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hellspare · 04-29-2005, 08:31 PM

Hey do Apexi N1 Duals scrape like bumps and stuff on a 97 240 se?
Cuz where I live theres speedbumps before I can get to my parking space. Would it be so low that it would literally SCRAPE against the bump while i'm driving over it? Can anyone give me an idea of how low the exhaust really is?

420sx · 04-29-2005, 08:56 PM

fuck duals. everyone and their grandma has it

420sx · 04-29-2005, 09:01 PM

oh yea.... and they scrape depending how low u are. they do hang low too.

lilredstiffy · 04-29-2005, 09:09 PM

Depends how low your car is. I'd say it has more clearance than most of the giant single canister exhausts. I would suggest making sure you have good exhaust hangers or secure them with hose clamps.

Learning to drive carefully helps the most, you can make it over almost anything if you come at the proper angles.

hellspare · 04-29-2005, 09:22 PM

O.o? Everyone and their grandma have duals? Lol and I was going to pick an exhaust that everyone DIDN'T have... Is it a good exhaust though? I read some really good reviews on it, so I ended up deciding on it. Would it still be pretty low if I DIDN'T lower the car? I mean if I just kept it the way it is stock.

Inland180 · 04-29-2005, 10:22 PM

you shouldnt have any problems with that untill you lower the car

Maeda · 04-29-2005, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420sx

fuck duals. everyone and their grandma has it

I second this.

N1 duals SUCK.

THEY ARE REALLY @#$#@ HEAVY!!!!!!!

The 5 bolt flange scraped even when my car was a 4x4...
The tips scraped a little due to super inclined driveways in socal...

They are really over priced to boot....

Did I mention that they are really heavy?

Get something stainless, lighter, and cheaper.

theicecreamdan · 04-29-2005, 10:44 PM

mine scraped when I was in the 4x4 fastback, but it wasnt anything un manageable. Just becareful about going airborn, I ended up getting a really nasty dent in my piping.

hellspare · 04-29-2005, 11:05 PM

Yeah one big let down was that it is very heavy. I had that in mind when determining to buy one also.. Is there another exhaust on the market that is lighter and have around the same sound? I fell in love with the exhaust because it sounded so sweet. I don't want another civic buzzer.

chrispy · 04-29-2005, 11:11 PM

My S14 is dropped about 2 3/4". I have had 0 problems with scraping my duals.

Maeda · 04-30-2005, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellspare

Yeah one big let down was that it is very heavy. I had that in mind when determining to buy one also.. Is there another exhaust on the market that is lighter and have around the same sound? I fell in love with the exhaust because it sounded so sweet. I don't want another civic buzzer.

ANYTHING is lighter.

Most anything won't give you the civic buzz due to the displacement of the KA...

And for above...

My S13 is droped like 8 inches, and I scrape anything to matter what...
The only thing to do in this case is do what Doriftoslut did and make an exhaust that hangs above the framerails...

hellspare · 04-30-2005, 09:55 PM

Do you guys have any recommendations? Something that is light and durable, but sounds somewhat like the duals at the same time. I heard the clips for like the hks and other exhaust, and they both sounded like crap.

Maeda · 05-01-2005, 01:50 AM

Eh.

How about the GP sports with the slip joints?
EXAs pro or something...

I personally like my 150$ megan racing (all stainless and CHEAP)...

Custom can be pretty cheap and as light and low as you want...

AutoRnD · 05-01-2005, 02:17 AM

hey. i just installed a spec r dual exhaust on a s13.. it was tucked.. and it looks nice.. i think it is great and it is a flanged system.
the spec d is a slip joint.
i've never had any problem w/ slip joints.. but for added protection if you want, weld the 2 pieces together.

