My RB swap progress (lots of pics 56K beware)

[kouki_s14]

so my story begins with this motor, if you saw my other thread you saw all my extras with the motor
http://tinypic.com/idhnhv.jpg
going in this car
http://tinypic.com/idhnra.jpg
i wanted to prep the motor a bit so i check out the oil pan and saw this
http://tinypic.com/idho3m.jpg
VERY big dent, took it off and thankfully i found the oil pickup was not damaged, i picked up a new oil pan and put it on
http://tinypic.com/idhpnc.jpg
i assumed that i needed a new clutch just to be safe since the motor is out of the car so i picked up a exedy oem spec clutch kit, but to my surprise while taking off the tranny i saw this very shiny purple thing blind me
http://tinypic.com/idhq8l.jpg
yup thats a exedy hyper single clutch/pressure playe/flywheel combo (worth like $1300) i was so happy, this front clip had already gave me so many other surprises, i wonder what else i can find
well heres a pic of how my car sits with the ka
http://tinypic.com/idhqpe.jpg
http://tinypic.com/idhqte.jpg
i will measure again with the motor out and again with the RB in so you guys can see the comparision(BTW im slammed on apexi world sport dampers 8kf-6kr i believe)
heres the intercooler shot just for the hell of it its 24x9x3
http://tinypic.com/idhrb8.jpg
now the real start
http://tinypic.com/idhsms.jpg
this thing is not gonna be in there for much longer
http://tinypic.com/idhsup.jpg
some more progress, my car looks so ugly
http://tinypic.com/idhtt4.jpg
http://tinypic.com/idhwlx.jpg
thats about where i ended the night, wiring harness does not want to come out, i was tired and hungry so i decided to call it a night
my deadline goal is to get it running by christmas, i might not update too much on weekends since i work pretty much all day fri-sun but mon-thurs i will be working on it as much as i can. thanks for looking and if anyone has tips on how to get the harness out it would be great!


henry

more to come....

[exitspeed]

Looks fun. Nice suprise. Nice pics too...

[mrmephistopheles]

World Sports are closer to 6k/4k (at least for S13)

[ALTRNTV]

Yummy.

[TopClassGarage]

Awsome, I would like to get your aim, or email, and when you get some time I would like to talk about your swap, I also have a RB25 clip, a series 2 I believe. It is going into my s14 when Im ready. Before I put it in i might upgrade the exhaust and intake mani's and maybe injectors, Ill see what my wallet has in store for it.

Besides that LOOKS AWSOME!

Rob

[MELLO*SOS]

Awesome man that's a really nice surprise to find! This thread really fires me up about getting my RB dropped in. Nice car btw!

[SilviaNinja240]

Nice car to begin with! I'm sure it's going be to tight when you're done. G'luck!

[Johny5]

loosen the blower motor and a/c from the firewall and you can kind of pry them off the wall, the harness is actually being pinched by one or the other i cannot recall correctly. but you'll see what you need to do, they're the 10mm bright gold nuts with huge shoulders, can't miss em. remove them then you'll get about 1" worth of play from the ac/blower and its enough to pull the harness out. good luck with the swap bro!

[mr_240sx]

good job man!!! remember to keep us updated!

[NemeGuero]

So whatcha gonna do with that KA??

[silviaz]

I like that. I hope everything will be fine for you. That's rare to see a S14 with a RB swap.

[Tenchuu]

looks like you are doing the smae thing that i am setting up to do once i get money back from my scammer..... good job, and be sure to keep us posted.

[anotherblusi]

The harness has a ziptie holding it up by the ac. Yank on the harness away from the ac unit till you hear a pop. Then the harness will be free to pull out from the engine bay. Nice come up btw on the clutch,

[kouki_s14]

yea i when i was in the car i saw it blower blocking it i took off bolts n stuff but i guess it wasnt enough to loosen it. i gave up because i was tired but i will look for any other bolts i missed. thanks for the help and sorry guys i plan to keep the KA incase i get caught and have to swap back. i didnt have any time to work on it today because i had work and a birthday party to go to, i will work on it more tomorrow with more pictures and updates

[andrewmp6]

you gonna leave it a auto or make it a a stick

[CaoBoY]

well if he was planning on putting in a clutch...gee what do you think?! fawk people need to read.

[luckyrb13]

Looks yummy iam so jealous that you got that clutch in your motor. Alll my clip gave me was a busted alternator. Hey if you still have the clutch kit i might be intersted if you wanna sell it pm me. Good luck on the swap.

[pignosecoupe]

<-- this guy's jelous :)

[180sxdrifter]

are u gona keep the stock intake manifold of the RB? :drool:

[kouki_s14]

yea im keeping the stock intake manifold for now
its late so i will post pictures next time, but i finished gettin the harness out, took off my shifter, drained everything, just about ready to pull the motor, just need to get the driveshaft off the diff, which is giving me trouble (help/ideas here would be appreciated!!), i only had a little while to work on it today since i got off work late and i have work early tomorrow
progress is slower than expect, but i hope to have the RB sitting in there by tuesday or wednesday depending on how long my work day is tomorrow

o yea for anyone with questions about the swap my AIM is henrys14k
i will do my best to help those planning to swap themselves, i probably wont be too helpful until im actually done with the swap, cuz i wont really know everything but ill do my best to help until then, and i sent my harness out to get wired professionally so sorry i cant help anyone with wiring

will post more later but thats it for tonight

[Revolver Ocelot]

Which mount kit are you gonna go with?

[andrewmp6]

looks like hes gonna use the r33 cross member

[kouki_s14]

syko performance kit
the one in the group buy section

pics n stuff in my other thread http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=95467

[andrewmp6]

how low does the kit put the engine most dont use a r33 crossmember since it makes the engine sit foward and high

[NemeGuero]

syko performance kits for the win!!

[gorgasm]

Damn man im jealous its going to be awesome when your done. I have a few questions for you, check your PMs.

