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*exitspeed* · 01-12-2010, 09:25 AM

W...T....F....

I seriously don't see this going well. I just don't see how they can do an origin story AGAIN when the first one was only 10 years ago and it was so good.

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January 11, 2010 - Damn, Sam Raimi, you've made us proud. As much as we're sorry to see you go, we respect the fact that you've stuck to your guns and told Sony to stick their webs where the sun don't shine.

That's right, folks. Sam Raimi has left the Spider-Man franchise, which essentially means that Spider-Man 4 is no more and the wallcrawler is now getting a from-scratch reboot from the studio instead. Tobey Maguire is also done with the red and blue suit, and in fact Sony is saying (via Twitter) that the reboot will go back to high school with the character and be released in 2012.

Deadline Hollywood's Nikki Finke had the story first, saying that "Mike Fleming and I have just confirmed that Sony Pictures decided today to reboot the Spider-Man franchise after franchise director Sam Raimi pulled out of Spider-Man 4 because he felt he couldn't make its summer release date and keep the film's creative integrity. This means that Raimi and the cast including star Tobey Maguire are out. There will be no Spider-Man 4. Instead, Mike Fleming is told, the studio will focus on a reboot script by Jamie Vanderbilt with a new director and a new cast. All this took place ... at [a] meeting on the lot today."

DH goes on to say that Raimi insisted he couldn't make Sony's date or "go forward creatively. And, so, once he said 'That's it,' Sony Pictures co-chairman [Amy] Pascal and Columbia Pictures' Matt Tolmach decided they didn't want to replace him and instead chose to reboot the franchise." Points to Sony for making the smart choice here.

We've got a call in to Sony right now and we'll update here as soon as we hear back from them! But, dang, this is a big one.

UPDATED: Here is Sony's official statement on the reboot: "Peter Parker is going back to high school when the next Spider-Man hits theaters in the summer of 2012. Columbia Pictures and Marvel Studios announced today they are moving forward with a film based on a script by James Vanderbilt that focuses on a teenager dealing with both contemporary human problems and amazing super-human crises. The new chapter in the Spider-Man franchise produced by Columbia, Marvel Studios and Avi Arad and Laura Ziskin, will have a new cast and filmmaking team. Spider-Man 4 was to have been released in 2011, but had not yet gone into production.

"A decade ago we set out on this journey with Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire and together we made three Spider-Man films that set a new bar for the genre. When we began, no one ever imagined that we would make history at the box-office and now we have a rare opportunity to make history once again with this franchise. Peter Parker as an ordinary young adult grappling with extraordinary powers has always been the foundation that has made this character so timeless and compelling for generations of fans. We're very excited about the creative possibilities that come from returning to Peter's roots and we look forward to working once again with Marvel Studios, Avi Arad and Laura Ziskin on this new beginning," said Amy Pascal, co-chairman of Sony Pictures Entertainment.

"Working on the Spider-Man movies was the experience of a lifetime for me. While we were looking forward to doing a fourth one together, the studio and Marvel have a unique opportunity to take the franchise in a new direction, and I know they will do a terrific job," said Sam Raimi.

"We have had a once-in-a-lifetime collaboration and friendship with Sam and Tobey and they have given us their best for the better part of the last decade.This is a bittersweet moment for us because while it is hard to imagine Spider-Man in anyone else's hands, I know that this was a day that was inevitable," said Matt Tolmach, president of Columbia Pictures, who has served as the studio's chief production executive since the beginning of the franchise. "Now everything begins anew, and that's got us all tremendously excited about what comes next. Under the continuing supervision of Avi and Laura, we have a clear vision for the future of Spider-Man and can't wait to share this exciting new direction with audiences in 2012."

"Spider-Man will always be an important franchise for Sony Pictures and a fresh start like this is a responsibility that we all take very seriously," said Michael Lynton, Chairman and CEO of Sony Pictures. "We have always believed that story comes first and story guides the direction of these films. As we move onto the next chapter, we will stay true to that principle and will do so with the highest respect for the source material and the fans and moviegoers who deserve nothing but the best when it comes to bringing these stories and characters to life on the big screen."

