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92s13coupe · 07-16-2005, 06:12 PM

i think i had this in the wrong section before.

Whats up guys im new, i own a 92 240sx coupe. I live in O-town florida and i have shop thats willing to swap a s13 red top w/ 3inch exhaust, 3inch D/P, 3inch plumbing,intake and intercooler pipes, a huge FMIC that can support 700hp (precision turbo intercooler), blitz BOV,performance clutch,walbro 255 fuel pump,performance water pump, flex-lite dual fans, greddy profec-B EBC and a J30 LSD. for about $6,150. installed

My question is, will these supporting mods give me 250whp on 93oct?

Reason i ask is this is the projected hp # the shop manager is giving me however they dont have a dyno to prove it to me. They do however work on the ENJUKU cars. if you are familliar with enjuku that might mean somthing to you, anway are these guys blowing smoke up my arse or are they speaking truth?

Also is this huge intercooler really going to actually benefit the stock T25?

Thanks for your time and GO SIDEWAYZ OR GO HOME!!!!

TurK · 07-16-2005, 06:20 PM

it woud give you 250whp with the right amount of boost...but i say you can get all that shit for a lot cheaper then 6k...enjuku...good company yes

greddys13 · 07-16-2005, 06:22 PM

They are speaking the truth. You should be around that ballpark at 1bar or maybe even more.

TurK · 07-16-2005, 06:24 PM

before anyone gets the pleasure of doing it.....SEARCH NOOB!

mjjstang · 07-16-2005, 06:25 PM

yes that intercooler is overkill. will you be upgrading later. im going home.

Juujai · 07-16-2005, 06:27 PM

no it won't get you 250rwhp. at most 240rwhp. your stock maf and injectors run out. even if you get a s14 turbo it won't make much more hp because of the injectors. once you get bigger injectors/maf you'll be able to hit 250rwhp. 550cc will be go for up to 300hp. and look around for a z32tt maf or a q45 on the for sale section.

a front mount is nice. without one i wouldn't try anymore than 10psi. i'm not ssure about which intercooler you're talking about though.

92s13coupe · 07-16-2005, 06:29 PM

thanks for the replys guys....also enjuku was going to charge me 7k for just the sr20 swap alone thats with no upgrades....XAT in tampa wants 5800 thats for 240whp and a smaller intercooler and smaller piping.....so for about 300 bucks more im getting bigger piping and a much bigger intercooler. which is going to be essential when i get a bigger turbo and beef up my internals. seems like a no brainer to me...

greddys13 · 07-16-2005, 06:31 PM

^ my bro's s14 has basically the same set up w/ 256rwhp/252lbs torque.

92s13coupe · 07-16-2005, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juujai

no it won't get you 250rwhp. at most 240rwhp. your stock maf and injectors run out. even if you get a s14 turbo it won't make much more hp because of the injectors. once you get bigger injectors/maf you'll be able to hit 250rwhp. 550cc will be go for up to 300hp. and look around for a z32tt maf or a q45 on the for sale section.

thanks for the heads up im going to invest in some bigger injectors aswell as the MAF...unfortunatley i only deal in cash...so everything has to be local for me...i dont do credit cards...

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjjstang

yes that intercooler is overkill. will you be upgrading later. im going home.

does a horse have big balls? the answer is YES

Quote:

Originally Posted by greddys13

^ my bro's s14 has basically the same set up w/ 256rwhp/252lbs torque.

the s14 does differ slightly from the s13 if im not mistaken...i think the s13 has larger intake ports but a smaller turbo...but the s14 has VVT and slightly larger turbo which the s13 is lacking. how much of a difference does VVT make?

**ThatGuy** · 07-16-2005, 06:46 PM

92s13coupe, learn how to edit your posts. I gave you this one for free. Multiple posts one after another like that is considered Post Whoring. Thank You, and Welcome to Zilvia.net.