[kouki_s14]

heres a small update, didnt really get much done today but here you go

took out the shifter
http://tinypic.com/igf8ys.jpg
http://tinypic.com/igf95y.jpg
got the harness out, thanks for the help and info, this forum is great! i missed a few bolts on the blower and after i took them off i got enough slack for the harness to squeeze out
http://tinypic.com/igf98n.jpg
got the driveshaft off, but it was dam hard with the small amount of space and only being able to use a open wrench, had to use a technique of putting two of the open wrenchs together to lengthen it and get enough leverage to loosen it, it works really well for the nuts and bolts that require a open wrench
http://tinypic.com/igf9fk.jpg
here is where i left it
http://tinypic.com/igf9yf.jpg
i would have pulled the motor today, but i was workin by myself today and it doesnt seem like a good idea to pull the motor without at least another person helping you, so its gettin put off until tomorrow

sorry if it seems like im posting useless pictures and such, but flame me if you want (already had shit said on club240), but i felt like posting the pictures i took as my personal log. deal with it or dont read this thread

and i got a few pm's about where and how much i got my motor from/for.
just so i dont get a million other messages ill post it here
my uncle owns a junkyard (winstar wrecking) that deals with alot of 240's and he imports crates of motors (SR, RB, 2JZ, 3SGTE....) so i got it from him, many people in the socal area probably deals with him for parts/motors and such and as for the price i cannot say since there are people who buy from him and i do not want to say anything he wouldnt want me to say (i did not get it for free i paid with my own hard earned cash, i saved for years). it was funny, i've been into 240's for years and never knew my family had this kind of business, call me lucky, cuz i am but i am also very grateful

and heres a list of parts i bought that most people out there will need
also included are some parts for an auto-manual

mount kit - $1,000.00 (syko performance)
walbro fuel pump - $90 (group buy)
SS clutch line - $22 (group buy)
clutch hardline - $50 (dealer/junkyard)
Intercooler - $200 (anywhere)
IC Piping -$350 (custom, im guessin here since i havnt had it done yet)
Wiring - $375 (its more expensive cuz mine is OBDII and auto)
Clutch cylinders - $71.00 (ebay)
clutch - $160.00 ( i have mine i just bought, but obviously i dont need it anymore so if anyone wants it, Exedy oem spec, includes pressure plate, clutch, alignment tool, pilot and throwout bearing)
clutch bracket/pedal - $50 (junkyard)
FAL electric fans - $250.00 (anywhere)
Z32 Fuel Filter - $10 (anywhere)
nismo shift knob - $40 (dealer)
shifter trim - $55 (dealer)
oil + filter - $45 (anywhere)
gear oil - $30 (anywhere)
coolant - $10 (anywhere)
Spark plugs x6 - $10 (anywhere)
new oil pan - $150 (dealer or someone that deals with RB's)

thats a total of $2818, so around 3k ON TOP OF THE MOTOR is what you should expect to spend on this swap, thats doing all the work except the wiring yourself, you guys can figure out what you need or dont

i think thats about it for now, anymore questions pm me or reply here

henry

[TopClassGarage]

mount kit - $1,000.00 (syko performance)

This would be the choice over brands such as TopHat and Mcken?

Thanks

[NemeGuero]

McKinney will charge you significantly more, and also Syko performance is headed by a well respected member here on Zilvia.. so YES.

[kouki_s14]

here's my update for today
i had some help today so i went on to pull the motor, its weird how the camera flash made the exhaust manifold look red hot
http://tinypic.com/il8z6q.jpg
then bam it disappeared!
http://tinypic.com/il8z8n.jpg
and here it is torn from its home
http://tinypic.com/il8zdh.jpg
after that was done i decided to go on removing the crossmember but on the last bolt that connects the LCA to the crossmember this happened
http://tinypic.com/il8zms.jpg
the culprit :squint:
http://tinypic.com/il8znl.jpg
i was about to go pick up my friends air tools but it was somewhat late and i did not want to wake my sister so once again its getting put off until tomorrow

although i do not have experience with the other companies mount kits i would have to put syko performance first because its been tested and retested and it does not use welded brackets and such for mounting the motor. the kit utilizes the RB crossmember just with some custom mounts so the engine sits in the ideal position. i have seen the mounts in person and i will post pictures of how it sits when the motor is in there. included in the kit is a downpipe, which you may need, and having one of this quality will easily cost you $200+
ALSO syko performance's customer service is BY FAR the best i have EVER dealt with. Dave and Gary are willing to help in many ways other companies would never even consider. i call and i IM them and they dont ever mind. i ask millions of questions, ask drift freaq. i bug him all the time. hell he even bought me some food when i went to give him my harness to wire up. now thats a group of nice guys to deal with!
thank you dave and gary for all your help so far and in the future!

thats about it for now

henry

[qwk]

nastiness deleted, user banned.

[MELLO*SOS]

Keep the RB INSTALL PICS COMING and any tips for those of us with upcoming RB installs to watch out for. :bow:

[kouki_s14]

um MODERATORS please delete that post above!!

[qwk]

hello...
nastiness deleted, user banned.

[lucky7]

i had a dream last night about putting my RB on a motorcycle.. weird. it was crazy.

[kouki_s14]

thanks for deleting all the disturbing posts, here and in the other threads


henry

[kouki_s14]

