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JeNn
12-19-2005, 05:46 PM
hello... we have a s13 with 245/40/17 tires on 17x9 +35 wheel in rear.

what should we do in the front to 1) clear z brake 2) clear most coilovers 3) no fender pulling/rolling or add spacer

17x7 +35 wheels in the front?
17x8 +35 wheels in the front?

215/40/17 tires?
215/45/17 tires?
225/45/17 tires?
235/45/17 tires?

I understand this topic has been asked before but not to my specification... I would like everyone's opinion if possible. Thanks in advance.

KiDyNomiTe
12-19-2005, 05:52 PM
search through the wheel fitment thread, so many people have 17x9s, they will all fit different.

You could make any one of those tire sizes work, and any one of those widths work, or even wider widths...

mr_240sx
12-19-2005, 08:22 PM
i would go 17x9 +20 in the front with a 215 or 225 tire!

wootwoot
12-19-2005, 09:39 PM
Not without pulling/rolling fenders you wont fit a 17x9 +20 on an s13

17x7 +25 or +20 with a 215 or 205 should clear with ease

nlzmo400r
12-19-2005, 10:24 PM
I would go no smaller than an 8" up front. And you can fit any size you want. A 17x9 with a 20offset does NOT require any kind of pulling,especially with a 225/45 or a 235/40. Also, do yourself a favor and don't go any taller than a 225/45 if you want to be low. 215/45-225/45-235/40-245/40 and even a 255/40 (same height as a 225/45) are all ok. Ive gone as big as a 255/40/17 all around on my s13 (17x8.5 '+25') with no rubbing.

wootwoot
12-19-2005, 11:29 PM
a 17x9+20 should clear on an s14 with no body mods but are you sure about that on an s13?

JeNn
12-20-2005, 01:00 AM
the front is either going to be 17x7 +35 or 17x8 +35, not +20.

We tried 17x9 +35 and 245 in the front, boy that loosk like a lot of work to make it fit. I am currently thinking to get 17x7 +35 and some 225/45/17. What you guys think?

orion::S14
12-20-2005, 07:03 AM
to 1) clear z brake 2) clear most coilovers 3) no fender pulling/rolling or add spacer...

Best bet, for guaranteed fitment under your terms and good look:

17X8, +25 with 225/45-17

Make it happen. If you must, buy the 8", +35 wheel and run a 10mm spacer.

7" is too skinny...to maintain good balance with a 245/40 on a 9" rear, you need a 8" with that 225 tire.

- Brian

trsilvias13
12-20-2005, 11:02 AM
yea.. it be better to tell us if it a s13 or s14 . And if it a s14 95-96 front or 97-98 front, the 97/98 front fender are 10mm wider so you can get away 10mm lower offset.

i run 225/45/17 on a 8.5 +22 offset in the front on a 97 240sx. It clears no problem in the front. Infact, I think it can with a lower offset. No camber/no roll/no pull needed.

mr_240sx
12-20-2005, 05:06 PM
17x9 +20 should fit because im running 18x9+20 with 225/40/18 with stock fenders on my s13!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/mr_240sx/89%20nissan%20240sx/Pict0130.jpg

KrazyZenki
12-20-2005, 06:33 PM
Not to thread jack but more for clarification while were on the subject. I have 17x8 +35 in the front and 17x9 +20 in the back and was planning on running 225/45/17 and 255/40/17 respectively(yhis is on an S14). Do you forsee and clearance issues and are any on the sizes to wide? I plan to autoX the car if that helps.

Thanks

wootwoot
12-20-2005, 06:40 PM
Those wheels dont even fit.......The tires clear but thats about it

mr_240sx
12-20-2005, 08:09 PM
im gonna get some -camber in the spring along with roller my fenders and hopefully i dont have to pull much.

nlzmo400r
12-20-2005, 10:00 PM
Not to thread jack but more for clarification while were on the subject. I have 17x8 +35 in the front and 17x9 +20 in the back and was planning on running 225/45/17 and 255/40/17 respectively(yhis is on an S14). Do you forsee and clearance issues and are any on the sizes to wide? I plan to autoX the car if that helps.

