLiDewAys

ca18det vented carbon fiber coil pack cover. and id say 50.00-80.00

chmercer

lol im not all about a cf armrest. id never buy that in a million years. i was just saying that it would be slightly less stupid if it was a full replacment part instead of just a ricer cover.

gauge holder just go get some fuckin greddy pods for like 15 bucks and stop being a stupid ricer. cf aero, oh wait, yeah, that would weigh like 2 pounds less than FRP aero, and cost about 10 million dollars. fiberglass and carbon fiber weigh like almost the exact same, go buy some fiberglass cloth and some cf cloth, and you will see why its totally rice to be used in a street car with resin. cf tubing the resin would just burn off and turn to trash. like an old cf hood x a million times faster since its in the engine bay. unless this store is gonna bust out the autoclave which i am heavily doubting since the first products were super gel coated mirror covers and armrest.

kandyflip445

I love you.

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god damnit you people why are you so fucking stupid. do you know anything about composite materials. ALL cf strut bars are aluminum tubing with cf riced over the top. suspension arms... no. NO. shut the fuck up.

they already sell trunk lids

diffusers cost a shit load

sunroof panel fine.

kognition

You know nothing about composites or our products. You throw around the word
"ricer" like you were never there before when we all know you were.
Secondly, our carbon sleeved intercooler piping uses 500 degree rated epoxy. Which (because of its high cost) is why you would have to shell out 500 bucks for a kit. And you obviously do not know that CF functions fine up to 600 degrees. It goes into our 4 pound race hoods that are bonded with alluminum honeycomb.... 3 times tougher than any metal hood.
Finally, you made the statement that our parts are "super gel coated". WRONG
If you know anything about our products and it sounds like you don't, you would know that every part we produce is vacuumed in a mold. Then it is in fact AUTOCLAVED at 185 degrees. Gel coats are inferior and useless weight.
We use West epoxy, the best there is. And we use West clearcoat which is an epoxy clearcoat. School up before you start smacking about my products.

You seem more jaded by this car culture than you seem knowledgable about it. Ricer this and ricer that.

kandyflip445

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dude im not hating on your stuff. its just that there is no functionality to a arm rest door cover, mirror covers, rear view mirror cover. none. if they were a replacment shell, hell i might even buy them. save a few pounds here and there, cool. but as it sits, they are basically expensive decorations. and yes im sure you vaccume bag, what else would you do, put the resin on with a brush? lol.

your functional parts i would love to see more of. im just trying to shut down the people who keep busting in here with stupid suggestions. drive shaft (poor ass s chassis crowd would never shell out for this) suspension arms, etc. (carbon suspension arms on the street will NEVER HAPPEN EVER EVER dude who i flamed earlier, go read up more on F1 cars) the radio panel looks great, thin sheet, no extra bells and whistles. (like some goofy stick on the dash crazy moulded gauge pod would be.) its so rare to see a clean, streamlined part like this. i honestly like it a lot, but i use a defi headsup. if i had traditional gauges, i would seriously buy one. i anxiously await your full carbon hood as well, as it sits, the only way to get a hood without a fiberglass body is by spending 1200$ at a japanese importer.

sorry for the misunderstanding.

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please explain how you get a gloss finish if you do in fact pre preg the parts and use no additional coating? that seems impossible to me. also, did you say "carbon sleeved" intercooler piping? im unfamiliar with that term. you dont mean aluminum pipe covered in carbon fiber do you?

so that i dont sound completly un constructive with my posting, here are a couple of suggestions that I would like to see.

pre preg door skins with no clear or anything unneccesary. no moulding required, just a sheet. Hell i would just buy a rectangular sheet as long as it was of a larger size than the door, trim to fit. buyer could cut small holes for mirror/power lock switches if desired, or just delete them. rivet/sheet metal screw into the door panel and there you go.

gauge pod plate. basically the same as above, could come pre drilled with place for a tach etc or could just be solid and left up to the buyer.

