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matts13vert · 07-14-2011, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by fckillerbee

that's the problem right there...hahaha. charlie can't drive for shits! haha.

you can tell him I said so! haha.

Only person at JD that I would let test a car is Henry. charlie...hahahaha. thanks for this laugh..i'm gonna go make fun of him now. haha. (i'm really laughing hard right now....this is an ongoing joke we've had for like 5 years about how charlie shouldn't drive peoples cars)

edit: FACEBOOK BLASTED! lol

Lmao he can drive better than me which i guess doesnt help.

anton1o · 07-14-2011, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by matts13vert

PBM pro coils
Upgraded multilink
basic ka-t
6 puck clutch
welded diff
dampening full stiff in the rear, half way from stiff up front.

alignment -3.5 camber front -2 rear, 7 degrees caster, 0 toe

215/35 595ss all around on 18x10

I have the stock clothes hanger sway bar on right now but i meant swap it out for a larger one?

Hey buddy,

If it was my car i would change the rim setup 1st, i can see by the look of the 18x10 on 215/35 with -2 camber that your probarbly going for the "cool" drift look? Also a welded diff isnt so easy, if the front isnt gripping up correctly its going to be "pushing" the car forward and not always in the best directions.. Nothing against them but you maybe just need to change a few things.

Why dont you borrow a mates basic rims maybe something like 18x9+20 for the rear try straighten up the camber to like -1 or -0.5, the 215 would be ok but if you can knock it up a bit and bring tyre pressure to about 34/36PSI.

For the fronts i would also ditch the 18x10, Sure they are awesome.. But with drift its good to learn the basics, enjoy the car, Level up with your skill.. Id go with a 18x9 and run the same 215 tyre so its not having to stretch beyond belief or even a 225, Camber is good, Caster is good, What about Toe? Aslong as that is factory levels you should be fine there also.

Thats my recommendations, sure your car wont be 'Hellaflush' but its drift, and from what youve said it seems like your still learning

thefro526 · 07-14-2011, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ILoveMyRHS13

Not going to lie, Eric Castro's posts in this thread helped me a lot. Stock single cam with Z32 wheels. Enter as fast as you possibly can, feint, clutch kick the living fuck out of it and never lift.

Zebra stripes also help.

<3. You've become a much better driver as of late.

Csomme · 07-14-2011, 05:39 PM

david, no, the guy that sets up Dai's car and Matt's car. He doesn't have anything to do with Chris' car, but he is one of the smartest suspension guys out there. Especially when it comes to drifting.

JDMStanced · 07-14-2011, 05:47 PM

is it ok to use acorn shaped lugnuts on rims that have flat surface where lugnuts make contact?

chiboy002 · 07-14-2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JDMStanced

is it ok to use acorn shaped lugnuts on rims that have flat surface where lugnuts make contact?

wrong thread but no. They rim wont sit as it should, and your lugs will eventually break

Get the right onces, Volk sells some for the GT-C i think

fckillerbee · 07-15-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by anton1o

Hey buddy,

If it was my car i would change the rim setup 1st, i can see by the look of the 18x10 on 215/35 with -2 camber that your probarbly going for the "cool" drift look? Also a welded diff isnt so easy, if the front isnt gripping up correctly its going to be "pushing" the car forward and not always in the best directions.. Nothing against them but you maybe just need to change a few things.

Why dont you borrow a mates basic rims maybe something like 18x9+20 for the rear try straighten up the camber to like -1 or -0.5, the 215 would be ok but if you can knock it up a bit and bring tyre pressure to about 34/36PSI.

For the fronts i would also ditch the 18x10, Sure they are awesome.. But with drift its good to learn the basics, enjoy the car, Level up with your skill.. Id go with a 18x9 and run the same 215 tyre so its not having to stretch beyond belief or even a 225, Camber is good, Caster is good, What about Toe? Aslong as that is factory levels you should be fine there also.

Thats my recommendations, sure your car wont be 'Hellaflush' but its drift, and from what youve said it seems like your still learning

to be honest, if you were going to switch to a 18x9 just to learn drifting, you might as well pick up some stockies and learn to slide like that. Once you get it down packed...moving to a bigger wheel will just be a little harder.

