innovation

God you two are just keyboard warriors to the extreme. The internet is serious business!

Now lets end this with a obligatory

ForeignMuscle

I bought it mother fucker so it does matter. Got any more useless shit to say that you want me to correct for you?

YOUR OPINION is exactly what I said it was. Not facts. Just a bunch of bullshit about old guys this, and young cars that.

Sounds like I'm really bothering you.

ForeignMuscle

You want in on this *snip?

You just googled a picture of a shirtless guy. Dumb fuck.

innovation

COME AT ME BRO! DO YOU EVEN LIFT?!

^^ haha he doesn't even know meme's.

Oh well least he'll be waiting at the finish line.

exitspeed

Wow, this thread iss exactly why Zilvia sucks now a days.

What a bunch of absolute rubbish spewed in this thing.

This ^ Fucker here has said some of the dumbest shit I've red on here in years. Fuck, I don't even have the patience anymore to go back and quote you on all the 'tardedness and correct you. If this was 5 years ago I would have had the time and you'd have 3 red squares next to your name 20 minutes later.

Yes, I'm being an old cranky fucker.

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PeaceOnesxWai

Dude, did someone fk you in the a with no lube?

Seem like your a old man thats close minded and doesnt like people on your lawn.. Go scoot some squirrels while the younger people go out and have some fun.

and yes, subaru people are alot nicer. Go on Nasioc and people are more kindly to give a part of their time to give you a link of what your looking for then tell you to google it yourself.

OP asks whats a better option, out of the two cars i driven and a subaru that ive personally owned.. the Subaru is the better choice. Hes asking for everyones opinion, not "I wonder what ForeignMuscle wants me to drive?" thread

Im saying in general fact that women, (Hot women, not your skunka as hood rat) prefer European when it comes to cars.

I have my own place, own a business, buy my own cars.

DJ-of-E

I say buy a E46 BMW. I had little trouble driving up the mountains to Big Bear snowing and it's pretty darn well balanced overall. Plus, people will just look at the badge and be like "oooh, you gotz teh beamerz!" Also as practical as a subby.

Seriously, I'm confused as to why Subby vs Corvette. Totally apples and oranges. Might as well compare a Toyota Prius and a Ford F150. One can help you buy another car, and the other can tow another ar.

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PeaceOnesxWai

Its a stereo-type of what people view it as... same as your view as only douche bags drive subarus. Dont mean to flame on your favorite car but its just what the world view it as.


For god sakes DO NOT buy a E46. The cooling system in those cars are garbage. Plastic everything and they crack.

No offense that you already have it but the design is just flawed

DJ-of-E

None taken. Didn't have cooling troubles when I had it, but have heard about it. Traded it up for a Nissan 370z, that itself has its own problems

I do concur about the "plastics" everywhere.

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StryfeS13

Lol wow. This has became a shit fest real quick. First of all, I would NEVER buy a car for it's "prestige" or because it "picks up chicks." I don't need a car for that, I'm engaged anyway. And I would NEVER even CONSIDER buying a german car. And I really don't care about the community of owners either. It's not their car.

I liked the Corvette because it appealed to me, I don't care if old men drive it or whatever. In my honest opinion I want/wanted one because I really don't think it gets better than a car with one of the most if not -the- most reliable v8 available, a transmission that could survive an apocalypse, and it makes all this power with no turbo...no nothing...just pure NA.

The reason I was considering the STI is because I am open to everything and not simple minded like most of the people in this thread....Like, I really fucking hate Mazda's but I'd still test drive one to see if I liked it before saying it sucks. etc.

And yes, ForeignMuscle, I know what the mileage of the STI is, that's why I posted on here asking if it's a lot for the price.

Honestly I don't really care about handling so that argument doesn't mean much to me. I mean, I want the car to be responsive and not feel like an old Cadillac, but it doesn't need to handle like it's on rails. I test drove my friends FR-S and it handles AMAZING but I really do feel like I can run faster than it.

