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sodel_s13 · 05-31-2011, 09:59 AM

I have s13 hatch w/ rota grids, 17x9.5 +12 with federal ss 205/40/17. I got a bit of stretch on those rims, i have pulled fenders also. Im maxed out on my megan steet coils, removed collars and all that good stuff.

Still can't get it to tuck tire as i want. Before pulling and rolling i was able to tuck almost to the rim's lip, but i had a huge amount of negative camber.

So does rear over fenders sit lower than oem ones? My other option is to get pbm subframe raisers, but that will only give me .5 ich lower.

Need advice.

PoorMans180SX · 05-31-2011, 10:03 AM

You have 2 options.

Get shorter swift springs.

Or buy new coilovers.

sodel_s13 · 05-31-2011, 11:03 AM

well i guess springs falls out, because i cannot physically lower the shock body. its bottomed out. But having the raised subframe would help a little.

thoughts on raising the subframe?

future · 05-31-2011, 11:19 AM

Just get new coils

GoToast · 05-31-2011, 04:27 PM

http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/296725...on-thread.html

SPL has the has subframe risers like you said.

But I would advise on better coilovers.
Something with a longer threaded shockbody. If your not going to try shorter springs.

*Wake* · 05-31-2011, 04:34 PM

If you think getting shorter springs wouldnt help. Then you need to stop trying to be hella flush with knock offs and start over with a different car altogether. as in not a 240sx.

Otherwise, do as you have been told.
/Thread

curbhuggerrps13 · 05-31-2011, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakebhr

if you think getting shorter springs wouldnt help. Then you need to stop trying to be hella flush with knock offs and start over with a different car altogether. As in not a 240sx.

Otherwise, do as you have been told.
/thread

hellaflush

*Wake* · 05-31-2011, 04:46 PM

oh im sorry was there supposed to be no space in between?

future · 05-31-2011, 04:51 PM

Hellaflush=helladumb

ericcastro · 05-31-2011, 04:54 PM

even my godspeeds go lower then that, lol.
They just about touch rim, lol

bookoo · 05-31-2011, 04:56 PM

Pbm coils

/thread

fckillerbee · 05-31-2011, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by future

Hellaflush=helladumb

WOW....this is coming from a 18 year old. The world is coming to an end!

drift freaq · 05-31-2011, 05:10 PM

Guys he has 205/40's on 9.5's lol he could jump up to a 225 still be stretched and fill his well better. Shit I ran 225/45's on 9's and they had stretch on a 9.5 they would have even more stretch.

He could probably even go 235/40 on a 9.5 and still have a little stretch. section width on a 205/40 is 8 inchs, which pretty much means its for an 8 inch wheel with normal straight up sidewalls.
That means he is stretching his tires 1.5 inches lol.

Seriously of course his wheels are going to have gap when the tires are stretched that flat. LOL

GoToast · 05-31-2011, 06:15 PM

this wasnt the discussion of his gap from tire to fender as in the inward/outward distance, but as for him to acheive a closer fender to outter circumference of the wheel distance.

Tire stretch will only get you so far in moving the car closer to the ground and reducing your contact patch with the road. Unless you have good coils that will actually tuck a 17". And jumping to a wider tire will reduce his amount of stretch, but wont fix his lack of tuck.

Do as we have discussed above and it should work.

ericcastro · 05-31-2011, 06:48 PM

But a wider tire will put the sidewall right against the fender, making it tucked.

GoToast · 05-31-2011, 07:02 PM

....*sigh* thats not what he was asking. and thats not tucked, thats "flush".
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/129865-whee...s-no-post.html

Please, read the Title of the kids thread.
And then copy and paste it back for me so I can make sure I'm reading it correctly. Thanks

*Wake* · 05-31-2011, 07:33 PM

The titled stated "I am a fucking retard that wants to fit a scene but cant figure out what parts to use to do so. Please spoonfeed me said info so I can impress my internet franz"

Gotoast, get off your soapbox.

SLiDe_WaYz · 05-31-2011, 07:49 PM

That's a shitty roll. Over fenders do sit like a inch lower that's it though not much of a difference.
This is my over fender 50MM and wheels are 10.5 on the rear with 295/18's no stretch for me.

Nothing great I have far better coils than you do and I'm able to go another 2in lower if I wanted. Hopefully that answers ur question about the over fenders.

GoToast · 05-31-2011, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WakeBHR

The titled stated "I am a fucking retard that wants to fit a scene but cant figure out what parts to use to do so. Please spoonfeed me said info so I can impress my internet franz"

Gotoast, get off your soapbox.

