Nissan GT-R Owner Voids Warranty, Grenades $36K Engine [Blown Engines] - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

ZilviaBot · 02-02-2010, 08:50 AM

02-01-2010 10:00 AM

A member over at NAGTROC made the mistake of modifying his Nissan GT-R engine while it was still under its temperamental warranty. So, when he then broke the cylinder block, he was completely screwed. How it happened, plus pictures, below.

If you'll remember, Nissan's already a bit finicky when it comes to the warranty on the GT-R. But once you start modifying the car in any way â€” that already-less-than-stellar warranty becomes about as useful as poison ivy when you're looking to wipe your ass.

You can read his description of what happened below and share your theory. For what's it's worth, he thinks he ran the wrong software for the fuel he was putting in his car in Lebanon:

after less than a month driving my GTR after my perfect gearbox rebuilt, i was cruising today on 3rd gear, then i decided to shift to second gear to overtake a car, i down shifted , car accelerates like a missile, then 1 k before cutoff i hear a uninterupted sound like trrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr coming from the engine, and some smoke going out of the engine, i look at the oil pressure and oil light in dash they are ok , i look in my rear view mirror and i see oil , i shift to neutral shut down the car and go to the side of the road to stop. i get down of the car open the engine from where smoke is going out, and i see all the oil under the car... at that point i was CONVINCED its an oil pipe that is broken, i called road service to get towed, go to the workshop, and... guess what............ broken cylinder block...... something seems to have broken on the crank, or piston or pushrods and made a big mess..the block is broken on both sides, i guess the broken part blew off left then right.. i was running on AP stage 2 97 version 2.0

the bad news:
- i got AP , Y pipe and 5zigen, car is already blacklisted and out of warranty :( :(
-new engine is 55,000 us$$$$!!!!!!!!!!!
-i'm really really pissed
-i hate nissan management!
-we don't know yet the extent of the damage inside the engine

the only good news:
unlike the GR6, nissan sells engine parts and not only complete assembly.. otherwise i would put fuel on the car and burn it in front of the nissan showroom

here is some pics, can anyone share any experience with the engine? any thoughts what could have happened? is there is any other cases with broken cylinders blocks???? i cant believe that the AP software upgrade could have blow off the engine.. these engines should support more than 70hp of upgraded power IMO

im in love with the gtr but i HATE nissan

For the record â€” the owner checked with a dealership and a new engine costs closer to $36K.

the fuel we have in lebanon is 98 octane RON while in the US its 93 AKI and not RON. when i downloaded the new AP software , i had to choose the country, and since my GTR is a US spec car, i choosed USJDM software and i ran on stage 2 97 octane software. the 97 octane of the US maps is AKI while i was running 98 octane RON. and 98 octane RON appears to be less than 93 octane AKI... timing settings should have been different... i should have stayed on version 1.08B

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*slider2828* · 02-02-2010, 10:12 AM

Its cause the owner is stupid that is why the warranty is void. No way in hell a car company will cover a modified car.... stupid.

ronmcdon · 02-02-2010, 10:50 AM

Well some warranties are more lax than others.
I've been lucky with Mitsu & Subaru.
However, messing with engine management when you don't know what you're doing is unforgivable.

36k for the block, or 55k for the entire engine is pretty pricey though.
This is a car I'd be afraid to own.
You damage anything, and you know the parts are going to hurt your wallet bad.

ESmorz · 02-02-2010, 11:23 AM

Time for a built SR.

ultimateforce · 02-02-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ESmorz

Time for a built SR.

He's going to need the power of a KA-T to be sure.

smoothcoupe · 02-03-2010, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ESmorz

Time for a built SR.

SR in GTR= worst idea ever. RB26DETT Z2 spec motor on that trans would kick ass!!

spooled240 · 02-02-2010, 11:52 AM

JB weld, it works wonders lol

epics13 · 02-02-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by spooled240

JB weld, it works wonders lol

lol i got some lmk

homeslicej2 · 02-02-2010, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spooled240

JB weld, it works wonders lol

LOL
Owner says, "hey nissan, I modded my new car and ran incorrect fuel/fuel maps, it went boom. I can haz nother? no, well you guys suck"

I LUV MY S13 · 02-02-2010, 12:03 PM

hell yah KA-T

drift freaq · 02-02-2010, 12:42 PM

stupid ass owner.