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jamg

I've seen 600whp E36's sell for around $10-12k ish.

HyperTek

back when i held a steady job a few years ago, i was looking at 350z, s2k, and to a lesser extent the EVO... Since I grew up around nissans, I was certain to look for a track model Z.. I never fell through with it.

Now I think the 350z looks a bit old, and the 370z's interior is a HUGE improvement in design.

The late model EVO just seems cheap to me, imo its a supped economy car.

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BrownDogg

At the end of the day... drive them both which it sounds like you've done or are doing. See which one you like better over all based off of whats important to you and get that one! Both are honestly badass cars in the grand scheme of cars that someone could buy.

As to the mileage issue with the Subaru. I would recommend looking up all the maintenance that is required around that mileage (like 100K miles) and make sure the proper things have been done. Ex: timing belt, spark plugs, fluids, etc. Just basic stuff. That will give you some good insight as to whether the guy truly took car of the car or not. Same goes for the Vette. How a person maintains their car says a lot about the car.

And who pissed in ForeignMuscles Cheerios! Sheesh! Watch out folks. He bought his girl a car so its important. In case you guys didn't know... He is kind of a big deal.

theronin

This thread is serious business.

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BossHogg

You really have to come to what is really needed. I mean is this just a pure fun car? A 4 door turbo sedan and a corvette are two totally different things. 4 seater, 4 door, 4 cylinder compared to a two seater v8 purely sold on its "racing" background? I mean should I buy a minivan or a crotch rocket? As much as I would never buy a corvette, I would have to say it wins this battle if it is purely a fun, weekend, back road cruising car. Not to take away from the subaru at all. I know what they are capable of, hell I was once in the market for one myself for practical utility reasons.

There are two many variables to look at. Do you have 2 stacks of high society just chilling to throw freely and do you plan on modding? If you can buy the vette out right and still have cash to "mod" or freshen it up, i think it would be much more of a fun car. RWD, v8, can make more power than needed "if" wanted, has plenty of racing background if you decide to take it down that path. Plus you can have that v8 rumble.

The whole stereo type thing is no reason to judge owning a car. Hell I watched the 240 scene blow up into this rice infested fanboy drift craze. Which resulted in watching many 240 enthusiasts sell their car because of fear of it becoming the new civic and how it would reflect their image back in the early 2000's. As long as you build it properly you always will be ahead of the "stereotype". If you truly like or care about something, you put in the extra time, money and effort.

choose, build, drive what you want man. It's just that simple. If it was me, I would invest the 20 large and in 20 years when I'm a douchebag old man with small penis in my midlife crisis, I would buy a brand new 2033 corvette. lol I got jokes.

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spooled240

that's how the EVO's are supposed to be: an econobox with a beefy 4g63, awd and brembos..I love it lol

drscooper

fuck everything said buy a lambo.

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Fuck everything else, buy a bicycle.

Initial_R90

Being I've owned a multiple 240's with swaps a LS240 a 350z a Evo and c5 Z06 and C6Zo6

I'm gonna go and say hands down the best motor is any LS series Great power from the start good MPG a (c5 has better mpg then a STI)

130k miles on Sti Is a tired car


if you have 20k to spend buy a fixed roof coupe for 17k and put the rest into it.
A guy down the street has a blower on his unopened auto LS1. oem heads,cam,crank and has over 1000 9 second passes on his car.

if its something you want to drive everyday I would not suggest the Vette

godsmack

As others have said take both for a ride and decide from there. Don't know if you're gonna daily or what kind of weather you encounter but in my area the vette is really only a weekend warrior car.

Now with me already driving a c5 and c6 zo6 I have to say they are an extremely awesome car to drive. Got a ride in a ZR already and that thing gave me full chub at 1/4 throttle. As far as the subbie I got to drive a 2012 wrx and that thing is also fun. In my opinion handles better than the the vette and the acceleration is fun but not as fun as the vette.

Overall my opinion would be subbie for dd and a vette for weekend fun.

