Formula d

[blu808]

Well the time has finally come for me to qualify for formula d. We have had our testing days to setup the car, and besides the motor almost being blown up, we should have a great shot at the qualifier. We depart around lunch time tomorrow (friday) and head to irwindale speedway.

The event is on saturday, we were really excited until we looked at the forcast. It will be raining the whole time. And at a track like irwindale this could mean trouble with all the walls. Not to mention that my car is pretty much impossible to drive in the rain.

Well we will do our best, and no matter the outcome, we will have as much fun as possible.

Wish us luck.

[Andrew Bohan]

good luck luke and george. wish i could go with you guys.

[DJPimpFlex]

damn thats going to be crazy. Do you even have wipers luke? Anyway kick some ass you guys!!!

[blu808]

Yea i built some plexi windows, and put the wipers back in.

Shock kicking ass.

[Brian]

just because it says it will rain doesn't mean it will rain.
This is SoCal

[papa]

yeaa goodluck..hope you guys get pretty good weather

[DoriftoSlut]

Great weather down here today. Hrm.

[RSP13-Sideways]

Goodluck Luke Dawg, you know I'm behind your homo ass 100% hahaha

[blu808]

Thanks for all the luck. You know we will need it going against people like veriona mea. lol drifting shitty. But seriously all the top 10 people from formula d are allready in, so we have to go up agianst everyone else.

[A Spec Products]

just because it says it will rain doesn't mean it will rain.
This is SoCal

Foo, you crazy. Its 'on rain!

"Saturday:

Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain in the morning...then rain likely and a slight chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon.

Highs around 60.

Southeast winds around 15 mph in the afternoon. Chance of rain 70 percent."

Jackie Johnson from KCAL sez so!

http://www.wsvn.com/images/newsteam/reporter_S12_large.jpg

Best bring the umbrellas!

Good luck!

[citizen]

shock don't blowing up you motor until the last run and then doing it right in front of the judges so shrapnel blows by their faces and they cream their pants whilst the 1980 USSR olypmic hockey team drinks 55 gallon drums of vodka in the near background...

[blu808]

I will be the one drinking 55 galons of vodka when my motor blows.

[driftshot]

good luck and definitly post on sunday and let us know how it went =D

[Nan Desu Ka?!]

shock well-wishing, Luke! That beast has come a long way since i saw the red shell in your garage.

You have my best wishes, Now SHOCK KICKING ASS AT IRWINDALE! :bow:

[xeros]

No see, you got the v8 in there yet it doesnt seem to be much more stable then a Rtary for some reason hahaha. Its all in the tuning.

[ramblux]

See you guys there!

[FaLKoN240]

If you don't get first. . .don't come home...

Just kidding. Good luck, you should own everyone's faces.

SHOCK PROMOTIONS!!!

[ThatGuy]

Good luck Luke. Just go out and have fun, stay off the walls, and let the V8 roar. Fuck the judges if they don't like it.

[i8yourfwd]

Woooo go luke and george! Good luck guys!

[Yuri]

I hope it rains, That's $200 worth of tires I'll save. And it's actually the top 30 FD people who are already qualified, according to FD's site, so it'll be just a little easier. See you there.

[Edgar]

Ill see all you guys out at Round 1 ;)

[cali240sxdrifter]

give them hell! good luck

[Flybert]

Man, I feel really bad for all you guys competing there tomorrow. Why would you want to do the feeder at Irwindale. Should have just waited for the SD round...for the sake of your cars. No glory in totaling a car in a feeder series. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and predict that 10 of 43 cars will total their shit. Not shitting you either. Good luck. Seriously.

[ranisron]

good luck luke.

the FD is a pure beast.

[sr240mike]

Im off work now. Off to Luke's I go, then shock long driving.....drinking.

[blu808]

We are finally in la after the 7 hour drive. NCDA henry was suppost to meet me here but he ate shit on his bike and is in bad shape. Please pray for him as he is in bad shape. We are getting faded, and prepared for the hangover drifting tomorrow. wish us luck. nor cal for teh win, and skeet for teh huh?

[RSP13-Sideways]

Henry was in a bike accident? A motorcycle accident Luke or a bicycle accident? I'm a bit faded right now but so are you, it's 2:26am and I'm back from Downtown San Jose. Aye....is Henry alright?