Thanks

You should probably go wider up front if you want to be flush. Also, if you plan on autoX on that setup, expect a sh!t load of undsteer. Why dont you run a 235/40 up front and a 245/40 out back? Or perhaps get the 17x9 +20 all around and run 235/40 or 245/40 all around?

nlzmo400r
12-20-2005, 10:02 PM
Those wheels dont even fit.......The tires clear but thats about it

those wheels easily fit. Look how high the car sits. Now if it was slammed itd be a tight fit, but itd still work. Ive got a friend with 18x9 r34 GTr wheels and he has the same 225/40 but his car is probably about 2inches lower than the one in the picture. His s/n is lilredstiffy here on zilvia.

wootwoot
12-21-2005, 12:23 AM
They stick out past the fenders, if you consider that fitting then thats fine by me but I personally dont believe in the roller skate look. With a good pull on the fenders I think it would look much better.

harlockssx
12-21-2005, 02:38 AM
They stick out past the fenders, if you consider that fitting then thats fine by me but I personally dont believe in the roller skate look. With a good pull on the fenders I think it would look much better.

Agreed! Reminds me of some of those lowrider trucks I used to see back in Texas...

orion::S14
12-21-2005, 06:35 AM
... I have 17x8 +35 in the front and 17x9 +20 in the back and was planning on running 225/45/17 and 255/40/17 respectively(yhis is on an S14). Do you forsee and clearance issues and are any on the sizes to wide? I plan to autoX the car if that helps.

For autocross, it'd be better to run the 17X9, +20 all around...with the same size tire. 235/45, 245/40, or 235/40 if you don't mind a gear reduction...will all be fine.

- Brian

240sxislander
12-21-2005, 06:54 AM
I think he's planning on tucking the wheels under the fenders. The pic posted by mr240sx shows his wheels sticking out of the fender. The tire is inside, which is the confusing part. I always see pics of other S13's with about the same offset and people claim that its flush, which it isn't. Yes, the tire is flush, not the wheel. So, what will be a correct offset to properly tuck the wheel and tire inside the fender with a 0 camber? Is a 17x8" +40mm too much? How about clearance issues, will it hit with coilovers? By the way, sorry to jump on your thread JeNn, but I'm curious myself....

KrazyZenki
12-21-2005, 05:33 PM
You should probably go wider up front if you want to be flush. Also, if you plan on autoX on that setup, expect a sh!t load of undsteer. Why dont you run a 235/40 up front and a 245/40 out back? Or perhaps get the 17x9 +20 all around and run 235/40 or 245/40 all around?

Well the tire Im going with is the new Falken Azenzi RT-615 and they dont have a 245/40 according to their site. Wouldnt a 235 be a bit wide for a 8" rim? Why do you say expect a shit load of understeer?

For autocross, it'd be better to run the 17X9, +20 all around...with the same size tire. 235/45, 245/40, or 235/40 if you don't mind a gear reduction...will all be fine.

I am thinking running 17x9 all around after seeing the RT-615s limited tire size. Out of those sizes you mentioned the only one they have is the 235/40 so I think Ill sell my 17x8 and buy 17x9 +20. What did you mean buy "gear reduction"? Thanks for the input.



Anyone looking for 2 17x8 +35 5Zigen FN01Rcs in matte black?

trsilvias13
12-21-2005, 06:30 PM
8in = 203 millimeter ~ 205 wide tires is perfect for it. I have fit 225 on a 8in and i put 245 on a 8in wheel before. 235 wouldnt be that wide

nlzmo400r
12-21-2005, 09:03 PM
a 235/40/17 would look fine on an 8. First of all, with Falken Azenis (rt215 and rt615) the tire size almost doesnt matter. Those tires' sidewalls are so stiff that they dont stretch, and they don't bulge either. Ive had 225/45 on my 8.5's and it didnt stretch much at all (nothing compared to the 225/45 polepositions I have now anyway) and ive also run a 255/40 falken azenis rt615 on the same wheel and it looked close to the same. The reason I predicted understeer is because a 225/45 isn't a very wide tire and will lose its grip much before a 255/40 of the same compound gives in and slides. So when coming out of a corner, you'll have plenty of grip in the rear with the 255 to power out, but the 225 up front will be overloaded and will slide= understeer. Id say try to run as close to the same size as possible. Ive had the best success with 255/40 falken azenis rt615's all around.

