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SoCalDrifter · 07-30-2012, 11:59 AM

whats up everyone so got in a little accident and dont know if i need a new subframe for the rear maybe also the front to wondering if anyone can check out these pictures and let me know what they think

REAR:

FRONT:

Sorry for the shitty picture quality off my iphone

The rear LCA is wrecked i know but thats why im wondering if i need a new subframe before i fix that along with the front is the same. Thanks for the help guy lmk if you need any more pictures or information to provid a better answer for me

alixander2012 · 07-30-2012, 12:20 PM

Wow, how did you do that? Jump it over something?

future · 07-30-2012, 01:36 PM

Rally racing the 40?

SoCalDrifter · 07-30-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by alixander2012

Wow, how did you do that? Jump it over something?

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Originally Posted by future

Rally racing the 40?

hahaha not really but in a sence you could say that

alixander2012 · 07-30-2012, 03:05 PM

I need vid's of that, breaking a subframe deserves video proof.

*brndck* · 07-30-2012, 03:10 PM

front x-member is toast. what the shit did you smash into/over?

DJ-of-E · 07-30-2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by brndck

front x-member is toast. what the shit did you smash into/over?

Prob hit a curb real hard.

SoCalDrifter · 07-30-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by alixander2012

I need vid's of that, breaking a subframe deserves video proof.

haha next time we were just about to start filming and then this

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Originally Posted by brndck

front x-member is toast. what the shit did you smash into/over?

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Originally Posted by DJ-of-E

Prob hit a curb real hard.

Ya hit a curb tandeming at like 40-45 almost flipped my car then my friend tandeming hit me... wasnt really a good night

but on another note everyone was alright and my car took the most damage

but what do you guys think new subframe or can it be fixed??

adrians_s13 · 07-30-2012, 04:41 PM

I'd suggest getting a new subframe...

btw, I have an s13 subframe just chillin in my back yard if you want

just throw me an offer.

DJ-of-E · 07-30-2012, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalDrifter

Ya hit a curb tandeming at like 40-45 almost flipped my car then my friend tandeming hit me... wasnt really a good night

but on another note everyone was alright and my car took the most damage

but what do you guys think new subframe or can it be fixed??

If it were me, I'd use it as an excuse to do an S14 subframe conversion.

My S13 subframe is fine and got lazy doing such conversion since everything else is fine.

brewster240 · 07-30-2012, 04:47 PM

replace both, and all arms on that side. probably knuckles too.

SoCalDrifter · 07-30-2012, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by adrians_s13

I'd suggest getting a new subframe...

btw, I have an s13 subframe just chillin in my back yard if you want

just throw me an offer.

ok ill keep that in mind.... what would u want for it???

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Originally Posted by DJ-of-E

If it were me, I'd use it as an excuse to do an S14 subframe conversion.

My S13 subframe is fine and got lazy doing such conversion since everything else is fine.

And whats the point of a s14 subframe conversion?? Wouldnt that be a waste cause i would have to get rid of all my s13 suspension parts....

jr_ss · 07-30-2012, 06:29 PM

Do as the people stated above me. However, keep that shit at the track, not on the street. Idiots like you kill innocent people. We've all participated in stupid shit on the streets, including myself, but it is not the right place for it. You are lucky you didn't get seriously injured or injure someone else.

SoCalDrifter · 07-30-2012, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jr_ss

Do as the people stated above me. However, keep that shit at the track, not on the street. Idiots like you kill innocent people. We've all participated in stupid shit on the streets, including myself, but it is not the right place for it. You are lucky you didn't get seriously injured or injure someone else.

ya i know i dont street drift any more since this not only cause my cars broken but shits scary when going that fast and i dont do it on public streets to hurt people or endanger them it was at 1am on a wednesday night in a back of a shipping yard

DJ-of-E · 07-30-2012, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalDrifter

And whats the point of a s14 subframe conversion?? Wouldnt that be a waste cause i would have to get rid of all my s13 suspension parts....

because race car.

zerodameaon · 07-31-2012, 01:17 AM

Replace front and back they are both done for, if you don't have plans to be going into any amateur or pro drift circuit the S14 sub has better geometry then the S13, not all of your S13 parts would go, if you have RUCA they are interchangeable and your coilovers will still be S13. There might be others but I cant remember. Its hard to tell in the pictures but it doesn't look like you have any aftermarket suspension back there.

SoCalDrifter · 07-31-2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by zerodameaon

Replace front and back they are both done for, if you don't have plans to be going into any amateur or pro drift circuit the S14 sub has better geometry then the S13, not all of your S13 parts would go, if you have RUCA they are interchangeable and your coilovers will still be S13. There might be others but I cant remember. Its hard to tell in the pictures but it doesn't look like you have any aftermarket suspension back there.

