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Om1kron · 03-19-2010, 10:47 AM

are you building ducting for your v-mount setup, as I am curious as to how air is properly going to fly into the intercooler?

and you guys are just ridiculous with the suspension mods, geez.

The bubbler tank... I want that... genius, probably a bitch to install and remove lol.

FullRaceGeoff · 03-19-2010, 04:15 PM

tial's new wg - MVR (their new 44mm) was FINALLY released!! expecting to receive them early next week

om1kron - yes ducting is being constructed, will post pics when complete

Om1kron · 03-19-2010, 04:25 PM

awesome, I think your v-mount setup makes more sense cooling wise. Something about a super angular radiator just scares the shit out of me.

FullRaceGeoff · 03-19-2010, 04:28 PM

this style vmount works extremely well - water temps were cool and rock solid, and iat was identical to my front mount

Silviaoneday · 03-19-2010, 04:40 PM

Your style on the v-mount makes more sense to me than original way. Pretty bad ass to see a RB v-mounted!!

*kingkilburn* · 03-19-2010, 04:53 PM

How will forcing all that air under the car effect the aerodynamics of it?

WhiteGLX · 03-20-2010, 04:33 PM

All the air that would pass through the FMIC and rad setup before would still go under the car, really shouldnt be any changes at all, and if he puts a splitter on that extends back under the IC it should help stabilize the air under the car a little bit.

MandTPhotography · 03-20-2010, 05:05 PM

Subscribed....amazing. Simply amazing.

FullRaceGeoff · 03-25-2010, 08:13 PM

as promised - here is the latest update for you guys:

To start this installment, many hardcore car guy know that the best suspension in the world is MOTON. Seriously - nothing else comes close. I researched my options - considered ohlins, bilstein, kw, penske but at the end of the day, none had what i was looking for except Moton. I HATE upgrading parts and only want to buy good suspension once, so i bit the bullet and what showed up was heavenly. The quality of these absolutely exceeded expectation, and im blown away (im a very picky engineer, this doesnt happen often) suspension of this caliber is seriously next level :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown MOTON

^^ a total thing of beauty. Moton double adjustables (15 independant bump and rebound settings, blowoff valve system for high speed bump control, huge main piston, remote reservoir compression adjusters mounted on swivel banjo fittings (makes mounting them easy!), and 2.25" spring hardware.

^^this is the top-secret R14 front suspension ive never shown anyone before. consider yourselves lucky :rotflmao the Motons fit so perfect, its like the motons were just meant to be..

this is showing the drivers side remote reservoir compression adjuster

(pass side)

now to the rear --

installed (but waiting on the tender springs to arrive)

reservoir located, you can also see the fuel pump wiring

easy to see how the adjusters are mounted facing inwards, easy to access without removing the wheel

tire clearance at full droop

tire clearance at full bump

both reservoirs mounted, and the wing mount i am building now from 0.035 4130 cromoly

NEW prototype BorgWarner Twinscroll Turbo - dubbed S300'P'

^^^look at the super badass turbine wheel geometry and my favorite feature of all, the vband compressor hsg to CHRA. soooo slick. I am looking to spool 1000rpm quicker and make 700+whp at 30psi boost... this should do it.

the legendary extended tip compressor wheel design, this is only 61mm inducer / 83mm exducer turbo, just like a GT35R but it moves 72lb/min at full-tilt, HUGE airflow for this small of a turbo (35R is 62lb/min for example). take a look at the far tip you can see the little "peak" that is mountain shaped on the top of each blade? thats the extended tip

getting ready for the charge pipe modification

4" downpipe flange welded on

^^old vs new... you can see how much smaller the new turbo really is

^^got the manifold and downpipe 2000degree HPC coated, and will use DEI heat wrap on top of the coating to further reduce engine bay temps

Now just waiting on the *brand new* TiAL MVR 44mm wastegate -- hopefully will receive it soon!!

