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MitchellBade · 07-02-2010, 05:42 PM

This car is crazy! If I sell my life maybe I could do this. Now this is how you build a race car.

FullRaceGeoff · 07-02-2010, 06:00 PM

The new issue of modified magazine is on news stands, check it out!!

We got 2nd place in AWD class.

Full-Race has recently received a lot of PMs and emails now that the new issue of the Tuner shootout is on newstands. The updated R14 portion of the Full-Race.com site is coming next week, but to answer the basic questions, ill copy/paste the beginning text for you:

Full-Race.com -- R14 DIY HOW-TO info

this portion of the Full-Race.com website breaks down the R14 conversion in detail. Pictures and information help to make it clear how to do this AWD RB26 swap. If you've done a few different motor swaps, installed some turbokits, know how to use a hand-drill + welder (220 Volt Mig welder recommended), and are committed/prepared to take on a big project you can tackle this install. If you dont know how to do swaps or install aftermarket turbokits, do not start this conversion until you have more experience or better understand the process.

A) Required BIG parts:
-(95-98) S14 Chassis, S15 will work too. S13 will NOT work for this swap!! <
-R32 GTR front clip w/ complete front suspension and complete rear subframe <easy to find at any big JDM importers/yards>
-Full-Race R14 DIY kit

^^^If you can acquire all of the above items^^^ all the big purchases are out of the way.

B) Full-Race R14 kit consists of these parts required to do the swap:

R14 Frame Rails (Left and Right side)
R14 billet frame blocks
Subframe Bolts/washers
LHD RB26 steering rack
Transmission Mount
Frame side Transmission Mount-plate
Front Upper-Control-Arm Structure (Upper Shock mounts)
Lower Shock mounts
1-piece Driveshaft (Aluminum or Steel)
1/2" Eye-to-Eye Coilovers - Moton or Koni (Circletrack or Road Race style heim-mounted)

Here is how it all works, and enough instructions to get you going:

First, start by getting the R32 GTR clip fully disassembled. We will be using almost every major component from this clip. Keep all the suspension control arms, brakes, hubs and bolts sorted, with their respective hardware. The engine and transmission should be inspected and it is recommended to refresh it - new timing belt, clutch, oil pump, etc. At this point, the subframe should be unbolted from the motor mounts and then cleaned/prepped for the swap....

to be continued. Thanks for the interest in the R14 conversions!

90white240 · 07-03-2010, 12:02 AM

Bad a$$$$$

besTint · 07-03-2010, 01:35 AM

what is this front bumper??

FullRaceGeoff · 07-03-2010, 08:13 AM

bumper is from touge factory - version select!

besTint · 07-03-2010, 03:30 PM

version 1 im guessing? and are they a replica company? cause version II is a picture of the MSPORTS kit.

iwishiwas-all* · 07-03-2010, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by besTint

version 1 im guessing? and are they a replica company? cause version II is a picture of the MSPORTS kit.

yes its a rep of vertex...

FullRaceGeoff · 07-06-2010, 10:53 AM

beats me, i just liked it and got it cheap. good quality glass overall, it fit surprisingly well

redline racer510 · 07-13-2010, 10:41 AM

Hey Geoff got a job for me. Working at Mercedes Benz is starting to bore me and I know recession is a B!+ch but damn I would rather be a part of that.

Bovi · 07-13-2010, 11:06 AM

sick ride !!!!

niteridaz503 · 07-13-2010, 12:07 PM

HOLLY FUDGE STICKS THIS THING IS AMAZING!!!!

I remember reading the whole article on this car, everything is absolutely incredible in this car its definitely an "AMAZING MACHINE"

onlydrinkkoolaid · 07-15-2010, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullracegeoff

the new issue of modified magazine is on news stands, check it out!!

we got 2nd place in awd class.

full-race has recently received a lot of pms and emails now that the new issue of the tuner shootout is on newstands. The updated r14 portion of the full-race.com site is coming next week, but to answer the basic questions, ill copy/paste the beginning text for you:

Full-race.com -- r14 diy how-to info

this portion of the full-race.com website breaks down the r14 conversion in detail. Pictures and information help to make it clear how to do this awd rb26 swap. If you've done a few different motor swaps, installed some turbokits, know how to use a hand-drill + welder (220 volt mig welder recommended), and are committed/prepared to take on a big project you can tackle this install. If you dont know how to do swaps or install aftermarket turbokits, do not start this conversion until you have more experience or better understand the process.

A) required big parts:
-(95-98) s14 chassis, s15 will work too. S13 will not work for this swap!! <
-r32 gtr front clip w/ complete front suspension and complete rear subframe <easy to find at any big jdm importers/yards>
-full-race r14 diy kit

^^^if you can acquire all of the above items^^^ all the big purchases are out of the way.