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Originally Posted by Csomme

david, no, the guy that sets up Dai's car and Matt's car. He doesn't have anything to do with Chris' car, but he is one of the smartest suspension guys out there. Especially when it comes to drifting.

well in that case, I have some serious questions to Dai's braking system. lol. we were watching him slow down at long beach, his fronts would lock up, rears were still spinning no problem, then he would get on the gas and blamo...take off. Some of the fab guys I know are wondering if he's running a shut off system to the rear brakes (maybe a spring related valving).

word sux · 07-16-2011, 04:42 AM

just tried my new entry technique yesterday at an event

I call it the whammy honker. its a feint that I start with a clutch kick so I can enter super early.

Csomme · 07-16-2011, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by fckillerbee

well in that case, I have some serious questions to Dai's braking system. lol. we were watching him slow down at long beach, his fronts would lock up, rears were still spinning no problem, then he would get on the gas and blamo...take off. Some of the fab guys I know are wondering if he's running a shut off system to the rear brakes (maybe a spring related valving).

He just has a proportioning(spelling? lol) valve, inside the car for the wilwood stuff, he's running a sweet dual caliper rear, so he could even stand to completely just run fronts if he wanted to, then ebrake when he needed.

fckillerbee · 07-16-2011, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Csomme

He just has a proportioning(spelling? lol) valve, inside the car for the wilwood stuff, he's running a sweet dual caliper rear, so he could even stand to completely just run fronts if he wanted to, then ebrake when he needed.

aaaahhhhhh....it all makes sense now. lol

ILoveMyRHS13 · 07-16-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by thefro526

Zebra stripes also help.

<3. You've become a much better driver as of late.

Awww thanks, Fro.

ECB was my first event since those Pocono event's you were at haha. Honestly, the alignment helped A LOT.

EVERYONE GET YOUR FUCKING CARS ALIGNED. It really make's a world of a difference.

*!Zar!* · 07-16-2011, 01:50 PM

Yeah, an alignment is a must.

Without it, it is like trying to run with your shoes untied.

Pignoseluther · 07-16-2011, 02:19 PM

Ok I just got my first s13 and want to get into drifting but no one around me has a rwd or let alone a s chasis I would like to hear from u guys who drift alot where to start I have a k24de a stock rear end and the guy b4 me cut the springs ( so I'm looking for suspension upgrades) so any info would help I appreciate u guys helping a noob

ILoveMyRHS13 · 07-16-2011, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pignoseluther

Ok I just got my first s13 and want to get into drifting but no one around me has a rwd or let alone a s chasis I would like to hear from u guys who drift alot where to start I have a k24de a stock rear end and the guy b4 me cut the springs ( so I'm looking for suspension upgrades) so any info would help I appreciate u guys helping a noob

Get coilovers, weld the diff and go to the local track and drive drive drive.

anton1o · 07-17-2011, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by fckillerbee

to be honest, if you were going to switch to a 18x9 just to learn drifting, you might as well pick up some stockies and learn to slide like that. Once you get it down packed...moving to a bigger wheel will just be a little harder.

Understand what your saying, but atleast he can still run his current tyres just not as stupidly stretch and he will have proper ground contact

Going down to a Stockies will just mean more funds spent on good tyres in 16" diamater, meaning huge sidewalls and big flex.. Maybe on the rears cause they will be easy to control, but up front no way imo!

iamtheyi · 07-17-2011, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by anton1o

Understand what your saying, but atleast he can still run his current tyres just not as stupidly stretch and he will have proper ground contact

Going down to a Stockies will just mean more funds spent on good tyres in 16" diamater, meaning huge sidewalls and big flex.. Maybe on the rears cause they will be easy to control, but up front no way imo!

Drifting on stockies is cake. 16" tires are pretty cheap. Se's go fo like 80-120 w/o tires for all 4. One of his tires will cost that much. Why not make it easier to drift, learn some stuff, then go on to his bigger wheels he already has?

word sux · 07-17-2011, 07:15 PM

if you need drift tires just go around to local shops and raid tire pile's

free tires rule

JDMStanced · 07-17-2011, 09:24 PM

is it ok to use these tires to drift? they already have cracks. dunlop direzza.
i'm guessing the bold part (camber wear) is going to show wire very soon while drifting.

fckillerbee · 07-18-2011, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JDMStanced

is it ok to use these tires to drift? they already have cracks. dunlop direzza.
i'm guessing the bold part (camber wear) is going to show wire very soon while drifting.

pretty much a dead tire. good for a couple laps. just put the meat side on the inside. tires usually wear more on the inside if you are running camber.