Front Aero

^^front splitter mounted on the car, you can also see the radiator ducting. coolers will be remounted and ducted next

^^strong enough for 330lbs @ 0mph, should handle 300+lbs downforce at 170mph!

Rear diffuser
to make a functional rear diffuser, it requires that there be an area with no obtrustions to block air from exiting under the chassis or from behind the tires. I started by cutting the quarter panels level with the frame rail, and then i cut out the spare tire well

^^cutting quarter panels level with the frame rail

^^removing spare tire well

^^20 ga steel plate fabricated, and mig tack'd in place.

^^welds cleaned up, spray painted grey

flat bottom rear is finished! now time to bolt up the diffuser when it gets back from powdercoat on monday :naughty

this bumper will be trimmed generously!

another shot of the rear, but this time the new spindles with proper toe rod geometry is installed

as she sits tonite, getting ready for a looong weekend!

now i have to corner weight the car, align it, and do a few tweaks from my friends from M-workz and motoIQ, then i can finish the aero, and turbo for one last update before the race. see you guys for one last update in 1 week!

GripTerror · 03-26-2010, 07:33 AM

i hate you lol so jealous

army240 · 03-26-2010, 08:16 AM

You guys are the best...

This is just a sick build!!!

Good luck!

Frank

jspaeth · 03-26-2010, 09:04 AM

I would like to see some companies (Garrett, Tial, etc.) come out with more "interesting" compressor housing designs....

Do you think there would be any gain from a smoother transition from compressor outlet to hotpipe?

Almost all turbo setups ask the air to take a 90* turn immediately after exiting the compressor.

Just wondering if there is a better way......

That thing looks ridiculous!

Btw Geoff, my buddy has a FullRace GT35R kit (mani, turbo, twin 38mm Tials) that we just put on his RB26....tomorrow is the big day, we are getting tuned by Evans!

Let me ask you directly....

For a STOCK RB with just your manifold and GT35R.....

He is running the OEM GTS pump in series with a Walbro (255 lph) external inline pump.

I was debating with him whether or not that is going to be enough.....what is your take?

Btw, he is running 1000cc IDs...

FullRaceGeoff · 03-26-2010, 10:02 AM

later this year you are going to see a LOT of interesting developments in the turbocharging world - turbo technology will make a huge leap forwards

i suggest your friends stock RB get a set of tomei poncams or hks 264 - its a HUGE benefit to have these in for the dyno, and they work just fine on stock head/valvesprings/shims. I would think he will have enough fuel with that setup, but dont really know for sure - maybe would be a good idea to make sure you are watching the fuel pressure gauge during the dyno runs

jspaeth · 03-26-2010, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FullRaceGeoff

later this year you are going to see a LOT of interesting developments in the turbocharging world - turbo technology will make a huge leap forwards

i suggest your friends stock RB get a set of tomei poncams or hks 264 - its a HUGE benefit to have these in for the dyno, and they work just fine on stock head/valvesprings/shims. I would think he will have enough fuel with that setup, but dont really know for sure - maybe would be a good idea to make sure you are watching the fuel pressure gauge during the dyno runs

Yeah, thanks for the heads up. I have tried to get my 2 friends with RBs to do some sort of a mild cam (the one has a Greddy IM), but neither of them are willing/want to do it....it's a really easy install, especially if you aren't touching the valves/springs.

I am just worried, bc the "rule of thumb" I've read is that 2 similar pumps in series flows only about 20% more than the smaller pump.

Both pumps are 255 lph....so that's roughly 300 lph....he will probably be okay, I just don't want to see (Jeff) Evans have to stop short of the maximum possible output bc my buddy was too lazy/cheap to do a proper fuel setup...

NMs14.5kouki · 03-26-2010, 10:40 AM

I love this build! that car is freakin amazing!!

does borgwarner make a twin scroll turbo that would be similar to a 3071/76? i may decide to get one of those later on instead of the garrett im running...

