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Clowny · 07-03-2008, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blu808

I was gonna say is that a pulse jet engine. but it doesn't have a inlet. Does it just suck in air and fuel through where the gas line is between sparks?

Thrust?

that is exactly how it works. thrust should be around 2 to 2.5 lbs.

blu808 · 07-03-2008, 12:14 AM

thanks for the reply.

I know hitler used ramjets on his v2 rockets in ww2. They said that even though they were not accurate, just the sound would scare people out of the cities.

Can you tell me this. How fuel efficient is this engine? Can you make enough thrust (besides solid fuel) to lift a plane, its engine, and fuel?

Clowny · 07-03-2008, 12:44 AM

actually, what was in the v1s were valved pulsejets. they were nicknamed buzzbombs because they make this very annoying sound when running. the v2s were just liquid fueled rockets. here is a youtube video of an rc plane runnin 2 suck pulsejets to give you an idea of the proper sound. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e-Ar7gb4tQ[/ame]
and yes, if made to the proper size, it will prouce enough thrust to get itself, its fuel, and a plane off the ground. as for efficiency, mine is far from it. if i spent a whole lot of time crunching numbers in some very complex equations, i could find the proper formulas to fine tune my pulsejet and make it more powerful and more efficient. as for pulsejets in general, they are kinda like rotary engines. Not the most efficient, they can make a good amount of power under te right conditions, and someone had to be thinkin WAY outside te box to come up with them.

remember the show junkyard wars? check this out...
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxrLwDz9cCM[/ame]

and for anyone wanting to experiment with pulsejets, here is an easy way to try it out...
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AePLpM5SnqE&feature=related[/ame]

neukin · 07-03-2008, 10:18 AM

Damn Bill (driftstyre) those front lateral and tension arms you built are SICK! Nice work!

Here is the louver shroud unit installed in the hood i fabbed for our kits. This and the hood pins come with the vmount kit. Going to test it a bit and add some more louvers in the middle if need be like we did on the RX7 FC kit but im learning here making sure air is being sucked out.

*TougeLabs* · 07-03-2008, 07:40 PM

Clowny awesome post man deff not a good idea to post right b4 4th of july lol beer fireworks and now pulse jet nice lol Ill post some video.

V mount is dope If i could fit a large enough core i would be really interested but the rear mounted radiator is already in the works....Thanks to Bill i have been reading about NACA ducts for the past 2 days.

Plan:

Naca ducts dual one right next to the other, And beacuase i still like to be pretty and functional a little carbon duct over them. "NACA ducts kinda go the wrong way for the shape of the rear qtr windows...Plus side is that ill be making 2 sets one for my S14 and one set for Bills Incredible S13.

Have a good holiday guys and be safe.

neukin · 07-04-2008, 04:57 PM

The Garrett core is support to be one of the most efficient out there. That unit there supports about 700hp or is said to keep temps cooler in that range max. I like the Apexi core but cost is a issue, would like to test that against a Garrett. The larger your intercooler the more lag or responsiveness so this was prime in our opinion. What size core do you plan to run?

*TougeLabs* · 07-04-2008, 09:30 PM

In all honesty I think i was not focused when i made my prior post... "DRUGS DUE TO BROKEN FOOT" Anyway in all honesty I guess i could do a V mount its just i would need a really nice setup duct wise to get the air in and out.

Your kits look bad ass though nice work man.

blu808 · 07-14-2008, 12:18 AM

Sorry guys been really buisy. I have the following to post up in the next few days.

Sound deadening removal step by step.

Chassis seam welding step by step.

Gangster ass roll cage building step by step.

Our new car build step by step RHD TURBO LS1 FD

Oh yea. and a complete Rb25det s13 build, and a e36 euro itb powered e30 m3 cage build.