so today was the day the motor was ready to be dropped in place
before all that i got the 240 crossmember off and the R33 xmember on
attached the LCA, rack and pinion, all that good stuff
then i finally got to use some NEW stuff, i put on the motor mounts from syko
http://tinypic.com/im8k78.jpg
after that was ready i moved all hoses/lines as far to the side as possible to give the motor clearance and to make sure i would not crush anything
o yea i also put in the Z32 fuel filter
also i drilled holes to place the clutch master cylinder, i put the clutch pedal in also but i still have to work on puttin the brake pedal in, but thats not too important
the begining...
http://tinypic.com/im8ku1.jpg
then halfway through that i realize that i needed more clearance :duh: so i quickly pulled the radiator out then it began again
http://tinypic.com/im8mm9.jpg
after hours or who knows how long of moving motor up down, jack on tranny up and down, AND moving the front and rear of the car up and down i finally got it squeezed in. i also had to take off the lower pully to help with my clearance issues, without those in the way my job would have been a lot easier, its up to you guys if anyone else wants to go through the hassle of taking those pieces off. for me the lower (A/C one i believe i dont remember) was enough for me to clear my mistake was i did not position the chain at the ideal position for the angle of the motor and tranny to slide in, so it took some work to make it fit but it finally did
http://tinypic.com/im8n01.jpg
in that picture the motor is not yet in the mounts, its still held up by the hoist
after 20-30 minutes i finally got the motor to slide into the mounts and it sits very nicely. seems like it is WAY lower than the KA
http://tinypic.com/im8nzs.jpg
http://tinypic.com/im8pzn.jpg
i would have taken more pictures but my camera ran out of batteries plus it was late, the tranny was not bolted up yet (sitting on 3 ton jack), i would have to lower the car to take true shots of how the engine sits n all that, so i called it a night at about 2-3AM, the hard part is done, now its time for the little things, driveshft, shifter, finish pedals, hook up the hoses, fuel pump etc
i should get the harness back from syko soon and once the intercooler piping is done it will be ready to fire up! im so happy yet so sore and tired now, whew that was a longggg night

on a side note, this took me hours to do (with help), all the stuff like the xmember i took about the entire day, but with some breaks, but unless u have about 10 hours of free time dont try it just yet

more updates to come....

henry

[hybrid_eg]

henry great info!! keep the pictures coming, i think this will turn out to be a very useful thread for many peeps out here, and yes big props to Syko Perf. simply the best!!

[NemeGuero]

Patience!! Don't rush it.. that's how I make all my mistakes.

Looks good, probably feels good too.

[kouki_s14]

after everything is completed i will add helpful pointers, problems you might run into and such for others doing their swap in the future. i might forget a lot of things but sn aim is there and you can always pm for info i will try to help the best i can

[MELLO*SOS]

Good info on the AC pulley clearance probs

Keep the pics coming!

[kouki_s14]

Patience!! Don't rush it.. that's how I make all my mistakes.

Looks good, probably feels good too.

does seem like im rushin it huh?
but im not, im taking my time, it's just that i am on winter break so mon-thurs i have nothing to do but work on it, i have friends helping
in my head im going 5 steps ahead of what i have to do before i start anything new
after investing so much i dont wanna make ANY mistakes and so far its going real well, thanks for the concern and yes it feels GREAT! :D

[candyred240sx]

good info on the swap and the pictures.i want to put the Rb25det in my hatch but i just did the sr20det this year so im low on funds myabe next year.but swap looks like its goin well keep up the good work.after your done this should def be reposted in Archive and FAQs.

[rossfashow]

dude, mad props on that rb install.

[TopClassGarage]

Nice looking, keep taking your time, Soon my devil will have started her rb25 heart transplant soon. So keep the comments coming. :rofl:

[Y3llowS14]

Why didnt you put the motor in from the bottom? I find it much easier that way.

[TopClassGarage]

I think the best way to put it in is after removing your Raditor support, but pop weilds arnt freindly.....:hahano:

[luckyrb13]

You could always set the motor on the x member drag it under neath the car that is jacked very highup and then pull the motor up with the cherry picker i think it would make it much easier at least iam gonna give it a shot. Oh yeah dave and gary or cool as hell i alos purchased the skyo mount kit and it is awesome. They r defineitly quality products. YOu can tell they did their homework.

[Y3llowS14]

You could always set the motor on the x member drag it under neath the car that is jacked very highup and then pull the motor up with the cherry picker i think it would make it much easier at least iam gonna give it a shot. Oh yeah dave and gary or cool as hell i alos purchased the skyo mount kit and it is awesome. They r defineitly quality products. YOu can tell they did their homework.

Thats exactly what I just said, but in one sentence :)

[luckyrb13]

I dont know ho wi missed you r bost yellow . Guess iam going blind form all that:wackit: but yeah what he said. Hey do you still have that turbo setup for sale. I emailed you but got no response.

[drift freaq]

keep up the good work Henry!! I am totally impressed by how fast your progressing. oh ya and thanks for the props Danny and whoever else propped Syko a product totally worth standing behind and being involved with.

[SRd240sx]

nice!

btw, is your car painted semi-gloss black or is it me?

[S13 Charlie]

Lookin' good man! go go go ! good luck.:hug:

[IMPerfection]

Holy shit, those Syko mounts DO set the engine low. Anyone happen to have any numbers about the change in center of gravity from this swap with the syko mounts? The install is coming great, looks killer.

[s13silvia03]

looks good so far, good luck with it

[ESone3]

looks great, aways wanted to do this swap.

[hybrid_eg]

Holy shit, those Syko mounts DO set the engine low. Anyone happen to have any numbers about the change in center of gravity from this swap with the syko mounts? The install is coming great, looks killer.

dood, the motor sits perfectly! i've seen it in person, rode in the car, looked at every little detail closely, simply their product could not have been any better! customer service is unbeatable, both Dave and Gary are great people! This is the only right way to put an RB25 in your car :)

[Revolver Ocelot]

dood, the motor sits perfectly! i've seen it in person, rode in the car, looked at every little detail closely, simply their product could not have been any better!
So the car is running already?

[drift freaq]

So the car is running already?
He is talking about my S13 Fastback. hybrid came by one day and checked it out. My S13 runs I am just upgrading my intercooler and prototyping piping for it. I am also adding a second pusher fan on the front due to fact that I am running air.

[Destructo]

i got a quick question, its a little side one. With Syko's Mounts do you think you can fit a strut bar on it, or will it hit the throttle pulley? just curious.

[hybrid_eg]

He is talking about my S13 Fastback. hybrid came by one day and checked it out. My S13 runs I am just upgrading my intercooler and prototyping piping for it. I am also adding a second pusher fan on the front due to fact that I am running air.

whats up DAVE!!! yep sorry for not clarifying my post earlier, lol.. what i wanted to get across is that Syko mounts are simply bad ASS! anyone even thinking of going RB has got to have these :)

[drift freaq]

i got a quick question, its a little side one. With Syko's Mounts do you think you can fit a strut bar on it, or will it hit the throttle pulley? just curious.
you will have plenty of room for a strut brace if your using the Greddy intake manifold. We will see shortly with Henry's car with the stock manifold . Well I said earlier I thought it might clear but on closer inspection of henrys car it will most likely not with the stock manifold.