FullRaceGeoff · 03-26-2010, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NMs14.5kouki

I love this build! that car is freakin amazing!!

does borgwarner make a twin scroll turbo that would be similar to a 3071/76? i may decide to get one of those later on instead of the garrett im running...

yes - take a look at the S200 (T3 Twinscroll) and S200SX (T4 twinscroll) turbos they are great performers, the T4 works best for a 1.00-1.09-1.15 a/r on an SR20

onehundredoctane · 03-26-2010, 04:55 PM

I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT!!!!!

but I'd settle for a ride in it eventually. srsly tho, when I get my car running I'm planning a small vacation to AZ in my S13. Gotta see this beast of and R14 in person!

RB24_S14 · 03-26-2010, 05:33 PM

This is one of the best builds I have ever seen. Godamn! AWD RB26..cant get any better. Is there a HP limit? because I know if you guys wanted more power out of the RB it would be unstopable!

PoorMans180SX · 03-26-2010, 07:38 PM

Serious business time!

Loving the suspension and aero mods.

lightsource · 03-26-2010, 08:07 PM

AHHHH!!! Okay.... I can't believe I just saw all of this win in just two pages.

Good luck w. everything +subscribed, sickest S14 project i've seen yet.

n8RPS13 · 03-26-2010, 09:02 PM

MY GOD!!!! I remember the issue of Modified with this 240 and was like holly SH*T!!! AMAZING JOB GUYS!!!! Keep it up!!!

FullRaceGeoff · 03-28-2010, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Full-Race Geoff

-- pump gas at 19psi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Full-Race Geoff

^^^E85 [email protected] psi -- wayyy laggy + weird dip??

so we got that weird dip figured out tonite, and why it was so laggy -- there was a small tear in the wastegate diaphragm! this caused extra lag, and weird behavior when the wastegate was opening.

NOTE: LEARN FROM MY ERROR -- ALWAYS RUN THE WASTEGATES OFF COMPRESSOR HSG TO AVOID ANY VACUUM BEING SEEN BY THE WASTEGATE> IF YOU RUN WASTEGATE OFF OF INTAKE MANIFOLD USE A CHECK VALVE

GSXRJJordan · 03-28-2010, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FullRaceGeoff

tial's new wg - MVR (their new 44mm) was FINALLY released!! expecting to receive them early next week

I'm very interested to see how small they can get the MVR ~ the standard 44mm seems much larger than it needs to be. Were you worried about running out of gate with two MV-S's?

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteGLX

All the air that would pass through the FMIC and rad setup before would still go under the car, really shouldnt be any changes at all, and if he puts a splitter on that extends back under the IC it should help stabilize the air under the car a little bit.

Correct!

Quote:

Originally Posted by FullRaceGeoff

NOTE: LEARN FROM MY ERROR -- ALWAYS RUN THE WASTEGATES OFF COMPRESSOR HSG TO AVOID ANY VACUUM BEING SEEN BY THE WASTEGATE> IF YOU RUN WASTEGATE OFF OF INTAKE MANIFOLD USE A CHECK VALVE

I guess that makes sense, but I've never heard of the vacuum seen on a turbo motor being substantial enough to warrant a check valve. Glad you found the problem though!

FullRaceGeoff · 03-28-2010, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

Were you worried about running out of gate with two MV-S's?.. I've never heard of the vacuum seen on a turbo motor being substantial enough to warrant a check valve

manifold was already flanged for 44mm, and coated.

its far more common than you think.

timtiminy · 03-28-2010, 09:50 AM

just here watching... in awe

RHD95S14 · 03-28-2010, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FullRaceGeoff

NOTE: LEARN FROM MY ERROR -- ALWAYS RUN THE WASTEGATES OFF COMPRESSOR HSG TO AVOID ANY VACUUM BEING SEEN BY THE WASTEGATE> IF YOU RUN WASTEGATE OFF OF INTAKE MANIFOLD USE A CHECK VALVE

Can you elaborate please? Wouldn't a check valve just keep building pressure inside the wg?

