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08-10-2011, 03:19 AM | #31 |
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I went to a technical school with a dumbfuck who did time on home burglaries and another dude who used to steal hondas.. and those guys have kids/wives.. The guy who stole cars cleaned up and was cool, but the guy who did home burglaries, was still a lowlife piece of shit. Dude told me how he stole a ps3 /just yanked it out of the entertainment center and it came crashing down, woman comes out screaming and he booked it. He already did time for that shit but man i wish I could do something when I hear these type of stories..
I don't think the law is hard enough.. just a slap on the hand for some little time doesn't seem like much. Fuckers don't change/learn, they need to catch a hot one to the face. Id go for a bat or knife if someone broke into my home. I wouldnt bust out like "Hey you!"... it try to sneak around and be quit and catch them off guard.
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08-10-2011, 12:42 PM | #33 |
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Have you guys heard the story here in CA where a burglar broke in a home and was damn near killed by the owner's dog?
No jail time. Dog put down. Home owner sued and LOST. I thank god I study aikido. I can subdue the guy while causing a shit ton of pain without leaving any permanent injury. Or I can break his fucking arms. lol
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08-10-2011, 12:56 PM | #34 | ||
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I probably would have demolished that guys nose. There is near victimless theft like stealing from a department store. It's wrong but whatever, I hope you get caught. Then there is life ruining home invasion type shit. No remorse.
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08-10-2011, 01:07 PM | #35 |
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Shoot them no questions asked. Floridas Castle Doctrine is awesome and im even more happy they extended it to your vehicle. Rather upset that OC didnt pass.
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08-10-2011, 01:37 PM | #36 |
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my neighborhood got hit hard last year. i was leaving for afghanistan and my brother left for quatar leaving my wife, my sister in law and the two kids home alone. i took all the weapons out of the house so the kids wouldnt get into em. i took 2 big pelican cases full of ar15s, saiga 12 guages, and my pistols. plus my 338 which didnt fit in a case. also grabbed 14 cans of ammo and loaded it all into my wifes jeep to take off site. my neighbors had the biggest WTF face ive ever seen. needless to say, no one has messed with them yet
when im home i keep a loaded ar15 short barrel (10.5) with a strobing flash light, laser, and CCO (close combat optic) for you newbs. i use 556 frangibles to cut down the collateral damage. right beside my bed. dont worry gotta high speed chamber lock for the kiddies who dont even know it exists |
08-10-2011, 01:55 PM | #37 |
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Depends..some kids broke into our house a few years back and stole my little brothers guitar..if i saw some kids just being stupid. im not gonna shoot them, especially if they are just tryna get away n not harm me. If someone breaks in at night , gotta protect my 4 month old son n gf..that person is getting the 12 guage
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08-10-2011, 02:16 PM | #38 |
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I agree, florida's law is probably one of the most open that extends to the grounds of your home IF someone attempts to enter your house forcibly. It also extends to motor vehicles, tents, lawn sheds, temporary or permanently attached structures, as well as Porches. It's about a broad as it gets.
My dogs are a critical part in my defense plan. My german shepard and my lab roam the house at night and sleep lightly. In my testing, I'll need about 10 seconds between a forcible entrance/ dead sleep and a ready defense position, round in the chamber and safety off. Unless they know the floor plan of your house, the dogs and closed doors should buy me that time. I keep my plate carrier under the bed along with my weapon of choice so i can toss it over and velcro it later. My plate carrier has extra magazines so I can go from dead sleep to armored with 100 rounds and a loaded weapon. Expect it to be a chaotic situation and stick to your practiced plan. Setup your house so you have control over shooting lanes with furniture. That way you won't worry about over penetration. Some people even go far enough to put plate in the walls and in furniture. Work your house clearing each room (you don't know where they are remember) in advance and work out how to handle tough areas. Stick to the walls. Practice Practice Practice. If you do a couple of practice runs, in an afternoon you'll be 2x as prepared as you were before. My great grandfather had to shoot someone robbing his store, He was justified in every right but it still tore him up. Don't forget to seek out a psychologist if you ever undergo a situation like this. It is traumatic, it won't be like woah I shot a guy.. cool huh.
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08-11-2011, 02:51 AM | #40 |
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SD shooting - "If you in any way feel threatened"
Deputies: Homeowner's Son Kills Intruder in Salinas - Central Coast News KION/KCBA
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08-11-2011, 05:14 AM | #41 |
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I'd do it what I had to do to keep my wife safe, if that means having to shoot someone then so be it. Like a few other people said, its your word against a dead guys, you feared for your life, you thought he was gonna kill you and your family, thats all you say then lawyer up.
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08-11-2011, 06:04 AM | #42 |
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Don't shoot him. Kill him. The trouble starts when the burglar lives and takes your ass to court. I've heard horror stories of burglars sueing homeowners but I've never heard of homeowners going to jail after they kill a burglar.
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08-11-2011, 09:23 AM | #43 | |
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This. Practice practice practice. Just got back from a 2 week long weapons training and tactics course here in South Carolina with Threat Management Group. Great training. I know not everyone has the opprotunity or money to do it but if you do... get it! |
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08-11-2011, 09:30 AM | #45 |
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hes wearing ABUs NICE!!! and no one wears those things unless they have too. that means Air Force right? unless your AF SF? either way thats good shit man. id love to get into that class, been looking at it forever although i did a lot of what you posted with the army in ft polk. i love that shit
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08-11-2011, 10:03 AM | #46 |
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most people havent been in this situation so its hard to tell what you would do. if i woke up to some guy trashing my place and breaking in to each room, i would drop his ass instantly. unless he's a supercriminal wearing armor, hes not getting up from the .45
im actually going to the gun range tomorrow with the gf so she can learn to shoot some guns. if some guy breaks in and shes alone, she has to defend herself. |
08-11-2011, 10:25 AM | #48 |
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If someone broke into my house i would...
1.Restrain him 2.Take him out to my car 3.Drive to a open parking lot,{with my wife holding him at gunpoint while i drive} 4.Tie him to a light post 5.Drift into his ass at high boost 6.Piss on the remains 7.Buy a new 240 |
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08-12-2011, 12:13 PM | #57 |
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What's in your house is none of their business.
You shouldn't live your life based on the idea that some amoral ass hole is going to come ruin it.
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08-12-2011, 12:23 PM | #58 |
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True....but running a growing operation in your house certainly makes your life a lot more risky.
Most of the responses in this thread suggest that that is exactly how everyone is living their life.
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08-12-2011, 08:09 PM | #60 |
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Meh, I wouldnt kill someone who broke into my house unless they were actively trying to harm my friends or family, or really anyone for that matter. Id probably try to intimidate them with my gun, but there is no way I would just burst in there flip on a light and start spraying bullets. For most (notice I said most) crooks thats enough persuasion to stop and pay the f*ck attention. Call 5-0 and the incident is over.
BUT, if I see them starting to point a firearm at myself or anyone else its game over for em. Id probably end up feeling like shit, and it may take a long time to get over. But the bottom line is that when your life is at stake, it's them or you. I have a good family friend who's a cop in my home town and he killed a guy a few years ago. He chased some guy on a motorcycle until he dumped his bike, when my friend told (yelled) him to get his hand in the air the guy drew a pistol and my friend shot him dead. It sucks, hes a really great guy and one of the few police officers in our area that I feel is doing his job the way it should be done, and I know it wasnt easy on him or his family. The last thing I want to ever do is kill someone. But if put in the situation where it's necessary, I wouldnt hesitate. |
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