Well the tire Im going with is the new Falken Azenzi RT-615 and they dont have a 245/40 according to their site. Wouldnt a 235 be a bit wide for a 8" rim? Why do you say expect a shit load of understeer?



I am thinking running 17x9 all around after seeing the RT-615s limited tire size. Out of those sizes you mentioned the only one they have is the 235/40 so I think Ill sell my 17x8 and buy 17x9 +20. What did you mean buy "gear reduction"? Thanks for the input.



Anyone looking for 2 17x8 +35 5Zigen FN01Rcs in matte black?

KrazyZenki
12-22-2005, 06:50 PM
What size rim are you running 255s all around on?

nlzmo400r
12-22-2005, 09:49 PM
17x8.5 (+25) with 255/40/17 rt615

baka_na_kuruma
12-23-2005, 12:07 AM
Not to thread jack but more for clarification while were on the subject. I have 17x8 +35 in the front and 17x9 +20 in the back and was planning on running 225/45/17 and 255/40/17 respectively(yhis is on an S14). Do you forsee and clearance issues and are any on the sizes to wide? I plan to autoX the car if that helps.

Thanks


Go with 17x8 with 235/45/17 up front. I have no issues at all:D . Yes, I'm a :newbie:. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c132/hayai240sx/silvias14012.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c132/hayai240sx/silvias14003.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c132/hayai240sx/silvias14001.jpg

baka_na_kuruma
12-23-2005, 12:10 AM
Not to thread jack but more for clarification while were on the subject. I have 17x8 +35 in the front and 17x9 +20 in the back and was planning on running 225/45/17 and 255/40/17 respectively(yhis is on an S14). Do you forsee and clearance issues and are any on the sizes to wide? I plan to autoX the car if that helps.

Thanks


Go with 17x8 with 235/45/17 up front. I have no issues at all:D . Yes, I'm a :newbie:. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c132/hayai240sx/silvias14012.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c132/hayai240sx/silvias14003.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c132/hayai240sx/silvias14001.jpg

nlzmo400r
12-23-2005, 11:12 PM
Go with 17x8 with 235/45/17 up front. I have no issues at all:D . Yes, I'm a :newbie:. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c132/hayai240sx/silvias14012.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c132/hayai240sx/silvias14003.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c132/hayai240sx/silvias14001.jpg


a 235/45 is just too tall. If you don't mind your car sitting high, then its fine and will feel up some of the wheel gap, but if you want to go low, nothng taller than 225/45 (i.e- 235/40- 245/40- 225/45 and MAYBE 255/40)

baka_na_kuruma
12-24-2005, 02:37 AM
My set up is just like keichi tsuchiya's S14 :bowdown:, but I can't drift:squint: :wtc: . Haha, only in my dreams:zzz:.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c132/hayai240sx/silvias14001.jpg

Revolver Ocelot
12-24-2005, 03:32 AM
^Holy crap that S14 is high! Iam running 17x9+15 with a 245/45 in the front tucking a little bit of tire. No issues. Stock fenders to. No roll.

wootwoot
12-24-2005, 12:57 PM
Man, the thing is low enough. There isnt harsh wheel gap or anything. Its easily driveable almost anywhere I bet

dct223
12-24-2005, 03:37 PM
that red s14 up there is pretty high.... 235/45 is not too big... i bet with some better suspension you could bring it lower and it would be perfect.. I rather run a slightly bigger tire than a smaller one.. Ive tried smaller tires and shit was retarded... u could spin them faster yea, but u top out gears faster and go slower....