-Mod

92s13coupe · 07-16-2005, 06:48 PM

thanks for the reply guys...it helped me out with my decision i probably go with a AFC and some 550cc injectors. on top of what i want ...that should get me where i want to be for STAGE ONE of my s13 .

thanks again

sorry, ThatGuy i didnt know "knowings half the battle, GIJOE!!!!!"

rokmplutonium · 07-16-2005, 06:50 PM

WOW 7-6k for a redtop SR installed.
Here in California its
S13 SR20DET red top $3,500 to $3,800 installed.
S13 SR20DET blacktop $3,800 to $4,200 installed.
At J.Spec

92s13coupe · 07-16-2005, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rokmplutonium

WOW 7-6k for a redtop SR installed.
Here in California its
S13 SR20DET red top $3,500 to $3,800 installed.
S13 SR20DET blacktop $3,800 to $4,200 installed.
At J.Spec

actually its only 4500 for just the redtop....but im never satisfied with stock....so really the hole install i want done is about 5600 but you add taxes ect and your right around 6g's

sdtouge · 07-16-2005, 08:56 PM

no thart wont net you 250hp.

stock injectors are being pushed to ther limits at around 230 hp any more than that is hard on your injectors and you risk running lean and blowing something.

also higher octane liek you mentioned, will not gain you any horsepower at all.

greddys13 · 07-16-2005, 09:24 PM

sorry he has a s14 chasis w/ a s13 redtop motor to clarify. and those are the #'s.

JVD · 07-16-2005, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 92s13coupe

GO SIDEWAYZ OR GO HOME!!!!

Ur gay!!!! How much do you wanna bet that one month after this n00b gets swapped he'll be posting pics of his wrecked S13?

**ThatGuy** · 07-17-2005, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JVD

Ur gay!!!! How much do you wanna bet that one month after this n00b gets swapped he'll be posting pics of his wrecked S13?

Feb 2005, huh? Seems to me, you are still a n00b yourself. STFU or add something useful to the conversation. Blatant Flaming will cause you to be PINKED, how much do you wanna bet?

chmercer · 07-17-2005, 02:38 PM

SIX THOUSAND DOLLARs for 250 hp? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT. that is like the worst thing i have ever heard in my LIFE.

MakotoS13 · 07-17-2005, 04:39 PM

sounds like a lot of money for a used motor that is just as reliable as the one you're ditching

statik · 07-17-2005, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chmercer

SIX THOUSAND DOLLARs for 250 hp? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT. that is like the worst thing i have ever heard in my LIFE.

shops charge labor...not that complicated to figure out. for a motor swap w/upgrades that sounds about the going rate.

250whp # is pretty much a rough estimate of what that engine makes with a T25 at 15psi(depending on supporting mods of course).

92s13coupe · 07-17-2005, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JVD

Ur gay!!!! How much do you wanna bet that one month after this n00b gets swapped he'll be posting pics of his wrecked S13?

LOL hey kid i had a 99GSX i used to drift using e-brake that was before drifting came state side..never wrecked her..ive never been in a wreck in my life...and im 27yrs old...sorry you dont have drift skillz..must suck to be you.

Just cause im new to this site doesn't mean i dont know how to drive sidewayz you fucking idiot.

Also i know its RWD so its totally different than AWD so im going to practice in a empty parking lot for a couple months and get my technique down. This is how SMART people learn things with minimal risk.

92s13coupe · 07-17-2005, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakotoS13

sounds like a lot of money for a used motor that is just as reliable as the one you're ditching

yeah it was so reliable it descided to throw a rod...

P.S. Drifters get more pussy.

92s13coupe · 07-17-2005, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by statik

shops charge labor...not that complicated to figure out. for a motor swap w/upgrades that sounds about the going rate.

