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GSXRJJordan · 05-21-2007, 11:17 AM

our 10am update is just 'got parts'... how lame is this guy...

I have sexy pics on Joe's website, go check out the 'free trial' (aka pics page).

Joe I love the fact that you're not trying to use the EGR, its ghey, and that's all there is to it. I know a few people with stock engines, no EGR or AIV, stock ECU, and they pass the sniffer test, so including the AIV even without a retune might be alright. Anyhow, retune's good for the soul, and should (hopefully) take you far, far away from the NOx cutoff line.

Resume pics/solid build please.

tknbkthrsdy4anfg · 05-21-2007, 11:42 AM

Sorry I would have pics but my camera is dead. in the meantime I'm pinning out the S13 DCC controller, I will post that later too.

J-Style · 05-21-2007, 12:48 PM

I have a good picture of your car Joe, but I don't know how to resize it! I will also get you a picture of my LegalJDM sticker soon!

tknbkthrsdy4anfg · 05-21-2007, 07:03 PM

Day 7
Monday May 21, 2007
Finally got my parts in today, but since my camera battery was dead first thing, I went ahead and pinned out all of the wires for the digital climate control I want to put in later. Once my battery was charged, I opened the box of gaskets, to take the valve stem seals out and down to the machine shop.

Then I took off the timing chain guide that holds the chain on, the top bolt came loose easily but the bottom one was a huge pain. I started to strip it out with the 6mm allen wrench, so I stepped up to a 1/4” allen, which also started to spin. Luckily however I had an impact remover which spins as you hit it and broke that sucker loose. Then I replaced the timing chain, it had a regular silver link instead of the gold one to line up the crankshaft with, so I took a paint pen and painted it gold. Then I lined it up with the marks on the crank, put the chain guide back in and carefully tightened the bolts back up.

Finally I torqued them down per the FSM. Next I got some Permatex Ultra Grey liquid gasket and added a bead to the timing cover.

At first I put in in the ridge of the cover, then realized I was being an idiot and put in the groove where it is supposed to go. I let it sit for about two minutes then slapped that baby onto the block and torqued it down.

Next I put on the new oil pick-up, put back in the upper baffle and added a bead of Ultra Grey to the oil pan,

then put in on the block and torqued it to spec.

Here you can see the difference between this pick-up and the one that came with the motor.

Next I added the lower baffle.

Then I added the water pump, thermostat housing and water neck, followed by the accessory brackets. Finally I torqued everything down. Now I’m just waiting on the head.

JustinStrife · 05-21-2007, 07:07 PM

Keep it up man. Been following you on Nico. Would love to get my S13 legal here.

tknbkthrsdy4anfg · 05-21-2007, 08:32 PM

I think the coolest thing out of this whole project isnt getting the stock 240 legal, its that my boss wants to get a 400hp SR street legal.
8==========

He's talking about doing stages.
Stock
stage one- intake, downpipe...
stage two- cams, header...
stage three- bigger turbo, bigger injectors...

sideview_180sx · 05-22-2007, 11:43 PM

you do realized that enlarged passage on the one that came with your motor was to increase the amount of oil the motor would take in. Thats a typical mod that has been used by j-land guys for a long time. if you watch the silvia/180sx tuning guide video. they show that. plus its been in options mags years ago.

tknbkthrsdy4anfg · 05-22-2007, 11:47 PM

your talking about hte pickup?

SDS13COUPE · 05-23-2007, 12:31 AM

Love for you and the nice build.

sideview_180sx · 05-23-2007, 01:38 AM

yup at the pick up

Dousan_PG · 05-23-2007, 02:03 AM

enlarge ur pick up
or get a late model one!

drifting_changed_mylife · 05-23-2007, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tknbkthrsdy4anfg

Does anyone else see whats wrong with this?

dude i hate HATE HATE!!!! ups! they really need to rethink the way they run their business. i hate tons of parts comming from ca to nyc and every time i would request that the package be signed for. and not only did the mother fuckers leave amost 1000 bucks in parts at the wrong address, they just left it on their porch!!!! and i mean ny is not the safest of all places so some crack head could have came and scooped up the boxxes and then what....... dude sometines i would rather use usps

anyways great job on the thread, its pretty awsome! keep the pics comming for us noobs!

liv2drift045 · 05-23-2007, 07:21 AM

I've had the same thing happen w/ usps (100's of dollars of parts left on a doorstep when they were supposed to be signed for)... it just depends on the person delivering the package... if they decide that they actually wanna do wtf they are getting paid for that day.

matixx · 05-23-2007, 08:05 AM

this is an awesome thread man! i hope this goes together well and you can get this legalized!!!

oh and i hate ups as well. i only use fedex now... i have shipped rare parts with only stretch wrap on them and arrived without a single scratch

and i have had packages lost and was taken care of really well.

