I messed up and i need yoru guys opinon

[teruya01]

to make a long story short, I f.ucked up....badly. I was woundering if i should maybe spend 5-7k to fix it. honeslty now, do you think its worth fixing? im pretty dam sure that the frame is "twisted". another thing is when i crashed, after the impact my car turned off. i had to pull up the ebrake and put the car in park, to get the engine to run agian. help me ppl, Im really tripping out here..this car is my love. -J

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[Dousan_PG]

sell me your hubs
cars totalled
imo

because of rear 1/4 so much to fix !! a lot of money
front MIGHT be easy assuming frame isnt damanged
good luck. dont mind my comment above, im joking around sorry

your car WAS HOT

[91CRXsiR]

insurance? full coverage?
could always go widebody if the frame is straight.. if it still runs get it a shop for an estimate .. hard to tell from pics

[Irukandji]

imo, it's not worth fixing.

like you said,

$$$$ + possible frame damage + a lot of time



Just take it as a valuable lesson and start new. You can probably make a lot of money parting that car out. hope nothing i said offended you.

[infinitexsound]

BS no frame damage maybe suspension. fix it and drive again

[NemeGuero]

Pull everything worth keeping, part out the rest. Car looks pretty damn screwed to me too.

[ngrain]

Hey, did you report it to insurance yet? I'm interested in buying your car if you haven't reported to insurance yet. Where are you locatd in the West coast? Im in socal Los Angeles Area. PM me if your interested. I can take it off your hands.

[!Zar!]

I'll give $5 more than whatever he offers^^^
Sorry about what happened to your car, you alright?

[Dousan_PG]

he's from hawaii

[m0rex]

5-7k to fix it? Damn. You can fix it but it might not end up good if you really expect it to end up looking like new. Well i'd just get a s13 and take my loss.

[95Blue240sx]

doesnt look bad to me. You can get a new rear quater panel at the dealer for about 450, a new front fender for about 40-50. What is going to cost you is labor. If the frame is tweaked it will cost you $$$$$

[Inlandsilvia]

i would fix it.

[OdessaS13]

+1 for totaled
sorry to see that man. most importatly your ok.
car can be replaced.

mind telling what happened?

[Sil Beer S13]

Stop trying to drift open diff auto's.

sell me your taillights.

its done move on to a new car

[OdessaS13]

/\ how do u know its an open dif and how do you know he was drifting?

dont assume

[airsoft]

lol everyone that says abandon ship asked to sell a part they want.

Get estimates, check how bad teh damage actually is, insurance options... etc... check all possiblities...

if it so happens it is SOL... take ur losses

<3

[IAM_SO_sLOw]

are you sure your frame is messed up? kinda looks like cosmetics to me =\

[Revolver Ocelot]

If framed is damaged part it. If not, fix it. But besides that, its good to hear that you are alright. A car can be replaced, you cant replace yourself. :D

[eyustfu]

id total it/part it out. if there was damage like that to my car i wouldn't even want it as much even if its fixed. you still know that its there.

[mmdb]

Didn't know you could buy a rear 1/4 panel seperately, but if so that's a really good thing. Reason is it'll be a matter of removing the 1/4 (which will be a lot of labor and $$$) and replacing the fender, bumper, side light, headlight, and paint, which isn't too bad if you have time and money.

Like they said previously, if the frame is bent, which i kinda doubt from the pictures, then you're fine. Otherwise it'll probably be better to start on a new chassis. S14 zenki's are decently cheap, otherwise kouki's aren't too bad. You can pick up an auto and swap your manual (assuming your car is manual) into it.

Anyway, I've been in the same situation. I got in a front end collision and destroyed everything up front. I ended up replacing all that was damaged and now my car looks better than it did before. Don't get yourself down, there's always other options. Just a matter of time before you're riding in another 240.

[YakuzaS14]

5-7 where did u come up with that number and how do u know the frame is fucked

[Hitawall]

ill fix it fo $7g's , got all the peices and what i dont i will cut off my car

[tastyratz]

dude just throw on a 20mm widebody fiberglass panel on the rears, cut out everything between them and call it a day. frame is probabbly fine get some underbody pics if you want our opinion on that. its not worth trying to bend that back all pretty but the edges where the widebody would go should be fairly easy to correct to fit them.

