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Are there any purist Left on this Board? V. jdm parts etc.
So while I know now a days it's pretty popular for many to purchase what ever is the best bang for the buck no matter where it came from but any purists left on this board?
While I may not be a fan of mishimoto radiators, Seibon hoods, xxr wheels, ISR, fortune auto coils, Grip Royal, etc people get them due to still getting the job done. I do love seeing a jdm full jdm parts/styling car. ![]() ![]() |
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While Im not by any means a purist, I do appreciate the practice. Like I've said lots of times before, Im sick of seeing ls's in every damn popular jdm chassis out there.
Altought, imho, being a purist doesn't mean your car's gotta look like a clown car like the one posted. I mean, the wheels aren;t even matching, and idgaf what brand and how rare they are. And is that a "hoonigan" sticker? jajajaja NO....
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2. Hert drives with animal style. why would a hoonigan sticker surprise you? 3. please stop before you hurt yourself |
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This guy is pretty self-righteous and thinks he's the only opinion when it comes to cars. I don't bother informing or disagreeing with him anymore.
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You have an interesting definition of "purist", turboshoebox... When I think "purist", I think OEM+ or basically restomod.
I think you're looking for circa 2002 drift style, which ain't a bad thing. That's what Final Bout was all about.
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I'm with simmode1. I think you're into the late 90's/early 2000's scene in Japan. If thats what you are referencing, I too am a fan. I just started a build and am going for that look. However, after pissing away countless dollars over the years on track cars and a feature car and essentially "growing up" with kids/family, I now prioritize my disposable income a little better.
I literally just ordered OEM nissan internals/Tomei engine components for a long block rebuild. Hell, I spent 3x more refurbishing a OEM 5 lug setup than what an aftermarket one would have cost. If the part isn't critical and simplistic in function/design, I don't mind priortizing spending and going with cheaper alternatives. |
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Not really what i'd call a "purist". I like the IDEA of that kind've shit, but im not dropping 2K on 326 power coilovers when fortune autos are stout and can be serviced here in the states. Not spending crazy money on ikeya formula suspension arms either when plenty of other brands work and perform the same job.
Just my personal opinion. Ball out on rare parts that are cool, not extra money for the same function unless safety/strength is being compromised. |
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I think there are more people left on Zilvia that have a "purist/2001" mindset than younger folks following the current trends. There are not many consistent users left, but I think most of the ones that remain are people that have been around these cars for years and have a similar mindset to what you are describing.
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Like some of the other guys, I too was thinking a different definition of purest- more so the OEM guys with the super clean and original cars. Shoutout because those are by far my favorite restoration projects/builds on this forum
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That's Hert's car? I thought he drove that LS FC3S... I can't keep up with all these guys...lol
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Hert does have the FC3S, it was LQ powered, and now has gone back to rotary. |
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Japanese Brands. Back then Japan was at the fore front of the car world. Every part was based in racing and performance that's what they were developed for and trickled down into the aftermarket. Parts based, on pefromance. In today's world to keep up with competition from the US, China and other producers there has been a decline in quality mainly to keep up with competition. Any consumer that thinks oh its Japanese and marks it as good shit still has the lingering influence of the past. Some Japanese "brands" now a days are really no better than China stuff. They just did better marketing and put some japanese fonts and heritage around it. Really anything good you have to be a bit in the know to understand since those companies still have the mindset of catering to racing and Don't really market to our demographics. Instant Gratification and Social Media: A lot of the new enthusiast were born into ease of access and instant gratication having it now getting what they want now without much thought into the why. With the shift away from brick and motor shops and everyone's ability to "Open their own thing" and e-commerce has taken a lot of the knowledge base away. Social media now has influencers. New enthusiast see those cars and mimic them. I never fault them most of them don't really know any better. When they start to mimic the rhyme and reason on how the car got that way gets lost and you just get a jumble of parts and attempts to get a look but not the performance. But anyways I can go on foooor days but we will do that another day. In short to build a good community you have to educate, have good communication. You'll be surprised how many customers I have that could have ended up being ricers but when you build a good relationship and help them you get better builds. A lot of stuff people have asked for I basically asked the question why and thats how the conversation started and all of a sudden they know more they know better and are now able to make better descisions and purchases vs slapping whatever is on. Dont Mind the paint. Spirit Rei Splitters great look! The front can not withstand track use. One of those compomises because I still wanted to be cool. They will be saved for street use not track ![]() ![]() ![]() This seibon hood looks cool thats about it. The vents arent in the proper location. A great example of knowing better would have influenced my decision on a better hood. If you just want the look go for it. Saves weight. ![]() |
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I would consider im still in the purist mode. Working in the industry does change the way I look at products since I have better insight. I choose parts depending on what performs the best. My car does rock c-west aero, craft square mirrors, bn sport hood, endless brake pads and zeal function x coils.
