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BossHogg · 07-10-2013, 06:40 PM

glad it helped!

rastaman · 05-27-2014, 08:28 PM

sorry if i missed it but how well does your fans work to cool the car if they are in front and blocked by the AC condenser ? how did you wire the fans? any over heating issues?

Sileighty_85 · 05-27-2014, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rastaman

sorry if i missed it but how well does your fans work to cool the car if they are in front and blocked by the AC condenser ? how did you wire the fans? any over heating issues?

been 2 years since ive driven it but if i remember correctly in the city (on 100*F days) it stays around low 80's *C, highway was probably around mid 90's*CThey are wired as pushers using a DIF PWM controller, there is a schematic I posted in the thread somwhere.Nope never had any over heating issues thus far.

rastaman · 05-28-2014, 08:19 PM

What model FAL are you running?

Sileighty_85 · 05-28-2014, 08:39 PM

it was 4 years ago, I dont remember. but there is an instruction manual in the back ground of the fan pics on the first page

enderr · 06-02-2014, 11:01 PM

any pics of the car now? or anything else

Sileighty_85 · 06-03-2014, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enderr

any pics of the car now? or anything else

Its in storage so no new real updates.

Although I did score a Power FC for it so cant wait to replace the Stock ECU with it

islandtuner373 · 06-05-2014, 02:47 PM

Sileighty_85

I'm in the process of debating if I'm going to purchase my 1995/1996 USDM 240sx the previous owner did a RB25 swap but he took the motor out to swap into a S15 so if all goes well I'll be the new owner of the S14 by this weekend your thread has been SUPER informative on the swap and I'm most likely going to use it as a guideline for my parts list thanks again for the inspiration :-D

Sileighty_85 · 06-17-2014, 04:08 AM

Glad I can help and hope it works out for ya.

Picked up a Power FC for the RB25 for like $200! So looks like I wont be needing this Z32 ECU now

Cant wait to get that thing tuned!

+

sleeper108 · 06-23-2014, 08:31 AM

where the hell did you get a PFC for $200? and do they have another?! lol

Sileighty_85 · 06-24-2014, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleeper108

where the hell did you get a PFC for $200? and do they have another?! lol

lol one of the perks of living in JapanNah he only had one.

BenRice · 06-24-2014, 08:53 PM

Getting a PFC is the best thing you could do for this engine, the factory ECU's are garbage. Had my PFC in for almost 2 years and it's still going fine.

So easy to set up too, just reset the map back to factory before getting it tuned. Only took my tuner 2 hours in total from driving in to driving out (including tie down/untie time).

Sileighty_85 · 06-25-2014, 04:29 PM

yeah they are, I had an R33 back when I was in Okinawa and noticed a huge difference on one of my friends R33's with one on it.yeah I have a one on my S13 been playing with it for about 5-6 years, as well as one for my R32. I absolutely love the Boost controller kits for it.

l adam l · 08-14-2014, 10:25 PM

That xspower manifold...I had one on my rb20 and installed it while the engine was out...that exact manifold. It covers up one of the screws to the valve cover and that's the only way to get it off if it's in the car. I literally had to break my valve cover to get the damn thing off. I'll never buy anymore of that trash.

Sileighty_85 · 08-20-2014, 01:24 AM

Yep shits garbage^^

So ill be heading back to the states for a month next month and get to see my babies again!!

Bought some presents for them haha

Picked up a Kouki S14 spoiler

1GR-FE · 08-20-2014, 08:17 AM

Your little one is getting big! Title for that pic should be "baby's first spoiler"

Sileighty_85 · 08-20-2014, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1GR-FE

Your little one is getting big! Title for that pic should be "babies first spoiler"

Haha yeah she's 15 months now.

When I unwrapped it she wanted to play with it and got mad when I took it away.. Little gear head haha

rastaman · 08-20-2014, 02:44 PM

Are you running ac ? Any settings to get the power fc to kick the idle up when you run AC ? Mine drops to 600 from 900 with AC on and power fc..not sure if I can get it to kick up when AC is running..

