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Old 01-05-2011, 08:43 PM   #1
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Cops Gone Wild

please be civil. if you post "fuck the police" you're part of the problem, kthx?

video of a cop in my city beating the shit out of some dude is making the rounds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyZHWtcooJI

a couple years ago this classic happened, this is in a municipality between my house and the highway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B_yw1iYKpA
(lol he's listening to the tokyo drift soundtrack)

there was this great thread on a cop forum about how that kid shouldn't have been taping and blah blah blah. he went to my high school, said for a week or better after the incident he'd see cops parked outside his house for whatever reason.

anybody have more cops on video they'd like to share? anybody in law enforcement care to voice their opinion?

i know that the police have a tough job. i know that any person you pull over could have a gun and be ready to start shooting (look up the Dinkheller shooting, or better yet, don't, it's pretty horrible). but this kind of shit for not presenting a completely limp, willing attitude, i don't really think is acceptable.
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should have put in the thread that hope people dont go crazy over this and get this thread locked..


anyways, that first video is tough, and his friends or whoever where just chillin to watch it happen. If i was there I would have pulled the cop off him.. they have video proof so i mean if someone pulled the cop off him, they where just defending the victim. But im sure you put a hand on a cop and your in trouble.
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But im sure you put a hand on a cop and your in trouble.
you'd get tasered, beaten, and have to make bail. and without a video (who knows if the guys outside the car knew it was being taped), you'd be dealing with assault charges, too. maybe somebody at least asking him if it was really necessary would have been nice, but yeah, that cop has a gun. if he wants to go apeshit on your friend, that's just something you're going to have to watch, unfortunately

here's the news article about video 1:

Video shows beating by St. Louis police officer

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ST. LOUIS • Police said today that officers who use force are required to prepare reports explaining their actions and who was injured or killed.
No report was filed and no arrest made in the New Year's Day incident involving a patrolman videotaped hitting a man with a baton and spraying him with pepper spray, police have said.
The police department said it is investigating why no reports were filled out detailing what happened. Police said internal affairs detectives are trying to interview everyone involved in the 2:30 a.m. encounter at a Shell gas station at 1815 Arsenal Street.
The gas station owner identified the patrolman as Dustin Ries, 37, who he said was off-duty and providing security from a substation on the property. Police said the officer was put on administrative duty Tuesday, though the department has refused to identify him or discuss details of the incident unless the investigation results in charges or disciplinary action.
Ries, who could not be reached Wednesday, received two one-day suspension from separate department rule violations in 2005, a police spokeswoman said. She would not disclose details of the incidents but said they were not the result of citizen complaints.
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I would never let my friend get attacked like that by a cop. I sure hope that kid did something pretty serious to get that treatment.
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you wanna try me? YOU WANNA TRY ME TONIGHT? they're both ridiculous. as much as i respect law enforcements, there are the few dirty ones out there. disgusting
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Theyre all just pigs to me anyways...And I dont want to hear shit for saying that because ive been ruffed up by cops before too..
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The video of a cop beating a guy in diabetic shock came out this week too.

Video: Ohio police use Tazer seven times on driver in diabetic shock, dislocate his shoulder — Autoblog
Lawsuit: Diabetic 'pummeled,' shocked by Hamilton County deputies | cincinnati.com | Cincinnati.Com
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east saint louis officers killed a guy by tazer a while back. i really think the billy club and stern language should make a comeback.

BREAKING NEWS: Officers cleared of wrongdoing in Taser death | taser, death, officers - Top Stories - The Telegraph
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i sure as hell would want to do something to help my friend too. and as long as i knew someone was video taping it i would (if my friend was innocent.. haha). otherwise, you touch a officer and your ass is grass.

second video, you can obviously see his turn signals. good way to ruin a douche bags career.. and yes i know a cops life is difficult. so is mine you choose your job, so did i. just because you see the lowest of the low doesnt mean your allowed become immoral. and if you reach that point, you need to retire.
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he did use his turn signal.
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I love how most people on Zilvia and most other car forums post only the few "bad" cops, yet never praise the rest of the millions of good cops who are out protecting your guy's ass day in and day out. with little to no thanks from any of you, yet your all quick to say.

"fuck the police."
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I love how most people on Zilvia and most other car forums post only the few "bad" cops, yet never praise the rest of the millions of good cops who are out protecting your guy's ass day in and day out. with little to no thanks from any of you, yet your all quick to say.

