300zx brake master middle fitting?? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

*njd07* · 06-03-2008, 12:49 AM

The middle fitting had that stupid plug in it, so I removed it and it there is no fitting inside it. if I install it as is its gonna leak for sure. so I read I could dremel my old 240 master and use the pressed in fitting from that. well I dremeled it only to find out I had the one peice cast 240 master cylinder, there is no pressed in fittings.

Then, I was searching ebay and found this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ksid=p3907.m29

bought it, tryed installing it, it threads into the 300zx master fine, but the stock fitting on the brake hardline doesnt have the same thread pattern as the female end on that ebay fitting. so I cant use it.

how else can I install the middle brake line without having it leak?? can I reflare somehow to seal? anyone experienced this?

4bangers · 06-03-2008, 02:31 AM

what is your car S13 or S14?

Style · 06-03-2008, 09:47 AM

it will probably leak if you dont have that fitting in there, id just go to a junkyard and get a used MC and cut it and use the fitting off that.

*njd07* · 06-03-2008, 10:57 AM

this is for my s13 trak car, non abs. anyone have anther solution then getting that pressed in fitting from an old mc?

Sileighty_85 · 06-03-2008, 11:02 AM

Ive heard the Z31 MC is the same bore size as the Auto S13's with the correct line hook ups.

dftsilvia · 06-03-2008, 11:05 AM

i used a 300zx bmc and it bolted right up when i took the plug out....

*njd07* · 06-03-2008, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dftsilvia

i used a 300zx bmc and it bolted right up when i took the plug out....

yea it bolts up fine, but there is no face for the hardline's fitting to seal on. yours is prolly leaking..no?

xsparc · 06-03-2008, 12:00 PM

Sorry dude, thats crappy. You do need that press in fitting for the flare. It may not leak at first without it but it will sooner than later.

SRpetey · 06-03-2008, 12:17 PM

I had the same problem and gave up. i ended getting one from frsport with the fitting already pressed in. I think the price on them went up.

Xandy Boosts · 06-03-2008, 12:56 PM

I hear there's a fitting in the clutch dampening thing that people remove.

tt99ol · 06-03-2008, 01:14 PM

i used that ebay fitting on mine
its not that its the wrong threads its that they are too thick
i ran a tap through it and it bolted up just fine
no leaks either

*njd07* · 06-03-2008, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tt99ol

i used that ebay fitting on mine
its not that its the wrong threads its that they are too thick
i ran a tap through it and it bolted up just fine
no leaks either

what size tap did you run through it? Im gonna try this.

idahotuner · 06-03-2008, 04:50 PM

i picked upa z31 BMC and it bolted right up with my brake lines on my s13. got it from cody ace.

Ragnarok043 · 06-03-2008, 08:51 PM

you can do what i did and re-flared the middle hard line to a bubble flare inorder to work with out a fitting.

this was the kit i used http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Auto...3756.m20.l1116

tt99ol · 06-03-2008, 09:18 PM

i think it was 10x1.00
the inverted flare works good too and is easy to do

4bangers · 06-05-2008, 01:21 PM

so you either find a flair fitting or flare your hardline? is this right?

I thought the hardline is already flaired? why do we need to flair it more?

I'm looking to do mine soon, so thank for the help guys

tt99ol · 06-05-2008, 02:08 PM

you re-flare it with an iso style flare
it looks like a bubble so it seals against the inward face of the bmc
as opposed to sealing against the cone of the insert

you can probably borrow the tool from autozone

4bangers · 06-06-2008, 04:55 PM

how do you put in the bmc? mine bmc doesn't have the rod that's sticking out from the cylinder and goes into the booster. Can I reuse the 240sx rod and how do I connect it to the booster? thanks

***FaLKoN240*** · 06-06-2008, 05:21 PM

I have 2 extra stock fittings I took out of my S13 one... Haha.

lazysk8er2 · 10-07-2008, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xandy Boosts

I hear there's a fitting in the clutch dampening thing that people remove.

can anyone second this? because im putting in a clutch hardline in a few weeks and ill know then but if someone knows now post up

aguadilla · 10-07-2008, 09:06 PM

I picked up some 3/16" brake hard line approx 6inch lenght and bought a brake line flaring tool cut one end and bubble flared it. Shaped to fit and cut the factory hard line and reflared it and installed a union (not a compression fitting) works great.

lazysk8er2 · 10-16-2008, 12:48 PM

ok i also found that z31 bmc's fit is it worth to go out and buy that or just reflare? i would guess that the bmc i have would def be better but does anyone have first hand experience with both?