Hahaha, Thank you Wake.

I can now happily resign from my soapbox.

cotbu · 05-31-2011, 08:19 PM

I told you about that sh*t, XD!

sodel_s13 · 05-31-2011, 08:22 PM

thanks for the 101 flaming from you all " advice" givers. Never said i need some hella flush nonsense. Just trying to go lower, asked about some suspension stuff and got a whole lot of bs i didn't need to hear.

For all those with smart comments making you feel better go impress your girlfriend with your " i know it all" knowledge over the others.

back to the topic, i was able to figure out my problem, i pulled the other side and was able to tuck the tire a lot better. Had to do with my camber arms being set and adjusted wrong the first try. now i can lower her about another 3/4 inch. Ill have to get the gen 2 toe arms from pbm or similar design what has that "bent" design.

bb4_96 · 05-31-2011, 08:38 PM

we need a frame rail removal thread so you can go even lower. If you aren't tucking to the center cap you're probably a pussy.

Weedm · 05-31-2011, 09:39 PM

preload fronts and droop the rear springs. thats your only way out with megans besides shorter springs.

but with preload and droop comes shittier handling than it already is with megans.. not to mention unstable when cornering hard.

just get different coils like PBM or stance if you want to dump.

sodel_s13 · 06-01-2011, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bb4_96

we need a frame rail removal thread so you can go even lower. If you aren't tucking to the center cap you're probably a pussy.

oh is that right? lets see how your car looks!

i only got magans in the rear. running apexi n1's up front. As for now all the collars are in place and i can lower another 1/4 inch, then i can remove 2 of them and got for another 1/2 inch. for now im tucking about 1/4 of inch.

Thanks, no more advice. /thread

bb4_96 · 06-01-2011, 06:12 AM

I think honda was the true pioneer in the tucking field. Does anybody know where to buy the insight rear overfenders?

*Wake* · 06-01-2011, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sodel_s13

As for now all the collars are in place and i can lower another 1/4 inch, then i can remove 2 of them and got for another 1/2 inch. for now im tucking about 1/4 of inch.

Thanks, no more advice. /thread

WOW you figured all that out yourself? Im so happy for you!

Now you see why we talk so much shit in your pointless ass thread.

GoToast · 06-01-2011, 02:04 PM

Actually...chevy beat honda to it.
See thats what you should do Sodel, get a sweet set of fender skirts.

bb4_96 · 06-01-2011, 09:01 PM

^not a pussy

05-31-2011, 09:59 AM	#1
sodel_s13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 188 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	more low I have s13 hatch w/ rota grids, 17x9.5 +12 with federal ss 205/40/17. I got a bit of stretch on those rims, i have pulled fenders also. Im maxed out on my megan steet coils, removed collars and all that good stuff. Still can't get it to tuck tire as i want. Before pulling and rolling i was able to tuck almost to the rim's lip, but i had a huge amount of negative camber. So does rear over fenders sit lower than oem ones? My other option is to get pbm subframe raisers, but that will only give me .5 ich lower. Need advice.

05-31-2011, 10:03 AM	#2
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	You have 2 options. Get shorter swift springs. Or buy new coilovers. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

05-31-2011, 04:34 PM	#6
Wake Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Cruz, ca Age: 38 Posts: 6,699 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	If you think getting shorter springs wouldnt help. Then you need to stop trying to be hella flush with knock offs and start over with a different car altogether. as in not a 240sx. Otherwise, do as you have been told. /Thread __________________ S.P.P.S. Member #00 CoUpe LOve Member #00

05-31-2011, 04:46 PM	#8
Wake Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Cruz, ca Age: 38 Posts: 6,699 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	oh im sorry was there supposed to be no space in between? __________________ S.P.P.S. Member #00 CoUpe LOve Member #00

05-31-2011, 05:10 PM	#13
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,558 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	Guys he has 205/40's on 9.5's lol he could jump up to a 225 still be stretched and fill his well better. Shit I ran 225/45's on 9's and they had stretch on a 9.5 they would have even more stretch. He could probably even go 235/40 on a 9.5 and still have a little stretch. section width on a 205/40 is 8 inchs, which pretty much means its for an 8 inch wheel with normal straight up sidewalls. That means he is stretching his tires 1.5 inches lol. Seriously of course his wheels are going to have gap when the tires are stretched that flat. LOL __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

05-31-2011, 11:03 AM	#3
sodel_s13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 188 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	well i guess springs falls out, because i cannot physically lower the shock body. its bottomed out. But having the raised subframe would help a little. thoughts on raising the subframe?

