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Old 02-18-2010, 09:52 AM   #61
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mike mutha fucken essa....that's all I have to say.

LS bandwagon...more like smartwagon. Who wants to rebuild a track car every couple events....

I love everything about mazda's except their reliability and their steering angle....

You know you love those 10 point u-turns! hahah. most of them do cheap ass rebuilds for like 400 bux. lol. If you really want a rotary thats gonna last you a long time you gotta spend some serious cash but that engine will never go out. I'm glad I can't afford a gtr at the moment haha I wouldn't have to feel like at any second my tranny could go out. Its like walking on egg shells every time you drive the damn thing
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No, I'm a believer of the VQ. I've seen a stock GTR walk on a 450whp lighter R32 GTR. The only advantage an RB26 have over the VQ is that alot of tuners know the ins/outs of an RB26, there aint a whole lot of surprises left with the RB when you tune/mod it.
You realize gearing plays a key role right? The GTR is only quick til about 100 then it just fails....
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My 13b has never overheated.eats very small amounts of oil. I got a front clip from japan with 78k miles on the 13b turbo. S5 and that motor lasted a good 3 years. I had basic. Safc,fuel cut defense,3 inch dp to 3 inch straight pipe.stock turbo on 14 psi. It was street tuned. I don't know the dyno numbers. but hey neck to neck with a c5 z06 shouldn't be slow now should
It. Motor Is still running btw. It's sold and the guy Is running a gt35r On the same motor now. Ls swapped cars are not that fast Unless they are modded. and have the right gearing

You see just a lil old rx7 with exhaust. and big tires In the back to keep from spinning too much No ports Or anything

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Dude but you are talking a stock z06... that thing has every amenity in it... vs probably stripped rx7 with a 13b running 14 psi.....

So really you think a Z06 LS1 in a rx7 wouldn't smoke the same rx7 with a 13b on 14 psi? Really? I mean we are comparing engines not cars.....
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You realize gearing plays a key role right? The GTR is only quick til about 100 then it just fails....
So true... their short gearing 1-4 maybe 5th.... but yeah I agree with you there.... Thing is heavy as well...

Look at Off Topic thread I made. HV103 tuned R35 vs Mine's R34 COME ON.....
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Dude but you are talking a stock z06... that thing has every amenity in it... vs probably stripped rx7 with a 13b running 14 psi.....

So really you think a Z06 LS1 in a rx7 wouldn't smoke the same rx7 with a 13b on 14 psi? Really? I mean we are comparing engines not cars.....

YouTube - 13b Rx7 FD vs. V8 rx7 with nos Street race

Ls vs 13b. and my rx7 Is full street trim with a/c and heater.
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Dude but you are talking a stock z06... that thing has every amenity in it... vs probably stripped rx7 with a 13b running 14 psi.....

So really you think a Z06 LS1 in a rx7 wouldn't smoke the same rx7 with a 13b on 14 psi? Really? I mean we are comparing engines not cars.....
Zo6 I raced on the free was pretty damn loud so I'm assuming headers and exhaust.

Here Is another ls car vs 13b

YouTube - Mazda 13b Gt35 Rx7 FD vs. V8 Ls1 Rx7 w Nos. street race

I jus don't think Ls engines are all they've been hyped up to be
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Old 04-18-2010, 03:14 AM   #68
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dang that sucks lol i would find a big hill + friends (to help push)+ wall or ditch + verrry good insurance lol
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skyline gtr motor is plenty stong to handle more hp. but tuned for the wrong octane he detinated and broke a rod and probably a piston. its called dumb owners with to much money but dont know sh++ about cars. and ls motors are pussy motors 3 times the size of a sr and twice a 2jz but yet both my sr and my 2jz kills them.
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If he spent this much on an engine and it broke.. then he obviously didnt have some one do it right or somthing ... i mean 55k on an engine... i would make sure every torque on every single little bolt was perfect and i would check all the clearance on things.. i wonder if he just paid some half ass shop to do this.
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Old 04-18-2010, 03:44 PM   #71
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ls engines are so nice because you can put a cam, intake and exhaust on them and they can be well over 400whp
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dang that sucks lol i would find a big hill + friends (to help push)+ wall or ditch + verrry good insurance lol

lol seriously, just just be like the other GTR that crashed racing an evo and go the insurance fraud route
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Yeah right he needs a built RB30DETT. How the Australians do it =] With 1000 Elephant power.
Agree'd if hes fucked the engine and decides to do something different rock a rb30dett or rb26dett highley modified ...
its a shame about him overlooking specific details, if you have the money to buy a new gtr spend a couple of those bucks on a professional to overlook your tune
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I love all the LS hate. Just remember that tune you have that's pushing the limits of your engine, turbo, fuel system etc is trying to make the power of an engine that will make it without breaking a sweat for 200k miles. Your SR will walk on it? What about mod for mod? Push an LS to the same limits and now you're standing still wondering if you can push more boost without blowing your engine to keep up.