Who wants to see it?

mugendork · 07-14-2008, 12:37 AM

I want to see it!

turtle m3th · 07-14-2008, 02:00 AM

Fuckin-A!!! Can't wait to see the posts as well!

tt99ol · 07-14-2008, 03:16 AM

yeah bring on the write ups
especially the seam welding one
so i can seam weld my chassis
it wants me to

wannabe_drifter · 07-14-2008, 02:13 PM

I do !

thats gonna be some interesting stuff !

wwiaftm · 07-15-2008, 11:29 AM

I can't wait to see it!

luisgonz · 07-16-2008, 12:26 AM

Been on this lately.

dirtdiggler666 · 07-16-2008, 10:15 PM

ls1 coil mount i made for my ka woooo hooooooo it still took a while its crazy when your making something from scratch it takes forever

luisgonz · 07-16-2008, 10:30 PM

Got more......

lazierhobo · 07-18-2008, 03:56 PM

sweet v-mount setup!

im curious to see what kind of gains you see from that setup...please post follow-up results

*burnsauto* · 07-18-2008, 04:02 PM

you've got a lot of balls to do that to a newer car. I dont mind cutting up old cars...but if its been made within the past few years...its hard for me to do it. lol

Om1kron · 07-18-2008, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luisgonz

Got more......
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I'm curious to see what kind of replacement hood will go on the car now that it's running a v-mount. Also what kind of protection does the radiator have now that it's at that angle?

luisgonz · 07-20-2008, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazierhobo

sweet v-mount setup!

im curious to see what kind of gains you see from that setup...please post follow-up results

I will post a dyno graph of the gains and power added for this setup, Its going to be a new turbo, But will post results.

Quote:

Originally Posted by burnsauto

you've got a lot of balls to do that to a newer car. I dont mind cutting up old cars...but if its been made within the past few years...its hard for me to do it. lol

I have never looked at it that way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Om1kron

I'm curious to see what kind of replacement hood will go on the car now that it's running a v-mount. Also what kind of protection does the radiator have now that it's at that angle?

I will post pics of the shield I made for it later.

EJ253 · 07-23-2008, 03:14 AM

i thought i'd try to make a vmount.
it took me about a week, never welded aluminum before! lol
i cut about two inches out of my front mount's core and used that.

its still got a few kinks that i need to work out.
i'll be re-routing the water lines to the top side of the radiator.
as well as re-route the upper water lines.

i put a filler neck on the upper water neck coming off the head, but ill probably put a bubbler tank in there also

also, im using .032 T6061 sheet aluminum for the ducting. i need a rivet gun lolz

im building a uras look-a-like hood vent too

JohnJunYi · 07-23-2008, 03:36 AM

just looked at the last 6 pages never seen this thread you guys make me want to go to school for welding.

Jakob · 07-23-2008, 09:19 AM

why do you guys use an mr2 powersteering pump?

luisgonz · 07-23-2008, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by da_russian_one

why do you guys use an mr2 powersteering pump?

MR2 Powersteering Pump? Hmm I dont under stand what your asking.

Om1kron · 07-23-2008, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luisgonz

MR2 Powersteering Pump? Hmm I dont under stand what your asking.

LOL that was out of left field for sure...

do you have any pictures of your v-mount set up without your aero on the s14 luis. I would be curious to see the layout, I don't want to go through the trouble of replacing the radiator support and bash bar on this car if I am going to have to remove most of that stuff anyway.

luisgonz · 07-23-2008, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Om1kron

LOL that was out of left field for sure...

do you have any pictures of your v-mount set up without your aero on the s14 luis. I would be curious to see the layout, I don't want to go through the trouble of replacing the radiator support and bash bar on this car if I am going to have to remove most of that stuff anyway.

You are in luck, I'm going to start on my body work today for the Aug 16 show. So I will post pics. Iam not saying its a e-z straight forward project. But I think its the best looking yet.LOL J/k all

Om1kron · 07-23-2008, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luisgonz

You are in luck, I'm going to start on my body work today for the Aug 16 show. So I will post pics. Iam not saying its a e-z straight forward project. But I think its the best looking yet.LOL J/k all

Sweet deal, i'll be gathering all of the materials to swap the roof on the car correctly as of next month, and probably plug up my antenna while i'm at it.