[KOUKI KA-T]

It's gotta be totalled.
I overcorrected and slid up against a steel support cable once. It was all flexible and shit but it ran from the driver door all the way back to the taillight. Purely cosmetic and it still cost 4500$ to fix. Door skin, rear quarter (labor is a lot on that one from removing all the glass, cutting and welding the quarter midway on the rear pillar) rear bumper, taillight, trunk lid paint and labor.
You have a lot more than that to deal with from the front end damage and possible twisted frame. I wouldn't invest the time or money when you can just get another one for 7-8k.

[95Blue240sx]

Well what i think you should do first is take it to a frame shop. Have them check out the frame to see if its strait or not.

Dont listen to what some of these guys say, they just want your parts. Do what you think you can. Some of them do give good info, so check all your options before laying down a decision. Good luck!

[-usmd-180sx]

another 1 bites the dust.. part it.. and good luck...

c'mon... u fucked up street drifting eh? dont be shy :doh:

[DirtyRottenScoundrel]

Wow, so much for the helpful tips. First off, take your car to some garage/bodyshop you know and trust and ask them to check it out. If you know them it will be free....no cash there. Trust me, I've been in a MVA where I hit a truck head on at 50mph and I think I could say that the damage you have, its not a twisted frame. Mind you I don't know how/what/why your car got wrecked but still, go to someone who can check it out for you. If it's not twisted go through insurance(if you want and get the stuff fixed), and of course do the usual "over-priced" quote from a shop and then get the money and buy some nice stuff for your car. Just don't freak out! you'll have your car all nice and fixed up. Just be smart about it and you can even afford some extra toys for it as well, thanks to your friendly neighbourhood Insurance man.

[drftwerks]

Carbon Doors And Rear Over Fenders

Time For Wide Body

[drift freaq]

your car is completely fixable. do not listen to these guys who tell you different. Strictly speaking from a bodyword standpoint that is all repairable bodywork. From the pics I can tell you have no frame damage. What is expensive or can be expensive is your quarter panel repair. basically you have two choices pull the metal with a slide hammer (old fashioned way) and get inside your passenger compartment and push out some of it, or cut and weld. I prefer cut and weld, because it will come out cleaner and more original with lot less if none body putty. Now is the time to find a body shop and become good friends with the owner. If you do that you might just get the hook up job because he likes you and has sympathy for your situation. Yes there are actaully people out there like that. :D I know I have hook ups. This is all if you can't do welding yourself. There is another guy on here that had worse quarter panel damage on his S14 than yours and he did a cut and weld job.
On your front end you may have slightly tweaked the outer edge of your core support. That is something that could probably be straightened on your own with a body block and body hammer.( you can get these at your local parts store.) As far as paint goes that is actually where a lot of costs get run up in body repair. Its expensive to have them match and spray. If you get the shop to just do cut and weld and primer it might be a lot less pricey.
Like someone else said go to the body shop get a estimate to start. Stop speculating on how much the damage would cost if you do not know how to estimate that stuff. Let the pro's tell you. Then follow my suggestions above . You could probably fix your car back to straight looking, but not perfect, i.e. still would need paint for around $1500 total, maybe less. Don't give up yet!!! Its a Kouki S14!!

[Tenchuu]

mmm looks like it's time for a chargespeed widebody kit. i'm with with him^^ it doesn't have any buckeling to the adjacent body panels so the frame may still be good. and the 1/4 panel, after being in there to do some work, I know it is all air behind it. little to none for reinforcement. chances are it's cosmetic. looks like i low speed sorta thing. like you got most of the way slowed down before it happened. go get estimates, then ask around for bodywork hookups if friends know anyone it just may work out. then look for paint from there. worst comes to worst you'll have to drive it in "air supiority" primer black for a bit. mine is looking at that possibility, but i got a new complete body kit out of just a coupe of scratches. remember that insurance companies are out to screw you. screw them back whenever possible.

[aznpoopy]

i agree with drift freaq...

front looks like an easy fix. replace. if anything is bent its just a litttttle teeny bit on the very frontmost part. bend it back.

rear, um ow. but hardly the end of the car... unless you want it to be.

[NemeGuero]

All that fixing is assuming hes going to do the repairs himself. I'm pretty sure the insurance will total it out.

first off.. Insurance will value his car as cheap as they can possibly make it.

second.. estimates for that work will exceed that price.. (new fender, new quarter panel hack job, new bumpers (front and rear), hew head light, new corner light, new rad support)

So without "hook-ups" or skilled friends.. car is totalled.

[trsilvias13]

without hook up the rear is abotu 5k with a paint job.. happen to my old s14 before. That was marked way up so then I got a greddy kit and full paint job.

