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240_SeX · 03-15-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

Bow down to him? No, respect his knowledge and opinion Yes.

He wants people to use their brain. If they would just use your brain in the first place he is happy to give advice and possibly help.

The problem is, every 3 months someone posts a thread about how do shitty cheap ass lights that look like shit.
Every single time people come out in defense of the cheap ass shit with stupid ass statements. Now I am not saying you did. Though I am saying this is a repeated problem.

Instead of you guys saying hey you know Mike is right. You all jump to defend the craptastic cheap lights because they are cheap. Oh and people in the 240 world these days tend to take the route rather than the quality.

There have been people in this thread that listened to what Mike said and did something.

There is a handful that have lashed out back at Mike because they do not want to listen. They do not want to go the proper route for a little more money.
Mike never said listen buy my completely expensive lights.
He did say the stuff posted is crap here is a reasonable alternative i.e. Cibie or Hella if you have too.

Did the people arguing with him listed to that? No, they tried to defend their cheap ass ways and attacked Mike. When Mike is attacked he comes back with the ammunition, that pretty much proves his point.

Its funny, anytime anyone makes good points on Zilvia, everyone starts trying to play you're mad and whatnot and go in for the personal attack.

Now you say you understand, perhaps now you will understand even more.

I do understand, and I agree. I'm in no way a fan of cheap, cheezie shit, hence why I'm looking to fit a tried and true OEM projector to my car. The idea of buying some crap off e-bay, taking it apart and gluing an e bay projector in it then JB welding it back together is what I would consider a hack-job and wouldn't be seen with it. I would even talk a Honda kid out of it.

I do admire the mans skills and knowledge and I can understand where his frustrations stem from. That being said, there's no need for him to throw a temper tantrum because someone asked for some info.

I already have Hella e-codes but I'm a big fan of the low profile projectors, and I cant see myself dropping $2200, plus a trip to cali for them. If that makes me cheap and lazy, fine.

JST2KWIK · 03-15-2011, 04:01 PM

this thread hurts my eyes like some ebay housings with HID's... seems like it can be summed up by saying that the two best bang for your buck upgrades to the often inadequate factory headlights are the Hella and Cibie e-code lights with the Cibie's being slightly better. NSX lights seem cool but there are not significant write ups on them. Anyone ever see the awesome Honda Odyessy S13 conversion? That looks pretty sweet too but obviously requires a good amount of work.

***FaLKoN240*** · 03-15-2011, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FantasticVoyages

Not really true. An upgrade is better even if it's not the best thing. Kind of like saying don't buy a car unless you can afford the best one.

or like doing a KA-T instead of a LS9...

An "upgrade" being "better" is a totally subjective statement.

Some douche throwing HIDs in some shitty housings may be an "upgrade" to the driver because it's brighter. It's a DOWNGRADE in the category of safety and being a considerate driver towards other people on the road..

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Originally Posted by JST2KWIK

this thread hurts my eyes like some ebay housings with HID's... seems like it can be summed up by saying that the two best bang for your buck upgrades to the often inadequate factory headlights are the Hella and Cibie e-code lights with the Cibie's being slightly better. NSX lights seem cool but there are not significant write ups on them. Anyone ever see the awesome Honda Odyessy S13 conversion? That looks pretty sweet too but obviously requires a good amount of work.

That doesn't look like a pair of pop up lights to me bro.

OBEEWON · 03-16-2011, 04:36 AM

LOL, for real? Deleting messages?

Well i'll be more informative this time. Put HIDs in the stock housing and aim them properly. 240's even at stock ride height compared to most compact cars today are miles lower to the point where I get blinded by newer cars LOW beams not vice versa.

I have had HID's in my 240 for 6 years and I have never gotten flashed, or in a head on collision due to blinding people.

Also thinking HIDs in stock housing suddenly point light directly into oncoming traffic is silly. HID's don't change your beam pattern, it just makes it brighter.

Trust me, Im a doctor.

Love you Mike.

Spring Break '92 · 03-16-2011, 09:08 AM

I had once considered the HID's, but reconsidered. From what Ive learned, you can spend the same money as an HID kit and have just as good brightness and be safer with good H4 conversions, a heavy duty harness, and some over-wattage bulbs. I have Autopal H4's, a Susquehanna Motorsports H4 harness with relays and am soon switching out my Philips 60/55w H4's to Philips 100/90w Rally bulbs.

I only went the cheaper route with the Autopals after doing research and reading people say that they were as good as Hella and Cibie. I kind of doubt that, but I can say that I am satisfied enough with mine. Now, if one of them bitches breaks a lens, etc. I am getting a set of Cibies no doubt. I could be wrong, but Im pressed to say that 100/90w bulbs are going to have the same affect on other drivers as HIDs in correct housings, and still not going to blind people like HID's in incorrect housings when the H4 housings are aimed properly.

ixfxi · 03-16-2011, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by OBEEWON

HID's don't change your beam pattern, it just makes it brighter.