Slidin240Wayz · 05-23-2007, 08:29 AM

Which late model pickup? Part number?

tknbkthrsdy4anfg · 05-23-2007, 08:30 AM

Im pretty sure he's talking about a S14 pickup, the one I took off looked like the one in the S14 FSM

bardabe · 05-23-2007, 08:52 AM

coming along clean really clean mate. congratulations keep it up. I wanna see this result. then maby we can start with my RB? =]

tknbkthrsdy4anfg · 05-23-2007, 09:06 AM

teehee sounds like a plan to me

except I saw ur set up, there is no sidemount in the pitcha!

EvilRB · 05-23-2007, 09:53 AM

Great thread!!! Keep up the good work and let us know how we can help!!

......other than money cause I'm a broke bitch at the moment.......

tknbkthrsdy4anfg · 05-23-2007, 10:43 AM

Well since I haven't gotten the head back, right now I'm tearing down the RHD dash harness to pull out the DCC parts, man this is a sticky mess. I guess Kouki 180's didnt have a subharness for the DCC, all there was was DCC

cmcdougle · 05-23-2007, 12:14 PM

Subscribed. This is exciting!

tknbkthrsdy4anfg · 05-23-2007, 08:32 PM

Day 8
Wednesday May 23, 2007
I started off today tearing the digital climate contol harness out of the JDM dash harness. Then I took apart the intake manifold and cleaned the plenum, runners and air injection and throttle body. They were all pretty bad.

Then I put in new gaskets and torqued everything back down.

Next I went to the machine shop and picked up my head. He cleaned up all the ports and gave it a 3 angle valve job. He also put in a spacer to help the valve seal and prevent valve float.

Next I put on the head gasket and set the head on top.

Next I went ahead and bled the lifters. I used two cups of motor oil and 1/16th inch diameter piece of filler rod to pump the lifters. I used one cup to bleed them in and another to store them.

It was a little tricky because each one had a sweet spot that would bleed alot out, but if you weren’t right on the spot, it would make you think it was done. However I got all 8 bled out and ready to put in.

Then I torqued down the head bolts per the FSM.

I didn’t actually use the spinner to torque them. Instead I brought out brutus the breaker bar.

Friday I should be able to get the top end back together and be one step closer to being done.

civilized_drifter · 05-23-2007, 09:27 PM

nice build, is that a 959 in the second to last pic?

tknbkthrsdy4anfg · 05-23-2007, 09:49 PM

Yea
msglgnth!

CKAMC · 05-23-2007, 10:28 PM

Wow, never seen someone actually this deep into cleaning. I am impressed!

tknbkthrsdy4anfg · 05-23-2007, 10:32 PM

I would have taken everything down to bare metal media blasting, thats what I did with my 5 lug swap, but I just dont have the money and my boss doesn't really care. I dont really either, when we start making more power I'll make it look mo bettah.

xblack240x · 05-23-2007, 10:36 PM

Keep us updated, haven't checked on this for awhile, but its looking so good so far, and I like your bosses idea

tknbkthrsdy4anfg · 05-23-2007, 10:42 PM

*ahem* my idea

4thHorse · 05-24-2007, 12:39 AM

Don't worry if the Porsche isn't in the shop when you get back. I might bring it back ... and with a full tank.

Yum-Yum · 05-24-2007, 04:52 AM

lol so you torqued them going by angle and turns? I'm not saying that doesn't work well but if any of your threading in your block was stretched, messed up it may throw things off for ya... but im guessing you had no problems.

did ya just go w/ stock studs?