[aznpoopy]

maaaaybe neme

kouki s14 KBB value ranges between 4000-7000

as long as the repairs cost less then the estimated KBB value of the car, the insurance company will not total it.

[kazuo]

Ya, kouki KBB value is relatively high.

The quarter is clearly fucked, and frame damage cannot be determined by internet body repairmen.

You need to get that shit on a rack and have it checked.

If its coo, here's what I'd do... get the insurance to take a look, see how much they wanna give you; if you really wanna keep the car, and can live with the messed up quarter, take as much as they'll give you, get the frame repaired (if required/possible), fix the front end, and spend the rest on paint & hookers.

Leave the rear quarter and rock your body damage.

Rear quarter replacement = $$$$ (seriously like $2k+)

Friends dont let friends kill cookie monsters.

EDIT: Shit I didnt notce how the panel was crunched so much that its literally on the rim. Poo. hahahha

You can get that fixed enough that itll be driveable.

Also, take it to a body shop or a guy you know, so that way he can cut you a estimate for just under what the insurance values the car at, so the car wont be totalled/salvage title.

Again, its up to you what you wanna do with it.

As long as it rolls straight and you can bang out that rear quarter to clear the wheel...

[Bryants95240sx]

Dont report it to insurance and fix it .

[SR240DET]

B FUCKIN S..... that is not totaled

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=94177

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=92041

i can help you get yours fixed for way under 5 grand... you have to go to different people insted of one shop... and do the work your self.... its not hard just common sense.. and knowing your way with tools..


also check your drive shaft and make sure your center bushing isnt crushed in... unbolt it to make sure it isnt egg shaped... let me know if it is... and i can help you fix it...

if your going to total it.. ill take the damn thing and fix it my self...

[DP_Michelle G]

Is there any inside damage to the trunk?

[Aldus]

Friends car looked almost exactly like that except more damage up front. Cost him ~$3k to fix I believe.

[ngrain]

B FUCKIN S..... that is not totaled

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=94177

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=92041

i can help you get yours fixed for way under 5 grand... you have to go to different people insted of one shop... and do the work your self.... its not hard just common sense.. and knowing your way with tools..


also check your drive shaft and make sure your center bushing isnt crushed in... unbolt it to make sure it isnt egg shaped... let me know if it is... and i can help you fix it...

if your going to total it.. ill take the damn thing and fix it my self...

HAHAHAHAHAHA your smart.....you sectioned the wrong place....that is what you call a MICKEY MOUSE JOB!!! No one ever sections quarter panels right there. Only IDIOTS that dont know what they are doing do that. Let me guess, you don't care if its done the right way as long as it moves and looks fine and CHEAP. THERES A REASON WHY THE DEALERSHIP SELLS A COMPLETE QUARTER PANEL, NOT HALF. DONT YOU KNOW WELDING THAT PART OF THE QUARTER PANEL WILL MAKE YOUR QUARTER PANEL WEAKER THAN OEM..YOUR SUPPOSE TO MAKE IT THE SAME OR BETTER NOT WORST YOU IDIOT. THATS WHY BODY SHOPS CHARGE A LOT...IF YOU WANNA LEARN BODY WORK, GO TO SCHOOL AND PAY TO LEARN SOMETHING BEFORE YOU GO MESSING AROUND DOING SLOPPY SHIET THAT WILL HURT NOT ONLY YOU BUT OTHER PEOPLE DURING A COLLISION. Ever heard of a lemon car? Yup, thats what yours is now.
I bet he didnt even put E-poxy primer and corrosion protection....I know you wouldn't because the way you sectioned your car, you wouldn't know what the procedures would be anyway. IDIOT!!

[Bryants95240sx]

dude its just a qtr pannel its not like he welded two diffrent chasis's together. Your the idiot coming on here e-thuggin on some one with your second post.

[ngrain]

dude its just a qtr pannel its not like he welded two diffrent chasis's together. Your the idiot coming on here e-thuggin on some one with your second post.

LOL, you don't even know what I'm talking about so whose the idiot now?

[nigel1]

quarter panels arent impossible to change. just get in there and do it. do some interweb searching before you start. my friend does quarterpanel changes all day long as a living, and he's no more smarter than anyone else.

[ngrain]

Your right, its not hard to change it if you know how to do it the right way, unlike that dude up top.

[JaeTea]

Is there any inside damage to the trunk?