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=78062&page=2
click that link for the s13 spec r exhaust installed

TwoFourO · 05-01-2005, 03:49 PM

DO NOT listen to all of these idiots. I have had the Dual N1's for longer than I can remember and I have NEVER EVER scraped them. And yes, my car is lowered. True, I have an S13, but that shouldn't make too much of a difference compared to your S14. Don't let these fools talk you out of something you like just because they don't think it's cool or 'everyone has it.' When it comes to Zilvia, everyone is going to have something you want because it covers the entire f'n country of 240 enthusiasts. I've seen one other 240 in the Seattle area with it and that's all. Buy stuff cause you like it and don't listen to what all these people are saying. You won't scrape unless you drive like a moron or drive through construction sites!!

hellspare · 05-01-2005, 04:08 PM

Aight cool. I have another question. There is both a Na and Turbo version of the n1 duals right? My car is Na so a turbo exhaust wouldn't work. Is the na version as good as an exhaust as the turbo one?

mbmbmb23 · 05-01-2005, 06:41 PM

If it scrapes just get some urethane exhaust hangers or use a hose clamp around the OEM rubber hangers (around the circumference *sp?* ....to draw it up tighter)

-m

Maeda · 05-01-2005, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwoFourO

DO NOT listen to all of these idiots. I have had the Dual N1's for longer than I can remember and I have NEVER EVER scraped them. And yes, my car is lowered.

Car mustn't be low enough =).

This still doesnt change the fact that its really really heavy.

The duals will work well for either a turbo or na, so there is only one version.

hellspare · 05-01-2005, 09:34 PM

Thanks alot both of you guys

. Would the increase in power be higher on na or turbo? I might go kat if the difference is really large.

TwoFourO · 05-01-2005, 09:57 PM

There is only one version and it is great for both applications. It will only make a slight difference on the horsepower with the NA application(as i have) and you probobly won't even notice it. It will however, feel like the engine is much healthier and breathing much easier at higher rpms. I ran this exhause with a 3" straitpipe up until about a month ago and there is definately more low-end torque now that I have the Cat on instead of the strait pipe. There will be a greater increase in power with a turbo as with most performance parts. Good luck hit me up if you have any more questions about the N1 Duals: [email protected]

seksi240 · 05-01-2005, 10:11 PM

The increase in it being a turbo'ed engine would be the main reason for power, not necessarily what specific exhaust you run.

Here they are on my S13 with stock height and 17's.

Just make sure your exhaust hangars are in good shape and you'll be fine. Now once you lower it I dunno how it'll be. I'm just doing sping/shock combo, I couldn't imagine it with coilover drops

projectRDM · 05-01-2005, 10:11 PM

Christ, 19 replies and only one person with any intellect.

It's dual, singular. N1 Dual.

Unless Apex'i is selling you guys exhausts with four or more tips.

hellspare · 05-01-2005, 10:19 PM

Umm...what do you mean?

projectRDM · 05-01-2005, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellspare

Umm...what do you mean?

Thank you for proving my point.

Dual=two. Duals= two sets of two, or more.

English class, 3rd grade.

hellspare · 05-01-2005, 11:02 PM

Ahh okay. So you had to pick out the little details? Apexi duals sound more fluent than just apexi dual.

Dousan_PG · 05-01-2005, 11:07 PM

its heavy as fuck
and it scrapes a lot, poor clearance.
now using custom with mega clearance and a fraction of the cost.

n1 dual?
i had it on my car, s13, tein HEs were maxed out on lowness..it sucks. never would buy it again.

AutoRnD · 05-02-2005, 12:56 AM

yes.. listen to mr dousan...
he may be an ass but he speaks the truth hahaha.
=)
I've seen numerous guys out in nyc running it and they scrape left and right..

hellspare · 05-02-2005, 08:54 AM

Yeah but his car is lowered, like ALL THE WAY. I probably will just lower it a little bit, if at all. Will that still be a problem?

lilredstiffy · 05-02-2005, 09:39 AM

My car is lowered 'all the way', I still have the n1 dual, but it isn't necessarily a pretty sight. The bottom of the two pipes is banged flat, the bottom of the mufflers are banged flat, the hanger on the pipe and then on the resonator are both broken off (the pipe hanger has a sheet of metal welded over the hole), the back of the canisters are sealed with some sort of boat putty, but it still works. No way I'm gonna buy a new exhaust when I can rig this one up still.