250whp # is pretty much a rough estimate of what that engine makes with a T25 at 15psi(depending on supporting mods of course).

damn, nice car bro

**ThatGuy** · 07-17-2005, 06:35 PM

You really don't catch on do you? I gave you the last one for free because I am a nice guy and was giving you the benefit of the doubt. But I guess I was being too easy on you. I warned you about post whoring. So here we go, less then 10 posts on Zilvia and you get PINKED. You have a month of restriction to fix yourself. Enjoy.

makav3li · 07-17-2005, 06:37 PM

6k is a lot of money for the hp

SochBAT · 07-17-2005, 10:00 PM

6k is a really good way to waste money on that swap. if it was 4.5k and 250rwhp, it'd sound good.

But 6k? Do you know wht you could do with that extra money?

Then again, its MHO. and the only one you should really be asking questions is to yourself. Do YOU think its worth it? And ask around town too.

24Zero · 07-17-2005, 10:10 PM

Bring your car to Birmingham. Clint will do your swap for $2000, Plus any upgrades. Those $$$$ in FL are outragous!

wootwoot · 07-17-2005, 10:20 PM

Quit making Florida look even MORE dumb jerk!

MakotoS13 · 07-18-2005, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 92s13coupe

P.S. Drifters get more pussy.

wow, what a fuggin mental giant. i can't believe you came up with that all by yourself. nevermind... you prolly saw it on a bumpersticker or sumthin.

Project D · 07-18-2005, 09:25 AM

I was gonna pay someone to do the swap, but now I think that I am just going to do it myself. I figure it may take longer and I may mess up a few things along the way. However, this is just a track and occasional driver car, so I already have a daily and can take my sweet ass time with this one.

07-16-2005, 06:12 PM	#1
92s13coupe Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 9 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	SRswap w/ upgrades HP predictions i think i had this in the wrong section before. Whats up guys im new, i own a 92 240sx coupe. I live in O-town florida and i have shop thats willing to swap a s13 red top w/ 3inch exhaust, 3inch D/P, 3inch plumbing,intake and intercooler pipes, a huge FMIC that can support 700hp (precision turbo intercooler), blitz BOV,performance clutch,walbro 255 fuel pump,performance water pump, flex-lite dual fans, greddy profec-B EBC and a J30 LSD. for about $6,150. installed My question is, will these supporting mods give me 250whp on 93oct? Reason i ask is this is the projected hp # the shop manager is giving me however they dont have a dyno to prove it to me. They do however work on the ENJUKU cars. if you are familliar with enjuku that might mean somthing to you, anway are these guys blowing smoke up my arse or are they speaking truth? Also is this huge intercooler really going to actually benefit the stock T25? Thanks for your time and GO SIDEWAYZ OR GO HOME!!!!

07-16-2005, 06:22 PM	#3
greddys13 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Seattle Age: 37 Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	They are speaking the truth. You should be around that ballpark at 1bar or maybe even more. __________________

07-16-2005, 06:31 PM	#8
greddys13 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Seattle Age: 37 Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ my bro's s14 has basically the same set up w/ 256rwhp/252lbs torque. __________________

07-16-2005, 06:46 PM	#10
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 41 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	92s13coupe, learn how to edit your posts. I gave you this one for free. Multiple posts one after another like that is considered Post Whoring. Thank You, and Welcome to Zilvia.net. -Mod __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

07-16-2005, 06:48 PM	#11
92s13coupe Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 9 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks for the reply guys...it helped me out with my decision i probably go with a AFC and some 550cc injectors. on top of what i want ...that should get me where i want to be for STAGE ONE of my s13 . thanks again sorry, ThatGuy i didnt know "knowings half the battle, GIJOE!!!!!" Last edited by 92s13coupe; 07-17-2005 at 06:18 PM..

07-16-2005, 06:20 PM	#2
TurK Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: FL Posts: 966 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	it woud give you 250whp with the right amount of boost...but i say you can get all that shit for a lot cheaper then 6k...enjuku...good company yes

07-16-2005, 06:24 PM	#4
TurK Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: FL Posts: 966 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	before anyone gets the pleasure of doing it.....SEARCH NOOB!

