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Verbal_S13 · 05-11-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

^^^ Using a slightly oversized sleeve and pressing it in (as long as you don't crack the puck) sounds like the most legit way to do it...

... however I still am a fan of 3M Window Weld-filled stockers. Bake 'em in the oven on 250* for a few hours and throw em in - gives the perfect amount of "harshness/feel", and it's definitely the cheapest. Motor vibrates the inside (can't feel it, but you hear it) on startup/low idle, but shifter never moves, and you never see the engine torque in the bay while revving.

I will do this for every engine I use in 240s from here on out.

My wife would kill me if i put anything in her oven.

(no pun intended)

redsx13 · 05-12-2009, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

^^^ Using a slightly oversized sleeve and pressing it in (as long as you don't crack the puck) sounds like the most legit way to do it...

... however I still am a fan of 3M Window Weld-filled stockers. Bake 'em in the oven on 250* for a few hours and throw em in - gives the perfect amount of "harshness/feel", and it's definitely the cheapest. Motor vibrates the inside (can't feel it, but you hear it) on startup/low idle, but shifter never moves, and you never see the engine torque in the bay while revving.

I will do this for every engine I use in 240s from here on out.

do you think that would hold up to consistent track use?

how about taking the stock mount and putting bolts through them? (i know this statement is kinda vague, let me know if there is need for further explanation)

GSXRJJordan · 05-12-2009, 03:38 AM

I threw mine on a cookie sheet with aluminum foil over it... the girl never even knew I'd used it

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsx13

do you think that would hold up to consistent track use?

how about taking the stock mount and putting bolts through them? (i know this statement is kinda vague, let me know if there is need for further explanation)

My mounts have held up great - I've put a few thousand street miles and a couple track days (and canyon runs) on them, and it's just as stiff as the day I dropped the motor in. I can't see what could possibly go wrong, as long as the Window Weld (polyurethane) has a good bond to the rubber - wash/degrease them first, obviously. I'd definitely say it's got a better chance of holding up than a hockey puck with a hole in the middle.

There's no need for bolts through stock mounts, there are already correctly-offset bolts through the center for engine and crossmember, and any more bolts through the sides or whatever would just rip up the rubber and kill the damping of the mount.

redsx13 · 05-12-2009, 08:44 PM

the bolts wouldn't replace the mounting bolts, they would be in addition to, and would only hold the mount together they wouldnt hold the motor to the frame.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

I threw mine on a cookie sheet with aluminum foil over it... the girl never even knew I'd used it

My mounts have held up great - I've put a few thousand street miles and a couple track days (and canyon runs) on them, and it's just as stiff as the day I dropped the motor in. I can't see what could possibly go wrong, as long as the Window Weld (polyurethane) has a good bond to the rubber - wash/degrease them first, obviously. I'd definitely say it's got a better chance of holding up than a hockey puck with a hole in the middle.

There's no need for bolts through stock mounts, there are already correctly-offset bolts through the center for engine and crossmember, and any more bolts through the sides or whatever would just rip up the rubber and kill the damping of the mount.

DDDsquad_s13panda · 05-22-2009, 03:30 AM

i just bought all the stuff for the hockey puck mounts and i spent about $25-$30.

i dont think i saw a "WRITE-UP" about the "how-to's" on hockey puck mounts, but just a bunch of discussion, and a few pictures on the "DIY" thread, so i guess you cant really say its a "WRITE-UP"

anyways, im gonna be bold enough to do this from scratch, and probably try and reconstruct from what other have done for the better and see what i can improve it on..

and i will take pictures and step by steps.. wish me luck!!!! =D

worangejuice · 05-22-2009, 04:49 AM

that dude gavin had some awesome home made mounts a while back he's also from Albuquerque and built a badass S14, the screen nam escapes me.........

Bigsyke · 05-22-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal_S13

Now I must ask.... are you fuckin serious? Have you ever done anything aside from pick up a magazine? It's called a pinion angle... you measure it before and after. I use stainless sleeves... so if it did fall apart, it would sit on the sleeve. Quit being a sheep.

I am fuckin serious, stainless sleeves dont mean jack fucking shit. I have 4 different hockey puck setups sitting in a fucking bin right now. My guess is none of you have noticed the added wear on the tranny mount, esp if your using a peak performance one. The inside bearings that give the tranny mount the proper squish will warp to hell with pucks. Took 1 trip, with 1/2 torque because the different non correct angle the engine sat because these cheap ass fucking hockey pucks.

So you spent $$$ on sleeves, yet still in the back of your mind, you have some ghetto rigged bolt going through a set of pucks, that doesnt even fit flush with the front crossmember/engine, thus requiring washers, or just being plain ghetto.