"fuck the police."
hey, feel free to make a thread jerking off people who do the job they signed up for.
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I love how most people on Zilvia and most other car forums post only the few "bad" cops, yet never praise the rest of the millions of good cops who are out protecting your guy's ass day in and day out. with little to no thanks from any of you, yet your all quick to say.

"fuck the police."
unfortunately when there is power and money involved ( the money we pay to them) one bad cop will make the whole law enforcement look awfully bad, the reason why is such a big deal when one cop goes above the law is because we respect them and hold them to a different standard with that said,

i think cops you should be held on a totally different level when they mess up something like Army standards it is such a BS when you hear about a cop shooting somebody that is innocent then they keep on the DL for a couple of months "investigating" and later down the road some judge rules out the case saying that " it was JUSTIFIED "

just a side note.- Cops changed their names from " Peace Officers " to " LAW ENFORCEMENT " this means they wont take care of you! they here to enforce city laws, actually a cop dont even have to help you if you are in danger unless there is a city ordinance or law being broken
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I love how most people on Zilvia and most other car forums post only the few "bad" cops, yet never praise the rest of the millions of good cops who are out protecting your guy's ass day in and day out. with little to no thanks from any of you, yet your all quick to say.

"fuck the police."
Yes.


Fuck them ALL.

If I am FORCED to give up my rights to someone else they have to prove themselves to me. Until then . . .
They literally are organized crime and if you try to muscle in or go against them they will crack your head.


I have not once had any law enforcement officer to a single good thing for me or a family member or friend.
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Yeah the law enforcement these days is soo corrupt. Theres always that officer that thinks that badge give him the right to do what ever they want.. really that badge just protects them from getting a real ass kicking.
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Yeah the law enforcement these days is soo corrupt. Theres always that officer that thinks that badge give him the right to do what ever they want.. really that badge just protects them from getting a real ass kicking.
this. there are plunty of good reasons for police to use force. But so many are fucking corrupt so they have a bad night and go out looking to fuck people over for hardly any reason. or to "make a point/ example" out of a young person.

COPS ARE NOT HEROES. They signed up to do a job to protect and serve civilians. some rice rocket in a empty lot or drunk guy in a car mouthing off does not warrent force to that degree. I thank those few officers who do a great job on a day to day and use the force they have been allowed when its actually needed.

The state governments and police force have it so fucked up in the system that they can basically get away with tons of shit they shouldnt be able to. (different debate for a different tim)
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COPS ARE NOT HEROES. They signed up to do a job to protect and serve civilians.
Actually, they are there to uphold the city's laws, not necessarily (or directly) protect civilians.

There are assholes in every job, be it behind a desk or a badge. But when you're allowed to use force to subdue someone there are going to be haters.

Regarding the posting of cop-bash-videos as opposed to videos praising them, it's shock value. Of course people will glance over the praising videos because they expect these people to do their jobs.

If people are so angry over an individual cop's actions, they should do whatever they can to get justice. The badge doesn't give power, it gives a title which the community upholds, until they begin abusing it.
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Actually, they are there to uphold the city's laws, not necessarily (or directly) protect civilians.
not according to the LAPD

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not according to the LAPD

Serve what? Justice (with judiciary help of course). Protect what? Laws...
It sucks to know, especially since all of our adolescent lives we were told to believe so. An officer's decision to defend you is at his own discretion. All the more reason to protect our dwindling 2nd amendment, but that's for another discussion
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My stepdad's a very high ranking la sherriff and you wouldn't believe the stories I've heard of what other leo's are capable of, after the years and adding up information I would say over 80% of people who have power abuse it.

I have a lot of respect for my family members and their close friends who serve law enforcement so don't get it mixed up.

If there's any advice I can offer car enthusiasts, its to research your rights and always remember the police do have a quota for tickets.
It's funny that you say they have a quota for tickets, when not all stations have quotas. So maybe you should be more specific. And usually it is the higher up ones that are the corrupt ones

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Show me a case where a cop has made it on scene to do anything other than write a report up? They dont come to anyones defense, they come to the aftermath.
It wouldn't be news if the news didn't have someone to make look bad, obviously they aren't going to report every good thing that the cops do, it doesn't get the station ratings, what gets them ratings is all the publicity from a few fucked up cops. Not to mention cops can't be everywhere at once, you wouldn't believe some of the stupid things people call for(like little Johnny won't listen to his mother and go to sleep) and other bullshit. Nobody needs to show you the good things they do, you can look for yourself, hell some of the idiots on here that street drift and shit are part of the problem and it makes me laugh when they get busted and bitch about it, what if one of those dumbasses runs into an innocent bystander or bike rider? Good thing the cops busted them, but then someone will say "Can't you go fight real crime." I could rant for hours on your post but I'll leave it at that for now.

