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Touge_drifter · 02-04-2011, 11:13 PM

A friend suggested I post on here for my engine build & Its a S14 SR20det

here is what im working with.

Nissan s14 throttle body upgrade (NA 60mm)
Nismo engine bearings
Nismo clutch slave cylinder
Nismo stainless steel clutch line
Nismo clutch pivot fork bolt
Nismo engine/transmission mounts
Balanced & Blue printed
Custom coatings (dome & skirts)
Tomei 2.2liter stroker kit (88mm)
Tomei metal head gasket (1.2mm)
Tomei Procam camshafts (260in./260ex.)
Tomei valve springs
Tomei bronze valve guides
Tomei adjustable exhaust camshaft gear
Tomei oil cap
Tomei spark plug cover
Crower titaninum retainers
Crower stainless steel valves
Custom port & polish
Arp block/cylinder head studs
Greddy intake manifold (version 2)
Greddy oil pan
Greddy oil catch can
Greddy remote oil cooler (14 row)
Greddy oil filter relocation kit
Greddy engine pulley kit
Greddy Greddy rocker arm stoppers
Custom front mount intercooler
Custom intercooler piping
HKS bolw off valve (flat black)
HKS iron sleeves
Splitfire direct coil packs
Koyo aluminum radiator
FAL dual electric fans
Samco hose
Sard thermostat
Tomei fuel psi regulator
Bosch 1000cc fuel injectors
Power enterprise engine belts
SPEC Mini twin system(sponsorship)
Taka stainless steel turbo lines
Custom turbo outlet pipe
Tial wastegates 38mm
Full-Race turbo manifold
Forgerd performance hybrid twin scroll turbo (classified a/r)
XS engineering down pipe with catalyst converter delete
AEM EMS stand alone w/map conversion
Optima deep cycle battery
Walbro 255glph fuel pump (x2)
Swirl pot w/-AN fuel lines

Block (HKS) sleeved

Tomei 2.2 kit

Crank shaft in

Bottom end assembled

Touge_drifter · 02-04-2011, 11:15 PM

Other shots of the pistons and rods

tuktuk23 · 02-09-2012, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Touge_drifter

Other shots of the pistons and rods

sexy ass pistons...id t-bag em!!!

clean shit man

S-Nation S13 · 02-04-2011, 11:17 PM

looking good bro, looking good

T-FAST · 02-04-2011, 11:18 PM

very nice!

Touge_drifter · 02-04-2011, 11:24 PM

Head

azsr20det · 02-04-2011, 11:31 PM

you nutsack lol
wish i could afford the tomei bottom end kit...
im stuck here slowly piecing everything together
so far i got camshafts.

cant wait to see where this goes

BoostSlideWayz · 02-04-2011, 11:40 PM

Fuck this makes me feel like a failure

Touge_drifter · 02-04-2011, 11:58 PM

Head bolted down

Thanks to SPEC for this AWESOME clutch

satek · 02-05-2011, 12:13 AM

Major $$$ build

Drifting-pedobear · 02-05-2011, 12:58 AM

lol that clutch is so thick.
16 plate clutch all siiick

right on man, this motor is one of the few that can be called "fully built"
looking forward to numbers.

NoPho4u · 02-05-2011, 01:01 AM

Looks pretty damn impressive with all that Tomei stuff but then a spec clutch...

Om1kron · 02-05-2011, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoPho4u

Looks pretty damn impressive with all that Tomei stuff but then a spec clutch...

lololololololololololol. spending tons of money isn't impressive.

NoPho4u · 02-05-2011, 08:35 AM

Spend 5K on some baller ass wheels

Top it off w/ some LING LONG TIRES LOL

Pandapants · 02-05-2011, 08:39 AM

mmmmm legitimacy

Touge_drifter · 02-05-2011, 10:38 AM

I like spec, Plus its free through my sponsorship. I had their modified 350z version (stage 3 + w/flywheel) on this engine before I did this build. As for the rims I have these.

Super advan version 2 front are 18x9 w/+15 and rear are 18x10 w/-8. it took me awhile to get (9 1/2 months) with the custom color (D1 spec gunmetal) and size.