Sileighty_85 · 08-20-2014, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rastaman

Are you running ac ? Any settings to get the power fc to kick the idle up when you run AC ? Mine drops to 600 from 900 with AC on and power fc..not sure if I can get it to kick up when AC is running..

yeah in the idle setting, there are RPM adjustments for the A/C idle on and off.Gotta make sure the idle up solenoid is working as well, its the purple plug on the IACV

Sileighty_85 · 09-30-2014, 11:57 PM

Finally go this one running today. Alt is pretty weak but with a good battery seems to be just enough to keep her going. I have a rebuilt alt but its back in Japan....

interior was pretty rough for sitting for 2 years so have to rip out majority of the interior to clean everyhting.

little sad, the wing I bought I was unable to ship due to size

rastaman · 10-01-2014, 05:25 AM

cant get my idle up to work with ac. I changed out the idle up silonoide on the iacv no luck. The idle is set to 1100 with AC on in the power fc and 900 without ac. I have the WS harness, q45 TB, greddy mani. do I need to change out the iacv unit or can I getaway with just the silionode? idle always seem to drop when ever it sees a load (idles fine with no load). When fans kick on or headlights turn on it drops 100rpm but when ac kicks on it drops 400 rpm. not sure what settings in the PFC controls loads. power steering does not rise idle when full lock eighter. any suggestion ?

jabadboy77 · 11-11-2014, 03:35 PM

Best build thread I have read man. Very inspiring I will be doing an rb25 swap also but into a s13 lol but this thread will still help me big time man

PrimeDirective · 11-12-2014, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rastaman

cant get my idle up to work with ac. I changed out the idle up silonoide on the iacv no luck. The idle is set to 1100 with AC on in the power fc and 900 without ac. I have the WS harness, q45 TB, greddy mani. do I need to change out the iacv unit or can I getaway with just the silionode? idle always seem to drop when ever it sees a load (idles fine with no load). When fans kick on or headlights turn on it drops 100rpm but when ac kicks on it drops 400 rpm. not sure what settings in the PFC controls loads. power steering does not rise idle when full lock eighter. any suggestion ?

Have you done the idle learn procedure? When you first install the PFC and initialize it the first time it runs it supposedly does a 30 minute idle learn. Its something like turn on the car and let it idle with normal load for 10 minutes, then turn on your lights and heater fan for 10 minutes, and lastly turn on the A/C for 10 minutes.

This is just from memory, I would Google power fc idle learn.

tkacale · 01-31-2015, 08:20 AM

All I can say is wow. You were way ahead of the times when you did this and kudos on the skills and details. I been running my rb25 zenki for a bit and I wanna make some changes. First place I want to start is the cluster. The idea you had for being able to use both s14 and r33 clusters is something I want to replicate (imitation is the sincerest form of flattery). Can you shed some light on making it work? How does the s13 harness wiring match up with the s14 harness? Parts needed, etc

Sileighty_85 · 01-31-2015, 08:55 AM

Thanks, really wish I had a garage Things might have been better/different.

Doesnt bother me at all.

ahhh man that was like 3 years. Might be difficult to explain.

All you need is 2 sets of S13 cluster connectors, a good soldering Iron setup, Heat shrink, E-Tape, and a multimeter (Optional) and a whole lot of time.

The wires between the S13 plug and S14 harness are irreverent I just using the connector.

I think what I did was first Pin in the stock Clusters connector. Cut one wire at a time and pinned that wire to the appropriate pin. ( I think I de-pinned my connector and tried to match the colors to the OE wire as much as possible)

Pin location doesnt matter as long as the connector pins line up. but only for the stock clusters pin out.

Once I had the stock cluster pinned I traced the wires and tracks on both the clusters and marked the function of the wires then mirrored the stock gauge cluster connectors pin out on the R33 connector.

Hope this makes sense.

tkacale · 01-31-2015, 08:59 AM

So basically cut 2 s13 harnesses from the chassis side to get the male and female. Wire the female to the s14 chassis side. Use the s14 and r33 pig tails to wire to the male side

tkacale · 01-31-2015, 11:25 AM

one more question. my s14 cluster tach doesn't work properly because obviously 4 cylinder tach reading a 6 cylinder. i want to get the dakota box which fixes the error. BUT how would that affect the r33 cluster when it gets plugged in

Sileighty_85 · 02-03-2015, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkacale

one more question. my s14 cluster tach doesn't work properly because obviously 4 cylinder tach reading a 6 cylinder. i want to get the dakota box which fixes the error. BUT how would that affect the r33 cluster when it gets plugged in

Not sure if Zenki's have this but on my Kouki, I had a potentiometer on the back that I could adjust to the RB signal.