(here is an example of doing a roof skin swap on a s14)

http://www.northwestnissans.com/boar...ad.php?t=78303

*kingkilburn* · 07-23-2008, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by da_russian_one

why do you guys use an mr2 powersteering pump?

It is electric so you can mount it any where you want and free up space for more accessories or just more clearance.

Om1kron · 07-23-2008, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

It is electric so you can mount it any where you want and free up space for more accessories or just more clearance.

I see, it just seems the original poster left out the "n't" on "do" so that's what was confusing.

alexander500 · 07-23-2008, 05:13 PM

This is a cage I am working on putting in a Neon(I would like to make it clear this is not my car):

07-03-2008, 12:14 AM	#752
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 38 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	thanks for the reply. I know hitler used ramjets on his v2 rockets in ww2. They said that even though they were not accurate, just the sound would scare people out of the cities. Can you tell me this. How fuel efficient is this engine? Can you make enough thrust (besides solid fuel) to lift a plane, its engine, and fuel? __________________

07-03-2008, 10:18 AM	#754
neukin Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fort Wayne IN Posts: 174 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Damn Bill (driftstyre) those front lateral and tension arms you built are SICK! Nice work! Here is the louver shroud unit installed in the hood i fabbed for our kits. This and the hood pins come with the vmount kit. Going to test it a bit and add some more louvers in the middle if need be like we did on the RX7 FC kit but im learning here making sure air is being sucked out. __________________ Neukin Motor Development llc 399 River Bend CT Fort Wayne IN 46803 -->Neukin Store<-- -->DRIFT Clutch Store<--

07-04-2008, 04:57 PM	#756
neukin Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fort Wayne IN Posts: 174 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	The Garrett core is support to be one of the most efficient out there. That unit there supports about 700hp or is said to keep temps cooler in that range max. I like the Apexi core but cost is a issue, would like to test that against a Garrett. The larger your intercooler the more lag or responsiveness so this was prime in our opinion. What size core do you plan to run? __________________ Neukin Motor Development llc 399 River Bend CT Fort Wayne IN 46803 -->Neukin Store<-- -->DRIFT Clutch Store<--

07-14-2008, 12:18 AM	#758
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 38 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Sorry guys been really buisy. I have the following to post up in the next few days. Sound deadening removal step by step. Chassis seam welding step by step. Gangster ass roll cage building step by step. Our new car build step by step RHD TURBO LS1 FD Oh yea. and a complete Rb25det s13 build, and a e36 euro itb powered e30 m3 cage build. Who wants to see it? __________________

07-14-2008, 02:00 AM	#760
turtle m3th Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Age: 34 Posts: 1,608 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	Fuckin-A!!! Can't wait to see the posts as well! __________________ "cigarettes killed my father, and raped my mother!"

07-03-2008, 12:44 AM	#753
Clowny Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: STL Age: 36 Posts: 56 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	actually, what was in the v1s were valved pulsejets. they were nicknamed buzzbombs because they make this very annoying sound when running. the v2s were just liquid fueled rockets. here is a youtube video of an rc plane runnin 2 suck pulsejets to give you an idea of the proper sound. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e-Ar7gb4tQ[/ame] and yes, if made to the proper size, it will prouce enough thrust to get itself, its fuel, and a plane off the ground. as for efficiency, mine is far from it. if i spent a whole lot of time crunching numbers in some very complex equations, i could find the proper formulas to fine tune my pulsejet and make it more powerful and more efficient. as for pulsejets in general, they are kinda like rotary engines. Not the most efficient, they can make a good amount of power under te right conditions, and someone had to be thinkin WAY outside te box to come up with them. remember the show junkyard wars? check this out... [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxrLwDz9cCM[/ame] and for anyone wanting to experiment with pulsejets, here is an easy way to try it out... [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AePLpM5SnqE&feature=related[/ame]

07-03-2008, 07:40 PM	#755
TougeLabs Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York Age: 36 Posts: 1,570 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Clowny awesome post man deff not a good idea to post right b4 4th of july lol beer fireworks and now pulse jet nice lol Ill post some video. V mount is dope If i could fit a large enough core i would be really interested but the rear mounted radiator is already in the works....Thanks to Bill i have been reading about NACA ducts for the past 2 days. Plan: Naca ducts dual one right next to the other, And beacuase i still like to be pretty and functional a little carbon duct over them. "NACA ducts kinda go the wrong way for the shape of the rear qtr windows...Plus side is that ill be making 2 sets one for my S14 and one set for Bills Incredible S13. Have a good holiday guys and be safe.