[kouki_s14]

well i havnt updated my progress in awhile, been tired and working on it a lot and i have been too tired to upload and post, but here my progress for the last few days

i got the downpipe on, bolted up the driveshaft, bolted the tranny in, finished the clutch pedal
i was going to put in a brake pedal but after i really looked at what needed to be done i decided not to. believe me its not worth the trouble, just cut your stock pedal, JUST TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, dont even try it's a waste of time.
here are some pics on how the engine sits
http://tinypic.com/ioq9kz.jpg
http://tinypic.com/ioq9me.jpg
here how the shifter sits, i took it at a bad angle, but it sits pretty centered, its off by very little and i can adjust the mounts to center it more but im fine with the way it is, its just me being lazy
http://tinypic.com/ioq9sh.jpg
my original plan was to buy FAL dual fans but i came across some fluidyne electric fans for cheap so i bought two of em and since they are not as thin as the FAL, i had clearance issues with the motor. these fans however lets you change them from puller to pusher by popping out a pin and flipping the fan. so i change both to pushers and mounted it in the front. it was a tight squeeze but it fit
http://tinypic.com/ioqh6f.jpg

gary finished my harness and came down with dave to help me with little things, he needed to solder some wires inside the car and told me a few things about the harness
then i asked him what i was supposed to do about the throttle cable since it doesnt fit, heres a little write up on it since he wanted to document how to do it also

first take out the two 10 mm bolts from the inside, then the plastic bracket from the engine bay and pull the entire cable out, also pick up some of these cable clamps/stoppers from home depot or something( gary brought some for me, thanks!)
http://tinypic.com/ioqclh.jpg
then you want a clean cut on the cable to seperate it from the stock clamp/stopper so use a dremel or something that will cut it cleanly, be careful and hold it down with a clamp or something just incase
http://tinypic.com/ioqd6p.jpg
hopefully you got a clean cut like so
http://tinypic.com/ioqdd3.jpg
then pull the cable out from the bracket, just force it, it will come out
http://tinypic.com/ioqdfb.jpg
afterwards cut the rubber tube(plastic and metal inside so use something strong) DO NOT CUT THE THROTTLE CABLE
http://tinypic.com/ioqm44.jpg
we cut it somewhat short because we were not sure on how much to cut at first so we did like 3-4 cuts to make sure we have the proper length
here is an after picture of how long the cable should be if you pull it all the way to one side, give or take 1/4 inch it might vary on S13 but i doubt it
http://tinypic.com/ioqfpt.jpg
http://tinypic.com/ioqfq9.jpg
then make sure you put the insulators and stuff back in the correct order, gary decided to put a washer there to space it out a bit more
but heres how it should look when you have the clamp/stopper on there
http://tinypic.com/ioqjww.jpg
then just put everything back the way you found it
the cable wont route around the engine bay like it used to but it will work just fine, hope this helps some of you, dont thank me, thank gary, because hes the one who told me how to do it and did most of the work, i just followed his instructions

i didnt have a camera for a day so i didn snap picturse of the downpipe or driveshaft, but its not a big deal and you guys could probably care less if i posted those pictures or not, but yeah thats about it

things left to do:
attached all the hoses and misc. stuff
fill the car with fluids
plug in the harness
mount intercooler
get piping made
few other things i cant remember right now
then FIRE IT UP and test drive....

also about the strut brace, i highly doubt it will clear the hood, i dont have one so its not a problem for me, if i were to get one, maybe notch the hood it may fit im not sure since i dont have the hood bolted on right now
once the hood is on and the car is running i will try and see how much actually clearance there is with some puddy or something

forgive the grammer im exhausted from work (both my job and working on the car) after about a week straight of working on it im finally feeling the exhaustion

thats it for now, but still more to come

henry

[SimpleS14]

I haven't heard of this throttle cable issue before. Exactly what was the problem you were experiencing? After reading this thread and looking at the pics, I'm confident I can do a RB25 swap. Last question (for now)....those the RB use the same size oil filter as the KA?

[NemeGuero]

This should probably be sticked when its all finished up.

[aznpoopy]

This should probably be sticked when its all finished up.

+1

great thread! :)

[drift freaq]

I haven't heard of this throttle cable issue before. Exactly what was the problem you were experiencing? After reading this thread and looking at the pics, I'm confident I can do a RB25 swap. Last question (for now)....those the RB use the same size oil filter as the KA?
The reason for this is the inner cable is to short, relative to the outer housing for this application. When you extend the inner cable to attach to the throttle body pulley it comes up short.

[kouki_s14]

I haven't heard of this throttle cable issue before. Exactly what was the problem you were experiencing? After reading this thread and looking at the pics, I'm confident I can do a RB25 swap. Last question (for now)....those the RB use the same size oil filter as the KA?

you will see what we are talking about once the motor is set in there
and YES the RB uses the same oil filter as the KA, which is also the same filter as the Z32 and probably a few others too

henry

[s13silvia03]

looks good so far man

[SimpleS14]

The reason for this is the inner cable is to short, relative to the outer housing for this application. When you extend the inner cable to attach to the throttle body pulley it comes up short.


So this is a mod everyone must do when going thru this swap? j/w because its the first I've heard about this (as I said before)

[Destructo]

Ya your motor, sits nearly identical to mine. A strut Bar will smack on the pullie for the throttle. The stock intake manifold on 25's/20's suck balls. and the adapters for gtr manifold are to expensive.

[kouki_s14]

So this is a mod everyone must do when going thru this swap? j/w because its the first I've heard about this (as I said before)

as far as i know yes it is a mod you must do.
you really shouldnt worry about it too much, since i have the measurements for you here it will take 20-30mins max.
people probably have not mentioned it since it wasnt exactly a huge mod and not that difficult if you know what to do and since its written out here it should be even easier.

henry

[ManoNegra]

i was going to put in a brake pedal but after i really looked at what needed to be done i decided not to. believe me its not worth the trouble, just cut your stock pedal, JUST TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, dont even try it's a waste of time.