FullRaceGeoff · 03-28-2010, 11:33 PM

check valve prevents it from seeing vacuum. boost only is what the wastegate should see.

the big benefit of the compressor housing being the source for wastegate signal is that there is no vacuum signal, there is no pressure drop across the intercooler, and no need for a check valve. so just drill and tap the comp hsg.

Om1kron · 03-29-2010, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FullRaceGeoff

check valve prevents it from seeing vacuum. boost only is what the wastegate should see.

the big benefit of the compressor housing being the source for wastegate signal is that there is no vacuum signal, there is no pressure drop across the intercooler, and no need for a check valve. so just drill and tap the comp hsg.

I always wondered why I've seen turbos with a fitting on them for this.... that makes sense.

The more you know?

SpeedLoungeRich · 03-29-2010, 07:59 PM

Geoff... remember me? I had to join this forum just so I could follow this thread. We shot Jaden a few weeks ago and Jeff was telling me about the car... the thing looks sick man.

Please, please, please.. do us a favor and after you win this thing, contact Polyphony Digital and get them to finally come out and shoot/test the car so they can include it in Gran Turismo 5... it might be the only way I'll ever get to drive it, but that will be good enough....

FullRaceGeoff · 03-29-2010, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedLoungeRich

Jeff was telling me about the car... the thing looks sick man.

Please, please, please.. do us a favor and after you win this thing, contact Polyphony Digital and get them to finally come out and shoot/test the car so they can include it in Gran Turismo 5...

good to hear from you Rich! the car is actually still registered in NJ

i will bring it back east probably after SEMA 2010.

the car is already in GT5!! they shot it at sema a few years back and its listed in their car list already, i should definitely contact someone to ask them to add a fixed tq split feature for my car tho!!

03-19-2010, 10:47 AM	#91
Om1kron Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 40 Posts: 6,879 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	are you building ducting for your v-mount setup, as I am curious as to how air is properly going to fly into the intercooler? and you guys are just ridiculous with the suspension mods, geez. The bubbler tank... I want that... genius, probably a bitch to install and remove lol. __________________ Wayne

03-19-2010, 04:25 PM	#93
Om1kron Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 40 Posts: 6,879 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	awesome, I think your v-mount setup makes more sense cooling wise. Something about a super angular radiator just scares the shit out of me. __________________ Wayne

03-19-2010, 04:53 PM	#96
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,041 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How will forcing all that air under the car effect the aerodynamics of it? __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

03-20-2010, 04:33 PM	#97
WhiteGLX Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Baltimore, MD Age: 37 Posts: 872 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	All the air that would pass through the FMIC and rad setup before would still go under the car, really shouldnt be any changes at all, and if he puts a splitter on that extends back under the IC it should help stabilize the air under the car a little bit. __________________ *NASA HPDE Instructor*