Norcal for the win baby, remember Luke.......backpedal a lot in the rain, no need to stay on the throttle, use your throttle to angle your drift, brakes don't make a big difference in the rain. GOOD LUCK!!!!!! You'll do just fine biatch! Good luck as well George!!!!

[JtWo]

Henry's in my prayers bro. So are you and George dood. Hold it down for NorCal homies!


EDIT: LOL Get hyphy and scrape for the Bay!

[ramblux]

Luke and George both kicked ass today! Even with the wet asphalt they handled their business...

I don't think they announced the results today though, but there may have been a driver's meeting after the event that I didn't stick around for...

[Nan Desu Ka?!]

I WANT PICS AND VID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gogo Shock-wet-Drifting. holdin it down for norcal!

[Shawn_of_the_Dead]

damn I can't wait to get my car done and rule some ass too.

Pics and Vids!!

[blu808]

Ok so 8 cars ate shit,

the way they setup the course had nothing to do with drifting skill, but to how

well cars resist understeering in the rain, and how nimble they were.

Only 4 people got picked.

George and xander kicked ass and shoulda quald.

It was an unorganized event because of irwindale.

FD+LS1+Rain = Hardest car to fucking drive i have ever driven.

I will only say this once so dont ask questions for my sake.
my friends believe It was very apparent in the judging that favortism of their personal friends scored much higher.

Other then that we drank a shit load, partially crashed a 50th birthday party at the hotel, and failed our mission of finding dead hookers.

[Andrew Bohan]

let's going to san diego

[ramblux]

Ok so 8 cars ate shit,

the way they setup the course had nothing to do with drifting skill, but to how

well cars resist understeering in the rain, and how nimble they were.

Only 4 people got picked.

George and xander kicked ass and shoulda quald.

It was the most unorganized event i have ever attended.

FD+LS1+Rain = Hardest car to fucking drive i have ever driven.

I will only say this once so dont ask questions for my sake.
It was very apparent in the judging that favortism of their personal friends scored much higher.

Other then that we drank a shit load, partially crashed a 50th birthday party at the hotel, and failed our mission of finding dead hookers.

I have to agree with you dude. When I first got there and saw the course, I was like, "Gymkhana?"

[revat619]

i was there as well. I didnt drive, i just helped to carry some stuff up there for a friend who was driving.

I will say that the course completely sucked balls and the judging was a joke. At the end when the scores were posted, the favoritism was VERY obvious. Its really stupid. Formula D, D1....they can both suck a big fat one. Its really sad how its all about marketability and very little being based on actual drivers skill. Whatever, i'll help out at the next one too, but you'll never see me compete in a series with such an asstactic method for running things.

MOVING ON...

Luke, you car sounds completely BAD ASS! This was the first time i saw it in action and all i can say is WOW! And Good driving too! Screw the politics and keep doing what you're doing. A + man. :bow:

[blu808]

Thank you very much. you would not believe how hard that car is to drive in the rain.

[Flybert]

Fuck Formula D and D1. You guys do know about the Just Drift Series right? Guaranteed to be less BS than the "PRO" series. Plus, with paired team tandem battle, this shit will be waaaaaaaaaaay cooler than any of the FD feeder series BS. And for you Norcal folks, there will be a round held at Golden Gate Fields so it is an incentive for us Socal folks to go up there and try to get points for the series.

Just Drift!!!! NO BS!!!!

[blu808]

Sounds cool. But have you heard of NCDA.net ?

Events every other thursday at altamont (same as irwindale)

Cash hand outs

Full competition

Tandem

No cage req

Only $50

No bs.


But yea just drift sounds tight also.

[Flybert]

Not a big fan of that track from all the video I've seen.

Now if someone could set up a socal/norcal battle at buttonwillow east loop with prizes, I'd be the first to sign up.

[Edgar]

I cant wait for Round 1.
Any of you guys will be in Houston Feb 18th for qualifications?

[Var]

Let's tandem in Luke's driveway.

Sorry to hear you didn't qualify.

[mooboy]

Sorry to hear dude.

[balmo]

sorry to hear that luke. will you try out sd? i was in grip n slip and all i could say is that your fd is dead serious. the car switches back lightning quick!

[neilsan]

i heard at least one of the qualifiers totalled their shit... I also heard about the favoritism. That's no rain date + politics for ya.