GTR's are screaming fast out of the Box. Crackup about consumers is they modify an engine and when it blows up they cry foul. Fuck if it was a race car they would be like ah shit we made a mistake and it grenaded. Ok build another engine.

Fucking stupid ass consumers play with shit and then expect it to be covered. Lame ass owner in my opinion.

Oh and any crying about the cost of that engine? Its a fucking hand built engine to extreme specs. Oh and dipshit was crying about the fact that he leaned the shit out of it and it went boom. LOL of course it can handle high horsepower if you don't lean the daylights out of it with the wrong fuel curves. LOL

tricky_ab · 02-04-2010, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

stupid ass owner.

GTR's are screaming fast out of the Box. Crackup about consumers is they modify an engine and when it blows up they cry foul. Fuck if it was a race car they would be like ah shit we made a mistake and it grenaded. Ok build another engine.

Fucking stupid ass consumers play with shit and then expect it to be covered. Lame ass owner in my opinion.

Oh and any crying about the cost of that engine? Its a fucking hand built engine to extreme specs. Oh and dipshit was crying about the fact that he leaned the shit out of it and it went boom. LOL of course it can handle high horsepower if you don't lean the daylights out of it with the wrong fuel curves. LOL

Agreed, he modded the car so he should have known what he was getting himself into if something were to go wrong!

And the price of the engine that he was going on about is justified if you've seen the work that goes into it...What a bloody tosser this guy is...

usdm180sx · 02-05-2010, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

stupid ass owner.

GTR's are screaming fast out of the Box. Crackup about consumers is they modify an engine and when it blows up they cry foul. Fuck if it was a race car they would be like ah shit we made a mistake and it grenaded. Ok build another engine.

Fucking stupid ass consumers play with shit and then expect it to be covered. Lame ass owner in my opinion.

Oh and any crying about the cost of that engine? Its a fucking hand built engine to extreme specs. Oh and dipshit was crying about the fact that he leaned the shit out of it and it went boom. LOL of course it can handle high horsepower if you don't lean the daylights out of it with the wrong fuel curves. LOL

Seriously. These idiots spend $100k plus on shit they have no idea about just to shave .0001 seconds off lap times and they probably can't even drive worth shit.

The cost of entry is the only discount for the GT-R. Maintenance costs are similar to owning a lambo porsche or ferrari.

I thought this was interesting. The GT-R engine costs $55k and the tranny costs $20k. The car lists for $85k. So would the car without a tranny and motor be only worth $10k? haha

*slider2828* · 02-02-2010, 12:45 PM

Maybe he should take himself out to the nissan dealer and torch himself in front of them.....

AWDJosh · 02-02-2010, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by slider2828

Maybe he should take himself out to the nissan dealer and torch himself in front of them.....

LOL!

it was owners fault for running the wrong fuel map...

NismoDriverS13 · 02-02-2010, 01:13 PM

^haha agreed!

that car is a beast already and i drove one......till this day i still cant believe how awesome the car is out of the box!!!

second of all if u got money to buy a GTR and then mod it, then u should have money to fix it........Idiot!

IHasLongTorso · 02-02-2010, 04:54 PM

fucking ass hat. Id honestly put an rb in it if hes not putting a new motor in.

20 bucks say this fucktard puts a new motor in it and does the same thing. lol

nismo tuned s14 · 02-02-2010, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by IHasLongTorso

fucking ass hat. Id honestly put an rb in it if hes not putting a new motor in.

An RB26DETT would be bad ass in the R35 IMO. Highly modded, of course.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 02-03-2010, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by nismo tuned s14

An RB26DETT would be bad ass in the R35 IMO. Highly modded, of course.

No, I'm a believer of the VQ. I've seen a stock GTR walk on a 450whp lighter R32 GTR. The only advantage an RB26 have over the VQ is that alot of tuners know the ins/outs of an RB26, there aint a whole lot of surprises left with the RB when you tune/mod it.

nismo tuned s14 · 02-03-2010, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

No, I'm a believer of the VQ. I've seen a stock GTR walk on a 450whp lighter R32 GTR. The only advantage an RB26 have over the VQ is that alot of tuners know the ins/outs of an RB26, there aint a whole lot of surprises left with the RB when you tune/mod it.

Yeah, a VQ would also be a great choice. I've seen a few VQs lately with crazy amounts of power.