Standard Bulb:

HID kit:

You're right, it doesnt change your beam pattern... that is, if you've been dropping acid for the past week. Seriously.

I love how I dont even have to speak anymore, my cronies are doing all the talking.
In case you all didnt know, Zilvia is not a place I conduct business. Selling my products to you guys is pointless, its like trying to sell champagne to homeless people. I come here because as an S-chassis owner, I enjoy the banter and have been in the community since the 90s (showing my age here). Forums are a complete waste of time. I do this in the morning as I eat my breakfast. Some people waste their mornings reading the paper or the funnies, I waste it talking shit to you idiots. You see, the rest of the day I spend it working... you know, making money. This is why you'll only see my posts about once a day.

Have a nice day.

Oh, and in the words of one of my most favorite rappers, KRS-One... YOU MUST LEARN:
http://www.clearcorners.com/tech/002/

ZilviaKid · 03-16-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ixfxi

You're right, it doesnt change your beam pattern... that is, if you've been dropping acid for the past week. Seriously.

best line of the month, calling it now

91cupcake240 · 03-16-2011, 11:24 AM

what u guys think of these headlights...

S13 240sx Popup HID light conversion Bi-Xenon projector - eBay (item 290529218589 end time Mar-31-11 20:12:16 PDT)

OBEEWON · 03-16-2011, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ixfxi

Standard Bulb:

HID kit:

You're right, it doesnt change your beam pattern... that is, if you've been dropping acid for the past week. Seriously.

See, it doesn't change your beam pattern. Thanks for proving my point! LOL

h2v7 · 03-16-2011, 12:49 PM

^cool but kinda pricey

***FaLKoN240*** · 03-16-2011, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OBEEWON

See, it doesn't change your beam pattern. Thanks for proving my point! LOL

Are you kidding? The beam pattern is hitting the roof.

OBEEWON · 03-16-2011, 06:14 PM

I demand a recount by a neutral party.

Mike is crooked.

***S14DB*** · 03-17-2011, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91cupcake240

what u guys think of these headlights...

S13 240sx Popup HID light conversion Bi-Xenon projector - eBay (item 290529218589 end time Mar-31-11 20:12:16 PDT)

WTF are X2 projectors? I found a bunch of knockoff garbage on ebay with that name.
The highbeams look sideways in the picture.
The projectors are unprotected from the elements. The lenses are not designed for impact and most don't seal on the projector. I see damaged lenses and moisture permeation from the lens and the back.
The rods to make it go up and down correctly are nice.
Beam pattern picture from 10ft from the wall is worthless. Most look great that close. But, you can see how bad the spread is even that close.
6K bulbs look more like 10K they are so blue.

Great Idea, Execution needs work.

nismoracingsx · 03-17-2011, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by OBEEWON

Trust me, Im a doctor.

So does that line work on all the ladies?

This thread is entertaining as it is...new(er) guys are out in force

BustedS13 · 03-17-2011, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ixfxi

angry angry angry buy my stuff angry angry every option that is not 180/pair cibie headlights is a bad option angry angry angry

this guy uses, shall we say, aggressive sales tactics

Darren · 03-17-2011, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BustedS13

this guy uses, shall we say, aggressive sales tactics

i loled at this

ixfxi · 03-17-2011, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

WTF are X2 projectors? I found a bunch of knockoff garbage on ebay with that name.
The highbeams look sideways in the picture.
The projectors are unprotected from the elements. The lenses are not designed for impact and most don't seal on the projector. I see damaged lenses and moisture permeation from the lens and the back.
The rods to make it go up and down correctly are nice.
Beam pattern picture from 10ft from the wall is worthless. Most look great that close. But, you can see how bad the spread is even that close.
6K bulbs look more like 10K they are so blue.

Great Idea, Execution needs work.

Smart man, smart response.

If its one thing I will add, is not to judge a light by its cutoff. People need to learn a thing or two about photometry and look at the

Quote:

Originally Posted by BustedS13

this guy uses, shall we say, aggressive sales tactics

"verrrry aggressiiiive"

YouTube - Rounders KGB aggressive scene

OBEEWON · 03-17-2011, 05:59 PM

LOL, love that line

***S14DB*** · 03-17-2011, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

Smart man, smart response.

If its one thing I will add, is not to judge a light by its cutoff.

I don't know if that blue splat on the wall had a cutoff...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

People need to learn a thing or two about photometry and look at the

Look at the what? I speak LUX, PAR and PUR.

jeffary · 03-18-2011, 04:01 AM

I got the Autopal H4 conversions.
Nice sharp cutoff with regular bulbs. Build quality's good too, clean.

Haha, going to throw some HIDs in later. Let you know how it goes.