TougeLove

WOW. this thread is fun lol.





anywho.

a 4dr or 2 seater? ummmm completely different cars.

I have a 2011 WRX and love it. STi wasnt that much greater considering I take mine camping, trails, etc. I didnt need an sti to do those things, plus i would rather build a faster WRX than spend an extra 5-8k on an sti depending if it is used or not.

I would have to agree with a few people that the SUBARU community is MUCH better than the corvette community as I HAVE BEEN TO BOTH MEETS. Friend ran a C6 ZR1 and got shit from other owners because they are too fat and bald to appreciate a nice car.

if you enjoy driving fast, do you want to stay on the mountain or slide off of it?


Have you tried Nasioc.com? there are FAR better deals going right now. 06-07 sti with under 50k miles for 19-21k.

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stinky_180

i take my completely stock subaru wrx wagon rallycrossing almost on a monthly basis, it is a fun motorsport.

you're obviously posting here because of your e-thug status, no one gives a sh!t about your opinion.

to the op, if you're looking for something more practical, a sedan/5 seater will be better suited for you. you can also get a wagon/hatch for more cargo space (even more with a roof rack). if you don't care about the above, get the corvette by all means.

for ~20k you have a lot of different options.

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4nmusle

Oh really? How long did it take you to read all those messages and type a response? lol

undercoverdjay

The dude even made another account to get around being pinked.
Truth! For 20K you can get a variety of nicer cars that aren't the "norm." I personally hate seeing the same cars over and over on the road, hence why I bought my 300ZX. I've gotten more looks, compliments, and questions about my Z32 than any other car I've owned.

I'm not saying you should buy a Z32, but it's one example of many that you can get for ~20k.

A lot of people get so hung up on HP numbers, they forget that something doesn't have to make boring 9 second passes all day to be fun. I found a mild 400whp SR20 powered S13 to be one of the most fun of them all. Boost came on strong and early, a strong powerband and power never fell off.

It was infinitely faster than the bolt on LS cars on the highway in my area. Way more fun to drive, easy to handle, and cheap to maintain.

I've driven Gen4 F-Bodies, one 478whp 04 Cobra, C5s/C6s, and they just have a disconnected feeling. Something about them feels incomplete. I got out of that Cobra and into my S14 and immediately felt more connected to the road with WAY more visibility and noticeably lower center of gravity.

These are just a few examples of how I gauge cars, but everyone is different. Even my Z32 vs a S chassis is an entirely different car. Drive them all, buy what you fall in love with. Period. I would never ask someone what I should or shouldn't buy, I only ask experts of each what to expect during ownership.

WanganRunner

Never heard that one before.

I'm not sure who said it, but STi's also understeer MORE than Evos from the factory, at least any Evo with AYC. The STi's entirely mechanical AWD system grips through corners whereas an Evo, when driven hard (again with AYC) will employ a very mild controlled slide.

Having been a WRX owner I will confirm that the 5MT is garbage. Get an STi with the 6MT or forget about it.


Find either a C5 Z06 or a normal C5 that someone has supercharged, either can be had for $20k.

A blown C5 is going to be in a different universe than an STi.

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driftracerx

go with the vette , sti owners all cry babies

TougeLove

oh the internet. Where one can simply spew his or hers illogical opinions and believes it to be the ending truth with no fact or real reason.

Care to elaborate?

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driftracerx

you just cried about my post , I think you just elaborated for me

towlie

Dang someone flush this shit down the toilet..

Mazdaspeed6 are chill. Nice all around car. Yes for the gf no for me tho

Corvette interiors to me just seem like they were taken directly from the Tahoe or something. So basic (in a bad way). The godly motor makes up for this, but it could still come to bother me personally

S2000 I've always hated!!... until i drove one. Boy were my eyes opened haha.

I'd say op just test drive and shop around and find something that truly appeals to u.. Asking zilvia may have been the wrong choice lol

driftracerx

I agree just test drive both of them