ShiftedFrame · 02-18-2010, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

No, I'm a believer of the VQ. I've seen a stock GTR walk on a 450whp lighter R32 GTR. The only advantage an RB26 have over the VQ is that alot of tuners know the ins/outs of an RB26, there aint a whole lot of surprises left with the RB when you tune/mod it.

You realize gearing plays a key role right? The GTR is only quick til about 100 then it just fails....

*slider2828* · 02-18-2010, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShiftedFrame

You realize gearing plays a key role right? The GTR is only quick til about 100 then it just fails....

So true... their short gearing 1-4 maybe 5th.... but yeah I agree with you there.... Thing is heavy as well...

Look at Off Topic thread I made. HV103 tuned R35 vs Mine's R34 COME ON.....

E-Warrior · 06-14-2010, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

No, I'm a believer of the VQ. I've seen a stock GTR walk on a 450whp lighter R32 GTR. The only advantage an RB26 have over the VQ is that alot of tuners know the ins/outs of an RB26, there aint a whole lot of surprises left with the RB when you tune/mod it.

Dig or roll?? From a dig I can believe that hands down, the GTRs launch is completely unreal. From a roll (depending on speed), no i dont believe that. The R32 isnt just lighter, its MUCH lighter. almost, if not more than, 1000lbs lighter. 450whp is much more than what a stock R35 puts down.

Weight is a very very large factor with speed. Just as the GTRs technology is a very very large factor with its handling and launching ability.

[w]hite[r]abbit[x] · 02-02-2010, 05:27 PM

He really didn't need an AP. All you need straight from the factory is some r. comp tires and you should be set for the track.

ATLspeed · 02-02-2010, 08:43 PM

He should run a rb26 and then slap a sr and a ka as turbos on it lol, it'll have like 53643hp and chuck norris for tq lol

RB24_S14 · 02-02-2010, 09:07 PM

Yeah right he needs a built RB30DETT. How the Australians do it =] With 1000 Elephant power.

marv670 · 02-03-2010, 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RB24_S14

Yeah right he needs a built RB30DETT. How the Australians do it =] With 1000 Elephant power.

elephant power FTW! new sig lol

nickdestcroix · 04-19-2010, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RB24_S14

Yeah right he needs a built RB30DETT. How the Australians do it =] With 1000 Elephant power.

Agree'd if hes fucked the engine and decides to do something different rock a rb30dett or rb26dett highley modified ...
its a shame about him overlooking specific details, if you have the money to buy a new gtr spend a couple of those bucks on a professional to overlook your tune

blu808 · 02-03-2010, 03:15 AM

He needs to buy a ford and stay away from Nissans

RB24_S14 · 02-03-2010, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blu808

He needs to buy a ford and stay away from Nissans

What are you doing here then? lol woahh. Ford ?:ghey:.

02-02-2010, 08:50 AM	#1
ZilviaBot Zilvia.net Bot Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 199 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Nissan GT-R Owner Voids Warranty, Grenades $36K Engine [Blown Engines] 02-01-2010 10:00 AM A member over at NAGTROC made the mistake of modifying his Nissan GT-R engine while it was still under its temperamental warranty. So, when he then broke the cylinder block, he was completely screwed. How it happened, plus pictures, below. If you'll remember, Nissan's already a bit finicky when it comes to the warranty on the GT-R. But once you start modifying the car in any way â€” that already-less-than-stellar warranty becomes about as useful as poison ivy when you're looking to wipe your ass. You can read his description of what happened below and share your theory. For what's it's worth, he thinks he ran the wrong software for the fuel he was putting in his car in Lebanon: after less than a month driving my GTR after my perfect gearbox rebuilt, i was cruising today on 3rd gear, then i decided to shift to second gear to overtake a car, i down shifted , car accelerates like a missile, then 1 k before cutoff i hear a uninterupted sound like trrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr coming from the engine, and some smoke going out of the engine, i look at the oil pressure and oil light in dash they are ok , i look in my rear view mirror and i see oil , i shift to neutral shut down the car and go to the side of the road to stop. i get down of the car open the engine from where smoke is going out, and i see all the oil under the car... at that point i was CONVINCED its an oil pipe that is broken, i called road service to get towed, go to the workshop, and... guess what............ broken cylinder block...... something seems to have broken on the crank, or piston or pushrods and made a big mess..the block is broken on both sides, i guess the broken part blew off left then right.. i was running on AP stage 2 97 version 2.0 the bad news: - i got AP , Y pipe and 5zigen, car is already blacklisted and out of warranty :( :( -new engine is 55,000 us$$$$!!!!!!!!!!! -i'm really really pissed -i hate nissan management! -we don't know yet the extent of the damage inside the engine the only good news: unlike the GR6, nissan sells engine parts and not only complete assembly.. otherwise i would put fuel on the car and burn it in front of the nissan showroom here is some pics, can anyone share any experience with the engine? any thoughts what could have happened? is there is any other cases with broken cylinders blocks???? i cant believe that the AP software upgrade could have blow off the engine.. these engines should support more than 70hp of upgraded power IMO im in love with the gtr but i HATE nissan For the record â€” the owner checked with a dealership and a new engine costs closer to $36K. the fuel we have in lebanon is 98 octane RON while in the US its 93 AKI and not RON. when i downloaded the new AP software , i had to choose the country, and since my GTR is a US spec car, i choosed USJDM software and i ran on stage 2 97 octane software. the 97 octane of the US maps is AKI while i was running 98 octane RON. and 98 octane RON appears to be less than 93 octane AKI... timing settings should have been different... i should have stayed on version 1.08B [NAGTROC] More...

