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bik · 02-10-2006, 09:00 PM

hi guys... i am planing on strip my interior and weld a roll cage..i wanted to get a cleaner look, so u guys think i will destroy the integrity of the chassis if i take off those "triangles" on the rear strut towers? (arrows) i am going to weld a tube betwen the towers (line) what u guys think? anyone have done that? i think cant be that bad... i think the K style dont have those triangles rigth???

p.s. my english suuuuuuucks =/

skithesteel · 02-10-2006, 09:30 PM

I think those triangles are just supports or brackets for the rear seat, so there shouldn't really be any structural integrity at risk. Someone else will have to back me up on that to be sure, though.

Either way, if you're putting in a full roll cage, you will gain rigidity regardless of if they're removed or not.

m072514 · 02-10-2006, 09:54 PM

agreed. just make sure that whatever you're doing is reversible. i.e. unbolting stuff rather than simply cutting it out... but a full roll cage will nullify any rigidity loss from removing those triangles.

RSP13-Sideways · 02-10-2006, 10:20 PM

Correct, those are more for rear seat support. One of my friends had plasma cut those off and installed a bar in the exact place you're planning.

Good luck!

andrewmp6 · 02-10-2006, 10:53 PM

it shouldnt hurt like they said weld in a bar from strut tower to tower should be fine or maybe get a 4 point cage

BlackSilEighty · 02-10-2006, 11:09 PM

Scrape out the sound tar and repaint the metal while your at it

wootwoot · 02-10-2006, 11:31 PM

Get rid a that garbage and make sure your cage has a rear strut bar type dealy =)

bik · 02-11-2006, 03:10 AM

TY TY guys ^_^

i will get pics as soon as i do it ^_^

EchoOfSilence · 02-11-2006, 03:10 AM

Basically, you're good to go.
haslo bien, y salgaras con algo mejor que el original. no soportan nada importante ademas que los asientos trazeros.

kazuo · 02-11-2006, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by EchoOfSilence

haslo bien, y salgaras con algo mejor que el original. no soportan nada importante ademas que los asientos trazeros.

do it well, and you'll end up with something better than the original. they dont support anything important except for the rear seats.

for my non-spanish-speaking zilbeerians.

mi pene es muy grande. y hermoso.

EchoOfSilence · 02-11-2006, 12:46 PM

thanks, Art.

i don't think i'll want to translate that. haha

bik · 02-11-2006, 02:50 PM

U only need to know 1 thing in spanish and is

"quiero otra cerveza" u will do fine in mexico if u know those magic words ^_^

ALTRNTV · 02-11-2006, 03:02 PM

^
I want another beer?

Hahaha, high school Spanish 3 rocks!

Andrew Bohan · 02-11-2006, 03:49 PM

bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrr esta noche en el casa de luke!! woooo fiestsa!!!

TurDz · 02-11-2006, 03:49 PM

If you look at how it's made though, it could be a factor in rigidity. Flat plates like that, and in that orientation, are very good in making triangles (i.e. more torsional rigidity).

IMO, those two triangles provide more structural support than a bar across the towers.

I'm not sure either though, I just felt the need to be the devil's advocate.

BlackSilEighty · 02-11-2006, 11:16 PM

El banjo(sp?) esta loco!!

HyperTek · 02-12-2006, 12:38 AM

kill it!!

SochBAT · 02-12-2006, 12:45 AM

Wok da FROCK???

Thats pretty clean looking, as well as structurally sound.

OneQuickGTR · 02-12-2006, 03:00 AM

goddamit thats fuckin nice hypertek, how much did it cost? i like it !!

ALTRNTV · 02-12-2006, 03:57 AM

^
That's not Hypertek's car.

HyperTek · 02-12-2006, 07:47 AM

haha who said it wasnt? i went to asia and picked up a jdm chassis. They forgot to ship my Willans harness with it.. jk. Foundd the pic on yahoo jp and had it saved to my hd. Its clean, but too much custom work/fab just for that purpose... besides, s13s are the "throw away" chassis, crash it and get another one. lol

NI_YON_Zenki · 02-12-2006, 07:56 PM

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s13s are the "throw away" chassis, crash it and get another one. lol

___I concur. It's the S14 chassis that everyone wants to graduate too, or the S30, teehee.

Irukandji · 02-12-2006, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i'm driftaholic

bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrr esta noche en el casa de luke!! woooo fiestsa!!!

LA casa***

fiesta**

spanish isn't your friend andruke/landrew.