Yeah, I'd like to see some pics of the trunk or under the passenger seat. :ughd:

[Tenchuu]

HAHAHAHAHAHA your smart.....you sectioned the wrong place....that is what you call a MICKEY MOUSE JOB!!! No one ever sections quarter panels right there. Only IDIOTS that dont know what they are doing do that. Let me guess, you don't care if its done the right way as long as it moves and looks fine and CHEAP. THERES A REASON WHY THE DEALERSHIP SELLS A COMPLETE QUARTER PANEL, NOT HALF. DONT YOU KNOW WELDING THAT PART OF THE QUARTER PANEL WILL MAKE YOUR QUARTER PANEL WEAKER THAN OEM..YOUR SUPPOSE TO MAKE IT THE SAME OR BETTER NOT WORST YOU IDIOT. THATS WHY BODY SHOPS CHARGE A LOT...IF YOU WANNA LEARN BODY WORK, GO TO SCHOOL AND PAY TO LEARN SOMETHING BEFORE YOU GO MESSING AROUND DOING SLOPPY SHIET THAT WILL HURT NOT ONLY YOU BUT OTHER PEOPLE DURING A COLLISION. Ever heard of a lemon car? Yup, thats what yours is now.
I bet he didnt even put E-poxy primer and corrosion protection....I know you wouldn't because the way you sectioned your car, you wouldn't know what the procedures would be anyway. IDIOT!!


you have a point, and i would second that a whole quater panal should be replaced, but there is no reason to get personal with you attacks. acutually is isn't smiled on here at all. calling him an idiot once would have done. but in the end, it's his car, and if he wants to graft wings to the sides of it and put 30 inch rims and a lft kit on it, it is his decision and not anyone elses.
"A" for effort and info, delivery could use some tact. nothing aginst you, but since you seem kinda new just alerting you to trends that will get you the banstick around here.

[JVD]

Stop trying to drift open diff auto's.

sell me your taillights.

its done move on to a new car
+1

+1

+1

[drifter808]

Seems fixable to me. Just pull out the rear quarter as much you can and then just throw on some wide fenders and be done with it. The front is just gonna be replacing the panels and maybe tweaking the bumper support some. If your in Hawaii i have a friend here on Big Island that has a spare S14 and he might be willing to sell you some parts. Just let me know.

[scir16v]

I just got my 98 back from the body shop. They quoted almost 3k to cut the rear qtr off and put a new one on, along with a bumper cover. (and no, it wasn't a drifting accident. G/F got a nascar nudge by a semi.)

The front will probably come in at around another 2k.

For insurance, it's probably totalled.

I doubt there's frame damage, but get it on a rack and go over it with a fine tooth comb and measure everything. (remember, you measure diagonally for every measurement)

[FaLKoN240]

Ngrain stop being an E-thug, and learn to use proper english before you flame someone.

[Ghettokracker71]

agreed 240falkon,also stay on topic!!

As long as the frame isn't fucked up,the decision is truly up to you. If you decide to fix it,no matter which way you go,it could turn into a major headache,and some extra work including maybe do over work. While I know their completely unrelated,my dads truck got hit real nasty,a full sized ford van hit him dead on the passenger side. Its almost 4 years later,the frame was NOT bent,yet he still has quirks,and problems,squeaks. That thing will never be right. But on the other hand,you get yourself into another 240,say fuck this one. You could be getting yourself into some POS hack job where people were cutting quarter panels in half,and rewelding them,wich in turn,could be a major headache.


I say first find out your options with your current car. It can't hurt to at least get a better or clearer understanding to what its actually going to take to get this baby back in top notch shape. Maybe you and your friends could do some of the work? Looks like the front end you might be able to do the grunt work,and get the rear fixed?

[SR240DET]

HAHAHAHAHAHA your smart.....you sectioned the wrong place....that is what you call a MICKEY MOUSE JOB!!! No one ever sections quarter panels right there. Only IDIOTS that dont know what they are doing do that. Let me guess, you don't care if its done the right way as long as it moves and looks fine and CHEAP. THERES A REASON WHY THE DEALERSHIP SELLS A COMPLETE QUARTER PANEL, NOT HALF. DONT YOU KNOW WELDING THAT PART OF THE QUARTER PANEL WILL MAKE YOUR QUARTER PANEL WEAKER THAN OEM..YOUR SUPPOSE TO MAKE IT THE SAME OR BETTER NOT WORST YOU IDIOT. THATS WHY BODY SHOPS CHARGE A LOT...IF YOU WANNA LEARN BODY WORK, GO TO SCHOOL AND PAY TO LEARN SOMETHING BEFORE YOU GO MESSING AROUND DOING SLOPPY SHIET THAT WILL HURT NOT ONLY YOU BUT OTHER PEOPLE DURING A COLLISION. Ever heard of a lemon car? Yup, thats what yours is now.
I bet he didnt even put E-poxy primer and corrosion protection....I know you wouldn't because the way you sectioned your car, you wouldn't know what the procedures would be anyway. IDIOT!!