Touge_drifter · 02-05-2011, 10:42 AM

Greddy fuel rail and 1000cc top feed injectors

Greddy S14 sr20 version 2 high port intake mainfold

NoPho4u · 02-05-2011, 10:42 AM

I was just giving you a hard time having all this top notch stuff but then having it topped off with the weakest link tho even if it was free. Of course it's clear money isn't an issue on your choice of parts. Why not go with a reputable brand with your own money.

OS Giken
Ogura Clutch
Nimso Copper Max
Exceddy

JSimpson · 02-05-2011, 10:50 AM

mannn should have went with the VE head. Stock Neo VVL head will outflow the best DET heads and has no rocker arms so you can rev it to the moon and never have a problem while your rockin 280 cams stock haha!!!

dr1ft32 · 02-05-2011, 10:52 AM

Let's see the car

jacobs13 · 02-05-2011, 10:53 AM

Who cares? ^^^^

But nice build man, I have the same sleeves, but you must to have robbed a bank to buy all this. Looking forward to see numbers and that turbo your hiding

Touge_drifter · 02-05-2011, 10:57 AM

I like spec, its holds 1300tq and has stock pedal feel. what makes spec the weak link? Wouldn't have minded the OS Giken.....It would match the transmission gears Im going with. The Nismo has a harsh engagement and spec is all I have ever used even before the sponsorship.

NoPho4u · 02-05-2011, 11:02 AM

Which Model Nismo are you referring to?

Also Spec clutch's are known to be budget minded american clutch which often times fail. Just do a search on here on their brand in general and you will find countless clutch's that didn't live up to their expectations.

I just felt all this money you spend on these upgrades almost goes to waste if your clutch isn't up to par.

shiftdrift · 02-05-2011, 11:02 AM

with this much money, i'd sell the built head and go p12 head.

Touge_drifter · 02-05-2011, 11:04 AM

I didnt think about the VE head. Didnt know if it would work on a S14 sr20det. heres the car

NoPho4u · 02-05-2011, 11:05 AM

Seen that car on here before. What are the details on the aero?

GabeS14 · 03-24-2011, 06:55 PM

Hey I am doing a very similar S14 stroker build, on a slightly smaller budget but our end goals are pretty similar, and being your also using Bw turbo and full race manifold, I got exited and am following your thread!

I purchased a Brian Crower 2.3lt strokerkit,
JWT 275cams, retaining the vtc...

still very undecide if I go 90bore or 89bore on the pistons though, so I am holding off on that decision for a bit.....

most probable that I go with 89 in case I need a rebuild.
ordered sleeves, arp everything studs, with wpc coating on all the bearings and internals.
going BW efr 7670turbo twinscroll, and full race manifold.

ported and polished head.
goal is 600whp.

questions:I noticed you are using the sr tranny? do you really think it'll hold up to 500hp?
I would recommend doing the z32 tranny swap, you can do it pretty cheap. and will hold up to the hi hp numbers.

also yes, like others stated, if you use a VE head you can rev up to 9k and the head flows much better=more power.
hit me up if your interested, I believe you can aquire a ve motor for about $600-800 and buy the mazwork kit to make it work

looking forward to seeing how your motor behaves as yours will be done before mine is even machined lol..
good luck with everything and Ill be asking lots of questions.

Touge_drifter · 03-24-2011, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GabeS14

Hey I am doing a very similar S14 stroker build, on a slightly smaller budget but our end goals are pretty similar, and being your also using Bw turbo and full race manifold, I got exited and am following your thread!

I purchased a Brian Crower 2.3lt strokerkit,
JWT 275cams, retaining the vtc...

still very undecide if I go 90bore or 89bore on the pistons though, so I am holding off on that decision for a bit.....

most probable that I go with 89 in case I need a rebuild.
ordered sleeves, arp everything studs, with wpc coating on all the bearings and internals.
going BW efr 7670turbo twinscroll, and full race manifold.

ported and polished head.
goal is 600whp.

questions:I noticed you are using the sr tranny? do you really think it'll hold up to 500hp?
I would recommend doing the z32 tranny swap, you can do it pretty cheap. and will hold up to the hi hp numbers.