B) full-race r14 kit consists of these parts required to do the swap:

R14 frame rails (left and right side)
r14 billet frame blocks
subframe bolts/washers
lhd rb26 steering rack
transmission mount
frame side transmission mount-plate
front upper-control-arm structure (upper shock mounts)
lower shock mounts
1-piece driveshaft (aluminum or steel)
1/2" eye-to-eye coilovers - moton or koni (circletrack or road race style heim-mounted)

here is how it all works, and enough instructions to get you going:

First, start by getting the r32 gtr clip fully disassembled. We will be using almost every major component from this clip. Keep all the suspension control arms, brakes, hubs and bolts sorted, with their respective hardware. The engine and transmission should be inspected and it is recommended to refresh it - new timing belt, clutch, oil pump, etc. At this point, the subframe should be unbolted from the motor mounts and then cleaned/prepped for the swap....

To be continued. Thanks for the interest in the r14 conversions!

please tell me more im just the kind of crazy person who would do this because its my dream to build awd s14 chassis

*kognition* · 07-16-2010, 01:55 AM

This car is badass!

Quote:

Originally Posted by FullRaceGeoff

beats me, i just liked it and got it cheap. good quality glass overall, it fit surprisingly well

ItzGenX · 07-16-2010, 04:49 PM

This car is awesome! I am building an awd S14 right now also, but I am using the front shock towers from the R32 clip and R32 rear subframe instead of R33 rear subframe like the R14. Getting everything in and fitted seems to be no problem for me with the drivetrain. However, I am very interested in the torque split controller your friend is building. Got any new details on that? Lacking automatic torque split is the only problem I can see with the awd system being swapped in.

ItzGenX · 07-16-2010, 04:52 PM

Hmm that name kognition rings a bell. You wouldn't happen to be the maker of sunroof deletes for S13/14's that I saw going around a while back but cant seem to find now would ya?

ReaperBJJ · 07-16-2010, 06:12 PM

This car is one of my inspirations, once I get my new rustless s13 chassis I plan on going AWD once I figure out the whole Torque Split/Altessa delete issue. I've read up on plenty of s13's done and it doesn't seem like TOO much different, just lots of fab.

Also I couldn't find any interior shots really, do you have any?

*kognition* · 07-17-2010, 11:34 AM

No, im not that guy anymore. I had to stop making useless shit that wasn't making any money for the business.
Only track wings now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ItzGenX

Hmm that name kognition rings a bell. You wouldn't happen to be the maker of sunroof deletes for S13/14's that I saw going around a while back but cant seem to find now would ya?

s!lv!a · 07-18-2010, 01:09 PM

this car is just so ridiculously nice, great work geoff

onlydrinkkoolaid · 07-21-2010, 11:45 PM

If you dont mind me asking but where did you buy your spherical bearings from I have the welding skills just cant find anywhere to buy them from

FullRaceGeoff · 07-22-2010, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kognition

This car is badass!

^^^Best aero out!!!

The Kognition wing will help to balance out the chassis, especially with the NASCAR splitter setup we have. Currently - the POS wing we're using is about the same as an APR and just doesnt produce anywhere close to the amount of drag-free downforce a Kognition designed wing is capable of

to your work sir!

Quote:

Originally Posted by onlydrinkkoolaid

please tell me more im just the kind of crazy person who would do this because its my dream to build awd s14 chassis

our web guy is a laggard! he's working on wrapping up an entirely new Full-Race.com site and the R14 update is part of that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by niteridaz503

HOLLY FUDGE STICKS THIS THING IS AMAZING!!!! I remember reading the whole article on this car, everything is absolutely incredible in this car its definitely an "AMAZING MACHINE"

Quote:

Originally Posted by s!lv!a

this car is just so ridiculously nice, great work geoff

thanks alot for the props, the R14 is back under the knife getting a new turbokit and some aero love. you guys supporting us is huge motivation to keep things going!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReaperBJJ

This car is one of my inspirations, once I get my new rustless s13 chassis I plan on going AWD once I figure out the whole Torque Split/Altessa delete issue.

i strongly encourage that you do the AWD swap with an S14! the S13 will be more work

Quote:

Originally Posted by onlydrinkkoolaid

If you dont mind me asking but where did you buy your spherical bearings from I have the welding skills just cant find anywhere to buy them from

SPLparts is the best quality nissan specific suspension parts that ive seen anywhere in the world.

if you are a fabricator and make your own arms or machine your own bearing housings, GMRstore the desert truck guys are no joke when it comes to sphericals and heims

niteridaz503 · 07-22-2010, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FullRaceGeoff

thanks alot for the props, the R14 is back under the knife getting a new turbokit and some aero love. you guys supporting us is huge motivation to keep things going!

you have it all wrong man your the motivation for us

(if you catch my drift LMAO JK) leme know when you wana wax the R14

lol

This things intense and it just keeps getting better i wana see more updates & pics lol

D1S13 · 07-22-2010, 07:05 PM

have you installed this kit on any customer cars?

