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Democratic Republic of the Californ.

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KiLLeR2001

If you want hot chicks in bikini's and winter that only lasts 3 weeks long... WITHOUT all the car modification / smog bs of California, move to Florida! Just learn to drive around the old farts and Honda ricers

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chiboy002

This.

It's not the motor itself that is illegal, it's emissions related stuff. Japan doesn't have the same emissions as us, therefore our government makes it illegal when it doesn't abide to our rules.

This is why we sometimes get 'watered-down' versions of cars like the 240sx with a ka but in Japan they get the sr20's and ca's

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SlideWell

^ what Killer said.
youre not living life unless you take risks.
unless you have legal problem on your personal record, who cares, mod the hell out of your car. just keep it clean and proper.

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Jose1

1st off for you to come here and post this, says a lot about you. Might you have fallen off the vvvvtac wall think might be time for you to gtfo and head back over to the vvvvtac camp and just exit before you hurt yourself. There is no more need for people like you in any RWD Nissan comminty, there is a reason why Honda made FWD Civic's for people like you. Just make it simple, unplug from zilvia and go watch some drift clips on youtube and call yourself a jdm expert or you can join the local walmart parking lot drift association get your 15min of youtube fame of taking out a lightpost.

srsly GTFO.


wow, this is just and headasplode if I have ever read one.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J---aiyznGQ

ixfxi

dunno about you eric, but im born n raised in LA. i cant say i found many girls in LA that were noteworthy


LA has a fuckin magnet that attracts the shittiest people from all over the country (and world). worst part about it, they move here and think theyre from LA.. bitch attitude and all.


florida seems like fun, if it wasnt for the flat land and fuckin hurricanes. but if its one thing i admire and respect about florida, its luke skyywalker and the miami BASS. stripper music #1

n8RPS13

Florida rocks I can't wait to move back. The hurricanes really aren't that bad you get used to them just like earthquakes out here in cali haha!! Plus the scene there is just as good as out here just different. Check out the YouTube videos of my old car club back home Vehicular Lunatics.

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elemento1991

Ignorance is bliss, I never owned a Honda, parents have. I hate honda, and hate vtec. Im 19 years old, raced dirtbikes and now I wanna start modding cars since it's time to get one. It makes me mad that you gotta go through all this B.S. anymore. How does that say alot about me? My dad's friend just got rear ended bad, he had back damage. The surgeries he needed came to a total of $250,000... now idk about you, but I am not fucking around with the possibility of $250,000 of debt if an insurance company pulls out. I'll fuck around and take risks, and do crazy shit, but not with mass sums of money. Not with shit that can pull me and my family down, even if it's a 1 in 1000 chance.

Wongger

^^ ok, then don't get an sr20 or rb25. You came looking for answers but you don't seem to like them. So my advice to you is drive it with a KA.

doomviillain

+1

lol sig worthy.

There's plenty of girls out in LA, u just gotta know where to look. But very much agreed that ppl in LA have gritty attitudes...


To the OP: If u dont wanna deal with swap drama, stick with the KA, the car runs right? a motor is a motor they all serve the same purpose.

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Hashiriya415

My turbo needs hurricane power. Just gotta watch my warning danger to manifold sign and my floor bolts.

Toi

^^ Your no gear head then......Get a hybrid and DD it...

elemento1991

Well what I was asking was can it be done legally or not... That was the biggest part of what I wanted to know. I read that they were illegal. I see people all over the place with the swap, maybe a few people on here have crashed theirs. Maybe the insurance was being picky about covering them because their car looks alot different than a regular 240.

Alot of people are dicks on these car forums, not just Zilvia, and not all people either, but alot more than there really should be. Everyone's gotta start somewhere, if it means asking a few dumb questions then fuck it. Idk why everyone goes and gets so bent out of shape. I know how to drive alot better than the next guy on the streets, and I know dirtbike engines inside and out, but those were single cylinder carbureted N/A engines. Boost and ECU's are a new learning curve.

enkei2k

did you read this at all?

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240dream

just go ka-t,problem solved

elemento1991

Agreed... that's probably what i'm gonna do.

elemento1991

And not to go on but I don't hate the world I live in because I'm misinformed, although I am learning about this stuff still. It's because there's all this B.S. and paperwork you gotta look through to swap an engine in a car.

Meanwhile I know of two dope/crack houses with-in a 5 block radius in my town, My $600 snowboard gets stolen and I knew who did it, instead of showing up on their doorstep and kicking their ass I went to the police kus its the "right" way to do it. Six months later after the snow melts I get my board back, it was completely beat to shit and the kids got fined, guess who got the money? The police. My friends car got a chain tied to it and a truck drug it into a tree one night, the police show up and say "We think you wrecked it and your just trying to get insurance out of it." Meanwhile he had minimum tort and couldn't get any money from it, PLUS the front wheels we're locked the entire way up to the tree and the transmission ripped out from the car being in park.

That is why I hate the world we live in today, the cops will run you down for a burnt out tail light or being a few days past inspection, meanwhile this is going on and nobody does much about it.

