Matej

Put a litter of puppies in a box for people to take. The healthiest prettiest ones go to a 'good home' first, and by the end of the day the unwanted ones are left behind.

Adoption dumbed down.

TheWolf

Late term abortions are not the normal type. It's not the "whoops your girlfriend is pregnant". Goes to the doctor. Given an injection. Goes home and bleeds for 3-4 days and passes chunks of tissue out. Then crys and most are rather emotionally scarred from it. This is the rather graphic to discuss abortion and I don't want another trip to the pinked house(mods be forgiving). I feel people should be made aware of the procedure though. The essentials are. She is given a large dose Pitocin to induce labor prematurely. This will cause painfull contractions. She's given a localized pain releaver so she doesn't endure mind wrenching pain. Baby receives none of it. Since this procedure is not designed to produce life. Certain safeguards can be removed. Fetal heart rate is not monitored as it's not desired. Since normal delivery is a multi hour ordeal. This procedure is designed like the Patriots hurry up offense. It's designed to override the bodys natural hormonal system to create a 2 minute drill of labor if you will. This large dose of pitocin, (other drugs work to the same effect but this is the most comon) create literally crushing contractions. It is not uncomon to have multiple ribs of the baby broken upon completion. Soreness and brusing of the mothers diaphram are common. Once dilated enough the baby is "delivered" but no life sustaining treatment is performed. There is a good chance none is needed as pitocin and the contractions will usually cause some level of a heart attack or thorasic/cerebral damage. Babies can't sustain high heart rates for very long before cardiac failure. This also causes their o2 stats to drop and either they drop dead from a heart attack or die from suffocating. Sometimes the delivery is assisted in a piecemeal fashion if there is not enough dilation produced by the drugs. (Aprox 10% of procedures) The Salad tongs. The mother requires observation as there's a good chance she can hemorrhage substantially. There is a slight chance that she will never be able to have kids again. I have seen one conducted on video, it's something you can't mind bleach.

Many doctors will perform abortions but will not perform selective (mother's not going to die in the next 2 minutes) late term abortions. You must be a believer that life starts when a baby exits the birth canal and starts breathing on it's own. As after about 6 months. Drugs can help the lungs fully form and it's quite common to have premies live at 2lbs.

If it were anything but a baby. Say it were puppy dogs.. kittens.. baby elephants...Then the same procedure applied above to them. It would be universally condemned.

It is true poverty when a women must decide that she must kill her unborn child so she can continue to live. -Mother Theresa

I don't think anyone here is that poor in wallet, heart or spirit.

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BustedS13

i really hate to disagree with somebody who thinks i'm awesome and puts it in their signature.

so now this thread is about kittens in boxes.

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Koopa Troopa

Honestly dude I see your point however if someone wants to do it then they'll do it. At least these clinics provide a safe and clean way of doing it. It's other people's decisions, who cares? The way I see it is less traffic in the morning.

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illvialuver

It is always the religious crazies that do this kinda stuff. I find it kinda ironic that a woman kills her own son by shooting him in the back of the head at a shooting range for the belief that he is the anti Christ and then kills herself. All the while under the belief that she was following the beliefs of her religion, and than someone else kills someone at a church for their religious and moral beliefs.

People are crazy. It is sad, and I think that the woman that went to see him made there own choices and now they have one less choice, and they just killed someone.
One of the big no nos of their religion.

But he knew nut jobs were afterhim and he should have watched his back.

BoostSlideWayz

I personally dont see why its such a big deal... I mean... he basicly gets paid to kill human beings... just not when there fully formed.. I think he deserved what he had comin.

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sr20sean

people up to age 8 can have abortions or you can abort a person anytime before theyre 8? lol could be taken either way... just how the fuck does an 8 yr old get pregnant?

Matej

Abortion is older than religion.

I believe in abortion.

S14DB

Masturbation is Murder. The Sperm is alive!

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SochBAT

"You have to swallow it. It's a live damn it! Think of the lives you will save!!!"

I'm going to start using that. lol

illvialuver

The best response yet. You can think about what your religious beliefs tell you to think or do but in the end , they only matter to you. So you can not uphold other people without those beliefs to the same standards as yourself.


The same people that are anti abortion, are the same people that are against same sex marriage and are against pre marital sex, and the same people that send missionaries to other countries and bribe the less fortunate and starving with food and medicine for their allegiance to their god.

mrflip69

Try searching those pro-life sites (or even youtube) for late term abortion videos. Disturbing shit. Watched it in high school for a mock trial of roe vs. wade.

Pulling out is a myth? Had this argument with a friend. If you do it correctly, how could it NOT work??? At the very least, it's still got a better chance than just a good ol creampie with no pill/protection. It's not like everytime you ejaculate, the woman becomes pregnant. More reason to go anal? LOL

TheWolf

Actually there's only about 5 days a month that a woman can become pregnant. The rest of the time there's a solid plug that forms which blocks any sperm from traveling up. During these 5 days the PH changes to where it's not acidic to sperm. The rest of the month it rips their tails off in a matter of minutes. Other Things guys didn't know. Girl only ovulates one egg only once a month from one ovary. The other ovary fires one egg off the next month. They take turns. Unless she's on birth control then most likely they are chemically shut down and placed in a dormant phase.

The other way is just figure out when those five days are and then you can have sex whenever and not have kids. Just catch up on your socom on those 5 days.

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mrflip69

+1 for the rhythm method. (no, not that rhythm)

Planned parenthood--exactly what the doc's patients needed.

What do you do for a living Wolf? *sniffs hands* hahaha

TheWolf

Heh. Rhythm is like 1970's tech and not very effective. I build diesel engines for a living. Going to school for pre-med while working FT.

My wife who's a RN and I teach people how to find those days scientifically. It's called NFP. Specifically Marquette method. The method is just as effective as a condom and doesn't involve shutting down a body organ chemically. Cathlocs and Hippies like it. If you have any infertility issues, your doctor will probably prescribe something similar to what we do because it's more effective than any drug on the market at getting you pregnant when you want to have kids. (Screw like rabbits on those days if you want kids, play GT5 on those days if you don't) About 1 in 5 couples we see has some serious underlying issues with infertility. I have nothing against other people that use birth control but you can't shut down an organ for 10+ years and expect it to hop back online right away to pump out 1.73 Children then toss it back on ice. The sadder part is when the girls that come in, had some issue when she was 15 but her doc just put her on BC because it would "mask" the symptoms. Like throwing 50wt motor oil in to quiet a rod knock. So it's been just festering for 10-15 years. She gets married and it's like shazam. You thought you were healthy but your systems loaded with PCOS or something good luck fixing it now and having a kid. Sad in a way. Hard to talk to teens and early 20's kids about this as it's a bridge most kids don't cross till they get married and want to have a kid. There's very much a "won't happen to me" outlook.

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98s14inaz

I think it said in the bible somewhere that "it is better for your seed to land on the belly of a whore..." or something like that. Works for me lol

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HyperTek

go fire off some knuckle children lol

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