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I don't even think you can define "purist" anymore.
Look closely to videos coming out of japan now a days, they run cheap parts all the time too. Knock off wheels, crappy steering wheels and interior parts, generic suspension arms galore. I think a lot of us see Japan and the "purist" mentality through rose colored glasses. In reality, as long as the cars are true to style, I don't think anyone really cares anymore. Just keep it lowish, painted one color, and cohesive in the chosen style and it should always look good. Of course I respect people out there still doing it by the book with all legit everything, but when I see kids running US market or replica parts, I really can't be mad as long as it looks like it was put together with care. As for my own car, I follow the 00' styling, but my parts are about 50/50 replica versus real. Basically if its key to safe and reliable operation like a radiator, clutch, diff or turbo, real parts only. But for things like aero, intercooler piping, exhausts and the like, I really couldn't care less.
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i like seeing that there is interest still in old aero parts and livery and that its making a return to our scene again after years and years of it being considered outmoded with the wave of rocket bunny and RB inspired aero and stylings.
i have nothing against running smaller american brands of suspension parts and coilovers simply because my preference is to work with small businesses being that i am one myself... small business is what started a lot of the this old school stuff in the first place. most of the older aero and suspension brands from Japan are still small business based to this day. its just nice to see that focusing on a smaller product line and keeping it worthwhile in terms of production and quality control is a business model that functions the world over instead of minimizing production costs over product quality when a brand decides to go much larger. most of the higher tier JDM brands scaled back to this business model after the recession in 2008 (Greddy, HKS and Apexi cut a TON of parts from their product lines to focus back on their core items once the economy tanked world wide) |
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Era specific styling is alive and well. There's still people out there spending money on authentic Japanese parts as well.
For me, I have nothing against spending money on QUALITY parts, and not cheap Ebay junk. The S Chassis aftermarket is huge, and there's plenty of parts available from different markets outside of Japan. |
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I am 4 lug but I run 5 lug spacer adapters. I can teach you to be the purist purist there is. Pm me.
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Oh no, that's hert's car??? lol...
The truth is, you all know that might as well be a street car the way things are today. Sorry for insulting your close friend's car, brndck... I guess like somebody else said, it depends on your definition of "purist". Someone said keeping it 4 lug, which Im guessing means leaving it as stock as possible, which Im assuming would include a stock ka. To many others it could mean using only jdm brands and jdm engines (including jdm brand stickers, ughhh...).
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I def think that unless you're restoring it to OEM condition, or just doing a cookie cutter type x build, it's pretty much impossible to be a 240/s-chassis "purist". The sector reinvents itself every few years, so what many people currently consider "purist" (aka 2000 style) is still 5-7 years late imo. |
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We live in an age of instant gratification.
When Black Friday goes throughout the weekend and Cyber Monday lasts damn near all week you have to wonder what's going on as a society. The need to have everything NOW is what makes these dumb fucking kids so quick to buy multiple sets of a replica parts vice one quality part. I think we've all been there but most of us moved on and our taste changed. A lot of my friends give me shit for hunting (and spending money on) OEM cars. I'm willing to pay 'extra' for a car that hasn't been fucked with or fucked up. I guess, in that way, I'm a purist of sorts...but Damon put it best: it's an era most people commit to. Like tacotacotaco said it all depends on the quality of the part. If something that isn't (INSERT BIG NAME COMPANY) works shittier than something from (INSERT SMALLER COMPANY) then anyone who gives a fuck about their car would use the latter. The people doing it for the 'gram or whatever would buy the name-brand. Does anyone realize a lot of JDM shit is outsourced nowadays? No. They'd rather drop a #JDM on IG. Dorki's aero is another point: why in the fuck would anyone pay $800 for a God damn Type X lip when his shit fits well and is more durable? The term purist has different degrees. Maybe some dudes are era purists to a fault while other guys are quality purists.
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Are you saying $800 for the lip is warranted or are you making a funny?
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This thread equates non japanese with junk, china with ls. What kind of mental illness is this, and how could one expect normal car guys (who may be into any number of things that go) to want to try to fit in and deal with that irrational judgement for doing it right? Nothing pure about these cars, built globally to sell to the globe - there's quality and crap, but no pure. Dorkidori and a lot more like him is what it'd take for the 240 to survive as more than a handful or orphaned cars. |
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