The studio will have more news about Spider-Man in 2012 in the coming weeks as it prepares for production of the film

***enkei2k*** · 01-12-2010, 09:30 AM

weak! what's up with MJ though? still Kristen Dunst? ...probably not since they going back in time... *cries

Daniel. · 01-12-2010, 10:03 AM

Kirsten Dunst was the WORST MJ ever. I hated what Raimi turned Spidey into by the third installment.

The really hope they do this franchise right this time around. (I liked the first and second spidey movies, but the third just really left this sour taste in my mouth.)

*exitspeed* · 01-12-2010, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel.

Kirsten Dunst was the WORST MJ ever. I hated what Raimi turned Spidey into by the third installment.

The really hope they do this franchise right this time around. (I liked the first and second spidey movies, but the third just really left this sour taste in my mouth.)

I agree with you. The first two were really good, but the third just SUCKED.

I just don't see them being able to top the first movie.

ronmcdon · 01-12-2010, 10:14 AM

I don't think ppl are going to take too kindly to the whole re-boot thing.
As much as I didn't care too much for the 3rd installment,
I was hoping to see how things developed from there onwards.

Sucks when corporate politics gets in the way of things.
Oh well, I guess the whole super-hero thing has run it's course anyhow.
This isn't good/

flip3d · 01-12-2010, 11:28 AM

It's done. Why more Spiderman? Move on to something else. Geez.

RurouniMidnight · 01-12-2010, 11:46 AM

Wow horrible, give it up already, i personally like spiderman in general and the first movie but starting back at the time of the first movie and remaking another one cmon.

Killa_D · 01-12-2010, 12:09 PM

I thought the same about the Hulk but the reboot of that was fucking gr8 and loved it. I cant wait to see what it will look like a. Also people what about the reboot of Batman? I mean c'mon how can you really compare the old batman flicks to the 2 new ones. So with that said Reboots are not bad.

*exitspeed* · 01-12-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Killa_D

I thought the same about the Hulk but the reboot of that was fucking gr8 and loved it. I cant wait to see what it will look like a. Also people what about the reboot of Batman? I mean c'mon how can you really compare the old batman flicks to the 2 new ones. So with that said Reboots are not bad.

Yeah but the first Hulk movie was not good like the Spiderman movie.

ronmcdon · 01-12-2010, 12:18 PM

None of Ang Lee's movies are any good imo.
(guy who made Brokeback Mtn)

SochBAT · 01-12-2010, 01:03 PM

I'm actually rooting for this.

I'm crossing my fingers, although highly unlikely, that the new director will stick similarly to the source.

One thing that REALLY peeved me, albeit small detail to some of you, were his web shooting skills.

He's a fucking nerd. He couldn't have learned the knowhow to create that synthetic spidersilk? He couldn't have fashioned quality web shooters that allowed for different spraying types?

Spidey having grown a set of webshooters instead of making them would be like Wolverine having a fucking adamantium transfused into his blood instead of fused bones.

Granted, the first Spidey movie was well done, but the second they do DoubleVillains really fucks shit up. 3 AND 2 were steaming piles of shit.

BustedS13 · 01-12-2010, 01:04 PM

thank fucking god.

now maybe Raimi can make something starring Bruce Campbell again.

SochBAT · 01-12-2010, 01:10 PM

Or Raimi can just jump off a cliff.

BruceCampbell, on the otherhand, is fucking amazing.

Anyone watch his movie, "I am Bruce?"

I think thats what its called.

***Future240*** · 01-12-2010, 01:15 PM

Thinking about the last trainwreck of a movie makes this is less upsetting. Not to sold on the high school re-shoot either. I can just imagine a bunch of whiney high school drama in a movie like that.

I say leave it where it is.

Dead.

BustedS13 · 01-12-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Soooshi

Or Raimi can just jump off a cliff.

BruceCampbell, on the otherhand, is fucking amazing.

Anyone watch his movie, "I am Bruce?"

I think thats what its called.