07-04-2008, 09:30 PM	#757
TougeLabs Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York Age: 36 Posts: 1,570 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	In all honesty I think i was not focused when i made my prior post... "DRUGS DUE TO BROKEN FOOT" Anyway in all honesty I guess i could do a V mount its just i would need a really nice setup duct wise to get the air in and out. Your kits look bad ass though nice work man.

07-14-2008, 12:37 AM	#759
mugendork Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vista CA Age: 35 Posts: 339 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	I want to see it!

07-14-2008, 03:16 AM	#761
tt99ol Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: quartz hill CA Age: 34 Posts: 644 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	yeah bring on the write ups especially the seam welding one so i can seam weld my chassis it wants me to __________________ Need automotive work done in the antelope valley? Ask me how i can help.

07-14-2008, 02:13 PM	#762
wannabe_drifter Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Québec, Canada Age: 37 Posts: 245 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I do ! thats gonna be some interesting stuff ! __________________

07-15-2008, 11:29 AM	#763
wwiaftm Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 4 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I can't wait to see it!

07-16-2008, 12:26 AM	#764
luisgonz BANNED Join Date: May 2004 Location: los angeles Age: 38 Posts: 2,761 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Been on this lately.

07-16-2008, 10:15 PM	#765
dirtdiggler666 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: p-dale Age: 41 Posts: 2,113 Trader Rating: (26) Feedback Score: 26 reviews	ls1 coil mount i made for my ka woooo hooooooo it still took a while its crazy when your making something from scratch it takes forever

07-16-2008, 10:30 PM	#766
luisgonz BANNED Join Date: May 2004 Location: los angeles Age: 38 Posts: 2,761 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Got more......

07-18-2008, 03:56 PM	#767
lazierhobo Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: upstate NY Posts: 228 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sweet v-mount setup! im curious to see what kind of gains you see from that setup...please post follow-up results

07-18-2008, 04:02 PM	#768
burnsauto Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 717, PA Age: 35 Posts: 3,153 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: burnsauto Feedback Score: 5 reviews	you've got a lot of balls to do that to a newer car. I dont mind cutting up old cars...but if its been made within the past few years...its hard for me to do it. lol __________________

07-23-2008, 03:14 AM	#771
EJ253 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Salt Lake City Age: 32 Posts: 1,154 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: EJ253 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i thought i'd try to make a vmount. it took me about a week, never welded aluminum before! lol i cut about two inches out of my front mount's core and used that. its still got a few kinks that i need to work out. i'll be re-routing the water lines to the top side of the radiator. as well as re-route the upper water lines. i put a filler neck on the upper water neck coming off the head, but ill probably put a bubbler tank in there also also, im using .032 T6061 sheet aluminum for the ducting. i need a rivet gun lolz im building a uras look-a-like hood vent too __________________ The gap between MORE and ENOUGH never closes. DriftUtah \| UtahNissans \| MySpace \| I <3 Drifting. Keep it Real. Secret Society

07-23-2008, 03:36 AM	#772
JohnJunYi Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 126 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just looked at the last 6 pages never seen this thread you guys make me want to go to school for welding.

07-23-2008, 09:19 AM	#773
Jakob Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2006 Location: deutschland Age: 32 Posts: 483 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	why do you guys use an mr2 powersteering pump?

07-23-2008, 05:13 PM	#780
alexander500 Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 299 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	This is a cage I am working on putting in a Neon(I would like to make it clear this is not my car):

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