Def · 07-22-2010, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FullRaceGeoff

SPLparts is the best quality nissan specific suspension parts that ive seen anywhere in the world.

if you are a fabricator and make your own arms or machine your own bearing housings, GMRstore the desert truck guys are no joke when it comes to sphericals and heims

You sell the set of spherical bearings you got from me?

FullRaceGeoff · 07-23-2010, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D1S13

have you installed this kit on any customer cars?

yes, in fact thats where the pics for our installation guide came from

One car in florida, one in georgia, one in the caribean, 2 in AZ and one in california. After these we just didnt have the time to bring cars in, because it was interfering with our turbokit mfg business

Quote:

Originally Posted by Def

You sell the set of spherical bearings you got from me?

i ran them, however they developed way too much slop and i had to go back to the drawing board. Mike at skullworks was a help, but insisted his "Com" grade sphericals were up to the task... whatever the reason i have a bunch of those sphericals worn out by my desk. I switched to aurora motorsport grade and no problems.

40cal · 07-29-2010, 06:19 PM

what size bearings are you using?
are they 5/8 or 3/4 or bigger?

***Future240*** · 07-29-2010, 07:51 PM

This is the definition of car Pr0ns.

FullRaceGeoff · 07-30-2010, 03:23 PM

thanks future240!

40cal, it depends on where the bearing is

93sileighty · 07-30-2010, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FullRaceGeoff

A) Required BIG parts:

-Full-Race R14 DIY kit

Does this mean i missed something and these DIY kits are finally available or atleast have a firm date and pricing. If so I am now on a ramen and water diet and my turbo e34 project is officially scrapped because i will be building the r14 i have been dreaming about.

FullRaceGeoff · 07-31-2010, 07:27 AM

correct, the web guy we have is a terrible slacker and hasnt gotten anything done with our site as of late, but the DIY R14 kits are completely wrapped up with design work and install procedure. The pricing and web updates are all thats left. sorry to scrap your turbo e34 plans, but i have an i6 e39 i was going to boost and instead am building another r14 too

onlydrinkkoolaid · 08-05-2010, 10:08 PM

please hurry with the site I have been on and off the page looking for updates since December 2007 when that Modified Mag issue came out and yes I still read that article from time to time. I thought you guys completed abandoned the R14 so i was left dreaming and quoting STAR TREK "to boldly go where no man has gone before."

07-02-2010, 05:42 PM	#181
MitchellBade Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 205 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	This car is crazy! If I sell my life maybe I could do this. Now this is how you build a race car. __________________

07-03-2010, 12:02 AM	#183
90white240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ghettolanto!!!!! Posts: 874 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Bad a$$$$$ __________________

07-03-2010, 01:35 AM	#184
besTint Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stanton, CA Posts: 2,641 Trader Rating: (81) Rides Gallery: besTint Feedback Score: 81 reviews	what is this front bumper?? __________________ http://squarespokes.com/

07-03-2010, 03:30 PM	#186
besTint Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stanton, CA Posts: 2,641 Trader Rating: (81) Rides Gallery: besTint Feedback Score: 81 reviews	version 1 im guessing? and are they a replica company? cause version II is a picture of the MSPORTS kit. __________________ http://squarespokes.com/

07-22-2010, 07:05 PM	#202
D1S13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2007 Location: phx Posts: 830 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	have you installed this kit on any customer cars? __________________ www.teamtopflight.blogspot.com