I did this when I did an SR swap and 5-speed conversion on my old 95. I found that the cut pedal felt too awkward and close to the clutch pedal. It was driving me nuts so I picked up a brake pedal at the junk yard. Installation was a PITA but I'm happy now.
-Juan

[NemeGuero]

i was going to put in a brake pedal but after i really looked at what needed to be done i decided not to. believe me its not worth the trouble, just cut your stock pedal, JUST TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, dont even try it's a waste of time.

I did this when I did an SR swap and 5-speed conversion on my old 95. I found that the cut pedal felt too awkward and close to the clutch pedal. It was driving me nuts so I picked up a brake pedal at the junk yard. Installation was a PITA but I'm happy now.
-Juan

That's because you cut it wrong. I cut mine and has perfect spacing. However, out of anal retentiveness.. I'm going to put in a manual pedal.

[rossfashow]

i am jealous

[YakuzaS14]

are u gonna put a thermo switch for those fans or just a regular switch? just wondering.

[Ian]

Awesome! Finally someone documents their RB swap.

It seems like everyone and their brother's baby momma's got an RB swapped nowadays, but nobody has documented their swap. That's why you haven't heard about the throttle cable issue George!

[kings_blend]

nice work

[ManoNegra]

That's because you cut it wrong. I cut mine and has perfect spacing. However, out of anal retentiveness.. I'm going to put in a manual pedal.

Hmmmmm... perhaps. My brother thought is was just fine (it was his car before). But I daily drive about 80 miles per day and there's nothing like long commutes to magnify little irritating trivialities in a car.
-Juan

[kouki_s14]

well i took the weekend off as a break since i worked daily for over a week and was a bit worn out
there isnt exactly many more pictures i can post since it's really all little things left to do
i got the harness through and all plugged up, for the most part, i got a few plugs i cant quite figure out where they go yet
tomorrow im going to buy oil, coolant and all that stuff, plug up all the hoses then work on intercooler and source someone who can make me some piping for it
then just gotta piece back together my car and maybe get some engine cleaner and shine up the motor a bit if im bored
ill take pictures when its all done

henry

[andrewmp6]

starting to look like a car again as soon as you get it runing go supra hunting for me lol what company you get the rb from

[kouki_s14]

i got it from my uncle since he imports crates of motors

[chlatboy]

Drift Freaq, will you and Dave be able to come down and do the throttle cable thing for me when i get my swap done? Im still confused after reading the post Kouki made. Ill be getting ur kit soon as well. Just gotta wait for city inspection of my house. Dont want them looking into my garage and seeing a shell and a motor.

[SRd240sx]

nice!!

is it me, or does your car look really dull?

[drift freaq]

Drift Freaq, will you and Dave be able to come down and do the throttle cable thing for me when i get my swap done? Im still confused after reading the post Kouki made. Ill be getting ur kit soon as well. Just gotta wait for city inspection of my house. Dont want them looking into my garage and seeing a shell and a motor.
hahahhahha drift freaq is Dave, we will be happy to support you anyway that we can. On the other hand we do not have the time to help everyone in person. We helped henry because he was the documenting the installation and we have gotten to know him personally.
We can walk through it and clarfiy questions you might have about it, and we are around for tech support.

[kouki_s14]

well heres my update
lately i've been working a bit slower since i've been worn out and its all small tedious things left to do
but heres a major part of my car done
here i positioned the intercooler to about where i wanted it to sit
http://tinypic.com/izubzs.jpg
the size is a 24x9x3 if anyone was wondering
and it fit pretty dam well, i had to take my bumper support to get trimmed, but the trimming was very minimal
here are some pictures on what was cut
http://tinypic.com/izucdh.jpg
then it was welded all the way across to keep the structure of it
its ugly i know the welder didnt have a plasma cutter and used a torch, but hell it worked
http://tinypic.com/izucn6.jpg
and it jus squeezed in there perfectly
http://tinypic.com/izucus.jpg
gary (syko performance) came down again to help me with the piping he found some extra pieces of pipe and stuff he had laying around and picked some more up from his piping guy and amazingly we found enough pieces to fit together an entire kit. of course we needed to get some pieces cut and welded together but it work out perfectly considering i didnt have the tools to cut or weld, we got it marked and gary had it cut and welded from his people
http://tinypic.com/izud0m.jpg
while gary was gone cutting and welding i worked on cutting the holes
http://tinypic.com/izufra.jpg
i know its not the perfect holes but i did not have a big enough hole saw
i found some plastic dip spray at home depot that i painted the edges with
it is kind of a thick rubber compound made into a spray, it gave the edges a softer smoother feel to them so it would not cut into the piping and at the same time preventing rust
http://tinypic.com/izug55.jpg
that side went dead center of where the battery sat so now i gotta relocated the battery to the trunk, i guess it isnt a bad idea since this motor does weigh a bit more, more time and money i kind of did not want to spend now, but eh gotta do what i gotta do
finally measure everything up and got the intercooler mounted
i used a aluminum bar from home depot drilled some holes and ran it across the ic, heres how it looks
http://tinypic.com/izugep.jpg
then with the support on, this is really where you can see the uglyness in the cutting and welding, but im not perfectioness, it works thats all the matters to me and you cant see it much with the bumper skin on
http://tinypic.com/izul42.jpg
then i fitted on the bumper support and the bumper skin to see how it looked and how it fit
http://tinypic.com/izuiy8.jpg
pretty clean but i wanted a more sleeper and less cop attracting look so i made some marks and did this
http://tinypic.com/izuib5.jpg
its not gonna have any real impact on the cooling since only the face is painted, lightly might i add, and the inner fins will still be doing it job with paint free surfaces
heres it is with the bumper support
heres how it looks with the bumper on
http://tinypic.com/izukw4.jpg

i did a few more things after that but nothing really worth taking pictures of
now i gotta install the fuel pump, relocate battery buy new longer fuel hoses, wire fans, clean intercooler piping, fill fluids, and prolly few others things im missing and then cross my fingers as i turn the key

hahahhahha drift freaq is Dave, we will be happy to support you anyway that we can. On the other hand we do not have the time to help everyone in person. We helped henry because he was the documenting the installation and we have gotten to know him personally.
We can walk through it and clarfiy questions you might have about it, and we are around for tech support.