O ok the rear is still stock and same as the front only really has a few parts but by switching to the s14 subframe would i have to get new coils or would my 13s be fine?? just wondering cause i wont have the money to be doing all that at once and when switching to a s14 subframe does it bolt right up like the s13 or do i need to modify somethings??

Just trying to see what i would get into before looking into it everything completely

thanks for all the help guys

edmorl · 08-01-2012, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalDrifter

O ok the rear is still stock and same as the front only really has a few parts but by switching to the s14 subframe would i have to get new coils or would my 13s be fine?? just wondering cause i wont have the money to be doing all that at once and when switching to a s14 subframe does it bolt right up like the s13 or do i need to modify somethings??

Just trying to see what i would get into before looking into it everything completely

thanks for all the help guys

yes you can still use the same coilovers in the rear. And to fit an s14 subframe into an s13 you'll need some conversion bushings.

And if you need a front crossmember, I happen to have one for sale off of a JDM s13

SoCalDrifter · 08-01-2012, 09:46 PM

do you guys think the s14 subframe is better for drifting then the s13 i was doing some reasearch on the swap and some people were saying the s14 is for grip racing s13 for drifting what do you guys think??

Croustibat · 08-02-2012, 01:42 AM

I think it does not matter unless you are fitting rose jointed arms and rose joints in your knuckes, new bushes everywhere else, fit adjustable ARBs and adjustable ARBs droplink, correct the roll center height, fit quality coilover (quality = bilstein, penske ... no the usual japanese stuff) and corner weight the car, i.e spend the price of a couple of houses on your car.

TL;DR version:
don't bother unless you are making a living out of it AND it is allowed by regulations.

zerodameaon · 08-03-2012, 12:20 AM

Last I checked if you enter any type of drift competition that is a direct lead into to FD you have to keep the stock sub-frame. Just go get a S13 sub, there is enough R&D into them these days to make them not to much worse then a S14 sub.

SoCalDrifter · 08-03-2012, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by zerodameaon

Last I checked if you enter any type of drift competition that is a direct lead into to FD you have to keep the stock sub-frame. Just go get a S13 sub, there is enough R&D into them these days to make them not to much worse then a S14 sub.

ya just gunna stay s13 put the extra money other places

07-30-2012, 11:59 AM	#1
SoCalDrifter Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Thousand Oaks-818 Posts: 1,990 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	do i need a new subframe or is this fixable?? whats up everyone so got in a little accident and dont know if i need a new subframe for the rear maybe also the front to wondering if anyone can check out these pictures and let me know what they think REAR: FRONT: Sorry for the shitty picture quality off my iphone The rear LCA is wrecked i know but thats why im wondering if i need a new subframe before i fix that along with the front is the same. Thanks for the help guy lmk if you need any more pictures or information to provid a better answer for me

07-30-2012, 04:41 PM	#9
adrians_s13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: long beach, CA ^_^ Age: 36 Posts: 2,877 Trader Rating: (29) Feedback Score: 29 reviews	I'd suggest getting a new subframe... btw, I have an s13 subframe just chillin in my back yard if you want just throw me an offer. __________________ @adrianfromthecastle

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jr_ss Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pa Posts: 6,052 Trader Rating: (34) Feedback Score: 34 reviews	Do as the people stated above me. However, keep that shit at the track, not on the street. Idiots like you kill innocent people. We've all participated in stupid shit on the streets, including myself, but it is not the right place for it. You are lucky you didn't get seriously injured or injure someone else. __________________ My SR20VET

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alixander2012 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Alabama Age: 37 Posts: 32 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wow, how did you do that? Jump it over something?

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alixander2012 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Alabama Age: 37 Posts: 32 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I need vid's of that, breaking a subframe deserves video proof.

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brewster240 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: tampa bay, fl Age: 38 Posts: 1,042 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	replace both, and all arms on that side. probably knuckles too.

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SoCalDrifter Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Thousand Oaks-818 Posts: 1,990 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	do you guys think the s14 subframe is better for drifting then the s13 i was doing some reasearch on the swap and some people were saying the s14 is for grip racing s13 for drifting what do you guys think??

08-02-2012, 01:42 AM	#20
Croustibat Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: France - Toulouse Age: 41 Posts: 1,851 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think it does not matter unless you are fitting rose jointed arms and rose joints in your knuckes, new bushes everywhere else, fit adjustable ARBs and adjustable ARBs droplink, correct the roll center height, fit quality coilover (quality = bilstein, penske ... no the usual japanese stuff) and corner weight the car, i.e spend the price of a couple of houses on your car. TL;DR version: don't bother unless you are making a living out of it AND it is allowed by regulations.