that quarter came from a parts car.. i had no choice.... the back part of it was un usable... everything was done right... execpt forthat quarter...doesnt matter once i get done with college this chassis is going to be my dedicated race car... so i dont see what all your bitchin is about you fuckin newb....

[ThatGuy]

ngrain, that'll be enough E-thugging out of you. If you can't find a better way to get your point accross without personal attacks, then you will placed on restriction (PINKED). Understand?

[drifter808]

B FUCKIN S..... that is not totaled

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=94177

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=92041

i can help you get yours fixed for way under 5 grand... you have to go to different people insted of one shop... and do the work your self.... its not hard just common sense.. and knowing your way with tools..


also check your drive shaft and make sure your center bushing isnt crushed in... unbolt it to make sure it isnt egg shaped... let me know if it is... and i can help you fix it...

if your going to total it.. ill take the damn thing and fix it my self...


That actually came out really nice. You cant even tell it was hit with the primer on it. Have you gotten it painted yet. Would like to see how that came out.

[KiDyNomiTe]

I've fucked my car almost as bad as that (worse in the front), fixed the rear. Front will be fixed after holiday seasons. Not looking for anytihing perfect, but Aero covers all..

[SR240DET]

That actually came out really nice. You cant even tell it was hit with the primer on it. Have you gotten it painted yet. Would like to see how that came out.


no paint yet... ran out of money just paid for my classes... spring time is the new date to get painted....



I've fucked my car almost as bad as that (worse in the front), fixed the rear. Front will be fixed after holiday seasons. Not looking for anytihing perfect, but Aero covers all..

lets see some pictures.... :)

[The Riot Hero]

that damage really isnt bad, its not as easy to tweak the frame as everyone thinks it is, its completely fixable, and shouldnt cost too much if you shop around, the front end you could do yourself easily to save money, the rear should be done professionally and shouldnt be much more then 2-3 grand, they should be able to match the paint pretty easily. dont give up on it.

pretty rediculous how many people would jump to saying its totalled, maybe thats why theres so many perfectly good S chassis cars in junkyards, everyone reshell crazy, we're going to run out of cars soon if you reshell everytime you crunch a fender.

oh, also if you want to drive the car without the rear tire hitting you could probably pull the rear interior panels out and hammer that quarter panel out away from the tire a bit with a block of wood.

[NemeGuero]

Yes its fixable.. But insurance won't do it. End of thread.

[teruya01]

all i can say is, Im dumb. anyhow, to the people that are not acting foolish, thanks.

btw, if i do part out my car.. whats a good price to ask for my front lip, sides, and rear valance, 5lug wheels, seats and other interior parts? also what do you guy think a fair price is for the tanabe Sustec Pro Type II coilovers..riding on them for a good 6months.

[NemeGuero]

front lip -250
sides -250-300

[KiDyNomiTe]

lets see some pictures.... :)
Before:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/kidynomite/alms737.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/kidynomite/DD6_13.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/kidynomite/damage2.jpg

After:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/kidynomite/dd9b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/kidynomite/dd9.jpg

Havent put the rear bumper on, but it will wrap around the hole at the bottom, and I need to cover it up with some fiberglass also to keep fumes out of the car.

[tastyratz]

in continuance to ethuggies post who could have made an educated response with key points instead of middle school insult comedy whine... I was always told by some people that if you do a good strong proper weld the section can be stronger than the original point for the metal itself. If this is true, then technically why would it matter where it was sectioned? crumple zones? could someone elaborate on that for me?

[TopClassGarage]

Agreed to the last 2 posts, ^ It is very fixable, I highly doubt there is frame damage, but know one will know becouse of impact shock, etc. The best bet would be to take it to a shop and have it put on the rack, testing it, But it looks to me, it wont be so bad. good luck, heres a zenki I recovered.. lol frame damage my ass, http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/Drifter240sx/08-18-05_0745.jpg