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Old 05-13-2021, 02:27 PM   #361
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He went back on the whole minimum mandatory sentencing thing though, surprising absolutely no one.
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Old 05-13-2021, 06:10 PM   #362
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I like that he undid a lot of Trump's bullshit executive orders in regards to immigration, the environment, and equality and that someone has finally taken charge of the response to Covid.
I'd like to understand how you came to that conclusion. (respectfully)

We have more "Children in Cages" with a huge boarder crisis that's being ignored. There have been no immigration or visa reform.

Environment - okay, we'll have to disagree on the policies.

Equality? Only thing I can think of was opening trans-people in the military. Trump after all is the first president to be elected that supported Gay-Marriage. He also has the best track-record for economic improvements of all minority groups.

Covid? What has Biden done? The vaccine was already well underway.

I do agree Trump's handling was appalling, but likely for different reasons. These mini-dictator fascist Governors should never in a million years been aloud to trample on people's constitutional rights. There is no clause in the Constitution that states "...unless we panic".

A big issue I would hope we all can agree on, since it hurts everyone, is the Media's refusal to play hardball with this administration. The Pipeline shutdown has been devastating and the Admin's response simply unreal. This was practically covered up for half a week by the Media.

Millions of American's unable to get gasoline because of foreign hackers and what's the admin's response? "It's a private matter and up to them if they want to pay the ransom". A ransom that they did pay to get the line running again!

The one's most impacted are also going to be the marginalized groups the DNC so regularly champions. The rich can all work remote or drive their Teslas. While the poor single minority trans-mothers who can only afford to put $10 in their tank have to drive to their minimum wage jobs or be fired.
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Old 05-14-2021, 11:30 AM   #363
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Equality? Only thing I can think of was opening trans-people in the military. Trump after all is the first president to be elected that supported Gay-Marriage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA-cSCfPrbk

May 9, 2012, Obama supports same-sex marriage.
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Old 05-14-2021, 12:14 PM   #364
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May 9, 2012, Obama supports same-sex marriage.
Exactly. Halfway into his second term.

He was originally against it.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...-gay-marriage/

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In August 2008, he told Southern California megachurch Pastor Rick Warren his definition of marriage: "I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian, it is also a sacred union. God's in the mix."
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is the Media's refusal to play hardball with this administration.
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Old 05-14-2021, 03:22 PM   #366
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Exactly. Halfway into his second term.

He was originally against it.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...-gay-marriage/
But you said Trump was the first president to be elected to be supporting gay marriage...

so what, Obama was appointed? or were you trying to say that Trump was the first president to take a position supporting gay marriage prior to his election win?

for purposes of these discussions it's helpful to be accurate. Also, 2012 was the middle of the election year, not halfway into his second term
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But you said Trump was the first president to be elected to be supporting gay marriage...

so what, Obama was appointed? or were you trying to say that Trump was the first president to take a position supporting gay marriage prior to his election win?

for purposes of these discussions it's helpful to be accurate. Also, 2012 was the middle of the election year, not halfway into his second term
However you want to spin it. Trump ran on being Pro-Gay Marriage. Obama did a hard 180 after having already been elected President. The Clintons and Biden where certainly Anti-Gay Marriage all through the 90's and early 2000's.

Here you have articles with Trump's openly prop gay stance back in 2000.

https://getoutspoken.com/fact-check/...ate-gay-rights

https://thepostmillennial.com/trump-...nt-in-history/
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However you want to spin it.
I'm not spinning anything.. you said Trump was the first elected president to be for gay marriage. Tell me I'm reading what you wrote wrong.

Again, if you are trying to say that he was for this issue before being elected, then yes you are correct. But as is the case with your argument about Nismo parts being a scam, you need to be clearer about what you post about instead of changing the argument halfway through to suit your justification.

GT-R and GTS-T tension rods are not the same part number.

First elected president for gay marrage and first president to run on a gay marriage platform are not the same.
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I'd like to understand how you came to that conclusion. (respectfully)
By looking at the numbers. The dozen or so executive orders he's signed/reversed in regards to immigration.

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Equality? Only thing I can think of was opening trans-people in the military.
I meant equity. Yes, that along with 9 other orders/reversals.

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Covid? What has Biden done? The vaccine was already well underway.
15 orders/reversals dealing with rona.

I didn't say he'd necessarily been doing a good job. I mostly just enjoy the reversals. And ending the federal use of private prisons is huge. Everything else all I see are dollar signs.

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Millions of American's unable to get gasoline because of foreign hackers and what's the admin's response? "It's a private matter and up to them if they want to pay the ransom". A ransom that they did pay to get the line running again!
Alarming that hackers can fuck with such an important part of infrastructure, but are you actually asking for the government to meddle in a private company's affairs orrrr????
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entering the US from south of the border = OK

cubans seeking asylum, floating into the US = NOT OK

at this point, anyone pro-biden is brain dead
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I do not know why the illegal immigrant is such a huge issue. The rest of the world has super tough immigration laws. Just try to go legally live in England. They literally have a job list of qualifications you must have unless you marry someone there.

The truth is we cannot take everyone who is seeking asylum no matter where they are from.

Change the rules so people who are born here are only citizens if their parents are. Create family detention centers. Hold people together until they are deported.

Punish the companies who hire illegals for those shit wages. There are ways just need leaders with the balls to do it.
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entering the US from south of the border = OK

cubans seeking asylum, floating into the US = NOT OK

at this point, anyone pro-biden is brain dead
That is because Cuban's historically have voted more conservative after gaining citizenship.
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