View Full Version : MyBuildup. stich weld wire relocation
FallbrookS13
01-09-2006, 08:42 PM
Haven't had a license in a long time so i have time to work on the car. I decided to stitch weld as much as i could and the tedious work of removing most of the unnecessary wiring, and relocating it. the two main fuse boxes that are in the engine bay have been relocated to the inside of the car.
list of eliminated wires include... door jam light stuff, dome light, power seat belts, anything that controls the air circulation cause that has all been removed also, horn blah blah pretty much anything that doesnt control the engine or tail and headlights. oh but i still have my stereo
stitch weld stuff.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/AndrewKing/buildup/tower.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/AndrewKing/buildup/support.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/AndrewKing/buildup/reartower.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/AndrewKing/buildup/fronttower2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/AndrewKing/buildup/fronttower3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/AndrewKing/buildup/fronttower.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/AndrewKing/buildup/enginebay.jpg
electrical stuff
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/AndrewKing/buildup/tailharness.jpg
these are all the wires left that run to the back of the car. no more huge mess
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/AndrewKing/buildup/harness.jpg
these are the only wires that run into the engine bay. the harness is small enough that i wont have problems on rubbing so i still ran it through here.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/AndrewKing/buildup/headlightharness.jpg
engine bay wires end over here at the passenger headlight.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/AndrewKing/buildup/fuseboxes.jpg
fuse boxes that are usually near the battery and under the intake box. im going to extend the plugs off the engine harness and they will be fed into that big hole above the bundle of plugs. this area still needs to be cleaned up a little. and i need to extend some stuff for the battery that will be behind the passenger seat.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/AndrewKing/buildup/wiperharness.jpg
windshield wiper harness now runs in through here instead of over the wheel through the fender well.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/AndrewKing/buildup/dasharea.jpg
overall shot... some things still need to be cleaned up. most dangling plugs you see are buttons on the dash for headlights. gauge cluster and stereo
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/AndrewKing/MyCar%20as%20of%20march%202005/frontview.jpg
older shot. all i want is stock silvia sideskirts as far as exterior goes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/AndrewKing/buildup/garage.jpg
my garage.
This car is still staying na-KA for now. no fancy engine stuff goin on. engine bay will just be really simple.
Omarius Maximus
01-10-2006, 02:14 AM
Your cars lookin awesome! How bout experimenting with that structural foam since your already stitch welding.
FallbrookS13
01-10-2006, 02:46 AM
yeah. experimenting with that stuff would be fun. know anywhere i can pick that stuff up in san diego?
cfrost
01-10-2006, 03:03 AM
:love: sweeeeet lookin drew...now it's time for dirt drops at the balcony and 1 on 1s with a wrx!
Sil Beer S13
01-10-2006, 03:25 AM
drew those belong in pics thread.
reefer1114
01-10-2006, 03:34 AM
looking good...
FallbrookS13
01-10-2006, 03:37 AM
drew those belong in pics thread.
your my hero
Sil Beer S13
01-10-2006, 03:42 AM
^ im going to kill you.
NemeGuero
01-10-2006, 03:44 AM
Wow man. That shit looks GREAT! I wish I had the time/energy to clean my car up like that....
BIG PROPS
PoorMans180SX
01-10-2006, 07:40 AM
Nice stitch welding....Hope you get the car finished soon!
nigel1
01-10-2006, 12:08 PM
very nice. thats what I want to do to an s13 koop. :(
!Zar!
01-10-2006, 12:24 PM
http://www.shopmaninc.com/foam.html
That's the foam they are talking about. There is another place in your area that sells it, the name is slipping my mind at the moment.
FallbrookS13
01-10-2006, 01:44 PM
http://www.shopmaninc.com/foam.html
That's the foam they are talking about. There is another place in your area that sells it, the name is slipping my mind at the moment.
i found this too. http://www.foamseal.com/auto_aftermarket.htm i guess this is the same stuff sport compact car used. i wanna do this.
Sil Beer S13
01-10-2006, 05:29 PM
you still have some soundening i see.
and alot of time on your hands. let me leave my car with you for a while.
FallbrookS13
01-10-2006, 05:41 PM
yeah just the stuff on the shock towers. got lazy
NateKim
01-10-2006, 08:02 PM
What did you paint the interior with? How did you strip the stock sound deadening/paint?
