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dev893 · 08-23-2018, 06:49 PM

I have a 1990 240SX with an RB20DET that being said I am wanting to upgrade brakes while staying 4 lug, what is the best options for this using parts that can be found at parts stores, I have thought about using the ABS model brakes since they are .4" bigger than none ABS cars but is there a better option?

apex · 08-23-2018, 07:01 PM

The best option is the search button
Plenty of adaptors for bigger calipers n redirlled rotors around
Here just need to find them

*afishysilvia* · 08-23-2018, 07:02 PM

You can stay 4 lug and upgrade to the Z32 calipers running bigger BMC, New lines, and Redrilled rotors.

5280VertDET · 08-24-2018, 09:48 AM

Q45, redrill the disks. Cheap and effective.

Jefro240 · 08-24-2018, 10:48 AM

Z32 26mm Caliper with Altima 22mm Rotor. 4mm difference is small enough to be taken up by the pads/pistons. No re-drilling.

Or Maxima Calipers & Altima Rotors "the 180sx setup". No re-drilling.

dev893 · 08-26-2018, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jefro240

Z32 26mm Caliper with Altima 22mm Rotor. 4mm difference is small enough to be taken up by the pads/pistons. No re-drilling.

Or Maxima Calipers & Altima Rotors "the 180sx setup". No re-drilling.

dont the Z32 calipers require a bracket and special lines? what year altima and maximas

Jefro240 · 08-28-2018, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dev893

dont the Z32 calipers require a bracket and special lines? what year altima and maximas

Z32 will require conversion flex lines etc. No bracket.

180sx setup is 01 Altma SE-R Rotors & 89-99 Maxima Calipers.

*TheRealSy90* · 08-28-2018, 05:28 PM

Z32 brakes is bolt on and can drill the rotors for 4 lug easily in your garage.
Q45 is bolt on and can use S14 4-lug rotors.
Sentra SER Brembos are bolt on and 4 lug.

smoked240 · 08-28-2018, 05:54 PM

I have front z32s on my 4 lug, not quite sure on rotors. I will double check on that, I know they weren't drilled so its either stock s13 or s14 4-lug. my stock s13 brake lines work with them.

Stay with your stock BMC unless you want to change the feel of your brake pedal.

*TheRealSy90* · 08-29-2018, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by smoked240

I have front z32s on my 4 lug, not quite sure on rotors. I will double check on that, I know they weren't drilled so its either stock s13 or s14 4-lug. my stock s13 brake lines work with them.

Stay with your stock BMC unless you want to change the feel of your brake pedal.

The stock s13 brake hoses do not work with z32 calipers. Neither do the stock rotors. You either have the appropriate lines and rotors or you don't have z32 calipers.
Many people feel the stock BMC with Z32 calipers results in a spongy brake pedal, some don't mind it.

smoked240 · 08-29-2018, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

The stock s13 brake hoses do not work with z32 calipers. Neither do the stock rotors. You either have the appropriate lines and rotors or you don't have z32 calipers.
Many people feel the stock BMC with Z32 calipers results in a spongy brake pedal, some don't mind it.

I replaced my brake line with an s13 and it fit...I know for a fact I have z32 calipers. EDIT(Unless Q45s look identical to z32s, that I am not sure on)

5280VertDET · 08-30-2018, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by smoked240

I replaced my brake line with an s13 and it fit...I know for a fact I have z32 calipers. EDIT(Unless Q45s look identical to z32s, that I am not sure on)

Completely different design.

Q45:

Z32:

*TheRealSy90* · 08-30-2018, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by smoked240

I replaced my brake line with an s13 and it fit...I know for a fact I have z32 calipers. EDIT(Unless Q45s look identical to z32s, that I am not sure on)

Then your car probably has Q45 calipers, not Z32.

silverarrow27 · 08-30-2018, 05:02 PM

Q45 calipers w/ Fastbrakes 4 lug rotors...

It's been several years since I bought rotors from fastbrakes.com, but they use to sell a direct bolt-on 12" 4 lug rotor upgrade to go with the Q45 brake upgrades for s13s. Inquire about their front rotors because I don't think I saw it available on their site anymore.

smoked240 · 08-30-2018, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

Then your car probably has Q45 calipers, not Z32.

Nope, I checked last night and they are Z32's. 5280vertDET confirmed with pictures. Been almost 9 years since I've had to touch my brakes and after checking it over I have hardlines in the front lol.

Like pissing into the wind, It's all coming back to me lol. I had to order the s13 line so I just got a bend-to-spec hard line when my tension rod snapped 7ish years ago just to get home.