i really appreciate both of them coming out to help me, i admit im lucky
ONLY if you buy the syko kit i can try and swing by people's houses and help gary and dave's customers out, if you dont buy the syko kit feel free to ask me for help, but i wont have the motivation to go out of my way to help you since you didnt buy this great kit! haha, just one way of showing my appreciation

im almost there, maybe ill post pictures of the battery relocation, but most likely my next post here in this thread will be starting up the beast!

not much more to come

thanks for looking!

henry

[chlatboy]

Ill give you a heads up Henry. And yes i will be buying a Syko kit from Drift Freaq. I mite be taking a while on it since of housing inspections crap. But yea, how much did all the intercooler and piping costs?

[NemeGuero]

What kinda paint did you use on your intercooler?

[Shawn_of_the_Dead]

very nice, I wish I would have had the money to go RB, but the SR suits me just fine for my needs. Excellent info though...very nice!!

[kouki_s14]

Ill give you a heads up Henry. And yes i will be buying a Syko kit from Drift Freaq. I mite be taking a while on it since of housing inspections crap. But yea, how much did all the intercooler and piping costs?

paid 200 for the core
around 200 for piping, hoses, welds all that stuff ( not including what i paid Gary (syko performance) for the help

What kinda paint did you use on your intercooler?

duplicolor high heat stuff, engine enamel i think, it has ceramic material in it to help the heat dissipation

thanks for all the nice comments

henry

[Tenchuu]

very nice, I wish I would have had the money to go RB, but the SR suits me just fine for my needs. Excellent info though...very nice!!
I did some looking and RB25 front clips go for about 2500 not that mutch more than a SR setup. figure in SR nismo mounts, an upgraded elbow, downpipe, and a new driveshaft and the 1K for the RB install kit is quite reasonable. it seems woth the extra couple hundred to go RB to me. but i suppose if your already gone SR it would be harder to justify. that and maintence of 6 cylenders/plugs/wires/little harder to get parts will add up over time.

[OdessaS13]

very nice work. loving the whole sleeper aproach.
A+ for documentation and +1 for sticking this after everything is done
dave is a hella coo guy. brought me a fender for hella cheap
when he came down from LA about a month or two ago
and even though i still have the syko KA mounts laying aorund
cant wait to put them in (lazy a fudge)
you can tell alot about the product by the customer service
good luck when u "turn the key"

[NemeGuero]

paid 200 for the core
around 200 for piping, hoses, welds all that stuff ( not including what i paid Gary (syko performance) for the help



duplicolor high heat stuff, engine enamel i think, it has ceramic material in it to help the heat dissipation

thanks for all the nice comments

henry

Why did you not use a radiator paint?

[kouki_s14]

Why did you not use a radiator paint?

couldnt find it, plus this stuff has ceramic in it and says its good for heat dissipation so i didnt think it would be too bad, so i winged it

henry

[angrychickens]

:O i have the same hamster cage u do ! :aw:

[mbmbmb23]

Please post some vids/mp3s when you finally get it running.

[kouki_s14]

Please post some vids/mp3s when you finally get it running.

IT'S RUNNING!
dam is it loud, i need a cat on there with maybe another resonator
it sounds soo evil, the turbo is quite loud along with the bov its scary
havnt really had the chance to test the handling and such
stupid me forgot to take a picture of how it sat before i raised the coilovers
the atmospheric bov is making the car die when the revs are dropped quickly, which is extremely annoying
it revs really fast too and since the flywheel is lighten it drops fast so it dies alot
i had a really long day getting all the little nicks out so im dead tired
heres a pic of how it sits now
http://tinypic.com/j81atj.jpg
it feels like a totally different car and since the clutch is so stiff it was so it was somewhat hard for me to drive, just didnt feel like my car anymore

i dont know how to host videos or mp3 of it so whenever someone is willing to help me with that i will post those

i dont have the energy to type anymore

no more updates, just replies and possible videos

thanks again for all the nice comments

thanks for everyone that helped me (steven, rommel, brian, etc) , thanks to Gary and Dave (syko performance) for all their help, best company ever!
i could not have done it without any of you guys
THANK YOU SO MUCH

henry

[originalsin]

may want to look into running a blow by setup (putting the maf inline on the coldpipe at least liek 10in from the tb) so u can vent the bov w/o probs

[NemeGuero]

Sick man! You can send me the files and I can upload them to my server if you want.

[email protected]

Evan

[Caps Lock]

I'm curious to how it sounds!

[kouki_s14]

Sick man! You can send me the files and I can upload them to my server if you want.

[email protected]

Evan

o cool ill send files tomorrow, i didnt take any videos today
ill get videos tomorrow to send to you


thanks

henry

[andrewmp6]

http://putfile.com/ will let you upload videos or even streetfire.net and for pics http://photobucket.com/ or sign up on yahoo and make a photo album

[kouki_s14]

http://putfile.com/ will let you upload videos or even streetfire.net and for pics http://photobucket.com/ or sign up on yahoo and make a photo album

cool thanks for the sites
putfile didnt work for me, dont know why but it just had errors
streetfire worked so thanks a lot

i got ahold of a stock BOV thanks again to Gary (syko performance) so the problem of the car dieing is gone, runs real smooth, took it on the freeway for a bit, no problems, Gary drove it and was impressed on how well it pulls
looks like the motor is in really good condition
the fact that it was tuned by Mines might have something to do with it
its really fun to drive, even Gary seemed like he was having a great time with it

anyways heres the video i promised
http://videos.streetfire.net/player.aspx?fileid=39B800CA-45F4-4C8E-8116-D5A7F0DC9A46
sorry for the crappy quality and stuff, i didnt want to do blowby videos at night, if im bored tomorrow or some other day ill post more videos, but i hope this satisfies some of you guys

thanks again for all the nice comments

henry

[aznpoopy]

congratulations man. it sounds mean. i had my volume + bass turned up and i think i woke up the neighbors next door with your video. :P

[NemeGuero]

That shit sounds killer!!