But if you wire in a DD all you do it "unwire" it back to stock when you wanna swap in the R33 cluster

Yellow4g63 · 02-03-2015, 04:34 PM

Zenki's have the potentionmeter too.

Kyomae · 04-07-2015, 11:35 AM

I just read every post from page one, truly an inspiration! Good job, man!

I have a '97 s14 and I've always wanted to swap an RB into it.

Unrelated to RB's/cars:

I've also been extremely interested in living in Japan for at least a couple years, I was wondering if you might have any suggestions on where to get started in the whole process. I'm currently a sophomore in college, so I still have a few years before moving there could happen.

07-10-2013, 06:40 PM	#481
BossHogg Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: america Posts: 998 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	glad it helped! __________________

05-28-2014, 08:39 PM	#485
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	it was 4 years ago, I dont remember. but there is an instruction manual in the back ground of the fan pics on the first page __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

06-02-2014, 11:01 PM	#486
enderr Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: san gabriel valley Posts: 307 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	any pics of the car now? or anything else __________________

06-17-2014, 04:08 AM	#489
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Glad I can help and hope it works out for ya. Picked up a Power FC for the RB25 for like $200! So looks like I wont be needing this Z32 ECU now Cant wait to get that thing tuned! + __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

06-25-2014, 04:29 PM	#493
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	yeah they are, I had an R33 back when I was in Okinawa and noticed a huge difference on one of my friends R33's with one on it.yeah I have a one on my S13 been playing with it for about 5-6 years, as well as one for my R32. I absolutely love the Boost controller kits for it. __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

05-27-2014, 08:28 PM	#482
rastaman Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fl. Posts: 708 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	sorry if i missed it but how well does your fans work to cool the car if they are in front and blocked by the AC condenser ? how did you wire the fans? any over heating issues?

05-28-2014, 08:19 PM	#484
rastaman Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fl. Posts: 708 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	What model FAL are you running?

06-05-2014, 02:47 PM	#488
islandtuner373 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Freeport, Grand Bahama Age: 31 Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sileighty_85 I'm in the process of debating if I'm going to purchase my 1995/1996 USDM 240sx the previous owner did a RB25 swap but he took the motor out to swap into a S15 so if all goes well I'll be the new owner of the S14 by this weekend your thread has been SUPER informative on the swap and I'm most likely going to use it as a guideline for my parts list thanks again for the inspiration :-D

06-23-2014, 08:31 AM	#490
sleeper108 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 31 Posts: 511 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	where the hell did you get a PFC for $200? and do they have another?! lol

06-24-2014, 08:53 PM	#492
BenRice Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Mt Maunganui, New Zealand Age: 37 Posts: 84 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Getting a PFC is the best thing you could do for this engine, the factory ECU's are garbage. Had my PFC in for almost 2 years and it's still going fine. So easy to set up too, just reset the map back to factory before getting it tuned. Only took my tuner 2 hours in total from driving in to driving out (including tie down/untie time).

08-14-2014, 10:25 PM	#494
l adam l Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Murfeesboro, TN Age: 33 Posts: 254 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That xspower manifold...I had one on my rb20 and installed it while the engine was out...that exact manifold. It covers up one of the screws to the valve cover and that's the only way to get it off if it's in the car. I literally had to break my valve cover to get the damn thing off. I'll never buy anymore of that trash.

08-20-2014, 01:24 AM	#495
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Yep shits garbage^^ So ill be heading back to the states for a month next month and get to see my babies again!! Bought some presents for them haha Picked up a Kouki S14 spoiler __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

08-20-2014, 08:17 AM	#496
1GR-FE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Athens, Ga Posts: 28 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Your little one is getting big! Title for that pic should be "baby's first spoiler" __________________ Last edited by 1GR-FE; 08-20-2014 at 11:27 AM..