02-10-2006, 09:00 PM	#1
bik Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mexico Age: 46 Posts: 340 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	U guys think i will destroy my car if i do this???? hi guys... i am planing on strip my interior and weld a roll cage..i wanted to get a cleaner look, so u guys think i will destroy the integrity of the chassis if i take off those "triangles" on the rear strut towers? (arrows) i am going to weld a tube betwen the towers (line) what u guys think? anyone have done that? i think cant be that bad... i think the K style dont have those triangles rigth??? p.s. my english suuuuuuucks =/ __________________

02-10-2006, 09:54 PM	#3
m072514 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 384 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	agreed. just make sure that whatever you're doing is reversible. i.e. unbolting stuff rather than simply cutting it out... but a full roll cage will nullify any rigidity loss from removing those triangles. __________________

02-10-2006, 10:20 PM	#4
RSP13-Sideways Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: Northern California Age: 39 Posts: 850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Correct, those are more for rear seat support. One of my friends had plasma cut those off and installed a bar in the exact place you're planning. Good luck! __________________ - Jay WTB: Nothing at the moment. LEWL WTS: Everything sold, thanks folks!

02-10-2006, 11:09 PM	#6
BlackSilEighty Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Thompsons Station, TN Age: 36 Posts: 208 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Scrape out the sound tar and repaint the metal while your at it __________________ 92 240SX. SOLD, 86 RX-7 GXL ,87 RX-7 Sport, 88 RX-7 T2

02-10-2006, 11:31 PM	#7
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 35 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Get rid a that garbage and make sure your cage has a rear strut bar type dealy =) __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you

02-10-2006, 09:30 PM	#2
skithesteel Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut Age: 35 Posts: 79 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think those triangles are just supports or brackets for the rear seat, so there shouldn't really be any structural integrity at risk. Someone else will have to back me up on that to be sure, though. Either way, if you're putting in a full roll cage, you will gain rigidity regardless of if they're removed or not.

02-10-2006, 10:53 PM	#5
andrewmp6 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: kentucky Posts: 376 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	it shouldnt hurt like they said weld in a bar from strut tower to tower should be fine or maybe get a 4 point cage

02-11-2006, 03:10 AM	#8
bik Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mexico Age: 46 Posts: 340 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	TY TY guys ^_^ i will get pics as soon as i do it ^_^ __________________

02-11-2006, 03:10 AM	#9
EchoOfSilence Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles/Berkeley, CA Posts: 2,238 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Basically, you're good to go. haslo bien, y salgaras con algo mejor que el original. no soportan nada importante ademas que los asientos trazeros. __________________ Petition Nissan to Make the IDx on http://IDxClub.co !

02-11-2006, 12:46 PM	#11
EchoOfSilence Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles/Berkeley, CA Posts: 2,238 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	thanks, Art. i don't think i'll want to translate that. haha __________________ Petition Nissan to Make the IDx on http://IDxClub.co !

02-11-2006, 02:50 PM	#12
bik Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mexico Age: 46 Posts: 340 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	U only need to know 1 thing in spanish and is "quiero otra cerveza" u will do fine in mexico if u know those magic words ^_^ __________________

02-11-2006, 03:02 PM	#13
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ I want another beer? Hahaha, high school Spanish 3 rocks!

02-11-2006, 03:49 PM	#14
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Location: Location Posts: 8,330 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrr esta noche en el casa de luke!! woooo fiestsa!!!

02-11-2006, 03:49 PM	#15
TurDz Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,618 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If you look at how it's made though, it could be a factor in rigidity. Flat plates like that, and in that orientation, are very good in making triangles (i.e. more torsional rigidity). IMO, those two triangles provide more structural support than a bar across the towers. I'm not sure either though, I just felt the need to be the devil's advocate. __________________

02-11-2006, 11:16 PM	#16
BlackSilEighty Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Thompsons Station, TN Age: 36 Posts: 208 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	El banjo(sp?) esta loco!! __________________ 92 240SX. SOLD, 86 RX-7 GXL ,87 RX-7 Sport, 88 RX-7 T2

02-12-2006, 12:38 AM	#17
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	kill it!! __________________ Keep it Classy

02-12-2006, 12:45 AM	#18
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Wok da FROCK??? Thats pretty clean looking, as well as structurally sound.

02-12-2006, 03:00 AM	#19
OneQuickGTR BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 67 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	goddamit thats fuckin nice hypertek, how much did it cost? i like it !!

02-12-2006, 03:57 AM	#20
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ That's not Hypertek's car.

02-12-2006, 07:47 AM	#21
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	haha who said it wasnt? i went to asia and picked up a jdm chassis. They forgot to ship my Willans harness with it.. jk. Foundd the pic on yahoo jp and had it saved to my hd. Its clean, but too much custom work/fab just for that purpose... besides, s13s are the "throw away" chassis, crash it and get another one. lol __________________ Keep it Classy

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