07-16-2005, 06:25 PM	#5
mjjstang Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,654 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	yes that intercooler is overkill. will you be upgrading later. im going home.

07-16-2005, 06:27 PM	#6
Juujai Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Rosemead, California Posts: 166 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	no it won't get you 250rwhp. at most 240rwhp. your stock maf and injectors run out. even if you get a s14 turbo it won't make much more hp because of the injectors. once you get bigger injectors/maf you'll be able to hit 250rwhp. 550cc will be go for up to 300hp. and look around for a z32tt maf or a q45 on the for sale section. a front mount is nice. without one i wouldn't try anymore than 10psi. i'm not ssure about which intercooler you're talking about though.

07-16-2005, 06:29 PM	#7
92s13coupe Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 9 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks for the replys guys....also enjuku was going to charge me 7k for just the sr20 swap alone thats with no upgrades....XAT in tampa wants 5800 thats for 240whp and a smaller intercooler and smaller piping.....so for about 300 bucks more im getting bigger piping and a much bigger intercooler. which is going to be essential when i get a bigger turbo and beef up my internals. seems like a no brainer to me...

07-16-2005, 06:50 PM	#12
rokmplutonium Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: LOS ANGELES Posts: 576 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	WOW 7-6k for a redtop SR installed. Here in California its S13 SR20DET red top $3,500 to $3,800 installed. S13 SR20DET blacktop $3,800 to $4,200 installed. At J.Spec

07-16-2005, 08:56 PM	#14
sdtouge BANNED Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: san diego Posts: 479 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	no thart wont net you 250hp. stock injectors are being pushed to ther limits at around 230 hp any more than that is hard on your injectors and you risk running lean and blowing something. also higher octane liek you mentioned, will not gain you any horsepower at all.

07-16-2005, 09:24 PM	#15
greddys13 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Seattle Age: 37 Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sorry he has a s14 chasis w/ a s13 redtop motor to clarify. and those are the #'s. __________________

07-17-2005, 02:38 PM	#18
chmercer BANNED Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: texas! Age: 35 Posts: 3,288 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	SIX THOUSAND DOLLARs for 250 hp? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT. that is like the worst thing i have ever heard in my LIFE.

07-17-2005, 04:39 PM	#19
MakotoS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Age: 38 Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sounds like a lot of money for a used motor that is just as reliable as the one you're ditching

07-17-2005, 06:35 PM	#24
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 41 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You really don't catch on do you? I gave you the last one for free because I am a nice guy and was giving you the benefit of the doubt. But I guess I was being too easy on you. I warned you about post whoring. So here we go, less then 10 posts on Zilvia and you get PINKED. You have a month of restriction to fix yourself. Enjoy. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

07-17-2005, 06:37 PM	#25
makav3li Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: san diego, ca Posts: 86 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	6k is a lot of money for the hp

07-17-2005, 10:00 PM	#26
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	6k is a really good way to waste money on that swap. if it was 4.5k and 250rwhp, it'd sound good. But 6k? Do you know wht you could do with that extra money? Then again, its MHO. and the only one you should really be asking questions is to yourself. Do YOU think its worth it? And ask around town too.

07-17-2005, 10:10 PM	#27
24Zero Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Alabama Age: 52 Posts: 335 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 24Zero Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Bring your car to Birmingham. Clint will do your swap for $2000, Plus any upgrades. Those $$$$ in FL are outragous! __________________ Jamie My Site www.24zero.com 30D \| 17-40L \| 27-70L \| 70-200L Some of my work

07-17-2005, 10:20 PM	#28
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 35 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Quit making Florida look even MORE dumb jerk! __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you

07-18-2005, 09:25 AM	#30
Project D Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Grand Junction, CO Age: 36 Posts: 179 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I was gonna pay someone to do the swap, but now I think that I am just going to do it myself. I figure it may take longer and I may mess up a few things along the way. However, this is just a track and occasional driver car, so I already have a daily and can take my sweet ass time with this one.

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