ArBy25DeT

that came just in time lmfao

WanganNastyMachine

Dude, Im pretty sure you were lied to. EPA is the only thing thats stopping you from doing so, even then there is ways to get around smog or even through it.

datsunnazi

insurance companies have no idea what they are looking at... they dont ask what your engine designation is... they ask for the VIN, and pretty much can get whatever they want from that... done...

raz0rbladez909

Seriously? Stop acting like some elitist prick, you've been on here for what 6 months, and you think driving a 20 year old sport coupe makes you some sort of bad ass? Get off your high horse, you're no better than this guy, granted he asked shit that is readily available to him, but for you to go off on your Honda bashing rant makes you just as much as a douche.

If you are worried about legalities so much, why would you get into modding cars? 90% of the things that people do to their cars on here are illegal in some place or another. Whether HID's, lowering cars til they ride on the subframe, non DOT approved taillights, non federal engine swaps, all that shit is illegal, BIG DEAL, stop stressing so much over minute details, hell you don't even live in California, at least then I'd understand your concern, just go enjoy your damn car

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axiomatik

lamest 2nd post ever.


Back on topic: The truth is JDM engines are illegal at the Federal level. It doesn't matter what state or county you live in, if the engine was never EPA-certified, it is technically illegal in the US. SR's and RB's etc were never EPA certified, so they are illegal. Whether or not that matters is up to you. The fact of the matter is that you are likely to never get in trouble with the law, because local police are concerned with enforcing local and state laws, not federal laws. Only in locations with strict state laws, like California, does it ever really become an issue.

It is much more risky driving a car that was never certified for the US, such as S15's, R32's, etc. Several owners have had their cars confiscated for illegally importing them.

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NINJASPY

Insurance can cancel coverage at any time, even if after you get into an accident, and were covered at the time. You would need to find a lawyer to chase the insurance(more lawyers) to get coverage. Ask anyone... It happened to me twice, got into an accident, my insurance tried to sue, the other partys' insurance counter sued, my insurance dropped my case, the other insurance dropped their case. I got left with the bill. TWICE. with two different companies. Infinity, and Farmers. Goodluck.

sancosys

Why would they do anything with your family???? Your 19, OVER the legal age of being responsible for your actions. NOW:

Federal law says no BUT some states are lax on this but it doesn't change federal law. Even in CA there are provisions for a engine change.

mau5trap

as long as the car is registered you're fine.

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KAs14slider

I don't know of or have ever heard about any of these risks or having to pay crazy fines because your 240 has a different engine. Especially the stuff about having your house and other stuff taken away. When I read your first post in this thread I was like, wtf is he talking about? I don't know what part of PA you live in but I have never heard of this in my life. I'm 27 years old and never in my years of getting pulled over in my s14 has an officer ever asked to look under my hood. A lot of my friends have sr20's and they have got pulled over/gotten in accidents and never has an insurance agent or the police been like "hey, is that an illegal swapped motor in there". Insurance agents and police officers usually aren't car guys so when they look under the hood they will not tell the difference between ka, sr, rb, or whatever. They really don't care. The only place I have ever heard stories of legal problems with having a swap is in California. I think you are creating a problem where there isn't one. You will not get in trouble for having a swap. It's not "illegal". Only problem you will encounter is not maybe not being able to pass inspection but its not that hard to get around that. If somehow in some way any legal authorities complain about your motor you can just play dumb and say you bought the car like that.

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elemento1991

No no I wasn't talking about fines for an illegal engine. What I was talking about is if you are in an accident and someone is hurt, medical bills are HUGE for surgery. What I was concerned about is if your insurance company pulls your coverage and then you pay the price for the other parties medical bills.

I have decided to hold of for another month or two and see if I get into the apprenticeship program i am lined up for and move from there.

drift freaq

Ok first off the jackass before you telling you swaps are not illegal has gone again and made a broad generalization. Some swaps are llegal some are not. Like I had already explained but most of you just completely blew over. LOL

As far as Insurance goes ,no Insurance company is going to yank your coverage based on the engine under your hood.
Its just not going to happen. Insurance companies are pretty clueless about engines and they really don't care. Besides the fact that if you have paid your premiums they are contractually obligated to cover you to the limits of the coverage you have purchased.

If you are afraid of not having enough coverage pay for more. Its that simple.

you can get 100k/300k coverage if you want it. It will just cost you an arm and leg because your 19 years old and male.
Seriously if you have a ton of assets to protect, then you get higher coverage so people don't try to sue you outside your coverage.

Though you are a 19 year old which means your emancipated. That means your family cannot be held liable for your accidents. Of course if you are on your parents policy then they could be party because you are on the policy.
Though the danger of you racking up and accident that would shoot over 100k would take some skill on your part.
Can we say multiple cars hit at your fault with multiple injuries to the people in them? Likelihood of that happening? Not high.

So get over your worries get over yourself and get on with your life. Get decent coverage and you will be good.

Oh and if you are this concerned about an engine swap? Don't do it. You will just worry yourself to death.

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Toi

^^ Sums it up, if you are into the culture, then just like the old heads of the muscle car era you don't give a crap.......

Corbic

I am afraid you are wrong on that. They will deny coverage or payout on a car if they find out it was heavily modified. In fact, call any company and say "I swapped the stock 4-banger for a 500whp V8 and I need a qoute"... and watch as they say move along.

There is special insurance you can get for modified, high-risk and classic cars, but your typical Progressive/Gecko/Farmers will not care. They may pay out in an accident... they may also cancel you.

Typically if you wreck your modified car nobody will make a deal of it or even look into it... they give you $2,000 KBB for your $15,000 modified car and you buy it back for $400 and part it out or start over.