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Old 07-01-2013, 08:55 AM   #61
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To add to that "Bargnani deal", Knicks showing interest in Monta Ellis.

Sources: Knicks express interest in Monta Ellis - CBSSports.com
Bargnani is a nice solid player. The Knicks need to find a way to get rid of Amare. Ellis is worth more than what the Knicks would be able to pay him, it'd be a substantial pay cut. Not a good fit for him.
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Bargnani is a nice solid player. The Knicks need to find a way to get rid of Amare. Ellis is worth more than what the Knicks would be able to pay him, it'd be a substantial pay cut. Not a good fit for him.
Bargnani is injury prone and hadn't played a good game for the Raptors since he was drafted (exaggeration but he hasn't been that 1st overall pick difference maker since being drafted)

Assuming Carmelo stays, Ellis is not a good fit. They may have dumped JR and a few other players but that front court's payroll is killing the Knicks.

Honestly, coming into the season, I was afraid that the KNicks finally found the formula to beating the Heat.

Anyway, I hope Dwight stays.

LA has 16 titles, in 31 of the 65 Finals.

The Lakers have missed the playoffs five times since 1948. The Rockets have missed the playoffs EIGHT times since 2000.

Lakers have been to 16 Finals and won 10 titles since 1980. Nearly one Finals appearance every 2 years and a title every 3.

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Bynum refusing to workout with any team before signing a contract? lol wut? This guy can't be serious....
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So here's a question, does any fanbase actually want Howard?

Houston fans?

Dallas fans?

I know there are a few of you in here.
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So here's a question, does any fanbase actually want Howard?

Houston fans?

Dallas fans?

I know there are a few of you in here.
The most visible of ALL fanbases want him.
The smartest among us, though, know not to want him
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It's funny, you would think that Dwight Howard was as bad as Eddie Curry. All I hear is how much of a cancer he is and how bad he is. One guy compared him to TO while the other guy said "atleast TO was productive"... I guess 17ppg, 12rpg and 2.4bpg with a bad back= bad player. Howard isn't the cancer that the media has made him out to be, I wish the fan bases would see this. It's funny how guys like JO, Ron Artest and Cptn Jack are seen as good team mates while Dwight is a cancer. Dwight better find a few fans to swing on quick so he can win some fanbases.

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It's funny, you would think that Dwight Howard was as bad as Eddie Curry. All I hear is how much of a cancer he is and how bad he is. One guy compared him to TO while the other guy said "atleast TO was productive"... I guess 17ppg, 12rpg and 2.4bpg with a bad back= bad player. Howard isn't the cancer that the media has made him out to be, I wish the fan bases would see this. It's funny how guys like JO, Ron Artest and Cptn Jack are seen as good team mates while Dwight is a cancer. Dwight better find a few fans to swing on quick so he can win some fanbases.