I chose tomei because for their quality, the crower kit is nice and you'll like it. I chose the 88mm pistons because anything bigger then 89mm and your to lose to the water jackets. I started with a BW hybrid turbo, but after 4 cars had problems with them I chose something else. Im using a FP hybrid GT3076 twinscroll . I could have done the FP 3582 and gone for 600+ but the powerband was way too peaky. I got the WPC treatment and then got the coatings on the dome/skirts. as for the the sr20 transmission, Im running OS Giken internals (gears and center shaft) I've had nothing but problems with a Z32 TT transmission when I had my 536whp '90Z. as for the VE head.....Im good. I dont need 9K rpms, mine is great for from 3200-8500k. I didnt wanna deal with swapping everything over to that head and running all different stuff. Ill keep everyone updated........... This summer is going to be GREAT!

GabeS14 · 03-24-2011, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touge_drifter

I chose tomei because for their quality,
the crower kit is nice and you'll like it.
I totally understand it's all about budget!
I chose the 88mm pistons because anything bigger then 89mm and your to lose to the water jackets.
didnt understand this part, can you explain? did you sleeve your motor? thought you did..I started with a BW hybrid turbo, but after 4 cars had problems with them I chose something else. Im using a FP hybrid GT3076 twinscroll . I could have done the FP 3582 and gone for 600+ but the powerband was way too peaky.
I am hoping for a better powerband with the new EFR turbos with the lighter wheel, and quicker spool, i really only need the 500hp but want 700+ capable,
I got the WPC treatment and then got the coatings on the dome/skirts. as for the the sr20 transmission, Im running OS Giken internals (gears and center shaft) I've had nothing but problems with a Z32 TT transmission when I had my 536whp '90Z.
Damn I was always told the contrary lol, Ill look into the tomei kit do you mind telling how much it cost you?

Answered within your own post.

Om1kron · 03-24-2011, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touge_drifter

I chose the 88mm pistons because anything bigger then 89mm and your to lose to the water jackets.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GabeS14

didnt understand this part, can you explain? did you sleeve your motor? thought you did

Gabe, he's saying if you go any larger than 88mm on your pistons you will have to get rid of the water jackets in the block. I'm not too sure on the specifics of the sr20 block and the piston sizes, etc. But you're better off asking Luis or an engine builder about that stuff who's familiar with the SR20 platform.

Or Touge could re-iterate for you in detail.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touge_drifter

I started with a BW hybrid turbo, but after 4 cars had problems with them I chose something else. Im using a FP hybrid GT3076 twinscroll . I could have done the FP 3582 and gone for 600+ but the powerband was way too peaky.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GabeS14

I am hoping for a better powerband with the new EFR turbos with the lighter wheel, and quicker spool, i really only need the 500hp but want 700+ capable,

Gabe, I think the one you're looking at buying is the same one I'm getting (actually I'm getting the 64 not the 70) there is a thread on the nissan road racing forums right now with someone who has one and we're all eagerly waiting to see if this is a better setup than the famed gt28 setup zilvia loves so much.

I'm just going to skip the t25 route and go right into the same territory as yourself without all of the stroker madness.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touge_drifter

I got the WPC treatment and then got the coatings on the dome/skirts. as for the the sr20 transmission, Im running OS Giken internals (gears and center shaft) I've had nothing but problems with a Z32 TT transmission when I had my 536whp '90Z.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GabeS14

Damn I was always told the contrary lol, Ill look into the tomei kit do you mind telling how much it cost you?

If I read correctly in someones for sale thread the OS Geiken internals are like 3500 bucks, will also slightly change your gear ratios. However someone on zilvia is selling this exact upgrade for 2500 bucks.

http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/37409...set-socal.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touge_drifter

as for the VE head.....Im good. I dont need 9K rpms, mine is great for from 3200-8500k. I didnt wanna deal with swapping everything over to that head and running all different stuff.

Yeah I am interested in trying out the VE head setup but so much money is required to fit it, it's almost not even worth the cost. It's just how much more money do I have hanging out of my ass.

