mazdized

On Fri. along with the drilling I got, the manager told me their utility shop was broken into on May 30th and some of the supply and tools were stolen. I was just in shock and other then appology I had nothing to say. The track got ripped off on top of everything that was happening, it is like fuel on fire. The manager told me for years there are never problems but with drifting things start to appear negative in month. All the stuff that was happening in the past two weeks just makes the image of drifters look really bad to the track, and it is just too bad there are just that few assholes commiting petty theft to make the rest of us have a bad image. I just want to say guys keep an eye out for your stuff and if you know of any suspicious activity report to officials.

NZO

Not to make excuses but it makes sense that the thefts wouldnt be committed by drifters but by spectators, as the drifters were participating in the event.

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AutoRnD

still... GODDAMN JUVENILLE DELINQUENTS (SPELLING)... Why is it that Roundy Round guys and their kids don't steal but these "Drifting spectators" do? EH?

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Heartwork

Maybe the manager at Altamont is lying and trying to give drifters a bad image?

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mazdized

Whatever the case may be, The one track in nor cal that would be perfect for these events is starting to hate us. Soon there will be no events there.
And it doesnt matter whether it is the drifters or the spectators, because its all about association.

Luke

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yea that sucks. my friend got his jack stolen at the may 30 event also..

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knghtryde

That's kinda jacked up. Don't people realize that if they do something stupid it's gonna create a bad name for all of us. So is Altamont pulling away from drifting? Or they gonna give us another chance?

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mazdized

Well the long talk on Fri. mainly involved me appologizing for things and promise it won't happen. Now it pretty much comes down to how people behave. I can not control what people do, so if problems keep coming up it is the general public of the drifter that get victimized at the end. The utility shop was the big metal shed inside the pit, so naturally the assumption is that it was some one from with in the pit not out side who broke in and stole stuff.

mazdized

I really don't see that. If the track don't want us they can just say no to proposed events. He is trying to make drifting happen, but just think how would you feel if all this shit is happening in the past week at a place that you have been running smooth for a long time? His equipment gets ripped off, he gets busi. threats, the turn out and support was not as big as he thought, I mean wouldn't you have doubts about all this if you were him? (oh plus he is expecting a baby soon so even more stress.)Greg Roayl is a very nice guy, I assure you that.

Todd

AutoRnD

guys.. Just get it done... Stop being a-Holes... Ya Know.. If ppl did steal.. Cut it out.. If you see some sheisty stuff then let someone know..

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neevosh

Maybe we should keep spectators out of the pit areas. Have it be just drivers and their friends. That's whack that assholes have to steal shit. I left all my tools out.

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yea, just keep spectators out of the pits! I don't wanna have to worry about my tools when I'm out on the track. Or keep spectators to a minimum, Drift Day kept spectators to the friends of the drifters, each driver could take 2 people into the pits. IMO there were too many people in the pits at Altamont. And I know it was for the smaller S turn course, but more people will allow for more shit to happen, like fights too. it sucks this had to happen.

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phrozen

ppl are stupid.. that really sucks... there are always gonna be retards out there espicially in the import scene. i just hope it wasnt someone thats on this forums were all a community who loves to drive loves nissans and love to drift and if some retard is tryign to ruin it for us... we should beat his ass!

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Yet another reason to ban spectators from the pits & limit access to drivers & their posse.

phrozen

im part of the posse!

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Im Mad And Now Everyone Should Be Mad With Me! Give Back My Fuckin Jack U Ass Wipe!

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Andrew Bohan

whose idea was it to allow spectators in the pits in the first place? that's stupid.

knghtryde

Actually you guys are right. We should limit the pits to the drivers and 1 or 2 guests. And keep it at that. There are enough of us driving so that most of the people that should be there and are wanted there can be there. This way we can keep all the asses out. We really don't need a bad name, and if this is the only way to keep the events going then so be it.

Lets make sure that at the next event only drivers and a Max of 2 guests are allowed in the pits.

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Krazy Bunta

Thats still 225 + staff. Thats actually about the same as the pit attendance numbers for May 30th.

We are working toward some possible solutions.

We really appreciate the feedback, we will keep you posted as to the progress.

Don

knghtryde

Than just keep it to drivers and one friend/passanger or whatsoever. What ever it takes. People will be willing in order to keep drifting a reality. That would only be 140 + staff... that should be good cause I'm hopeing that we don't have to worry about staff. Shoot if you really want I'll vonlunter to park next to the thier work shed so that we can keep an eye on it if that's what it take.

Most people know me if not by name or face, by my car. I'm sure people know that I would never steal anything and if I say I'm going to watch out for things I will.

Don, Tod, if you guys need anything or extra help just let me know. Josh knows how to get ahold of me.

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Var

people are allowed into the pits cause ncda makes 5 bucks extra per person

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knghtryde

Yeah I know.

And Al, what's new.

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blu808

They dont make any money off of the spectators, just the drivers entry fee. And just so you guys know the ncda organizers lost money on this event just to make it a good event.

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They should have recieved 6000 dollars from the drivers fees. Another grand or more from spectators. So at least 7 g's. If you lose money at a bullshit track like Altamont after collecting 7 grand, the track overcharged you. The track should be between 1500 and 2 grand, another couple grand for insurance and another grand for the ambulance...

It was overcrowded and you really dont get your money's worth with that setup(run for a minute, wait for 20 minutes). That's why i'm not gonna sign up for freedom drift. they are charging the same or more and want more drivers on the same track

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Hello.

NCDA here. Add to that marketing, staff, security, and all the manhours Todd and I put in.

I'm a little saddened by the lack of appreciation, this year is a write off, we're working hard to build a foundation, iron out event details and pricing, for a better drifting experience for all in the future. I'll move on.

By your numbers you recieved only 12 runs total on May 30th? Four 1hr sessions, at 20min wait per run, 3 runs per session times 4 = 12 runs? Wow I'd be really upset too.

I calculated approximately 6-8 runs per driver in each morning session, and in the afternoon, we were able to speed things up, by my estimation over 10 runs per driver/per run session, I would've expected up to 40 runs that day (more for those who competed), am I way off base?

By comparison, for those of you who autocross, cost $25-30 to participate, 3-4 runs. Almost $10 a 60 second lap. Some of you may try to compare this to a private event, not a fair comparison. Staff, medical emergency costs, available instructors, tow services, insurance are all real costs that do add up, and are a necessity for a large weekend event. Large events will help grow the sport, and make it more readily available to all.

As for Freedom drift, Todd and I will be making track improvements with or without the help of the track. We did feel the groups could handle additional drivers (we've only added 5 per rungroup), but you'll notice that the hours the track is hot has also extended. Freedom drift is designed for even MORE track time. Don't forget we have a passion for the sport as well, we're not doing this for fame or fortune (although, look out for some of our drivers, they're getting pretty damn good - in the FC's - Todd Ho, head instructor and Henry Ahn, staff instructor) .

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