Evil Dead 2 is far and away my favorite horror comedy of all time, you bite your tongue

and Campbell hasn't been in anything worth time watching since Jack of All Trades.

SochBAT · 01-12-2010, 01:33 PM

Damn. I just found out Raimi is tied to the Warcraft movie. Shit.

Anywho, I think he needs to step away from source materials and go original.

BustedS13 · 01-12-2010, 01:35 PM

he did Drag Me To Hell last summer, and aside from being PG-13, it was pretty good. needed more splatter, though.

***Future240*** · 01-12-2010, 01:38 PM

^Hm, might check it out then.

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Damn. I just found out Raimi is tied to the Warcraft movie. Shit.

Anywho, I think he needs to step away from source materials and go original.

A warcraft movie.........

ronmcdon · 01-12-2010, 01:49 PM

'Drag Me To Hell' was a fun-loving family comedy.
it prob had to go pg-13 make $.
was like watching an 'evil dead' light.

still, i enjoyed it.

SochBAT · 01-12-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by future240

A warcraft movie.........

The same is said about Lord the the Rings/StarWars/StarTrek/any other thrill-ogy.

"It actually has a rich background, all well developed."

*exitspeed* · 01-12-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ronmcdon

None of Ang Lee's movies are any good imo.
(guy who made Brokeback Mtn)

You can say this about Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon?

BustedS13 · 01-12-2010, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

You can say this about Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon?

i fucking HATE Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. it's as bad as that fucking Hulk movie.
honestly i think Ang Lee's BEST movie was Brokeback Mountain. YEAH I SAID IT.

ronmcdon · 01-12-2010, 02:20 PM

I really didn't care for that Crouching Tiger at all.
I thought it was one of the most over-rated Chinese films of all time.
It just didn't deliver as a martial arts film,
nor quite exactly as a drama.

Comparable films like 'Hero' and 'House of Flying Daggers' (dir. Zhang Yimou),
to me at least were much better done.

Some ppl like Ang Lee's films, and he's not the worst director by far.
I just think his films come across as being tedious and ring hollow as far as dramatic and technical substance.
To each and their own.

If I had to choose Ang Lee's best film,
it would probably be the Ice Storm (which is technically well made, even if painfully dry)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ice_Storm_%28film%29

atom · 01-12-2010, 04:52 PM

Ang Lee's best movie was Eat Drink Man Woman.........

I blame Twilight. Marvel wants that lucrative tweener audience so they're putting him back in high school. Rob Pattenson as young Peter Parker = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Think about it. Combine the tweener girl romance audience with the comic book nerd audience and that's a guaranteed blockbuster, assuming the movie doesn't totally blow.

**ThatGuy** · 01-12-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BustedS13

and Campbell hasn't been in anything worth time watching since Jack of All Trades.

Burn Notice on USA. Bruce is GREAT!

Additionally... Spidey 3 SUCKED, and I honestly wasn't "blown away" by 1 or 2.

My confidence is not high for this reboot.

Bubbles · 01-12-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by future240

A warcraft movie.........

I'm curious now.

Won't be out for a while, according to imdb.

I think it will have to be seen regardless of how horrible it may be.

***Future240*** · 01-12-2010, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubbles

I'm curious now.

Won't be out for a while, according to imdb.

I think it will have to be seen regardless of how horrible it may be.

I must know the logic behind this.

spoolandslide · 01-12-2010, 09:06 PM

I think they should cast Michael Cera as Peter Parker.

- Your thoughts.

Bubbles · 01-12-2010, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by future240

I must know the logic behind this.

Logic?

I defied that bitch a long time ago.

BustedS13 · 01-13-2010, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ThatGuy

Additionally... Spidey 3 SUCKED, and I honestly wasn't "blown away" by 1 or 2.

My confidence is not high for this reboot.

same. i remember everybody making a big deal out of xmen and spiderman when they came out, and i wasn't impressed... then the Batman reboot came along and changed the game, finally making a superhero movie that didn't look like cartoon bullshit. i hope they do the same to Spiderman, and maybe make a character i give a shit about.