[nissantuner22]

congrats on the swap bro! It seems everyone does swaps in the winter. Great work, I'm sure a lot of people will use this thread in the future.

[AutoKA24DE]

congrats, it shows that you did a lot of hard work.

nice work on breaking the harbor freight ratchet. i cant imagine doing a swap like that without airtools. mucho kudos to you. :bigok:

[kouki_s14]

thanks i hope you guys liked the video
now i really know why Dave (syko performance) said he wanted to shift up while in 5th gear on the freeway
i was cruising at 70 and some cars passed me pretty quickly so i sped up just to see how it would pull on something passing me while i was in 5th gear (second time on the freeway with the car, first time giving it some gas on the freeway tho)
all i can say is DAM, it pulled up to 90 like nothing and i wasnt even giving it full throttle, maybe like 60-75%
i couldnt stop smiling afterwards
well i guess this thread isnt going to last much longer, just wanted to share some thoughts on the power

thanks again for all the nice comments
also anyone doing the swap feel free to pm or hit me up on aim if you have any questions i will do my best to help you out with the things i learned doing the swap

henry

[andrewmp6]

sounds good just think what it will do with some work done to it

[Tenchuu]

that does it. i need one now.

[drift freaq]

Thanks for the compliments Henry, I think this thread is worthy of the faq section, for the sake of the detail you put into the pics of your install.

[kouki_s14]

Thanks for the compliments Henry, I think this thread is worthy of the faq section, for the sake of the detail you put into the pics of your install.

hmmm
i think the only real details i posted was the throttle cable mod
everything seemed like a take off/out then replace kind of thing

heres a bunch of info some people might find helpful tho

i had no hood clearance problems whatsoever
i thought i might since the IC piping sat kind of high, but its fine


i kind of mickey moused my power steering. i bought about 10-12 feet of 5/16 hoses and ran them straight to the factory tranny cooler, since i could not use the metal loop on the KA crossmember(if you dont know what this is you will when you take out your KA, RB xmember had one but its RHD so thats useless) i zip tied it to placed so it would not get in the way of the pullys. if you want to look clean and professional then you can get a small cooler and hook up the lines to those.
the fuel lines also need to be lengthen, i bought about 5 feet of fuel injector hoses (expensive stuff), YOU NEED the high pressure lines, dont be cheap and risk a leak of fuel
i didnt end up using 5 feet just about 4 was enough
i am 99% sure the top fuel line on the RB motor is return and the bottom one is feed
my two fans up front seem to be doing the job quite well, im not too sure how it will hold up once the socal summer heat hits (im keeping my ac and since the fans are blowing through that first my AC is going to be VERY cold haha so good for summer) but i will see. since its winter now its been fine. with my intercooler piping the way it is i cannot run a FAL puller (note- you cannot run a dual since there is only enough clearance on the passenger side for a fan) Gary(syko performance) helped me out with wiring the fans to turn on with the fuel pump, thanks again. if you take of the AC and notch the radiator support you can push the radiator back for clearance for puller fans
Gary did this on his first RB S14 few year back
umm the stock rack and pinion bolt right up to the R33 xmember
when bolting on the driveshaft USE WRENCHES, well you kind of have to with the driveshaft but for the output shafts on the diff dont use rachets, they flex too much and the bolts came loose on my friends car and it got caught on his ebrake line and yea alot of other not so pretty stuff happened, luckily he didnt crash
the amount of oil i used in the tranny was 3 quarts of 75w-90 royal purple
and 5 quarts in the motor, remember i changed the oil pan so my engine was completly dry, so if you do not change the oil pan then you may need less, but just use the dipstick to be certain
the stock radiator hoses from the RB hooked up to my radiator
the lower hoses fit with no problems and no cutting
the upper one had to be cut on boths sides but it fit PERFECT now
the heater hoses also needed to be cut, not really sure how much here since i cut it like 20 times to get it to fit and its still not quite right, but it works
my tachometer is off now, i got scared when i hit 8k rpm which was prolly around 6000-6500
Gary(syko) informed me to use the KA water temp sensor so my gauge would not be off and read lower/higher then possibly overheat, so dont forget to do that, its a 2 minutes swap over, simple enough
the intercooler i used was a squeeze, if i had gotten a 24x12x3 then it probably would not have fit without complete removal or major cutting of the support, i havnt tried it but my money is on that it wont work

thats all i can really think of now
i have some blowby videos on my friends camera i will upload as soon as i get them

henry

[turbo2nr]

your car sounds evil.

i envy you

[Uniac]

wicked write up!

it sounds just like my 20, i'll never forget the first day i took my A31 for a ride...i had the same shit eater grin on my face. Pulled it off the trailer, reset the ecu, put some good gas in it. Popped the auto(yeah i know stupid A31's) in Drive and hammered th gas, i left a good 20feet of rubber infront of my house.

hope you enjoy it, you did a terrific job on the install!

[mmdb]

I love the way the car sounds. Great swap and info!

[OdessaS13]

holy shit that sounds meaaaannnnn!!! :w00t:

[S13 Charlie]

Kouki S14 - Where are you located? I'd like to check out your setup sometime, and hear the thing in person! That is, if you don't mind. I definitely have RB fever, and now all I need is the dough to carry it out. here's to hoping I have a decent tax return!

cheers,

C

[kouki_s14]

i live in rowland heights
i just started school so my schedule is pretty tight now
it will probably be more fun if a meet of some sort was set up
i dont wanna say yes to you and then have everyone around the area ask me too, it would take up too much time and gas for me
sorry, let me know when a bunch of you guys are going to a meet and ill try my best to make it

henry

[preveink]

slowly but surely lots of nice pics

[Nan Desu Ka?!]

+1 for adding a link to this thread in the RB FAQ Thread. Ill go do that now if its not locked.

:D good job man. sounds awsome.