[JtWo]

Meh it's all good. Chill sometime again at night at my shop again? I'll provide soda again and bbq this time :)

[kazuo]

There will always be favoritism and politics in this sort of thing as long as humans subjectively judge the driving.

[NI_YON_Zenki]

I can't believe you all are just now speaking on this. .. .

Or just now realizing the reality of all this period, there are many drivers that are not wasting their time trying to get "qualified" under the conditions that Formula D has provided, and as far a D1, well i think we all know how difficult it is to make that level event, considering the ever increasing popularity of the project period, the younger groups of enthusiasts are the one's who have built this barrier for the one's who actually have the time invested in this style of driving, thus creating a glass ceiling. .. .i can only imagine how many people on this topic alone this forum who had Honda badges proudly displayed and well spoken for in the past. .. .now it is near 50/50 weight dis just to tear some tires up. This is a lifestyle people, times change, yes I am not an avid enthusiast of the HONDA corp, I'll be the first to admit this, but I know a well built car when I see one, I've been in this game for THAT long. .. .

So, to all of these kats that claim they are being singled out because of "favorites" style judging, just imagine the black drifters/drivers that are trying to come up, jay, myself, brandon, & all the others that are out there taking time to speak to other enthusiasts and develop inside knowledge and the necessary skills within a lifestyle that we have decided to give our time too, enthusiastically we enjoy it to the utmost fullest, I don't care what the individual looks like but the simple fact is. .. .there will always be barriers that will continue to push us harder.

Quite frankly, i feel those who cannot accept the competition, and gain strength from them. .. . then step off, cause you can't see us.

[breakindrifts]

For those interested heres a samll vid of the qualifying event. Courtesy of some guy on drifting.com http://media.putfile.com/FD-Qualifier-quick-vid

[Andrew Bohan]

ni_yon_zenki, what are you talking about? no said it has anything to do with what the driver or the car looks like, and no one said anything about being singled out. just group exclusion. friends of the judges qualify and non-friends don't. unless some driver does so fuckin amazing that everyone will shoot the judges if he doesn't qualify, that's how it is.

[FaLKoN240]

just imagine the black drifters/drivers that are trying to come up

That is the most random thing I have ever seen in a post.

[DJPimpFlex]

that course looked pretty interesting. I dont know about actually driving it. That was a sad excuse of a video like a min of that fuckin tire rolling, WTF. Luke, from what I saw you were one of the better ones out there, at least on the vid.

[blu808]

I can't believe you all are just now speaking on this. .. .

Or just now realizing the reality of all this period, there are many drivers that are not wasting their time trying to get "qualified" under the conditions that Formula D has provided, and as far a D1, well i think we all know how difficult it is to make that level event, considering the ever increasing popularity of the project period, the younger groups of enthusiasts are the one's who have built this barrier for the one's who actually have the time invested in this style of driving, thus creating a glass ceiling. .. .i can only imagine how many people on this topic alone this forum who had Honda badges proudly displayed and well spoken for in the past. .. .now it is near 50/50 weight dis just to tear some tires up. This is a lifestyle people, times change, yes I am not an avid enthusiast of the HONDA corp, I'll be the first to admit this, but I know a well built car when I see one, I've been in this game for THAT long. .. .

So, to all of these kats that claim they are being singled out because of "favorites" style judging, just imagine the black drifters/drivers that are trying to come up, jay, myself, brandon, & all the others that are out there taking time to speak to other enthusiasts and develop inside knowledge and the necessary skills within a lifestyle that we have decided to give our time too, enthusiastically we enjoy it to the utmost fullest, I don't care what the individual looks like but the simple fact is. .. .there will always be barriers that will continue to push us harder.

Quite frankly, i feel those who cannot accept the competition, and gain strength from them. .. . then step off, cause you can't see us.

That has to be one of the dumbest replies i have ever read, everyone that has read it, is now dumber for doing so. Please repost this in the "i feel profiled" section if their was one. race has nothing to do with this dude, only people that know people.

Anyways. I was wishing i was driving my s14 that day, i have driven many, many, many cars in the rain. and i must say the fd is comparible to driving a road race car in the mud. The balance is great but the sliding grip is not there, and lets not even talk about the throttle control.

There will always be favoritism and politics in this sort of thing as long as humans subjectively judge the driving.

If this keeps happening i will say fu&k drifting, and eat breakfast sausages instead of even driving a car.