IIIXziuR · 10-16-2008, 01:05 PM

Yeah I had the same problem and I purchased an aftermarket BMC that was supposed to already have all the fittings in place. Man what a pain.

I ended up just cutting the fitting out of my stock S14 BMC and tapping it into The Z middle port. I heard that if you use a bubble flair rather than the double flare it might seal (?) importnut.net I think had some good info on this.

SqueekyClean · 10-16-2008, 07:25 PM

LOL. Like many of you guys here,
I am the Z32 brake master.

If you've done dozens of Z32 brake swaps, you are probably like me.
I have these two extra fitting sitting in my Freezer, ready to go.
Why freezer? Metal shrinks. Wink Wink.

I charge all my friends PREMIUM, just for the fittings because the effort it takes to get them are worth what I charge. Installation is delicate, I made a custom rod out of a flared hardline to hit the fitting in. Then use a piece of hard line with the threading and screw it one. I mastered it. Why buy ebay shit, when OEM is best.

LOL.

OEM FITMENT OWNS ALL. NO MODS.

lazysk8er2 · 10-18-2008, 09:04 AM

can anyone hook me up with a fitting please!?!?

06-03-2008, 12:49 AM	#1
njd07 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: canada Age: 35 Posts: 644 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	300zx brake master middle fitting?? The middle fitting had that stupid plug in it, so I removed it and it there is no fitting inside it. if I install it as is its gonna leak for sure. so I read I could dremel my old 240 master and use the pressed in fitting from that. well I dremeled it only to find out I had the one peice cast 240 master cylinder, there is no pressed in fittings. Then, I was searching ebay and found this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ksid=p3907.m29 bought it, tryed installing it, it threads into the 300zx master fine, but the stock fitting on the brake hardline doesnt have the same thread pattern as the female end on that ebay fitting. so I cant use it. how else can I install the middle brake line without having it leak?? can I reflare somehow to seal? anyone experienced this? __________________ s13 parts fs:http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=193416 sr parts fs: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=193399 s14 parts fs:http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=193420 180sx part out http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=203711

06-03-2008, 10:57 AM	#4
njd07 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: canada Age: 35 Posts: 644 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	this is for my s13 trak car, non abs. anyone have anther solution then getting that pressed in fitting from an old mc? __________________ s13 parts fs:http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=193416 sr parts fs: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=193399 s14 parts fs:http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=193420 180sx part out http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=203711

06-03-2008, 11:02 AM	#5
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Ive heard the Z31 MC is the same bore size as the Auto S13's with the correct line hook ups. __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

06-03-2008, 12:00 PM	#8
xsparc Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: san diego area - esco Posts: 461 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sorry dude, thats crappy. You do need that press in fitting for the flare. It may not leak at first without it but it will sooner than later. __________________ No... no one stole my interior... its safely in my garage...

06-03-2008, 12:56 PM	#10
Xandy Boosts Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Long beach Age: 35 Posts: 1,003 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I hear there's a fitting in the clutch dampening thing that people remove. __________________ it's a RUCKUS life

06-03-2008, 02:31 AM	#2
4bangers Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: wa Age: 22 Posts: 367 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	what is your car S13 or S14?

06-03-2008, 09:47 AM	#3
Style Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: on the corner Posts: 337 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	it will probably leak if you dont have that fitting in there, id just go to a junkyard and get a used MC and cut it and use the fitting off that.

