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Post California to reduce carbon emissions by... banning black cars?!

03-25-2009 01:58 PM

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In a move that will likely get California's consumers in a huff, impending legislation may soon restrict the paint color options for Golden State residents looking for their next new vehicle. The specific colors that are currently on the chopping block are all dark hues, with the worst offender seemingly the most innocuous color you could think of: Black. What could California possibly have against these colors, you ask? Apparently, the California Air Resources Board figures that the climate control systems of dark colored cars need to work harder than their lighter siblings - especially after sitting in the sun for a few hours. Anyone living in a hot, sunny climate will tell you that this assumption is accurate, of course. In fact, legislation already exists for buildings that has proven successful at reducing the energy consumption of skyscrapers.

So, what's the crux of the problem... can't paint suppliers just come up with new, less heat-absorbent dark paints? According to Ward's, suppliers have reportedly been testing their pigments and processes to see if it's possible to meet CARB's proposed mandate of 20% solar reflectivity by 2016 with a phase-in period starting in 2012, and things aren't looking good. Apparently, when the proper pigments and chemicals are added to black paint, the resulting color is currently being referred to as "mud-puddle brown." That doesn't sound very attractive, now does it? Windshields, backlights and sunroofs are also slated to get reflective coatings starting in 2012.

When we first heard of this issue, an internal debate immediately began as to whether this might be an elaborate early April Fool's joke, but it isn't. Read through CARB's complete Cool Cars Standards and Test Procedures here (PDF link) for more. Thanks for the tip, Joaquin!

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but it is kinda true that black color car absorb more heat and so on
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aww damn better not if not they pay to aint my car and i want only lead paint lol
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That's why everyone should drive a car the same color. Make them all Pink.
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no it will pass...

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texas here i come!

lol

seriously though, its just like fucking legislators to come up with stupid shit.. ooohh black cars are a problem... FUCK NO IT ISN'T! its the fact that automotive companies can't come up with more efficient motors because the oil cartels have them in their pockets! FUCK THAT! How about legislators pass laws that help people and not do stupid shit! pretty soon they will make it against the law to be a home owner because you might fall into predatory lending and be at fault with your loan, and cause another economic fall! Fuck you might as well make it a law so all cars from now on have to get 100mpg, run cleaner than boiling water, must be a very light pastel color, and must be able to fit 5 people so you can car pool even though you will always be driving by your self to work.....
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seriously though, its just like fucking legislators to come up with stupid shit.. ooohh black cars are a problem... FUCK NO IT ISN'T! its the fact that automotive companies can't come up with more efficient motors because the oil cartels have them in their pockets! FUCK THAT! How about legislators pass laws that help people and not do stupid shit! pretty soon they will make it against the law to be a home owner because you might fall into predatory lending and be at fault with your loan, and cause another economic fall! Fuck you might as well make it a law so all cars from now on have to get 100mpg, run cleaner than boiling water, must be a very light pastel color, and must be able to fit 5 people so you can car pool even though you will always be driving by your self to work.....
Go IB Go. LOL but yeah I could not agree with you more.

I flamed Matej last night, for bringing this up in a thread, before I saw what was written above.

Sorry Matej. Its like the boy who cried wolf, you have cried wolf so many times, its just a for granted you're spouting bullshit.

But wait it is bullshit, because its one of those proposals that will never pass. Though the media wants to have a field day with it. Which is actually a good thing because that will guarantee it will not pass.

Oh and people like Matej will take it to the cleaners. So he can spout his anti American bullshit as well. LOL
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Go IB Go. LOL but yeah I could not agree with you more.

I flamed Matej last night, for bringing this up in a thread, before I saw what was written above.

Sorry Matej. Its like the boy who cried wolf, you have cried wolf so many times, its just a for granted you're spouting bullshit.

But wait it is bullshit, because its one of those proposals that will never pass. Though the media wants to have a field day with it. Which is actually a good thing because that will guarantee it will not pass.

Oh and people like Matej will take it to the cleaners. So he can spout his anti American bullshit as well. LOL
On the contrary, I hope this will pass, and I thank America and mainly California for taking up the reins and fighting the good fight. Take that, global warming!
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no it will pass...

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lol

seriously though, its just like fucking legislators to come up with stupid shit.. ooohh black cars are a problem... FUCK NO IT ISN'T! its the fact that automotive companies can't come up with more efficient motors because the oil cartels have them in their pockets! FUCK THAT! How about legislators pass laws that help people and not do stupid shit! pretty soon they will make it against the law to be a home owner because you might fall into predatory lending and be at fault with your loan, and cause another economic fall! Fuck you might as well make it a law so all cars from now on have to get 100mpg, run cleaner than boiling water, must be a very light pastel color, and must be able to fit 5 people so you can car pool even though you will always be driving by your self to work.....
I agree with your rant.

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you have got to be kidding!!!! I dreamed of having black (or close to it painted) car for so long and i finally have it, and now its all going to go to waste. I hate my life. lol
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What the flying fuck!! I love Cali but damn they do some strange shit over there. Opressin' my people and their black cars..
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This is total Bullshit, they keep blaming cars for our air pollution but fail to put blame on all the chemical companies in this state who release far more green house gasses, and the jet airplanes that fly in and out of our cities, and to take it a step further if you look at china, most of their smog travels over the ocean to the golden state.
Its not like they are keeping developers from cutting down all our trees to build new realestate, plant more damn trees
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sure blame china, but they are only part of the problem

what about the rain forests in brazil? natural life like trees, and plants remove Co and Co2 from our atmosphere naturally. I think the real answer isn't taxation, but plant some mother fucking trees and gardens.
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what about the rain forests in brazil? natural life like trees, and plants remove Co and Co2 from our atmosphere naturally. I think the real answer isn't taxation, but plant some mother fucking trees and gardens.
I 2nd that motion
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CARB is like the SS of nazi California. I love living here but I can't stand this kind of legislation. Why can't they focus on industry and agriculture instead of gasoline powered cars?
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First they ban gay marriage with proposition 8, now trying to ban black cars.... next they will try to ban mexicans.... seriously though California legislators are seriously either really retarded or way too board. Or they do some heavy drugs. How about they target industrial areas or corporations that do more harm then any black cars combined. How about they enforce ways to recycle, conserve more power, not take away peoples freedom of choice.
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this is frickn stupid! wow some one is really going to get offended and get alot of people to follow and sew the state of cali, this is the worst thing i have ever heard of, i bet that if this passes if you have a black car your going to get a ticket, and thats how they will make money haha
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so if they said color black absorbs more heat which is true.


black cars are banned. where is this heading to next? black people absorb more heat?


this is fucking stupid. jst another bs where they can start making money.


and i support to plant more trees. stop flattening them hills just plant more trees.
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tahts stupid.. cop cars are halfblack.. why dont they just paint them all hot pink then so we can see them better
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It won't happen. It's just funny that such an idea has even been introduced/considered, haha.

Plus black paint is the cheapest to manufacture.
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w0w... seriously? damn.. thats just crazy..


whats goin to happen to the VIP scene in cali! lol =x
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I came on zilvia warning you guys about this leadership you are electing. But everyone was like obama is my homeboy!! Everybody!! Looks like most of you retards pissed the bed. now sleep in it. You voted for em.
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