I cant wait for Round 1.
Any of you guys will be in Houston Feb 18th for qualifications?


I would rather not goto fd then to spend $3000 on gas, food lodging, tires, etc to drive 1922.09 miles to texas to drift for 8 laps in a parking lot. its too much money.

(Edited because i didnt post this. someone at my house did. so i edited it.)

[NI_YON_Zenki]

I was not speaking on behalf of race, I read the topic, & I still feel the same way. .. .Circumstances are relative. .. .Group or individual. My statement did include "singled out" yes, relative to the topic, I should have said group, woudld it have changed my thoughts and feelings, fuck nah'.

I simply related this simpleton topic to the facts of life take place. .. .whether or not you've seen it happen, I have. I know exactly what you spoke on regarding group judgement or neglect or knowing people to get into places that the regular guy cannot. .. .

don't be so fast to respond on them keys Blu, think for a second.

Like the conditions of the track that day, you could have qualified in you silvia, & not that LS1 7, but you chose not to listen to the forecast the day before. options are always available, yet shit still happends. .. .

Stay Up

[blu808]

Thanks for elaborating. However i have played victim to race profiling before as well. With me being somewhat of a minority in this sport ( little white guy) at first people criticized me because they thought i was just some richy rich white boy, etc. it pissed me the fuck off.

No joke. And no i wont elaborate.

Anyways, back on topic.

Lets drifting.

[Var]

you are a rich whiteboy. lol.

[Nan Desu Ka?!]

and a redneck... have you seen his fucking truck... ;)

jk, i love teh 4 X 4. lets off-roading!

[TRUENOCOUPE]

Ok so 8 cars ate shit,

the way they setup the course had nothing to do with drifting skill, but to how

well cars resist understeering in the rain, and how nimble they were.

It was the most unorganized event i have ever attended.

FD+LS1+Rain = Hardest car to fucking drive i have ever driven.

I will only say this once so dont ask questions for my sake.
It was very apparent in the judging that favortism of their personal friends scored much higher.


Out of all the vids I've watch, I didn't see you understeering at all. All your runs you were relying on your power. I could see and hear you lift off a lot and using your power getting back up the hill. This what put your car so far and too wide in the bottom cause of you lifting off way too much.

Im not saying you aren't a great driver, You are but that track required some skills. I saw all your runs and it was just shitty. Maybe you weren't on top of your game that day, so stop with the excuses. Even Takahiro had way too much understeer on his car. After crashing he had to swap out another struts from another car. He's alignment was so off. You could tell when he's at full lock, the passenger side got way more angle. You could also see when hes at the top of third gear he's car was swaying back in forth.



Thank you very much. you would not believe how hard that car is to drive in the rain.

Im thinking of not competing in d1 or formula d just because you cant do well unless you are friends with people in the industry.

Now, this is just retarded. :rofl:

[TRUENOCOUPE]

Did you know Henry Motorsport Dynamic is an FD Official?

You should watch what you say on Forums...


I would rather tell formula d to go fuck themselves then to spend $3000 on gas, food lodging, tires, etc to drive 1922.09 miles to fucking texas to drift for 8 laps in a god damn parking lot.

Fuck this shit. i am converting my fd to hwy 9 time attack if i dont get the invite to san deago. Not kidding.

SD is not an invite only event. Where do you come up with this stuff?

[sr240mike]

I think he means he is not going to go unless he is invited. The only cars that really excelled in that days event were the underpowered. The best run I saw that day was the white s13 with the mismatched red body panels. That whole event was just retarded.

[Var]

Al- what Luke said about knowing people..it's not complete BS. It helps you get your foot in the door at least. For example, last time at Infineon you were petitioned in, as well as this time. Luke had to qualify. Now from what i saw, Luke did better than you last time, and we didn't even see you run this time, but he didn't get his foot in the door because he didn't drift well enough, and you got in because you know people who will vouch for you, and it doesn't matter if you understeered off the track while flipping your headlights up and down. And Gabe stuck by your side somehow??. More power to you though. You did well at the drift showoff. I hope to see you do as well in Formula D this season, cause it boggled the mind how you even made it in last year, and how you didnt have to qualify this year.

You're a prime example of how the system works.