But, these are problems you will have with any bolt-on catback, I have friends with blitz nur spec, n1 single, etc and as far as I can tell the single pipe exhausts have a fair bit less clearance. The downside to the n1 dual is the weight, but other than that it sounds nice, feels good with power wise, and id say is 7/10 for quality. Most people's cars aren't ridiculously low, so just put on whatever catback you like, make sure its secure, and just be careful around speed bumps and driveways.

04-29-2005, 08:31 PM	#1
hellspare Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Apexi n1 Duals scrape ground? Hey do Apexi N1 Duals scrape like bumps and stuff on a 97 240 se? Cuz where I live theres speedbumps before I can get to my parking space. Would it be so low that it would literally SCRAPE against the bump while i'm driving over it? Can anyone give me an idea of how low the exhaust really is?

04-29-2005, 08:56 PM	#2
420sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Age: 38 Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 420sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	fuck duals. everyone and their grandma has it __________________ hydropgrahics! ls1......

04-29-2005, 09:01 PM	#3
420sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Age: 38 Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 420sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oh yea.... and they scrape depending how low u are. they do hang low too. __________________ hydropgrahics! ls1......

04-29-2005, 10:22 PM	#6
Inland180 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southern Cali Posts: 1,763 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	you shouldnt have any problems with that untill you lower the car __________________ PTE6262 Full-Race Twin Scroll FTW! Feedback LINK

05-01-2005, 01:50 AM	#13
Maeda Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Camp Snake Bite, CA RIP Posts: 2,356 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Maeda Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Eh. How about the GP sports with the slip joints? EXAs pro or something... I personally like my 150$ megan racing (all stainless and CHEAP)... Custom can be pretty cheap and as light and low as you want... __________________

04-29-2005, 09:09 PM	#4
lilredstiffy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: louisiana Posts: 618 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Depends how low your car is. I'd say it has more clearance than most of the giant single canister exhausts. I would suggest making sure you have good exhaust hangers or secure them with hose clamps. Learning to drive carefully helps the most, you can make it over almost anything if you come at the proper angles.

04-29-2005, 09:22 PM	#5
hellspare Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	O.o? Everyone and their grandma have duals? Lol and I was going to pick an exhaust that everyone DIDN'T have... Is it a good exhaust though? I read some really good reviews on it, so I ended up deciding on it. Would it still be pretty low if I DIDN'T lower the car? I mean if I just kept it the way it is stock.

04-29-2005, 11:05 PM	#9
hellspare Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah one big let down was that it is very heavy. I had that in mind when determining to buy one also.. Is there another exhaust on the market that is lighter and have around the same sound? I fell in love with the exhaust because it sounded so sweet. I don't want another civic buzzer.

04-29-2005, 11:11 PM	#10
chrispy Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 194 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My S14 is dropped about 2 3/4". I have had 0 problems with scraping my duals.

04-30-2005, 09:55 PM	#12
hellspare Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Do you guys have any recommendations? Something that is light and durable, but sounds somewhat like the duals at the same time. I heard the clips for like the hks and other exhaust, and they both sounded like crap.

05-01-2005, 02:17 AM	#14
AutoRnD Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SF BAY AREA, CA Posts: 2,601 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: AutoRnD Feedback Score: 1 reviews	hey. i just installed a spec r dual exhaust on a s13.. it was tucked.. and it looks nice.. i think it is great and it is a flanged system. the spec d is a slip joint. i've never had any problem w/ slip joints.. but for added protection if you want, weld the 2 pieces together. http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=78062&page=2 click that link for the s13 spec r exhaust installed __________________ www.AutoRnD.com Nardi, Enkei, Stance, AME Master Distributors for USA Check Out Our Facebook!

05-01-2005, 03:49 PM	#15
TwoFourO Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 130 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	DO NOT listen to all of these idiots. I have had the Dual N1's for longer than I can remember and I have NEVER EVER scraped them. And yes, my car is lowered. True, I have an S13, but that shouldn't make too much of a difference compared to your S14. Don't let these fools talk you out of something you like just because they don't think it's cool or 'everyone has it.' When it comes to Zilvia, everyone is going to have something you want because it covers the entire f'n country of 240 enthusiasts. I've seen one other 240 in the Seattle area with it and that's all. Buy stuff cause you like it and don't listen to what all these people are saying. You won't scrape unless you drive like a moron or drive through construction sites!!