These were plain awfull, and the vibration was horrid. JGS or filling your OE mounts are 100x better. Fill your mounts.

GSXRJJordan · 05-22-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsyke

These were plain awfull, and the vibration was horrid. JGS or filling your OE mounts are 100x better. Fill your mounts.

Quoted for MF'n truth. /Thread.

whyrun? · 05-22-2009, 09:34 PM

There is a writeup on driftopia

whyrun? · 05-23-2009, 06:57 PM

i will be doing mine tonight if anyone wants a writeup.

Bigsyke · 05-24-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by whyrun?

i will be doing mine tonight if anyone wants a writeup.

take some nice up close pics please! Your filling your OE mounts in the mean time right?

whyrun? · 05-24-2009, 03:38 PM

no. i went the window weld and 3 events and they were done.

i finished last night on the pucks. i will take some pictures today.

Bmadd · 05-25-2009, 08:27 AM

I made my own. I measured the sizes of the old rubber one, and bought a piece of rolled high tensile steel threaded rod, plexiglass, grade 8 nuts, 2.5 inch exhaust pipe, poly mold release, and some 90 duro poly. I cut the exhaust pipe the thickness i wanted, put the rod through, fille with poly, and sandwiched with the plexiglass. clamped them tight and let them set, and they popped right out. I'll do a wriet up and post some pics later today. they are great. nice and solid, but not harsh at all. the poly dampens well. Great feel and smooth power delivery.

*hOngsterr* · 05-25-2009, 10:44 AM

nicee,
waiting on the write ups.
guy that sold me my 240 didnt have
any mounts. i never knew til my mech. told me about it
lol

ms!3 · 05-25-2009, 01:05 PM

I did this a couple years back. Really cheap mod, pretty much the same as buying solid aluminum mounts.

It sucks for DD though. Everything vibrates, even your seats. After about 6months i just picked up some nismo mounts. Wouldn't be bad at all for a track car though.

Most writeups only use 2 pucks. Sets the motor WAY to low. If i were ever to do it again i'd use 3.

whyrun? · 05-25-2009, 04:54 PM

ill post mine up tonight.

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05-22-2009, 03:30 AM	#35
DDDsquad_s13panda BANNED Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fontana, IE. Age: 34 Posts: 550 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	i just bought all the stuff for the hockey puck mounts and i spent about $25-$30. i dont think i saw a "WRITE-UP" about the "how-to's" on hockey puck mounts, but just a bunch of discussion, and a few pictures on the "DIY" thread, so i guess you cant really say its a "WRITE-UP" anyways, im gonna be bold enough to do this from scratch, and probably try and reconstruct from what other have done for the better and see what i can improve it on.. and i will take pictures and step by steps.. wish me luck!!!! =D

05-22-2009, 04:49 AM	#36
worangejuice Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: WeeeHoooo,CA Age: 41 Posts: 1,519 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: worangejuice Feedback Score: 10 reviews	that dude gavin had some awesome home made mounts a while back he's also from Albuquerque and built a badass S14, the screen nam escapes me.........

05-22-2009, 09:34 PM	#39
whyrun? BANNED Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ME Age: 35 Posts: 374 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	There is a writeup on driftopia

05-23-2009, 06:57 PM	#40
whyrun? BANNED Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ME Age: 35 Posts: 374 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i will be doing mine tonight if anyone wants a writeup.

05-24-2009, 03:38 PM	#42
whyrun? BANNED Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ME Age: 35 Posts: 374 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	no. i went the window weld and 3 events and they were done. i finished last night on the pucks. i will take some pictures today.

05-25-2009, 08:27 AM	#43
Bmadd Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Clarksville TN Age: 40 Posts: 41 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I made my own. I measured the sizes of the old rubber one, and bought a piece of rolled high tensile steel threaded rod, plexiglass, grade 8 nuts, 2.5 inch exhaust pipe, poly mold release, and some 90 duro poly. I cut the exhaust pipe the thickness i wanted, put the rod through, fille with poly, and sandwiched with the plexiglass. clamped them tight and let them set, and they popped right out. I'll do a wriet up and post some pics later today. they are great. nice and solid, but not harsh at all. the poly dampens well. Great feel and smooth power delivery.

05-25-2009, 01:05 PM	#45
ms!3 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA Age: 31 Posts: 1,563 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	I did this a couple years back. Really cheap mod, pretty much the same as buying solid aluminum mounts. It sucks for DD though. Everything vibrates, even your seats. After about 6months i just picked up some nismo mounts. Wouldn't be bad at all for a track car though. Most writeups only use 2 pucks. Sets the motor WAY to low. If i were ever to do it again i'd use 3.

05-25-2009, 04:54 PM	#46
whyrun? BANNED Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ME Age: 35 Posts: 374 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	ill post mine up tonight.