(if you wanna bitch at me i'm ok with it, if this offended you. i still love you though)

[TRUENOCOUPE]

Al- what Luke said about knowing people..it's not complete BS. It helps you get your foot in the door at least. For example, last time at Infineon you were petitioned in, as well as this time. Luke had to qualify. Now from what i saw, Luke did better than you last time, and we didn't even see you run this time, but he didn't get his foot in the door because he didn't drift well enough, and you got in because you know people who will vouch for you, and it doesn't matter if you understeered off the track while flipping your headlights up and down. And Gabe stuck by your side somehow??. More power to you though. You did well at the drift showoff. I hope to see you do as well in Formula D this season, cause it boggled the mind how you even made it in last year, and how you didnt have to qualify this year.

You're a prime example of how the system works.

(if you wanna bitch at me i'm ok with it, if this offended you. i still love you though)


No Im not offended at all. Any negative / advise is always good. I know for a fact that you're a little retarded so Im going to let that slide. You weren't even at Sonoma on Friday to see the qualifying... You were the one that told me that you weren't there to see it.. hmmm? I was actually the last one that qualified out of the 12th driver so nothing too amazing of what I have done. Im not going to make up excuses but I actually broke my clutch during the qualifying round and I still made it. Not mad at that.. I didn't get petition in retard.

For Saturday, sure I was having trouble with my car. You don't see me going in forums to cry about it. WAHH WAHHH. I had brand new clutch that was given from ACT but Im not a great driver that I could adapt to the new set up so quickly so yeah, I admit I had a hard time initiating. Here's another excuse, my tranny was gone so downshifting going up hill in 2nd gear was impossible. I had to keep it all third gear or 1st gear. Just another excuse. :duh:

Let me give you a fine example of how the system work... We were the lowest budget team in FD last year yet we still made it to all 4 FD events. I also made it to a couple qualifying rounds. This gives you a rep and people knows you are willing to commit...

Now now now.. Thats just not it. You send FD a proposal of why you should be given a license. Its just not all about "Im Var and I bought someone else PINK 240SX". You have to give them a proper plan of what you are going to be doing in 2006 season. Yeah, I told them that we are committed for the whole season so they agree. Im not the only one that was given a license.

If you are willing to commit then people will trust you. Luke is a good driver. no doubt but don't tell me that he was doing great at Sonoma... All I saw was a spin out.

You creticise so much, when you going out there and show your DORIFTO SKILLZZZZZ!!!1

-Al

ps. :ughug:

[Brian]

Everybody bitches too much.
Just drive and stop bitching.

I lost. wahhh wahhh. boo fucking hoo

nice to see you and barry

[TRUENOCOUPE]

Everybody bitches too much.
Just drive and stop bitching.

I lost. wahhh wahhh. boo fucking hoo

nice to see you and barry


I love you too mah fine african brotha.

:wavey:

[Var]

No Im not offended at all. Any negative / advise is always good. I know for a fact that you're a little retarded so Im going to let that slide. You weren't even at Sonoma on Friday to see the qualifying... You were the one that told me that you weren't there to see it.. hmmm? I was actually the last one that qualified out of the 12th driver so nothing too amazing of what I have done. Im not going to make up excuses but I actually broke my clutch during the qualifying round and I still made it. Not mad at that.. I didn't get petition in retard.

For Saturday, sure I was having trouble with my car. You don't see me going in forums to cry about it. WAHH WAHHH. I had brand new clutch that was given from ACT but Im not a great driver that I could adapt to the new set up so quickly so yeah, I admit I had a hard time initiating. Here's another excuse, my tranny was gone so downshifting going up hill in 2nd gear was impossible. I had to keep it all third gear or 1st gear. Just another excuse. :duh:

Let me give you a fine example of how the system work... We were the lowest budget team in FD last year yet we still made it to all 4 FD events. I also made it to a couple qualifying rounds. This gives you a rep and people knows you are willing to commit...

Now now now.. Thats just not it. You send FD a proposal of why you should be given a license. Its just not all about "Im Var and I bought someone else PINK 240SX". You have to give them a proper plan of what you are going to be doing in 2006 season. Yeah, I told them that we are committed for the whole season so they agree. Im not the only one that was given a license.

If you are willing to commit then people will trust you. Luke is a good driver. no doubt but don't tell me that he was going great at Sonoma... All I saw was a spin out.

You creticise so much, when you going out there and show your DORIFTO SKILLZZZZZ!!!1

-Al

ps. :ughug:

And that's why i love you man. Straightest response i'd get out of anyone here. Good luck this season.