02-04-2011, 11:13 PM	#1
Touge_drifter Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Down south Age: 42 Posts: 545 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Maybe went overboard on SR build A friend suggested I post on here for my engine build & Its a S14 SR20det here is what im working with. Nissan s14 throttle body upgrade (NA 60mm) Nismo engine bearings Nismo clutch slave cylinder Nismo stainless steel clutch line Nismo clutch pivot fork bolt Nismo engine/transmission mounts Balanced & Blue printed Custom coatings (dome & skirts) Tomei 2.2liter stroker kit (88mm) Tomei metal head gasket (1.2mm) Tomei Procam camshafts (260in./260ex.) Tomei valve springs Tomei bronze valve guides Tomei adjustable exhaust camshaft gear Tomei oil cap Tomei spark plug cover Crower titaninum retainers Crower stainless steel valves Custom port & polish Arp block/cylinder head studs Greddy intake manifold (version 2) Greddy oil pan Greddy oil catch can Greddy remote oil cooler (14 row) Greddy oil filter relocation kit Greddy engine pulley kit Greddy Greddy rocker arm stoppers Custom front mount intercooler Custom intercooler piping HKS bolw off valve (flat black) HKS iron sleeves Splitfire direct coil packs Koyo aluminum radiator FAL dual electric fans Samco hose Sard thermostat Tomei fuel psi regulator Bosch 1000cc fuel injectors Power enterprise engine belts SPEC Mini twin system(sponsorship) Taka stainless steel turbo lines Custom turbo outlet pipe Tial wastegates 38mm Full-Race turbo manifold Forgerd performance hybrid twin scroll turbo (classified a/r) XS engineering down pipe with catalyst converter delete AEM EMS stand alone w/map conversion Optima deep cycle battery Walbro 255glph fuel pump (x2) Swirl pot w/-AN fuel lines Block (HKS) sleeved Tomei 2.2 kit Crank shaft in Bottom end assembled __________________ No tune No life Last edited by Touge_drifter; 02-04-2011 at 11:59 PM..

02-04-2011, 11:15 PM	#2
Touge_drifter Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Down south Age: 42 Posts: 545 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Other shots of the pistons and rods __________________ No tune No life Last edited by Touge_drifter; 02-05-2011 at 10:59 AM..

02-04-2011, 11:24 PM	#6
Touge_drifter Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Down south Age: 42 Posts: 545 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Head __________________ No tune No life

02-04-2011, 11:40 PM	#8
BoostSlideWayz Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Lebec Age: 32 Posts: 1,686 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Fuck this makes me feel like a failure __________________ 1994 toyota supra...... n-a D= 1992 nissan 240sx KA24E-T fully Built =D

02-04-2011, 11:58 PM	#9
Touge_drifter Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Down south Age: 42 Posts: 545 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Head bolted down Thanks to SPEC for this AWESOME clutch __________________ No tune No life

02-04-2011, 11:17 PM	#4
S-Nation S13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LAND of the LOST Posts: 4,082 Trader Rating: (92) Feedback Score: 92 reviews	looking good bro, looking good

02-04-2011, 11:18 PM	#5
T-FAST Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Harlingen Texas Posts: 65 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	very nice!

02-04-2011, 11:31 PM	#7
azsr20det Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: az Posts: 148 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you nutsack lol wish i could afford the tomei bottom end kit... im stuck here slowly piecing everything together so far i got camshafts. cant wait to see where this goes

02-05-2011, 12:13 AM	#10
satek Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Vancouver BC Age: 30 Posts: 132 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Major $$$ build

02-05-2011, 12:58 AM	#11
Drifting-pedobear Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: seattle, wa Age: 30 Posts: 937 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	lol that clutch is so thick. 16 plate clutch all siiick right on man, this motor is one of the few that can be called "fully built" looking forward to numbers. __________________ RIGHTWHEELDRIVE.com

02-05-2011, 01:01 AM	#12
NoPho4u BANNED Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: SOCAL SON Age: 39 Posts: 53 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Looks pretty damn impressive with all that Tomei stuff but then a spec clutch...