07-02-2010, 06:00 PM	#182
FullRaceGeoff Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: az/nj Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The new issue of modified magazine is on news stands, check it out!! We got 2nd place in AWD class. Full-Race has recently received a lot of PMs and emails now that the new issue of the Tuner shootout is on newstands. The updated R14 portion of the Full-Race.com site is coming next week, but to answer the basic questions, ill copy/paste the beginning text for you: Full-Race.com -- R14 DIY HOW-TO info this portion of the Full-Race.com website breaks down the R14 conversion in detail. Pictures and information help to make it clear how to do this AWD RB26 swap. If you've done a few different motor swaps, installed some turbokits, know how to use a hand-drill + welder (220 Volt Mig welder recommended), and are committed/prepared to take on a big project you can tackle this install. If you dont know how to do swaps or install aftermarket turbokits, do not start this conversion until you have more experience or better understand the process. A) Required BIG parts: -(95-98) S14 Chassis, S15 will work too. S13 will NOT work for this swap!! < -R32 GTR front clip w/ complete front suspension and complete rear subframe <easy to find at any big JDM importers/yards> -Full-Race R14 DIY kit ^^^If you can acquire all of the above items^^^ all the big purchases are out of the way. B) Full-Race R14 kit consists of these parts required to do the swap: R14 Frame Rails (Left and Right side) R14 billet frame blocks Subframe Bolts/washers LHD RB26 steering rack Transmission Mount Frame side Transmission Mount-plate Front Upper-Control-Arm Structure (Upper Shock mounts) Lower Shock mounts 1-piece Driveshaft (Aluminum or Steel) 1/2" Eye-to-Eye Coilovers - Moton or Koni (Circletrack or Road Race style heim-mounted) Here is how it all works, and enough instructions to get you going: First, start by getting the R32 GTR clip fully disassembled. We will be using almost every major component from this clip. Keep all the suspension control arms, brakes, hubs and bolts sorted, with their respective hardware. The engine and transmission should be inspected and it is recommended to refresh it - new timing belt, clutch, oil pump, etc. At this point, the subframe should be unbolted from the motor mounts and then cleaned/prepped for the swap.... to be continued. Thanks for the interest in the R14 conversions!

07-03-2010, 08:13 AM	#185
FullRaceGeoff Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: az/nj Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	bumper is from touge factory - version select!

07-06-2010, 10:53 AM	#188
FullRaceGeoff Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: az/nj Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	beats me, i just liked it and got it cheap. good quality glass overall, it fit surprisingly well

07-13-2010, 10:41 AM	#189
redline racer510 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: EARFF(earth for you idiots) Posts: 1,072 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Hey Geoff got a job for me. Working at Mercedes Benz is starting to bore me and I know recession is a B!+ch but damn I would rather be a part of that.

07-13-2010, 11:06 AM	#190
Bovi Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Montreal Posts: 7 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sick ride !!!!

07-16-2010, 04:49 PM	#194
ItzGenX Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Pass Christian, MS Age: 38 Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This car is awesome! I am building an awd S14 right now also, but I am using the front shock towers from the R32 clip and R32 rear subframe instead of R33 rear subframe like the R14. Getting everything in and fitted seems to be no problem for me with the drivetrain. However, I am very interested in the torque split controller your friend is building. Got any new details on that? Lacking automatic torque split is the only problem I can see with the awd system being swapped in.

07-16-2010, 04:52 PM	#195
ItzGenX Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Pass Christian, MS Age: 38 Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hmm that name kognition rings a bell. You wouldn't happen to be the maker of sunroof deletes for S13/14's that I saw going around a while back but cant seem to find now would ya?

07-16-2010, 06:12 PM	#196
ReaperBJJ Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brainerd, MN Age: 32 Posts: 132 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This car is one of my inspirations, once I get my new rustless s13 chassis I plan on going AWD once I figure out the whole Torque Split/Altessa delete issue. I've read up on plenty of s13's done and it doesn't seem like TOO much different, just lots of fab. Also I couldn't find any interior shots really, do you have any?

07-18-2010, 01:09 PM	#198
s!lv!a Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Texas Age: 34 Posts: 142 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	this car is just so ridiculously nice, great work geoff

07-21-2010, 11:45 PM	#199
onlydrinkkoolaid Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Gainesville,FL Age: 33 Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	If you dont mind me asking but where did you buy your spherical bearings from I have the welding skills just cant find anywhere to buy them from

07-29-2010, 06:19 PM	#205
40cal BANNED Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 49 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what size bearings are you using? are they 5/8 or 3/4 or bigger?

07-30-2010, 03:23 PM	#207
FullRaceGeoff Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: az/nj Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks future240! 40cal, it depends on where the bearing is

07-31-2010, 07:27 AM	#209
FullRaceGeoff Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: az/nj Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	correct, the web guy we have is a terrible slacker and hasnt gotten anything done with our site as of late, but the DIY R14 kits are completely wrapped up with design work and install procedure. The pricing and web updates are all thats left. sorry to scrap your turbo e34 plans, but i have an i6 e39 i was going to boost and instead am building another r14 too

08-05-2010, 10:08 PM	#210
onlydrinkkoolaid Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Gainesville,FL Age: 33 Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	please hurry with the site I have been on and off the page looking for updates since December 2007 when that Modified Mag issue came out and yes I still read that article from time to time. I thought you guys completed abandoned the R14 so i was left dreaming and quoting STAR TREK "to boldly go where no man has gone before."

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