05-31-2011, 11:19 AM	#4
future Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: SoCal 909 Age: 28 Posts: 4,737 Trader Rating: (42) Feedback Score: 42 reviews	Just get new coils

05-31-2011, 04:27 PM	#5
GoToast Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Stevensville Age: 33 Posts: 100 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/296725...on-thread.html SPL has the has subframe risers like you said. But I would advise on better coilovers. Something with a longer threaded shockbody. If your not going to try shorter springs.

05-31-2011, 04:51 PM	#9
future Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: SoCal 909 Age: 28 Posts: 4,737 Trader Rating: (42) Feedback Score: 42 reviews	Hellaflush=helladumb

05-31-2011, 04:56 PM	#11
bookoo Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: tennessee Age: 32 Posts: 276 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Pbm coils /thread

05-31-2011, 06:15 PM	#14
GoToast Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Stevensville Age: 33 Posts: 100 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	this wasnt the discussion of his gap from tire to fender as in the inward/outward distance, but as for him to acheive a closer fender to outter circumference of the wheel distance. Tire stretch will only get you so far in moving the car closer to the ground and reducing your contact patch with the road. Unless you have good coils that will actually tuck a 17". And jumping to a wider tire will reduce his amount of stretch, but wont fix his lack of tuck. Do as we have discussed above and it should work.

05-31-2011, 07:02 PM	#16
GoToast Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Stevensville Age: 33 Posts: 100 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	....sigh thats not what he was asking. and thats not tucked, thats "flush". http://zilvia.net/f/chat/129865-whee...s-no-post.html Please, read the Title of the kids thread. And then copy and paste it back for me so I can make sure I'm reading it correctly. Thanks

05-31-2011, 07:33 PM	#17
Wake Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Cruz, ca Age: 38 Posts: 6,699 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	The titled stated "I am a fucking retard that wants to fit a scene but cant figure out what parts to use to do so. Please spoonfeed me said info so I can impress my internet franz" Gotoast, get off your soapbox. __________________ S.P.P.S. Member #00 CoUpe LOve Member #00

05-31-2011, 07:49 PM	#18
SLiDe_WaYz Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2011 Location: Texas Age: 31 Posts: 1,282 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	That's a shitty roll. Over fenders do sit like a inch lower that's it though not much of a difference. This is my over fender 50MM and wheels are 10.5 on the rear with 295/18's no stretch for me. Nothing great I have far better coils than you do and I'm able to go another 2in lower if I wanted. Hopefully that answers ur question about the over fenders. __________________

05-31-2011, 08:19 PM	#20
cotbu Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SWFL Age: 47 Posts: 3,318 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	*I told you about that sht, XD! __________________ LoverTechnologies "Half Broken Things!"**

05-31-2011, 08:22 PM	#21
sodel_s13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 188 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	thanks for the 101 flaming from you all " advice" givers. Never said i need some hella flush nonsense. Just trying to go lower, asked about some suspension stuff and got a whole lot of bs i didn't need to hear. For all those with smart comments making you feel better go impress your girlfriend with your " i know it all" knowledge over the others. back to the topic, i was able to figure out my problem, i pulled the other side and was able to tuck the tire a lot better. Had to do with my camber arms being set and adjusted wrong the first try. now i can lower her about another 3/4 inch. Ill have to get the gen 2 toe arms from pbm or similar design what has that "bent" design.

05-31-2011, 08:38 PM	#22
bb4_96 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Under my car Posts: 785 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	we need a frame rail removal thread so you can go even lower. If you aren't tucking to the center cap you're probably a pussy.

05-31-2011, 09:39 PM	#23
Weedm Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Seattle / Portland Age: 30 Posts: 902 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	preload fronts and droop the rear springs. thats your only way out with megans besides shorter springs. but with preload and droop comes shittier handling than it already is with megans.. not to mention unstable when cornering hard. just get different coils like PBM or stance if you want to dump. __________________

06-01-2011, 06:12 AM	#25
bb4_96 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Under my car Posts: 785 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I think honda was the true pioneer in the tucking field. Does anybody know where to buy the insight rear overfenders?

06-01-2011, 02:04 PM	#27
GoToast Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Stevensville Age: 33 Posts: 100 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Actually...chevy beat honda to it. See thats what you should do Sodel, get a sweet set of fender skirts.

06-01-2011, 09:01 PM	#28
bb4_96 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Under my car Posts: 785 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	^not a pussy

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