02-02-2010, 10:12 AM	#2
slider2828 Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,824 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Its cause the owner is stupid that is why the warranty is void. No way in hell a car company will cover a modified car.... stupid. __________________ Turn and Burn!

02-02-2010, 11:23 AM	#4
ESmorz Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: It Looks Like A Dong Posts: 6,902 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Time for a built SR. __________________

02-02-2010, 12:03 PM	#10
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02-02-2010, 12:42 PM	#11
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,558 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	stupid ass owner. GTR's are screaming fast out of the Box. Crackup about consumers is they modify an engine and when it blows up they cry foul. Fuck if it was a race car they would be like ah shit we made a mistake and it grenaded. Ok build another engine. Fucking stupid ass consumers play with shit and then expect it to be covered. Lame ass owner in my opinion. Oh and any crying about the cost of that engine? Its a fucking hand built engine to extreme specs. Oh and dipshit was crying about the fact that he leaned the shit out of it and it went boom. LOL of course it can handle high horsepower if you don't lean the daylights out of it with the wrong fuel curves. LOL __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

02-02-2010, 10:50 AM	#3
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Well some warranties are more lax than others. I've been lucky with Mitsu & Subaru. However, messing with engine management when you don't know what you're doing is unforgivable. 36k for the block, or 55k for the entire engine is pretty pricey though. This is a car I'd be afraid to own. You damage anything, and you know the parts are going to hurt your wallet bad.

02-02-2010, 11:52 AM	#7
spooled240 Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 4,142 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	JB weld, it works wonders lol

02-02-2010, 12:45 PM	#14
slider2828 Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,824 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Maybe he should take himself out to the nissan dealer and torch himself in front of them..... __________________ Turn and Burn!

02-02-2010, 01:13 PM	#16
NismoDriverS13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: So-Cal Age: 35 Posts: 506 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^haha agreed! that car is a beast already and i drove one......till this day i still cant believe how awesome the car is out of the box!!! second of all if u got money to buy a GTR and then mod it, then u should have money to fix it........Idiot!

02-02-2010, 04:54 PM	#17
IHasLongTorso Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Irvine Age: 37 Posts: 482 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	fucking ass hat. Id honestly put an rb in it if hes not putting a new motor in. 20 bucks say this fucktard puts a new motor in it and does the same thing. lol

02-02-2010, 05:27 PM	#24
[w]hite[r]abbit[x] Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Des Moines Age: 35 Posts: 297 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	He really didn't need an AP. All you need straight from the factory is some r. comp tires and you should be set for the track.

02-02-2010, 08:43 PM	#25
ATLspeed Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Eden, MD, USA Age: 34 Posts: 921 Trader Rating: (14) Rides Gallery: ATLspeed Feedback Score: 14 reviews	He should run a rb26 and then slap a sr and a ka as turbos on it lol, it'll have like 53643hp and chuck norris for tq lol __________________ 93 s13 Vert - 2jz/cd009 -- parted/sold 95 Supra Turbo

02-02-2010, 09:07 PM	#26
RB24_S14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Hagerstown Age: 29 Posts: 477 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Yeah right he needs a built RB30DETT. How the Australians do it =] With 1000 Elephant power. __________________ 460whp 350Z

02-03-2010, 03:15 AM	#29
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 38 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	He needs to buy a ford and stay away from Nissans __________________

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