But as far as this topic goes... I guess the culture differences could have been avoided if the US and other countries didn't use a different octane rating
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Fuck all that, If he has the money and he wants to modify something, throw his "shell" to a representable shop, buy a gm crate LS7 Do the mods he wants and there ya go. That makes the most sense weight wise and power wise. Yeah yeah yeah, RB blahahaha VQ, SR,KA whatever, if he wants something thats going to live up to the NEW GTR then he should try out an LS7. He might likey. IMO.

It would be useless to throw a 200hp SR in a GTR even if its a 2.3 stroker making 500, it would never own up to or be close to a stock GTR. PLUS you can make an LS7 all wheel drive with a few mods. Hey if the guy has money why the fuck not? He could probably still do all of this and stay under 36 g's.

Truthfully its a waste of time to bench race about what he could put in the thing, if it was me i wouldn't have done that stupid ass shit in the first place.. but I would probably fork over the 36 for the shortblock and keep the GTR's PRIDE!
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next time ignore the r35 hype and just get an r34. imo better engines and wayyy better looking.
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Damn that sucks, he should lemme have it so i can throw a ka-t in it! haha
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I love all the LS hate. Just remember that tune you have that's pushing the limits of your engine, turbo, fuel system etc is trying to make the power of an engine that will make it without breaking a sweat for 200k miles. Your SR will walk on it? What about mod for mod? Push an LS to the same limits and now you're standing still wondering if you can push more boost without blowing your engine to keep up.

But as far as this topic goes... I guess the culture differences could have been avoided if the US and other countries didn't use a different octane rating
LS hate comes from the fact that everyone is bandwagoning it. And secondly comparing a 4 cyl turbo to a V8 is comparing apples and oranges. The closest thing nissan had at the time was a RB. And yes it's not cheap to build an RB but the same reliability can be had with proper tuning. But people dont have the $$$$ to do it and half ass it or the tuners don't know what the fuck they are doing. You gotta keep in mind that tuning in the us (in regards to imports) is relatively new in comparison to japan. Secondly if you want to go V8 to V8 compare the titan motor to the LS series motor. But then again who on here can afford a titan motor.

I'm not knocking the LS series motors. I used to have a 98 TA. They are efficient and cost effective, but does not suit everyone's needs. Plus boost is sooooo damn addicting.
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No, I'm a believer of the VQ. I've seen a stock GTR walk on a 450whp lighter R32 GTR. The only advantage an RB26 have over the VQ is that alot of tuners know the ins/outs of an RB26, there aint a whole lot of surprises left with the RB when you tune/mod it.

Dig or roll?? From a dig I can believe that hands down, the GTRs launch is completely unreal. From a roll (depending on speed), no i dont believe that. The R32 isnt just lighter, its MUCH lighter. almost, if not more than, 1000lbs lighter. 450whp is much more than what a stock R35 puts down.

Weight is a very very large factor with speed. Just as the GTRs technology is a very very large factor with its handling and launching ability.
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You also have to factor in gearing. The GTR is pretty much a dog after like 100 or so. I still believe the vehicle as a whole is overrated, overhyped and etc. But then again I am not a VQ believer.
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You also have to factor in gearing. The GTR is pretty much a dog after like 100 or so.
the GTR was limited to 112mph from factory wasnt it?
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the GTR was limited to 112mph from factory wasnt it?
not on, or near any race tracks apparently lol


The gearing is where the speed of a roll comes into play.
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not on, or near any race tracks apparently lol


The gearing is where the speed of a roll comes into play.
yeah it is only limited to 112 in japan unless it is on a track. And E-Warrior is right, it is all about gearing. give a bit of top end up to gain in acceleration.
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sounds like he answered his own question as to what happened.

I wouldn't say the GTR is overrated, but people do tend to think it is much more than it is. I rode in my buddies around the road course and the road handling abilities are amazing although is was on r comps. it's just feels to numb to me at times is my only complaint with it.
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He's a gtr owner in lebonon, jeez, obviously he has money to buy it from the us, and bring it there, he should quit his bitching and whinning, reach into his deep oil pockets and buy another one.... the lebonese people I know are filfthy rich
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