06-03-2008, 11:05 AM	#6
dftsilvia Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: buffalo Posts: 248 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	i used a 300zx bmc and it bolted right up when i took the plug out....

06-03-2008, 12:17 PM	#9
SRpetey Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2006 Location: OC Posts: 408 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I had the same problem and gave up. i ended getting one from frsport with the fitting already pressed in. I think the price on them went up.

06-03-2008, 01:14 PM	#11
tt99ol Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: quartz hill CA Age: 34 Posts: 644 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	i used that ebay fitting on mine its not that its the wrong threads its that they are too thick i ran a tap through it and it bolted up just fine no leaks either __________________ Need automotive work done in the antelope valley? Ask me how i can help.

06-03-2008, 04:50 PM	#13
idahotuner Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: St. Maries, Idaho Age: 32 Posts: 1,276 Trader Rating: (17) Rides Gallery: idahotuner Feedback Score: 17 reviews	i picked upa z31 BMC and it bolted right up with my brake lines on my s13. got it from cody ace.

06-03-2008, 08:51 PM	#14
Ragnarok043 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: SF Posts: 285 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	you can do what i did and re-flared the middle hard line to a bubble flare inorder to work with out a fitting. this was the kit i used http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Auto...3756.m20.l1116

06-03-2008, 09:18 PM	#15
tt99ol Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: quartz hill CA Age: 34 Posts: 644 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	i think it was 10x1.00 the inverted flare works good too and is easy to do __________________ Need automotive work done in the antelope valley? Ask me how i can help.

06-05-2008, 01:21 PM	#16
4bangers Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: wa Age: 22 Posts: 367 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	so you either find a flair fitting or flare your hardline? is this right? I thought the hardline is already flaired? why do we need to flair it more? I'm looking to do mine soon, so thank for the help guys

06-05-2008, 02:08 PM	#17
tt99ol Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: quartz hill CA Age: 34 Posts: 644 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	you re-flare it with an iso style flare it looks like a bubble so it seals against the inward face of the bmc as opposed to sealing against the cone of the insert you can probably borrow the tool from autozone __________________ Need automotive work done in the antelope valley? Ask me how i can help.

06-06-2008, 04:55 PM	#18
4bangers Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: wa Age: 22 Posts: 367 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	how do you put in the bmc? mine bmc doesn't have the rod that's sticking out from the cylinder and goes into the booster. Can I reuse the 240sx rod and how do I connect it to the booster? thanks

06-06-2008, 05:21 PM	#19
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 16,760 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	I have 2 extra stock fittings I took out of my S13 one... Haha. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

10-07-2008, 09:06 PM	#21
aguadilla Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: VA Posts: 40 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I picked up some 3/16" brake hard line approx 6inch lenght and bought a brake line flaring tool cut one end and bubble flared it. Shaped to fit and cut the factory hard line and reflared it and installed a union (not a compression fitting) works great.

10-16-2008, 01:05 PM	#23
IIIXziuR Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Left Hand Path Posts: 2,652 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	Yeah I had the same problem and I purchased an aftermarket BMC that was supposed to already have all the fittings in place. Man what a pain. I ended up just cutting the fitting out of my stock S14 BMC and tapping it into The Z middle port. I heard that if you use a bubble flair rather than the double flare it might seal (?) importnut.net I think had some good info on this. __________________ ... ... ... ... .

10-16-2008, 07:25 PM	#24
SqueekyClean BANNED Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: 818 Posts: 395 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	LOL. Like many of you guys here, I am the Z32 brake master. If you've done dozens of Z32 brake swaps, you are probably like me. I have these two extra fitting sitting in my Freezer, ready to go. Why freezer? Metal shrinks. Wink Wink. I charge all my friends PREMIUM, just for the fittings because the effort it takes to get them are worth what I charge. Installation is delicate, I made a custom rod out of a flared hardline to hit the fitting in. Then use a piece of hard line with the threading and screw it one. I mastered it. Why buy ebay shit, when OEM is best. LOL. OEM FITMENT OWNS ALL. NO MODS.

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