mirror bases!! they have lightweight cheap mirrors all over ebay but noone makes mirror bases so everybody always ends up making ratty looking aluminum rivet on bases which kindof defeats the whole thing for the most part. if you guys could make some mirror bases, and even formula mirrors (think craftsquare) i would buy them. over the ebay mirrors i mean.

big hood vents! like uras. raceonusa has some vents and stuff but they are frp and kindof funky. if you just made the louvers on the vent single plane, not moulded like uras/dmax/whatever it would help with costs, be lighter, and better in terms of flow. like kazama s15, cwest s2k circuit cars, you know?

big functional canards, like voltex!

front rivet on undertray, trim to fit (basically this could just be a large race plate) maybe even mould a venturi into it like the do luck one.

this stuff could be reasonably priced i think, not much moulding required, no need for clear, only 1-2 layers required for the interior pieces and other parts so it would save materials as well

kandyflip445

What else could sleeved mean? He said there is really no function to it he said he's doing it for looks.

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oh allright i missed that part. im all about rice, but carbon fiber is so expensive, it seems goofy to me to just use it for decoration.

btw do you guys just sell race plates by themselves?

kognition

I will do my best to explain, i know there is a hell of alot of misinformation about composites. But it did not evolve for the sake of the import industry. I am actually one of the guys that wants to produce the best quality parts. And we are prepping our Silvia for the 2006 NASA SRX Class season to back our performance parts up. Of course if we just made super light weight performance
parts from CF we wouldn't be in business because most people can't afford a $2,500 set of cf doors. There is the bottom line to consider. I want to make those serious cf performance parts you talk about, but i have to market them
to Japan and the UK because the dollar is so damn weak these days. Nobody here in the states could afford them. Carbon fiber mirror covers, console covers etc. fill a market need. It is logical for me to make from a business pov. 99% of the guys out there don't race. Which leaves the 1% asking for performance carbon parts they could not afford. Now i will say, that those useless parts you mentioned actually brought in enough money for us to start producing the alluminum honeycomb core hoods. If these came from Japan, you could never afford them. You would pay about $2,000 for one. The Yen
works against you guys and thats why you are always fucking broke! I am one of a handful of companies here in the states working to compete against
Japanese carbon. Forget China, were not even talking about that crap. I am trying to get my brand name into Japan if you can imagine how tough that is.
But i am doing it. You know i have Great Company asking us to make intake ducts for them right now for their line in Japan? Thats what i'm talking about.
Enough blabbing, and on to your question about clearcoats.
A Gel Coat is usually a polyester based coating sprayed into an rtv (silicone mold). When it gels, you insert your CF and cure it. Our parts are made with the laminating epoxy, cured, and hand coated with a super optically clear epoxy. It is applied by hand using rubber gloves to smooth out. Then it evens itself out over the entire surface and cures overnite. Every company has to have a product that they can sell every day to pay the bills. I make mirror covers for the 350Z and most of those people are just daily drivers. Somebody has to do it. And here is what i mean by CF sleaving.

chmercer

ah ok. sorry for sounding so agressive previously. i understand now that your cover parts are the "bread and butter" so to speak.

any chance you could give me a price on race plates by the square foot or so? up to a certain max dimension i guess, assuming that once you have to start using wider rolls the price would go up. just using whatever the most readily available weave is, no real concern for that. also this would just be plain jane stuff, no need for the clear (unless of course it would be cheaper to use the clear for some reason? which i doubt) basically going for cost effectivness, the less processing you have to do the better, that way i can buy more of it

kognition

No sweat,
i take alot of pride in my work, and it pays my mortgage so i have to defend my name for the sake of business.

I would do blank plates but we need all of our cf for the holiday season. You should check out Dragon Plate for panels.

Mike

Ian

could you make me a jacket out of that?


on a seirous note. I am VERY VERY VERY interested in an S14 Sunroof Delete Panel.

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statik

can you make something like this =]



mine uses too much bondo and weighs like 12lbs haha, then again, i had no idea what i was doing

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oh god...you filled the entire hole in w/ bondo didnt you...

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