02-05-2011, 08:35 AM	#14
NoPho4u BANNED Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: SOCAL SON Age: 39 Posts: 53 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Spend 5K on some baller ass wheels Top it off w/ some LING LONG TIRES LOL

02-05-2011, 08:39 AM	#15
Pandapants Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SoFla Age: 32 Posts: 302 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	mmmmm legitimacy

02-05-2011, 10:38 AM	#16
Touge_drifter Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Down south Age: 42 Posts: 545 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I like spec, Plus its free through my sponsorship. I had their modified 350z version (stage 3 + w/flywheel) on this engine before I did this build. As for the rims I have these. Super advan version 2 front are 18x9 w/+15 and rear are 18x10 w/-8. it took me awhile to get (9 1/2 months) with the custom color (D1 spec gunmetal) and size. __________________ No tune No life

02-05-2011, 10:42 AM	#17
Touge_drifter Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Down south Age: 42 Posts: 545 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Greddy fuel rail and 1000cc top feed injectors Greddy S14 sr20 version 2 high port intake mainfold __________________ No tune No life

02-05-2011, 10:50 AM	#19
JSimpson Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,009 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	mannn should have went with the VE head. Stock Neo VVL head will outflow the best DET heads and has no rocker arms so you can rev it to the moon and never have a problem while your rockin 280 cams stock haha!!!

02-05-2011, 10:52 AM	#20
dr1ft32 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: fresno ca Posts: 380 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Let's see the car __________________ 2013 Toyota Tacoma, Faster than your beater 240

02-05-2011, 10:53 AM	#21
jacobs13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: Long Beach Age: 29 Posts: 1,061 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Who cares? ^^^^ But nice build man, I have the same sleeves, but you must to have robbed a bank to buy all this. Looking forward to see numbers and that turbo your hiding

02-05-2011, 10:57 AM	#22
Touge_drifter Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Down south Age: 42 Posts: 545 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I like spec, its holds 1300tq and has stock pedal feel. what makes spec the weak link? Wouldn't have minded the OS Giken.....It would match the transmission gears Im going with. The Nismo has a harsh engagement and spec is all I have ever used even before the sponsorship. __________________ No tune No life

02-05-2011, 11:02 AM	#23
NoPho4u BANNED Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: SOCAL SON Age: 39 Posts: 53 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Which Model Nismo are you referring to? Also Spec clutch's are known to be budget minded american clutch which often times fail. Just do a search on here on their brand in general and you will find countless clutch's that didn't live up to their expectations. I just felt all this money you spend on these upgrades almost goes to waste if your clutch isn't up to par.

02-05-2011, 11:02 AM	#24
shiftdrift Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: indiana Age: 31 Posts: 2,242 Trader Rating: (42) Feedback Score: 42 reviews	with this much money, i'd sell the built head and go p12 head. __________________ SW Fab

02-05-2011, 11:04 AM	#25
Touge_drifter Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Down south Age: 42 Posts: 545 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I didnt think about the VE head. Didnt know if it would work on a S14 sr20det. heres the car __________________ No tune No life

02-05-2011, 11:05 AM	#26
NoPho4u BANNED Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: SOCAL SON Age: 39 Posts: 53 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Seen that car on here before. What are the details on the aero?

03-24-2011, 06:55 PM	#27
GabeS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sin City Las Vegas Posts: 4,521 Trader Rating: (27) Rides Gallery: GabeS14 Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Hey I am doing a very similar S14 stroker build, on a slightly smaller budget but our end goals are pretty similar, and being your also using Bw turbo and full race manifold, I got exited and am following your thread! I purchased a Brian Crower 2.3lt strokerkit, JWT 275cams, retaining the vtc... still very undecide if I go 90bore or 89bore on the pistons though, so I am holding off on that decision for a bit..... most probable that I go with 89 in case I need a rebuild. ordered sleeves, arp everything studs, with wpc coating on all the bearings and internals. going BW efr 7670turbo twinscroll, and full race manifold. ported and polished head. goal is 600whp. questions:I noticed you are using the sr tranny? do you really think it'll hold up to 500hp? I would recommend doing the z32 tranny swap, you can do it pretty cheap. and will hold up to the hi hp numbers. also yes, like others stated, if you use a VE head you can rev up to 9k and the head flows much better=more power. hit me up if your interested, I believe you can aquire a ve motor for about $600-800 and buy the mazwork kit to make it work looking forward to seeing how your motor behaves as yours will be done before mine is even machined lol.. good luck with everything and Ill be asking lots of questions. __________________ E92 M3 19" wheels for sale///JWT Cams and Springs +30whp for sale... cheap.

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