(no retrofit, cause im a cheapass)

sr20drifter1 · 03-20-2011, 07:26 AM

For people who don't want to spend a lot of money on H4 conversion, you should look into getting the Koito headlights. They're made in Japan, and they're very reliable. I've been running mine for about 4 years. After I tried different set ups, I still went back to them. The cut is nice,so you can use HID without blinding people.Here is the link to the site that sells them cheap ($64/each)
89 - 95 Toyota Pickup Headlight Assembly 90 91 92 93 94 Left Driver Side

ixfxi · 03-20-2011, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sr20drifter1

For people who don't want to spend a lot of money on H4 conversion, you should look into getting the Koito headlights. They're made in Japan, and they're very reliable. I've been running mine for about 4 years. After I tried different set ups, I still went back to them. The cut is nice,so you can use HID without blinding people.Here is the link to the site that sells them cheap ($64/each)
89 - 95 Toyota Pickup Headlight Assembly 90 91 92 93 94 Left Driver Side

you have to be a complete idiot at this point

serious, i mean a complete retard... to not understand that a HALOGEN light source and a XENON light source are:

not fucking interchangeable

i dont understand how people fail to understand that the two technologies are NOT INTERCHANGEABLE.

idiots.

do you fill your gas powered car with diesel? no. so dont fucking install a xenon bulb in a halogen headlight.

KiLLeR2001 · 03-20-2011, 11:30 AM

xenon bulbs in halogen headlights... something I have to deal with every night on my drive home from work

damn you ricers

***FaLKoN240*** · 03-20-2011, 12:21 PM

I'm ricer guilty! Hella H4 and HID all day :P

sr20drifter1 · 03-20-2011, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

you have to be a complete idiot at this point

serious, i mean a complete retard... to not understand that a HALOGEN light source and a XENON light source are:

not fucking interchangeable

i dont understand how people fail to understand that the two technologies are NOT INTERCHANGEABLE.

idiots.

do you fill your gas powered car with diesel? no. so dont fucking install a xenon bulb in a halogen headlight.

Can't you say it without insulting me. This is what makes things wrong in this country.No respect for others. I think you should know that it takes one to know one. Idiot!

ixfxi · 03-21-2011, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sr20drifter1

Can't you say it without insulting me. This is what makes things wrong in this country.No respect for others. I think you should know that it takes one to know one. Idiot!

You got upset that I called you an idiot? Why, we're all idiots. The entire point of forums in general is to learn.

Problem is, this has been discussed millions of times not just here, but on numerous other forums and websites. It is pretty much common knowledge that halogen and xenon technologies are not interchangeable.

If you're a nerd and want to read the tech, here it is:
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply

CamryOnBronze · 03-21-2011, 09:30 AM

I do have to say, I just drove for the first time at night with my Hella H4 E-codes over the weekend, and they are for sure noticeably brighter with a better cutoff than the OEM lights... and much nicer than my generic H4 lights/housings I was running before. They don't look nearly as cool, but they do work really well.

ixfxi · 03-21-2011, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamryOnBronze

I do have to say, I just drove for the first time at night with my Hella H4 E-codes over the weekend, and they are for sure noticeably brighter with a better cutoff than the OEM lights... and much nicer than my generic H4 lights/housings I was running before. They don't look nearly as cool, but they do work really well.

Congratulations. Welcome to the club. The big penis club, my friend.

*DALAZ_68* · 03-23-2011, 01:23 AM

ok...so can we just pay for Mikes premie membership...miss you snookums

you made me El Oh El...

Nismo240driftSX · 03-25-2011, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

WTF are X2 projectors? I found a bunch of knockoff garbage on ebay with that name.
The highbeams look sideways in the picture.
The projectors are unprotected from the elements. The lenses are not designed for impact and most don't seal on the projector. I see damaged lenses and moisture permeation from the lens and the back.
The rods to make it go up and down correctly are nice.
Beam pattern picture from 10ft from the wall is worthless. Most look great that close. But, you can see how bad the spread is even that close.
6K bulbs look more like 10K they are so blue.

Great Idea, Execution needs work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91cupcake240

what u guys think of these headlights...

S13 240sx Popup HID light conversion Bi-Xenon projector - eBay (item 290529218589 end time Mar-31-11 20:12:16 PDT)

I bought these from the guy. They are very solid. I'd actually be willing to sell them because I need to get some new coilovers for my car. Pm me if anyone wants them.