03-25-2010, 08:13 PM	#99
FullRaceGeoff Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: az/nj Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	as promised - here is the latest update for you guys: To start this installment, many hardcore car guy know that the best suspension in the world is MOTON. Seriously - nothing else comes close. I researched my options - considered ohlins, bilstein, kw, penske but at the end of the day, none had what i was looking for except Moton. I HATE upgrading parts and only want to buy good suspension once, so i bit the bullet and what showed up was heavenly. The quality of these absolutely exceeded expectation, and im blown away (im a very picky engineer, this doesnt happen often) suspension of this caliber is seriously next level :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown MOTON ^^ a total thing of beauty. Moton double adjustables (15 independant bump and rebound settings, blowoff valve system for high speed bump control, huge main piston, remote reservoir compression adjusters mounted on swivel banjo fittings (makes mounting them easy!), and 2.25" spring hardware. ^^this is the top-secret R14 front suspension ive never shown anyone before. consider yourselves lucky :rotflmao the Motons fit so perfect, its like the motons were just meant to be.. this is showing the drivers side remote reservoir compression adjuster (pass side) now to the rear -- installed (but waiting on the tender springs to arrive) reservoir located, you can also see the fuel pump wiring easy to see how the adjusters are mounted facing inwards, easy to access without removing the wheel tire clearance at full droop tire clearance at full bump both reservoirs mounted, and the wing mount i am building now from 0.035 4130 cromoly NEW prototype BorgWarner Twinscroll Turbo - dubbed S300'P' ^^^look at the super badass turbine wheel geometry and my favorite feature of all, the vband compressor hsg to CHRA. soooo slick. I am looking to spool 1000rpm quicker and make 700+whp at 30psi boost... this should do it. the legendary extended tip compressor wheel design, this is only 61mm inducer / 83mm exducer turbo, just like a GT35R but it moves 72lb/min at full-tilt, HUGE airflow for this small of a turbo (35R is 62lb/min for example). take a look at the far tip you can see the little "peak" that is mountain shaped on the top of each blade? thats the extended tip getting ready for the charge pipe modification 4" downpipe flange welded on ^^old vs new... you can see how much smaller the new turbo really is ^^got the manifold and downpipe 2000degree HPC coated, and will use DEI heat wrap on top of the coating to further reduce engine bay temps Now just waiting on the brand new TiAL MVR 44mm wastegate -- hopefully will receive it soon!! Front Aero ^^front splitter mounted on the car, you can also see the radiator ducting. coolers will be remounted and ducted next ^^strong enough for 330lbs @ 0mph, should handle 300+lbs downforce at 170mph! Rear diffuser to make a functional rear diffuser, it requires that there be an area with no obtrustions to block air from exiting under the chassis or from behind the tires. I started by cutting the quarter panels level with the frame rail, and then i cut out the spare tire well ^^cutting quarter panels level with the frame rail ^^removing spare tire well ^^20 ga steel plate fabricated, and mig tack'd in place. ^^welds cleaned up, spray painted grey flat bottom rear is finished! now time to bolt up the diffuser when it gets back from powdercoat on monday :naughty this bumper will be trimmed generously! another shot of the rear, but this time the new spindles with proper toe rod geometry is installed as she sits tonite, getting ready for a looong weekend! now i have to corner weight the car, align it, and do a few tweaks from my friends from M-workz and motoIQ, then i can finish the aero, and turbo for one last update before the race. see you guys for one last update in 1 week! Last edited by FullRaceGeoff; 03-25-2010 at 08:56 PM..

03-19-2010, 04:15 PM	#92
FullRaceGeoff Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: az/nj Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	tial's new wg - MVR (their new 44mm) was FINALLY released!! expecting to receive them early next week om1kron - yes ducting is being constructed, will post pics when complete

03-19-2010, 04:28 PM	#94
FullRaceGeoff Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: az/nj Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	this style vmount works extremely well - water temps were cool and rock solid, and iat was identical to my front mount

03-19-2010, 04:40 PM	#95
Silviaoneday Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: So Cal Posts: 471 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Your style on the v-mount makes more sense to me than original way. Pretty bad ass to see a RB v-mounted!!

03-20-2010, 05:05 PM	#98
MandTPhotography Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 801 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Subscribed....amazing. Simply amazing.