McRussellPants
01-10-2006, 08:08 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/AndrewKing/buildup/tower.jpg
Why did you stitch the seat braces? :keke:
FallbrookS13
01-10-2006, 11:33 PM
What did you paint the interior with? How did you strip the stock sound deadening/paint?
i removed the sound deadening with a air hammer/chisel on a cold night. used that technique for 3 cars and seems to work good. i took the bit to a grinder dulled it down and also taped the end of it with some duct tape. its a very delicate process. i dont actually chisel it off more like just vibrate the metal and it comes flying off. i've done the dry ice and other techniques, but i've figured the air chisel out pretty good and can do a whole car pretty quick.
for the seams i just used a heavy duty wire wheel and a hand chisel and just went out it. this is definitely the most tedious part of the project. there is a pretty huge layer going around the bottom of the rear shock towers. I also cleaned the metal with acetone after that. some day im gonna get a good paint job and at that time ill strip everything and get the whole car sprayed inside and out. but for now its just rattle can... like the exterior of my car. :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/AndrewKing/buildup/tower.jpg
Why did you stitch the seat braces? :keke:
pretty much cause i wanted to, pretty simple. its a triangle piece that connects my shock tower to the chassis which is a strong design and i wanted to reinforce it.... you think that structure is only there to support seats ? i doubt that since the coupe has a whole piece that goes across from shock tower to shock tower.. seems like something they had to design for the hatch that wouldn't go all the way across so there could still be good storage room when the seats are down and also add support... im sure that is why they came up with that piece. in addition im sure some cornering forces will be distributed though that piece and now its stronger.
you can see that in this pic
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/AndrewKing/buildup/reartower.jpg
Gladman
01-10-2006, 11:56 PM
Exactly.... looks cool.
Im surprised you didnt remove all your sound deadening though.
sideview_180sx
01-11-2006, 12:08 AM
Drew you can do my engine bay harness....
-Aaron
andrewmp6
01-11-2006, 12:47 AM
damn you did a shit load of work im lazy i wouldnt have done all that welding lol but it looks great and should be stronger
AeBaSupLook
01-11-2006, 01:25 AM
Looks great! You did a lot more spots then I did with my brothers Corolla. He wants a cage in there later on, so I just put a stitch inbetween every existing spot weld, untill he gets use to the car, no further chassis work will be done for him... I'll do more once he is comfortable driving it.. Chassis prepping is a bitch, but its all worth it at the end of the job. You get to look into how much effort you put in. The s13 chassis also has a lot more seam and area to stitch. Are you going to remove all the glass and stitch around the door frame and other chassis area? Also great job on relocating the wires, its going to be sick once its all done.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/werksremediation/carorra/1-5-0604f.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/werksremediation/carorra/1-6-0601a.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/werksremediation/carorra/1-6-0609.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/werksremediation/carorra/1-6-0603.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/werksremediation/carorra/DSC03793.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/werksremediation/carorra/DSC03805.jpg
FallbrookS13
01-11-2006, 02:37 AM
ill do the more extensive welding later down the road when i get a really good paint job. strip the whole car down again and paint everything inside and out professionally. this was just the result of spare time on my hands
andrewmp6
01-12-2006, 05:30 AM
are you gonna run a cage
FallbrookS13
01-12-2006, 05:39 PM
are you gonna run a cage
someday
Chinoliro
01-13-2006, 09:49 PM
did you cut the wires?
or just unplug/plug again?
DJPimpFlex
01-15-2006, 08:27 PM
did you just weld it in a sequence or did you go sparatically arround the car. I heard that the heat from welding can actually warp the car. You susposta do it on pinchweld stands to keep the chassis true. Looks nice.
AeBaSupLook
01-16-2006, 09:23 PM
Keeping the chassis on the ground with all 4 wheels is more then good enough. Just to keep it on the safe side, you can just go sparatically around, but there isn't much heat really from one stitch. They also cool off fairly fast.
Ichi-Go
01-16-2006, 09:26 PM
Have you ever done it?
It really heats up the metal. If you weld in a line it will get the panel extrememly hot. Maybe when I did it I didnt have the welder setup right or something.
FallbrookS13
01-16-2006, 10:11 PM
no i didnt cut the harness. i unplugged the relays so it could fit through the firewall then put them back in the box
as far as the stitch weld goes. i think its good to do it on just a really level ground. not on jack stands or anything. i would assume that you would want the car loaded in the same situation as it would be while driving. on jack stands or some other rig the car would be potentially unevenly loaded.
who knows though. thats my theory and is what i went with. i would do half a seam then move to a different area of the car. it is a good idea to jump all around the car and do bits and pieces here and there.
like half the front shock tower left .
then half the rear right
then half the front right
half the rear left
then go finish them up in that order.
as for long seams. . do a few spots at the beg. then the end. then the middle then just progressively close it all up
and i mean also this is just a backyard built car. no budget or anything backing it. just me fuckin around with shit. its also just a track beater so its something that is pretty expendable. not some time attack or jgtc car where every minute detail could potentially draw gains. i just stitch welded it to obvious stiffen things up and the car is in good frame condition now and i wanted to tighten it up more. cause as the years go by and you drift and hit up track events more and more the car just gets tired and not as responsive as it was years ago
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