Can't wait to see who is going to max out Bynum and his hair while he refuses to workout.
That is the problem, TO was productive until it was time to pay the fucking piper. As a 49ers fan, I actually AGREE with that assessment. Physically, he is is a one-of-3 in the league right now. Between the ears, he is a low-rung player and doesn't seem to get why he is not any better than he actually is. He understands not the meaning of the word culpability, and his tendency to throw people under the bus is problematic.
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That is the problem, TO was productive until it was time to pay the fucking piper. As a 49ers fan, I actually AGREE with that assessment. Physically, he is is a one-of-3 in the league right now. Between the ears, he is a low-rung player and doesn't seem to get why he is not any better than he actually is. He understands not the meaning of the word culpability, and his tendency to throw people under the bus is problematic.
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True but all these issues get fixed with age and wisdom. His talent cannot be denied and that's the one thing that cannot be taught. All he needs is a Coach that will hold him accountable, obviously D'antoni is not that guy. He has been known to run away from confrontation. Phil Jackson could fix Dwight's short comings and so could Kevin McHale. You give Dwight a Coach that he respects and his attitude changes. As far as the TO comment goes, I don't fully agree. Dwight has been very productive, even this past year while playing hurt. One more thing, Kobe is also one hell of a cancer, the only difference is that Kobe has won rings but a cancer is a cancer.
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True but all these issues get fixed with age and wisdom. His talent cannot be denied and that's the one thing that cannot be taught. All he needs is a Coach that will hold him accountable, obviously D'antoni is not that guy. He has been known to run away from confrontation. Phil Jackson could fix Dwight's short comings and so could Kevin McHale. You give Dwight a Coach that he respects and his attitude changes. As far as the TO comment goes, I don't fully agree. Dwight has been very productive, even this past year while playing hurt. One more thing, Kobe is also one hell of a cancer, the only difference is that Kobe has won rings but a cancer is a cancer.
How many years, chances and coaches are we giving dude? Dwight wants a system wherein he is the center of attention. Again, as a talent, he has it physically but not mentally. If he did, his footwork in the post and the proper application of the first move - NOT putting the fucking ball below his waist or trying to dribble - would not be so incensingly terrible that I am YELLING at my TV. It has always been his problem, and that is why Shaq keeps shitting on him. Shaq learned the proper moves quickly and applied them. If D12 wants to be mentioned on that level and not "well, he's better than those other bums," then he had damn well better learn to APPLY the shit he is learning in exchange for Hakeem's fee.
I would bother with the Kobe comment if his approach didn't produce tangible results when employed and "told you so" when ignored.
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How many years, chances and coaches are we giving dude? Dwight wants a system wherein he is the center of attention.
Exactly, he actually had a coach that was not a pushover and told him what the fuck he needed to do, Stan Van Gundy. A coach who is a product of the Pat Riley school of thought. That's when Dwight played his best.
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so what the hell are the Pelicans thinking with their logjam at PG and SG?

Greivis Vasquez
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Tyreke Evans
Jrue Holiday
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Ship everyone out and keep the newcomers? Jrue Holiday and Tyreke Evans backcourt?
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so what the hell are the Pelicans thinking with their logjam at PG and SG?

Greivis Vasquez
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Ship everyone out and keep the newcomers? Jrue Holiday and Tyreke Evans backcourt?
Eric Gordon is as good as gone, it is obvious that he never wanted to be there.
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Any thoughts on Josh Smith and where he will end up as a free agent? I wonder if he will really follow Howard to Houston or just end up in Detroit.
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I am of the opinion that for Houston to afford Josh Smith AND Dwight Howard, all while still employing James Harden and Jeremy Lin – and their contracts – the team will be damned by their lack of a bench. It would be the Houston Lakers, lmao.

The beauty of this Dwight Howard situation is that he has openly said that he wanted to do this without coming off as a total dickcheese about it, but from how he left Orlando and now to how noncommittal he has been with the Lakers and on to how he is carrying the next handover, he is being EXACTLY that.
Shit, he might as well g’head and do like The People’s Hairline did and have a “Decision” special on ESPN tonight, then they could do a split screen as he cries while NO ONE burns his jersey or even acts like they give a fuck.
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Eric Gordon is as good as gone, it is obvious that he never wanted to be there.
Looks like they are working a sign and trade with Evans now.

Sacramento -> Vasquez, 2 future draft picks
New Orleans -> Evans, Withey
Portland -> R. Lopez, Harris

I read if Gordon isn't moved, Evans will be backing up the guards, but I don't see NO holding Gordon hostage any longer if he doesn't want to stay. Terrible trade for NO. I think they could package Vasquez with Ryan Anderson to get some frontcourt help if Evans is going to sign with them anyway.
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I hear Detroit's plans are to give Josh Smith and huge contract and resign Calderon. Then they will run with Jose Calderon, Brandon Knight, fill-in SF, Josh Smith, and Greg Monroe.