03-26-2010, 07:33 AM	#100
GripTerror Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Canada Age: 36 Posts: 685 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i hate you lol so jealous

03-26-2010, 08:16 AM	#101
army240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2008 Location: Quebec Age: 36 Posts: 306 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	You guys are the best... This is just a sick build!!! Good luck! Frank

03-26-2010, 09:04 AM	#102
jspaeth Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Philadelphia suburbs Age: 37 Posts: 2,347 Trader Rating: (7) Rides Gallery: jspaeth Feedback Score: 7 reviews	I would like to see some companies (Garrett, Tial, etc.) come out with more "interesting" compressor housing designs.... Do you think there would be any gain from a smoother transition from compressor outlet to hotpipe? Almost all turbo setups ask the air to take a 90* turn immediately after exiting the compressor. Just wondering if there is a better way...... That thing looks ridiculous! Btw Geoff, my buddy has a FullRace GT35R kit (mani, turbo, twin 38mm Tials) that we just put on his RB26....tomorrow is the big day, we are getting tuned by Evans! Let me ask you directly.... For a STOCK RB with just your manifold and GT35R..... He is running the OEM GTS pump in series with a Walbro (255 lph) external inline pump. I was debating with him whether or not that is going to be enough.....what is your take? Btw, he is running 1000cc IDs... __________________ Daily driven

03-26-2010, 10:02 AM	#103
FullRaceGeoff Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: az/nj Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	later this year you are going to see a LOT of interesting developments in the turbocharging world - turbo technology will make a huge leap forwards i suggest your friends stock RB get a set of tomei poncams or hks 264 - its a HUGE benefit to have these in for the dyno, and they work just fine on stock head/valvesprings/shims. I would think he will have enough fuel with that setup, but dont really know for sure - maybe would be a good idea to make sure you are watching the fuel pressure gauge during the dyno runs

03-26-2010, 10:40 AM	#105
NMs14.5kouki Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: albuquerque Age: 33 Posts: 654 Trader Rating: (38) Feedback Score: 38 reviews	I love this build! that car is freakin amazing!! does borgwarner make a twin scroll turbo that would be similar to a 3071/76? i may decide to get one of those later on instead of the garrett im running...

03-26-2010, 04:55 PM	#107
onehundredoctane Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Greensborough, NC Posts: 2,783 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT!!!!! but I'd settle for a ride in it eventually. srsly tho, when I get my car running I'm planning a small vacation to AZ in my S13. Gotta see this beast of and R14 in person!

03-26-2010, 05:33 PM	#108
RB24_S14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Hagerstown Age: 29 Posts: 477 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	This is one of the best builds I have ever seen. Godamn! AWD RB26..cant get any better. Is there a HP limit? because I know if you guys wanted more power out of the RB it would be unstopable! __________________ 460whp 350Z

03-26-2010, 07:38 PM	#109
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,432 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Serious business time! Loving the suspension and aero mods. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

03-26-2010, 08:07 PM	#110
lightsource Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Compton, CA Posts: 1,153 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	AHHHH!!! Okay.... I can't believe I just saw all of this win in just two pages. Good luck w. everything +subscribed, sickest S14 project i've seen yet.

03-26-2010, 09:02 PM	#111
n8RPS13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New Smyrna Beach Posts: 1,285 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	MY GOD!!!! I remember the issue of Modified with this 240 and was like holly SH*T!!! AMAZING JOB GUYS!!!! Keep it up!!!

03-28-2010, 09:50 AM	#115
timtiminy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Socal Posts: 624 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just here watching... in awe

03-28-2010, 11:33 PM	#117
FullRaceGeoff Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: az/nj Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	check valve prevents it from seeing vacuum. boost only is what the wastegate should see. the big benefit of the compressor housing being the source for wastegate signal is that there is no vacuum signal, there is no pressure drop across the intercooler, and no need for a check valve. so just drill and tap the comp hsg.

03-29-2010, 07:59 PM	#119
SpeedLoungeRich Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 3 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Geoff... remember me? I had to join this forum just so I could follow this thread. We shot Jaden a few weeks ago and Jeff was telling me about the car... the thing looks sick man. Please, please, please.. do us a favor and after you win this thing, contact Polyphony Digital and get them to finally come out and shoot/test the car so they can include it in Gran Turismo 5... it might be the only way I'll ever get to drive it, but that will be good enough....

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