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this. there are plunty of good reasons for police to use force. But so many are fucking corrupt so they have a bad night and go out looking to fuck people over for hardly any reason. or to "make a point/ example" out of a young person.

COPS ARE NOT HEROES. They signed up to do a job to protect and serve civilians. some rice rocket in a empty lot or drunk guy in a car mouthing off does not warrent force to that degree. I thank those few officers who do a great job on a day to day and use the force they have been allowed when its actually needed.

The state governments and police force have it so fucked up in the system that they can basically get away with tons of shit they shouldnt be able to. (different debate for a different tim)
I wouldn't say its so many that are corrupt, but more of its the corrupt ones that get media attention, which you watch, get angry and percieve all cops to be bad because of the media. Keep being sheep to the media.

And for you to say cops are not heroes, would you feel the same if they saved your life? Do you feel the same about firemen, doctors, military, etc.?Yes they all signed up for those jobs but it certainly takes a different kind of person to put someone elses life in your hands. You can bitch about it while you sit on your ass but it doesn't change the fact that those jobs are certainly more difficult and require alot more work than your daily routine.

I do however agree that police and government have too much power, but that is because we have allowed them to do so.

On a side note I noticed alot of these videos are dealing with cops in the midwest, is that most cops you guys run into out there or what?
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I wouldn't say its so many that are corrupt, but more of its the corrupt ones that get media attention, which you watch, get angry and percieve all cops to be bad because of the media. Keep being sheep to the media.
right im a sheep to the media. Sir you dont know a thing about me. i severly hate and disagree with almost all television news providers both on their content and their aims. I dont percieve all cops as being bad, i very blantly said i know there is good cops out there that do a great job and i thank them for that. As far as watching videos and getting mad? no, no, no my good sir videos and articles only strengthen my perception i have gained from being profiled numerous times for the car i drive. I dont talk back to cops ever cause i know they can do whatever the fuck they want more or less and thats what pisses me off. I cant ask a simple question without being angry or claim anything except guilt to a cop without risk of being beaten and yelled at (and called a boy and other purpesfully degrading comments). Before you say oh he must be a ricer running around speeding and difting thats why cops are rough on him. No im a medical courier never been pulled over for drifting and only had 1 speeding ticket in 5 years. Yet ive been pulled over maybe 50+ times simply for them to try to find something to ticket me with for having a slammed, stickered ricer. I know right if i dont like it change me, well thats bullshit pure and simple TOO MANY even if that is a small amount of cops are abusing their power and states protect them PERIOD.

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And for you to say cops are not heroes, would you feel the same if they saved your life? Do you feel the same about firemen, doctors, military, etc.?Yes they all signed up for those jobs but it certainly takes a different kind of person to put someone elses life in your hands. You can bitch about it while you sit on your ass but it doesn't change the fact that those jobs are certainly more difficult and require alot more work than your daily routine.
i highly doubt a cop could do much more life saving then i can do myself.
firemen yes heroes they run into burning building soley to rescue people, heroic for sure.
doctors in certain circumstances yes maybe, but they are more of a civilian that has good medical training to help people. So a civilian saving someone cause they have the ability yet they dont have to, yes could be heroic. Military? well i have numerous friends in the military and while yes i do thnk they deserve respect and thanks in most cases, but they will be the first to agree with me they are simply doing a job and they dont consider themselves heroes. They are humble about it something the police could learn. i dont agree with our governments use of them all the time and there are still corruptions in the military for sure that i obviously dont agree with. Military personal can perform heroic actions but in a civilian setting so can any of us.
If i wanted to be a cop i could pure and simple so dont say i can bitch while i sit on my ass. the truth is i wouldnt make it in the cop world cause i wouldnt act like many of them do just to make money. thus most cops would probably not like me and thus i would not move up their state (corprorate) structure into making more money, better postions blah blah.