I think Josh Smith probably fits better in Detroit and Greg Monroe who can pass than another front court guy who is mainly an inside presence (not that it didn't work well with Horford). Josh Smith is better off using his athleticism and size than playing 10-15 feet away from the basket and taking jumpers like he had to do with Horford. Same reasoning goes with why I don't think a Howard/Smith frontcourt will work that well.
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It's funny that I see an equal amount of outcry from LA, Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, and GS fans (Howard's potential destinations) not wanting him with those who welcome him. I am in that boat...

Last night, I heard GS management is planning to clear capspace because they think they can sign Howard. GS is willing to give Boguts expiring $14M, either Barnes or Thompson, and other concessions (draft picks?) in a sign and trade for Howard. (probably a longshot anyways since GS is last of the 5 teams he wants to join and no way LA goes for that if they won't sign and trade him to the Clippers, imo).

Trading away Thompson would defeat the purpose of D12's inside presence with good 3pt shooting. I rather trade Barnes, but I don't want to since we're not going to find a guy like Kawhi Leonard or Paul George to replace him at SF.

The only way I would go after Howard is if we can get Igoudala to replace Barnes, bring some bench guys back, and go for the title BUT I'm not sure if this team can win it all.

Stephen Curry
Klay Thompson
Andre Igoudala
David Lee
Dwight Howard

Jarrett Jack (if resigned)
Carl Landry (if resigned)
Brandon Rush
Festus Ezeli
Draymond Green

The good thing is Bogut's $14M, Richard Jefferson's $11M, and Biedrins' $9M come off the books after this season and we are only on the hook for Curry and Lee's contracts, Thompson and Barne's rookie contracts, plus others at $25M. Got like $50M to spend next season.
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WTF!! I just finished writing that shit and the Warriors actually go after Igoudala!? What the hell are we going to do with Igoudala.. There goes all our spending money... I much rather develop Barnes than have Igoudala at $12M/yr.

If Warriors don't go after Josh Smith and Dwight Howard, this signing is probably wasted and GS probably gave Howard to Houston with this move.

Only have Bogut, Lee, and draft picks to offer. Hope they don't get rid of Thompson, but they might have to and/or package Barnes with some of that. I'm thinking the Lakers will ask for all of that. HAHA
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Looks like Dallas out is out the D12 sweepstakes.

Mavericks out of Dwight Howard sweepstakes - Dallas Mavericks Blog - ESPN Dallas


After digesting this for an hour, I feel that GS still might be a possibility for Howard in one way or another depending if a S&T can get done. I mean, what the alternative to playing with Curry, Igoudala, Thompson/Barnes? Going to TX to avoid paying tate tax and hanging with Harden at strip clubs?
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Hypothetically, Bynum can go to the Lakers right?
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Hypothetically, Bynum can go to the Lakers right?
Lol yes, but that's highly unlikely to occur.

And I'm curious about this meeting that will occur between Mitch and Dwight tonight. I think he's going to turn in his practice gear lmao, but if it's a legit last chance meeting, we shall see.

As much as I want D'Antoni gone, I don't want Dwight thinking he can steam roll over the front office so if this meeting is a last effort attempt to get D'Antoni fired, fuck that.

Dwight and Smith is going to be interesting (if it happens). I'm on the side that says it's going to come up short for the Rockets. I don't see how their games can coexist with each other and neither one are intelligent bball players.

And as for Iggy, if I'm a Warrior fan, I wouldn't be excited about it. They basically dumped a huge contract on a player who is a provider more than anything. I think Barnes slides to the 4 because of this. Hope he does well.

I was hoping the Lakers would do a S&T for Klay, Bogut, Barnes, and a pick for Dwight but obviously, it didn't work out that way.
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Scratch all of that, Dwight is signing with Houston, period.
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This has been YEARS coming...



Dwight ACTUALLY cooked up this scheme to come to the Lakers, tank a season and then leave them worse off than when he arrived.
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