08-20-2014, 02:44 PM	#498
rastaman Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fl. Posts: 708 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Are you running ac ? Any settings to get the power fc to kick the idle up when you run AC ? Mine drops to 600 from 900 with AC on and power fc..not sure if I can get it to kick up when AC is running..

09-30-2014, 11:57 PM	#500
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Finally go this one running today. Alt is pretty weak but with a good battery seems to be just enough to keep her going. I have a rebuilt alt but its back in Japan.... interior was pretty rough for sitting for 2 years so have to rip out majority of the interior to clean everyhting. little sad, the wing I bought I was unable to ship due to size __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

10-01-2014, 05:25 AM	#501
rastaman Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fl. Posts: 708 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	cant get my idle up to work with ac. I changed out the idle up silonoide on the iacv no luck. The idle is set to 1100 with AC on in the power fc and 900 without ac. I have the WS harness, q45 TB, greddy mani. do I need to change out the iacv unit or can I getaway with just the silionode? idle always seem to drop when ever it sees a load (idles fine with no load). When fans kick on or headlights turn on it drops 100rpm but when ac kicks on it drops 400 rpm. not sure what settings in the PFC controls loads. power steering does not rise idle when full lock eighter. any suggestion ?

11-11-2014, 03:35 PM	#502
jabadboy77 Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: long island Age: 27 Posts: 129 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Best build thread I have read man. Very inspiring I will be doing an rb25 swap also but into a s13 lol but this thread will still help me big time man

01-31-2015, 08:20 AM	#504
tkacale Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Big Apple Age: 33 Posts: 407 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	All I can say is wow. You were way ahead of the times when you did this and kudos on the skills and details. I been running my rb25 zenki for a bit and I wanna make some changes. First place I want to start is the cluster. The idea you had for being able to use both s14 and r33 clusters is something I want to replicate (imitation is the sincerest form of flattery). Can you shed some light on making it work? How does the s13 harness wiring match up with the s14 harness? Parts needed, etc

01-31-2015, 08:55 AM	#505
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Thanks, really wish I had a garage Things might have been better/different. Doesnt bother me at all. ahhh man that was like 3 years. Might be difficult to explain. All you need is 2 sets of S13 cluster connectors, a good soldering Iron setup, Heat shrink, E-Tape, and a multimeter (Optional) and a whole lot of time. The wires between the S13 plug and S14 harness are irreverent I just using the connector. I think what I did was first Pin in the stock Clusters connector. Cut one wire at a time and pinned that wire to the appropriate pin. ( I think I de-pinned my connector and tried to match the colors to the OE wire as much as possible) Pin location doesnt matter as long as the connector pins line up. but only for the stock clusters pin out. Once I had the stock cluster pinned I traced the wires and tracks on both the clusters and marked the function of the wires then mirrored the stock gauge cluster connectors pin out on the R33 connector. Hope this makes sense. __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

01-31-2015, 08:59 AM	#506
tkacale Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Big Apple Age: 33 Posts: 407 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So basically cut 2 s13 harnesses from the chassis side to get the male and female. Wire the female to the s14 chassis side. Use the s14 and r33 pig tails to wire to the male side

01-31-2015, 11:25 AM	#507
tkacale Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Big Apple Age: 33 Posts: 407 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	one more question. my s14 cluster tach doesn't work properly because obviously 4 cylinder tach reading a 6 cylinder. i want to get the dakota box which fixes the error. BUT how would that affect the r33 cluster when it gets plugged in

02-03-2015, 04:34 PM	#509
Yellow4g63 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Socal Posts: 1,451 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Zenki's have the potentionmeter too. __________________ 95 240sx RB20 415whp 91 Nx2000 VVL yo

04-07-2015, 11:35 AM	#510
Kyomae Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Michigan/Illinois Age: 26 Posts: 22 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just read every post from page one, truly an inspiration! Good job, man! I have a '97 s14 and I've always wanted to swap an RB into it. Unrelated to RB's/cars: I've also been extremely interested in living in Japan for at least a couple years, I was wondering if you might have any suggestions on where to get started in the whole process. I'm currently a sophomore in college, so I still have a few years before moving there could happen.

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