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I do however agree that police and government have too much power, but that is because we have allowed them to do so.
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On a side note I noticed alot of these videos are dealing with cops in the midwest, is that most cops you guys run into out there or what?
this may be why we have different views, but yes cops out here are rediculous. I have only been pulled over a handful of times (2 of 3 out of about 35-40 having a car pull up on me) and have it be a pleasant experience. I'd say 2 of these times however it was highway partol. Note i still got a ticket one of these nice times but the cop was cool and when i asked what i did wrong he didnt flip and simply explained and i went on my way.
Every other time i was talked to in a stern manner and wasnt allowed to say much with out getting a warning or something from the officer.
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i respect cops for the job that they have to do, but sometimes theres that one guy who has a power trip because they have a badge. just about every cop that i have encountered has been cool.
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i work pretty close with cops here where i work at (won't disclose locations or work). they all think they are greater than a human being, the mentality is more of: i got the gun and badge and u ain't got shit. therefore i can do whatever and most likely get away with it.

not once, i open a newspaper and not read about a cop killing someone wrongfully, or beating someone up, and raping and etc.

its fucking pathetic that i have to be afraid of someone who is suppose to help me or us. thats their job to protect and serve, but they are not close to doing any of those.

there are some cool one however, not all of them are bad. but the majority of them got balls and must be high of their ass thinking they can treat regular people like fucking cattle and shit. fuck those bastards!
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People are assholes plain and simple. It doesnt matter if you're a cop or not. Dont tell a cop to shut up and you wont get your ass beat. I think if cops were allowed to beat the shit out of people there would be less crime. If you say fuck the police, than dont dial 911 when you're getting robbed.
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^there is a difference between saying fuck corruption and fuck all police. i bet in most cases people are saying fuck corrupt power drunk cops/ people who can have authority over you. abuse of power is a scary thing and honestly you cant just let it go unchecked.

also on the whole "dont tell a cop to shut up". yeah if you talk back or disrespect a cop is fully justified on tearing you a new one, but asking real questions like that kid did in a non threatening tone does not warrent getting chewed out or beat lol. if you think that is acceptable your insane. You are not auto guilty as much as cops would have you believe, but like that cop that was screaming simple put it "talk back again and ill find a reason for you to go to jail" its bs but so true and the cops own admission of it when he knows full well he is on tape is scary very scary. they think they can do what they want. this should not be the case.
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I though in the video he started back talking thats why to cop went off, i cant really hear shit. I respect cops, because they deal with fucking assholes all day long. So yea they can go off the handle once in a while. You expect cops to be all perfect when most of you at work are probably surfing zilvia and not doing your job. I dont know, this whole cop beating thing is out of control.

The same asshole that probably kicked your ass in high school is probably a cop now, its not hard at all to become one, plus they are in need of cops. Maybe there should be higher standards when they're hiring assholes.
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Man killed by Long Beach police was holding water nozzle, not gun | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times

This happened recently in long beach. Dude was ambushed by the police because they thought his water hose nozzle was a gun. This happened at 4:40, so it wasn't even that dark. With no warning, a man on his family's property was murdered for holding a water hose gun...

There are way too many accounts of stupid mistakes and plain out abuse of power by the police. The fact that some of them get away with it makes it sad. Police are here to enforce laws (some just some unjust), but they are never above it. Even when they break the traffic laws they deserve to be punished. Citizens get punished for them, why shouldn't the police?

Honestly, there should not be so many laws that need to be enforced by the police.

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I though in the video he started back talking thats why to cop went off, i cant really hear shit. I respect cops, because they deal with fucking assholes all day long. So yea they can go off the handle once in a while. You expect cops to be all perfect when most of you at work are probably surfing zilvia and not doing your job. I dont know, this whole cop beating thing is out of control.
Dude...Seriously??? So they can go"off the handle" and kill someone? They are allowed to do that?


And if I was in that first video, I don't know what I would have done. If I knew there was a video being made I might have jumped in and get hit a couple times and make of couple million dollars. lol.
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people react in different situations some are power trippers. i try to stay away from those type.
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My stepdad's a very high ranking la sherriff and you wouldn't believe the stories I've heard of what other leo's are capable of, after the years and adding up information I would say over 80% of people who have power abuse it.

I've had cops try to make me confess to false statements with stupid trick questions, just a heads up to anyone answer either YES / NO or not answer it at all.

(story below was from the past-different mindset and all that good stuff, keep it off the streets)

I was pulled over for exhibition of speed/reckless driving when my girlfriend and I were doing some tandem figure 8s near my buddys old shop. To cut the story short, the officer kept trying to trick my girlfriend into answering questions to help his case if he were ever against me in court.

He would ask Does your boyfriend always drive like that? What kind of speeds were you going while you guys were racing? = Questions that bait you into saying something.

I yelled at her to keep her mouth shut and she did. I won my case - private property FTW.

Police play that I'm your friend game, no officer is your friend while you are being pulled over or investigated.

I have a lot of respect for my family members and their close friends who serve law enforcement so don't get it mixed up.

If there's any advice I can offer car enthusiasts, its to research your rights and always remember the police do have a quota for tickets.
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