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*enkei2k* Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: over the river and through the woods Age: 36 Posts: 7,160 Trader Rating: (29) Feedback Score: 29 reviews	weak! what's up with MJ though? still Kristen Dunst? ...probably not since they going back in time... *cries __________________ Ask enkei2k xquizitditz

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Daniel. Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 36 Posts: 3,713 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Daniel. Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Kirsten Dunst was the WORST MJ ever. I hated what Raimi turned Spidey into by the third installment. The really hope they do this franchise right this time around. (I liked the first and second spidey movies, but the third just really left this sour taste in my mouth.) __________________

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flip3d Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ft Lauderdale, FL Age: 33 Posts: 1,473 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	It's done. Why more Spiderman? Move on to something else. Geez. __________________

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RurouniMidnight Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston TX Age: 38 Posts: 1,245 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Wow horrible, give it up already, i personally like spiderman in general and the first movie but starting back at the time of the first movie and remaking another one cmon. __________________ http://nightparade.wordpress.com/ Join in on instagram @nightparade

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BustedS13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix AZ Age: 36 Posts: 10,287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thank fucking god. now maybe Raimi can make something starring Bruce Campbell again. __________________

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ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I don't think ppl are going to take too kindly to the whole re-boot thing. As much as I didn't care too much for the 3rd installment, I was hoping to see how things developed from there onwards. Sucks when corporate politics gets in the way of things. Oh well, I guess the whole super-hero thing has run it's course anyhow. This isn't good/

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Killa_D Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: nowhere Posts: 1,463 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	I thought the same about the Hulk but the reboot of that was fucking gr8 and loved it. I cant wait to see what it will look like a. Also people what about the reboot of Batman? I mean c'mon how can you really compare the old batman flicks to the 2 new ones. So with that said Reboots are not bad.

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ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	None of Ang Lee's movies are any good imo. (guy who made Brokeback Mtn)

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SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	I'm actually rooting for this. I'm crossing my fingers, although highly unlikely, that the new director will stick similarly to the source. One thing that REALLY peeved me, albeit small detail to some of you, were his web shooting skills. He's a fucking nerd. He couldn't have learned the knowhow to create that synthetic spidersilk? He couldn't have fashioned quality web shooters that allowed for different spraying types? Spidey having grown a set of webshooters instead of making them would be like Wolverine having a fucking adamantium transfused into his blood instead of fused bones. Granted, the first Spidey movie was well done, but the second they do DoubleVillains really fucks shit up. 3 AND 2 were steaming piles of shit.

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SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Or Raimi can just jump off a cliff. BruceCampbell, on the otherhand, is fucking amazing. Anyone watch his movie, "I am Bruce?" I think thats what its called.

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SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Damn. I just found out Raimi is tied to the Warcraft movie. Shit. Anywho, I think he needs to step away from source materials and go original.

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BustedS13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix AZ Age: 36 Posts: 10,287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	he did Drag Me To Hell last summer, and aside from being PG-13, it was pretty good. needed more splatter, though. __________________

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ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	'Drag Me To Hell' was a fun-loving family comedy. it prob had to go pg-13 make $. was like watching an 'evil dead' light. still, i enjoyed it.

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ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I really didn't care for that Crouching Tiger at all. I thought it was one of the most over-rated Chinese films of all time. It just didn't deliver as a martial arts film, nor quite exactly as a drama. Comparable films like 'Hero' and 'House of Flying Daggers' (dir. Zhang Yimou), to me at least were much better done. Some ppl like Ang Lee's films, and he's not the worst director by far. I just think his films come across as being tedious and ring hollow as far as dramatic and technical substance. To each and their own. If I had to choose Ang Lee's best film, it would probably be the Ice Storm (which is technically well made, even if painfully dry) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ice_Storm_%28film%29

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atom Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,196 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ang Lee's best movie was Eat Drink Man Woman......... I blame Twilight. Marvel wants that lucrative tweener audience so they're putting him back in high school. Rob Pattenson as young Peter Parker = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Think about it. Combine the tweener girl romance audience with the comic book nerd audience and that's a guaranteed blockbuster, assuming the movie doesn't totally blow.

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