*!Zar!* · 07-18-2011, 01:12 PM

Personally, I'd find that a waste of time (mount/dismount) as well as space to use that tire.

Especially if you are not mounting your tires yourself/for free.

fckillerbee · 07-18-2011, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by !Zar!

Personally, I'd find that a waste of time (mount/dismount) as well as space to use that tire.

Especially if you are not mounting your tires yourself/for free.

as I would agree with your statement as well. some people just like using up ALL of the tire. to each their own.

revcyanide · 07-18-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fckillerbee

as I would agree with your statement as well. some people just like using up ALL of the tire. to each their own.

I get tires for free sometimes witha lot better tread, at WORST they are where those are, i mount em myself.
i use em till belts are everywhere : D

JDMStanced · 07-18-2011, 03:13 PM

can i haz some tirez for frhee? lol
i'll just bring these wheels and another pair next time.

revcyanide · 07-18-2011, 03:28 PM

as an example, got this set for free.99 235/40/17 i think? usually decent sizes

and no, none for you

fckillerbee · 07-18-2011, 03:32 PM

yup...free tires, free mounting, makes it worth the few laps that you can get out of em.

anton1o · 07-18-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by iamtheyi

Drifting on stockies is cake. 16" tires are pretty cheap. Se's go fo like 80-120 w/o tires for all 4. One of his tires will cost that much. Why not make it easier to drift, learn some stuff, then go on to his bigger wheels he already has?

I've just never been a fan of stocks personally, car just feels like its got a blown tire with so much flex going on and huge tire, 17" with a 45 profile is just a good all rounder.

chiboy002 · 07-18-2011, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by word sux

if you need drift tires just go around to local shops and raid tire pile's

free tires rule

Not worrying about used tires wearing out fast = better

*!Zar!* · 07-18-2011, 10:21 PM

Carefuk about running tires down until they explode. Wouldn't want to damage your car because the thread slaps the car or damage your wheel.

jasoncanseeoh · 07-19-2011, 03:24 AM

^the truth.

just happened to me at the last event. lol

fckillerbee · 07-19-2011, 03:21 PM

haha, one of the drivers of mulsanne (chuck) blew his fender 20 feet in the air cause of a tire blowing out on him. crazy shit.

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07-14-2011, 05:39 PM	#784
Csomme Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: north carolinazzz Age: 30 Posts: 1,009 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	david, no, the guy that sets up Dai's car and Matt's car. He doesn't have anything to do with Chris' car, but he is one of the smartest suspension guys out there. Especially when it comes to drifting.

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JDMStanced Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: irvine Posts: 606 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	is it ok to use acorn shaped lugnuts on rims that have flat surface where lugnuts make contact?

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word sux Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: earth Age: 59 Posts: 1,138 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just tried my new entry technique yesterday at an event I call it the whammy honker. its a feint that I start with a clutch kick so I can enter super early.

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Pignoseluther Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Pickerington ohio Age: 29 Posts: 17 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ok I just got my first s13 and want to get into drifting but no one around me has a rwd or let alone a s chasis I would like to hear from u guys who drift alot where to start I have a k24de a stock rear end and the guy b4 me cut the springs ( so I'm looking for suspension upgrades) so any info would help I appreciate u guys helping a noob

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word sux Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: earth Age: 59 Posts: 1,138 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if you need drift tires just go around to local shops and raid tire pile's free tires rule

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JDMStanced Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: irvine Posts: 606 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	is it ok to use these tires to drift? they already have cracks. dunlop direzza. i'm guessing the bold part (camber wear) is going to show wire very soon while drifting.

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JDMStanced Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: irvine Posts: 606 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	can i haz some tirez for frhee? lol i'll just bring these wheels and another pair next time.

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fckillerbee Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Age: 36 Posts: 4,266 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	yup...free tires, free mounting, makes it worth the few laps that you can get out of em.

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jasoncanseeoh Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Seattle FTW Posts: 152 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^the truth. just happened to me at the last event. lol

07-19-2011, 03:21 PM	#810
fckillerbee Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Age: 36 Posts: 4,266 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	haha, one of the drivers of mulsanne (chuck) blew his fender 20 feet in the air cause of a tire blowing out on him. crazy shit.