05-21-2007, 11:17 AM	#61
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	our 10am update is just 'got parts'... how lame is this guy... I have sexy pics on Joe's website, go check out the 'free trial' (aka pics page). Joe I love the fact that you're not trying to use the EGR, its ghey, and that's all there is to it. I know a few people with stock engines, no EGR or AIV, stock ECU, and they pass the sniffer test, so including the AIV even without a retune might be alright. Anyhow, retune's good for the soul, and should (hopefully) take you far, far away from the NOx cutoff line. Resume pics/solid build please. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

05-22-2007, 11:43 PM	#67
sideview_180sx Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: somewhere north of mexico Posts: 1,538 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	you do realized that enlarged passage on the one that came with your motor was to increase the amount of oil the motor would take in. Thats a typical mod that has been used by j-land guys for a long time. if you watch the silvia/180sx tuning guide video. they show that. plus its been in options mags years ago. __________________ feel the rythym. feel the ride. get on up. it's bobsled time. COOL RUNNINGS!!! formerly sideviewcivic Save a Horse. Drift This Cowboy. AirBag Club Member #0014

05-23-2007, 01:38 AM	#70
sideview_180sx Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: somewhere north of mexico Posts: 1,538 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	yup at the pick up __________________ feel the rythym. feel the ride. get on up. it's bobsled time. COOL RUNNINGS!!! formerly sideviewcivic Save a Horse. Drift This Cowboy. AirBag Club Member #0014

05-23-2007, 02:03 AM	#71
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	enlarge ur pick up or get a late model one! __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

05-23-2007, 07:21 AM	#73
liv2drift045 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicagoland Age: 38 Posts: 1,483 Trader Rating: (7) Rides Gallery: liv2drift045 Feedback Score: 7 reviews	I've had the same thing happen w/ usps (100's of dollars of parts left on a doorstep when they were supposed to be signed for)... it just depends on the person delivering the package... if they decide that they actually wanna do wtf they are getting paid for that day. __________________ StreetSliders.Blogspot.com

05-21-2007, 12:48 PM	#63
J-Style Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: St. Helena, CA (707) Age: 32 Posts: 609 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have a good picture of your car Joe, but I don't know how to resize it! I will also get you a picture of my LegalJDM sticker soon!

05-21-2007, 07:07 PM	#65
JustinStrife Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Age: 41 Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Keep it up man. Been following you on Nico. Would love to get my S13 legal here.

05-23-2007, 12:31 AM	#69
SDS13COUPE Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Diego Age: 35 Posts: 1,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Love for you and the nice build.

05-23-2007, 08:05 AM	#74
matixx Join Date: May 2007 Location: new mexico Age: 38 Posts: 32 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	this is an awesome thread man! i hope this goes together well and you can get this legalized!!! oh and i hate ups as well. i only use fedex now... i have shipped rare parts with only stretch wrap on them and arrived without a single scratch and i have had packages lost and was taken care of really well.

05-23-2007, 08:29 AM	#75
Slidin240Wayz Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Everywhere Age: 36 Posts: 5,427 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Which late model pickup? Part number? __________________ Support Zilvia by purchasing a sticker!

05-23-2007, 08:52 AM	#77
bardabe Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Age: 31 Posts: 4,716 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: bardabe Feedback Score: 10 reviews	coming along clean really clean mate. congratulations keep it up. I wanna see this result. then maby we can start with my RB? =] __________________ Review Thread

05-23-2007, 09:53 AM	#79
EvilRB Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SO CAL Posts: 1,418 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Great thread!!! Keep up the good work and let us know how we can help!! ......other than money cause I'm a broke bitch at the moment....... __________________

05-23-2007, 12:14 PM	#81
cmcdougle Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 1,361 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Subscribed. This is exciting! __________________

05-23-2007, 09:27 PM	#83
civilized_drifter Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: spring hill, TN Age: 32 Posts: 584 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	nice build, is that a 959 in the second to last pic?

05-23-2007, 10:28 PM	#85
CKAMC Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Desert Age: 34 Posts: 4,804 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wow, never seen someone actually this deep into cleaning. I am impressed! __________________

05-23-2007, 10:36 PM	#87
xblack240x Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bay Area Posts: 555 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Keep us updated, haven't checked on this for awhile, but its looking so good so far, and I like your bosses idea Last edited by xblack240x; 05-27-2007 at 10:14 PM..

05-24-2007, 12:39 AM	#89
4thHorse Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 295 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Don't worry if the Porsche isn't in the shop when you get back. I might bring it back ... and with a full tank.

05-24-2007, 04:52 AM	#90
Yum-Yum Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 180 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	lol so you torqued them going by angle and turns? I'm not saying that doesn't work well but if any of your threading in your block was stretched, messed up it may throw things off for ya... but im guessing you had no problems. did ya just go w/ stock studs?

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