03-16-2011, 04:36 AM	#94
OBEEWON Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Posts: 6,051 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	LOL, for real? Deleting messages? Well i'll be more informative this time. Put HIDs in the stock housing and aim them properly. 240's even at stock ride height compared to most compact cars today are miles lower to the point where I get blinded by newer cars LOW beams not vice versa. I have had HID's in my 240 for 6 years and I have never gotten flashed, or in a head on collision due to blinding people. Also thinking HIDs in stock housing suddenly point light directly into oncoming traffic is silly. HID's don't change your beam pattern, it just makes it brighter. Trust me, Im a doctor. Love you Mike. __________________

03-16-2011, 09:08 AM	#95
Spring Break '92 Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: unconcious on Daytona Beach Posts: 180 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I had once considered the HID's, but reconsidered. From what Ive learned, you can spend the same money as an HID kit and have just as good brightness and be safer with good H4 conversions, a heavy duty harness, and some over-wattage bulbs. I have Autopal H4's, a Susquehanna Motorsports H4 harness with relays and am soon switching out my Philips 60/55w H4's to Philips 100/90w Rally bulbs. I only went the cheaper route with the Autopals after doing research and reading people say that they were as good as Hella and Cibie. I kind of doubt that, but I can say that I am satisfied enough with mine. Now, if one of them bitches breaks a lens, etc. I am getting a set of Cibies no doubt. I could be wrong, but Im pressed to say that 100/90w bulbs are going to have the same affect on other drivers as HIDs in correct housings, and still not going to blind people like HID's in incorrect housings when the H4 housings are aimed properly. __________________ BOOYAH! Last edited by Spring Break '92; 03-16-2011 at 03:05 PM..

03-16-2011, 06:14 PM	#102
OBEEWON Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Posts: 6,051 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	I demand a recount by a neutral party. Mike is crooked. __________________

03-17-2011, 05:59 PM	#108
OBEEWON Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Posts: 6,051 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	LOL, love that line __________________

03-20-2011, 07:26 AM	#111
sr20drifter1 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Katanga Posts: 1,008 Trader Rating: (66) Feedback Score: 66 reviews	Koito For people who don't want to spend a lot of money on H4 conversion, you should look into getting the Koito headlights. They're made in Japan, and they're very reliable. I've been running mine for about 4 years. After I tried different set ups, I still went back to them. The cut is nice,so you can use HID without blinding people.Here is the link to the site that sells them cheap ($64/each) 89 - 95 Toyota Pickup Headlight Assembly 90 91 92 93 94 Left Driver Side __________________ DAOUD AKA KONGO DAVE

03-15-2011, 04:01 PM	#92
JST2KWIK Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Philly PA Posts: 8 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	this thread hurts my eyes like some ebay housings with HID's... seems like it can be summed up by saying that the two best bang for your buck upgrades to the often inadequate factory headlights are the Hella and Cibie e-code lights with the Cibie's being slightly better. NSX lights seem cool but there are not significant write ups on them. Anyone ever see the awesome Honda Odyessy S13 conversion? That looks pretty sweet too but obviously requires a good amount of work.

03-16-2011, 11:24 AM	#98
91cupcake240 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: oxnard ca. Age: 32 Posts: 1,084 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	what u guys think of these headlights... S13 240sx Popup HID light conversion Bi-Xenon projector - eBay (item 290529218589 end time Mar-31-11 20:12:16 PDT)

03-16-2011, 12:49 PM	#100
h2v7 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: san francisco, ohio Posts: 2,194 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	^cool but kinda pricey

03-18-2011, 04:01 AM	#110
jeffary Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Albany, CA Posts: 26 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I got the Autopal H4 conversions. Nice sharp cutoff with regular bulbs. Build quality's good too, clean. Haha, going to throw some HIDs in later. Let you know how it goes. (no retrofit, cause im a cheapass)

03-20-2011, 11:30 AM	#113
KiLLeR2001 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: オーランドフロリダ Posts: 7,955 Trader Rating: (46) Feedback Score: 46 reviews	xenon bulbs in halogen headlights... something I have to deal with every night on my drive home from work damn you ricers __________________

03-20-2011, 12:21 PM	#114
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 16,761 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	I'm ricer guilty! Hella H4 and HID all day :P __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

03-21-2011, 09:30 AM	#117
CamryOnBronze Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: MI Age: 35 Posts: 3,913 Trader Rating: (131) Rides Gallery: CamryOnBronze Feedback Score: 131 reviews	I do have to say, I just drove for the first time at night with my Hella H4 E-codes over the weekend, and they are for sure noticeably brighter with a better cutoff than the OEM lights... and much nicer than my generic H4 lights/housings I was running before. They don't look nearly as cool, but they do work really well. __________________ CamryOnBronze.com

03-23-2011, 01:23 AM	#119
DALAZ_68 not giving a fuck Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los angeles Age: 35 Posts: 15,080 Trader Rating: (104) Feedback Score: 104 reviews	ok...so can we just pay for Mikes premie membership...miss you snookums you made me El Oh El... __________________ LOL 240... whats better than 1? 5 1's ...lol PSN & XBL GT : Wh0pp3r68 CLUB LEXUS : Wh0pp3r

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