05-01-2005, 04:08 PM	#16
hellspare Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Aight cool. I have another question. There is both a Na and Turbo version of the n1 duals right? My car is Na so a turbo exhaust wouldn't work. Is the na version as good as an exhaust as the turbo one?

05-01-2005, 06:41 PM	#17
mbmbmb23 Zilvia Contributor Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC. Posts: 1,776 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: mbmbmb23 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	If it scrapes just get some urethane exhaust hangers or use a hose clamp around the OEM rubber hangers (around the circumference sp? ....to draw it up tighter) -m __________________ 400x200

05-01-2005, 09:34 PM	#19
hellspare Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks alot both of you guys . Would the increase in power be higher on na or turbo? I might go kat if the difference is really large.

05-01-2005, 09:57 PM	#20
TwoFourO Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 130 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	There is only one version and it is great for both applications. It will only make a slight difference on the horsepower with the NA application(as i have) and you probobly won't even notice it. It will however, feel like the engine is much healthier and breathing much easier at higher rpms. I ran this exhause with a 3" straitpipe up until about a month ago and there is definately more low-end torque now that I have the Cat on instead of the strait pipe. There will be a greater increase in power with a turbo as with most performance parts. Good luck hit me up if you have any more questions about the N1 Duals: [email protected]

05-01-2005, 10:11 PM	#21
seksi240 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 69 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The increase in it being a turbo'ed engine would be the main reason for power, not necessarily what specific exhaust you run. Here they are on my S13 with stock height and 17's. Just make sure your exhaust hangars are in good shape and you'll be fine. Now once you lower it I dunno how it'll be. I'm just doing sping/shock combo, I couldn't imagine it with coilover drops

05-01-2005, 10:11 PM	#22
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 47 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Christ, 19 replies and only one person with any intellect. It's dual, singular. N1 Dual. Unless Apex'i is selling you guys exhausts with four or more tips. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

05-01-2005, 10:19 PM	#23
hellspare Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Umm...what do you mean?

05-01-2005, 11:02 PM	#25
hellspare Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ahh okay. So you had to pick out the little details? Apexi duals sound more fluent than just apexi dual.

05-01-2005, 11:07 PM	#26
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	its heavy as fuck and it scrapes a lot, poor clearance. now using custom with mega clearance and a fraction of the cost. n1 dual? i had it on my car, s13, tein HEs were maxed out on lowness..it sucks. never would buy it again. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

05-02-2005, 12:56 AM	#27
AutoRnD Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SF BAY AREA, CA Posts: 2,601 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: AutoRnD Feedback Score: 1 reviews	yes.. listen to mr dousan... he may be an ass but he speaks the truth hahaha. =) I've seen numerous guys out in nyc running it and they scrape left and right.. __________________ www.AutoRnD.com Nardi, Enkei, Stance, AME Master Distributors for USA Check Out Our Facebook!

05-02-2005, 08:54 AM	#28
hellspare Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah but his car is lowered, like ALL THE WAY. I probably will just lower it a little bit, if at all. Will that still be a problem?

05-02-2005, 09:39 AM	#29
lilredstiffy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: louisiana Posts: 618 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My car is lowered 'all the way', I still have the n1 dual, but it isn't necessarily a pretty sight. The bottom of the two pipes is banged flat, the bottom of the mufflers are banged flat, the hanger on the pipe and then on the resonator are both broken off (the pipe hanger has a sheet of metal welded over the hole), the back of the canisters are sealed with some sort of boat putty, but it still works. No way I'm gonna buy a new exhaust when I can rig this one up still. But, these are problems you will have with any bolt-on catback, I have friends with blitz nur spec, n1 single, etc and as far as I can tell the single pipe exhausts have a fair bit less clearance. The downside to the n1 dual is the weight, but other than that it sounds nice, feels good with power wise, and id say is 7/10 for quality. Most people's cars aren't ridiculously low, so just put on whatever catback you like, make sure its secure, and just be careful around speed bumps and driveways.

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