[blu808]

Did you know Henry Motorsport Dynamic is an FD Official?

You should watch what you say on Forums...



SD is not an invite only event. Where do you come up with this stuff?


Al i just re read the threads. I did'nt post that reply, someone at my house must have done it. Anyways. I do not think that i should have qualified that day. I wansnt driving well and my car wasnt working with me. With that said i dont see what the problem was. At first some of my friends had a problem with the judging, and that was one of the reasons i was going to call formula d, luckly a representative from dday contacted me and cleared things up. Aparently some one had a look at a judging sheet, and confused their car number with how they finished. I do believe that all the people that were picked that day were the best ones out there.

I had a fun time, and it was interesting to see how an fd drives in the rain with the ls1. Now next time i should be better prepared for the rain.

[citizen]

not enough drift sauce~

[blu808]

I have recently been informed that what i had posted here has been missunderstood and some have taken it personally. Please let me try to set this straight for everyones sake.

When i said i felt the event was disorganized it was not pointing the blame at anyone associated with fd/dday. I just felt overall that curve balls were being thrown at them by the track. Such as when they told the staff the event had to be cut short an hour. I spoke with moto at the event numerous times, and the only confusion about the event operations seemed to have been a result of irwindale.

As for the people that qualified. I believe they were the best choices, and they were def on their a game. I liked how hiro came from hitting the wall, to pulling it off with a car that had the allignment settings changed from the impact.

I truely did'nt believe that i should have quald, because i wasnt being consistant that day, my setup was crappy for the rain, and i found out that i cant really drive that car in the rain. It was really interesting seeing how the FD reacts in the wet conditions, as i had never driven one in the rain.

As for the Judging, I thought everyone they picked was the right choice. I have spoken with alex, chris, taka, ben, many times before and they never once made me think that they would judge improperly.

The only thing i wanted to ask dday about was some questions my friends had regarding their scores, which they thought wasnt right.

A dday representative called me yesterday, and nicely cleared everything up. It was confusion on my friends part, and what i was led to believe.

Other then that im sorry if i upset any of the drivers that qualified, didnt qualify, or any of the officials. I actually had a fun time at the event, and i will make sure to be more specific in the future. That way no one gets the wrong impression.

Luke

[ranisron]

^^ now that's the right statement. Everyone should be happy now right? Oh well, I still feel bad for those of whom ran into wall (and the not so pro. crowds... IMO)

Luke, your car sounded awesome! and I wish you luck next time at San Diego.

[blu808]

Thanks. We will try our best and have fun doing it.

I need earplugs.

[Gumballf355]

I got your back Luke... I'll give you some SO3s for the rain.

[blu808]

Thanks but the rt615's are actually awsome in the rain. It is the fd/ ls1 that is not. The car broke loose easy without any unexpected handling problems, it is just the fd is impossible to drive in the rain once you are allready sideways. The off throttle, braking, and throttle modulation is very difficult compared to all the 240's i have owned. But i will practice and i hope i will some day have the skill to be competitive in any condition.

[blu808]

^^ now that's the right statement. Everyone should be happy now right? Oh well, I still feel bad for those of whom ran into wall (and the not so pro. crowds... IMO)

Luke, your car sounded awesome! and I wish you luck next time at San Diego.

Me too. Alot of great cars/drivers hit the wall that day, and i feel bad for that. Im sure with the lines they were taking, even though they wernt adapted to the wet. That in the dry they would have done fine.

[blu808]

This is my loosing fd face.

http://www.shockdrifting.com/articles/andrewfc/03.jpg

[Andrew Bohan]

luke you need to learn how to not make tripple posts. the last time you did it it got fixed for you. next time you might get in trouble

[TurDz]

blu808 do you think the LS1 in your FD upset the original weight distribution of the FD with rotary? Or is the chassis itself just diffifcult to maneuver in the rain?

[blu808]

Chassis is hard to drive in the rain, and with the ls1 torque it makes it really difficult to control.

[KiDyNomiTe]

Everybody bitches too much.
Just drive and stop bitching.

I lost. wahhh wahhh. boo fucking hoo

:werd:

Now to just sit and wait for our qualifier...

[blu808]

which qualifier?

[theicecreamdan]

when is SDFD?

[Yuri]

Anyone have pics yet?