I stand corrected!

dev893 · 09-05-2018, 10:31 PM

is there an upgrade option for the rear that allows you to keep the same style parking brake?

*TheRealSy90* · 09-09-2018, 01:37 AM

Wilwood. Look up the kits on Arizona Z Car.

dev893 · 09-10-2018, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

Wilwood. Look up the kits on Arizona Z Car.

I've looked at those just cant afford a grand on brakes right now

jedi03 · 09-11-2018, 08:31 AM

I would suggest q45 and redrill some rotors then! autozone usually has good prices!

apex · 09-11-2018, 02:20 PM

the best bang for the buck are brakes from an infin j30
Same calipers as q45 just smaller better wheel options
Uses same s13 brake booster, bmc, and lines
Just drill them to four lug

***FaLKoN240*** · 09-11-2018, 02:51 PM

It's 2018 and we're seriously unable to find 4 lug brake upgrades? You def did not search.

dev893 · 09-12-2018, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

It's 2018 and we're seriously unable to find 4 lug brake upgrades? You def did not search.

should've been clear that I was looking for best bang for the buck upgrade like junkyard hunting

08-23-2018, 06:49 PM	#1
dev893 Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Utah Age: 26 Posts: 11 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	4 lug brake upgrade I have a 1990 240SX with an RB20DET that being said I am wanting to upgrade brakes while staying 4 lug, what is the best options for this using parts that can be found at parts stores, I have thought about using the ABS model brakes since they are .4" bigger than none ABS cars but is there a better option?

08-23-2018, 07:01 PM	#2
apex Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: palm springs Posts: 1,566 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	The best option is the search button Plenty of adaptors for bigger calipers n redirlled rotors around Here just need to find them __________________ Red Rocket

08-23-2018, 07:02 PM	#3
afishysilvia Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Cali Posts: 3,372 Trader Rating: (30) Rides Gallery: afishysilvia Feedback Score: 30 reviews	You can stay 4 lug and upgrade to the Z32 calipers running bigger BMC, New lines, and Redrilled rotors. __________________ Dont be a pussy...Leave your name

08-24-2018, 09:48 AM	#4
5280VertDET Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Denver Age: 37 Posts: 2,052 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	Q45, redrill the disks. Cheap and effective. __________________ S13 Vert \| SR \| PE1420 \| 5-Speed \| 15x9.5 - 0 \|

08-24-2018, 10:48 AM	#5
Jefro240 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Eastern Hemisphere Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Z32 26mm Caliper with Altima 22mm Rotor. 4mm difference is small enough to be taken up by the pads/pistons. No re-drilling. Or Maxima Calipers & Altima Rotors "the 180sx setup". No re-drilling. __________________ \| 92 S13 Hatch \| 92 S13 Coupe \| 95 S14.5 \|

08-28-2018, 05:54 PM	#9
smoked240 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: North Dakota Age: 30 Posts: 1,066 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I have front z32s on my 4 lug, not quite sure on rotors. I will double check on that, I know they weren't drilled so its either stock s13 or s14 4-lug. my stock s13 brake lines work with them. Stay with your stock BMC unless you want to change the feel of your brake pedal. __________________

08-30-2018, 05:02 PM	#14
silverarrow27 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Banning, CA Posts: 1,428 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Q45 calipers w/ Fastbrakes 4 lug rotors... It's been several years since I bought rotors from fastbrakes.com, but they use to sell a direct bolt-on 12" 4 lug rotor upgrade to go with the Q45 brake upgrades for s13s. Inquire about their front rotors because I don't think I saw it available on their site anymore. __________________ 1989 240sx XE\|2002 Frontier SC CC LB 4wd\|2011 Pathfinder LE V8 4wd

09-05-2018, 10:31 PM	#16
dev893 Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Utah Age: 26 Posts: 11 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	is there an upgrade option for the rear that allows you to keep the same style parking brake?

09-11-2018, 08:31 AM	#19
jedi03 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: albuquerque Posts: 1,784 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I would suggest q45 and redrill some rotors then! autozone usually has good prices!

09-11-2018, 02:20 PM	#20
apex Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: palm springs Posts: 1,566 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	the best bang for the buck are brakes from an infin j30 Same calipers as q45 just smaller better wheel options Uses same s13 brake booster, bmc, and lines Just drill them to four lug __________________ Red Rocket

09-11-2018, 02:51 PM	#21
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 16,760 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	It's 2018 and we're seriously unable to find 4 lug brake upgrades? You def did not search. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

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