[TopClassGarage]

henry, maybe sometime arrange a meet or something, I msg'd you about your old KA, I might neeed one, but i think its just an excuse to see your 240, I as well have a rb25 but im not far into it yet. I would like to see it and ask some questions if possable, I know some asian chick up in the heights area, so mabye ill go see her and then say Hi

Later-

Robby

[EDGERYDR]

PLEASE FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE, BUT I AM ABOUT TO DO MY SWAP OF AN RB25 INTO A 93 S13...ANY WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT??

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/191331

[ThatGuy]

PLEASE FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE, BUT I AM ABOUT TO DO MY SWAP OF AN RB25 INTO A 93 S13...ANY WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT??

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/191331

#1. Take the caps lock off before typing on Zilvia.net

#2. That poor car. :barf:

[EDGERYDR]

ok...point taken and respected...lemme start over.............i am looking for help in the aspet of this rb install...any type of help will be greatly appreciated.....

[ThatGuy]

Words of encouragement?

OK, Search around. There is an RB FAQ in Tech. This conversion has been done before, so your questions can probably be answered in that FAQ.

[Tenchuu]

ok...how about something helpful....you dont have to like the car...hense its your opinion...but learn to read...i asked for words of encouragment...not personal responses..it cant be helped that all your responses appear to be negative..i understand, I have been where you are... served as a Marine for 8yrs... it's hard knowing your away and your wife is still doing her thing!!......

NOW...... FOR ALL OTHERS... I am asking for HELPFUL information on the rb I am about to drop in the car..I am no professional and seek guidance so if there are HELPFUL ppl here feel free to get in touch... all critics and such..hey...you only give me fuel through your obvious stupudity

1. no personal attacks on zilvia. period.

2 search around, in the tech section ther is a whole FAQ on the RB.

3 iI would highly suggest looking around on RB sites, googleing and www.racebread has some good info if you dig deep enuff, but this install and the tech sections have some damn good info.

and That guy was right, after looking at your car domain site....... that poor car. wowwy wow wow wow that thing is ..... different. to each thier own. but that poor car.

[EDGERYDR]

thank you for your reply... your right to each their own...so i take your reply gracefully...as for the former..its not too cool to join a site you hear some really great things about and you get attacked out the gate so i had to show my teeth so to speak...but i'll play it cool form now on!...promise!

[ThatGuy]

I didn't attack you. I merely commented about your car. Don't post your vehicle on the internet if you can't handle comments. I'm not sure what you've heard about Zilvia, but we are indeed the best site out there. We have a large base of individuals with vast experience with the 240sx. We don't however have a large following for show cars. This does not mean I am asking you to leave, by any means. I'm simply stating, you need thicker skin to hang out in these parts.

Welcome to Zilvia.

[Loofee95SE]

this is a great site indeed, it is also a very cruel, and zilvian's a tough critics. we are just sharing our personal opinions on ur car. It is kindda away from what alot of the people here on Zilvia is trying to accomplish with their rides. if u read on it for a lil bit, u will find out for ur self. Mad probs anyway on ur hard labor that is being put into the car. no comment on my behalf. And also Edgerydr please try to keep ur personal information to a minimum ( hint) . C

to the original owner of the thread, ur swap is looking awesome, sorry to jack ur thread, but I think there is something that need to be cleared. C

[EDGERYDR]

Ok Gents....point taken and applied...however all I have heard about this site is the show following as far as cars built for show goes..I am attempting to build an all around platfom...with looks and significant speed...as i look around i am finding a lot of great info.. most that I dont understand but I will manage...as for the skin issue...trust I can take a rippin'...I just like to give as well as I get, nothing personal...it's your OPINION and you are thus entitled...no prob there that guy....besides if your still in ..I have nothin but love for you... err yut kill!! E5/0621/ 3/6 Lima Co

[ThatGuy]

E5/6326/VMMT-204
Zilvia Super Moderator

Kouki_s14, we need more pics and vids of the finished product. :D

[kouki_s14]

henry, maybe sometime arrange a meet or something, I msg'd you about your old KA, I might neeed one, but i think its just an excuse to see your 240, I as well have a rb25 but im not far into it yet. I would like to see it and ask some questions if possable, I know some asian chick up in the heights area, so mabye ill go see her and then say Hi

Later-

Robby

sorry im selling the KA to my friend since he needed a new motor (bought one that was blown) again i'd rather go to a meet to show my car to you folks on the forums, sorry i dont like letting the world know where i live on top of that i am back in school mon-fri and i work fri-sun, i will be dead tired everyday
i know 240s owners are some of the nicest people in the world, but sorry to say im not gonna drive out to meet random people from the forums so they can see my car. it's kind of weird if you ask me, but it was a big gathering with a bunch of people, i would be more than happy to come out if i have the energy and time. a one on one thing isnt really going to happen.
i will still keep my word on helping people with problem during their swap IF they use the SYKO PERFORMANCE mounts. Gary and Dave have been so great to me, this is the only way i can think of repaying them i will try my best to make time for Syko customers. all others doing their swap i have AIM, free feel to IM me and ask questions, if you are nearby and i have time i might try and swing by, but again i will be less motivated to come by if you're far and did not use the syko mounts


PLEASE FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE, BUT I AM ABOUT TO DO MY SWAP OF AN RB25 INTO A 93 S13...ANY WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT??

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/191331

i dont know what to say
it's not hard?
anything else i can say that would be helpful is probably already in this thread, if you got questions, just message me or something

E5/6326/VMMT-204
Zilvia Super Moderator

Kouki_s14, we need more pics and vids of the finished product. :D

SORRY ZILVIA SUPER MOD! forgive me

i am working on that, my friend that has the videos on his camera just had surgery and gets sore if he sits up for too long, which means he doesnt go on his computer much. i will try to get it asap, i would take new videos with my camera, but i didnt feel like wasting more gas (obviously you guys dont want to see the car cruise by at 25mph)
as for the pictures, what pictures do you want to see?

henry

[Nan Desu Ka?!]

PLEASE FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE, BUT I AM ABOUT TO DO MY SWAP OF AN RB25 INTO A 93 S13...ANY WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT??

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/191331

Did you read this thread at all? I posted a link to the RB FAQ for gods sake... please feel free to use the search button. type in "RB swap" and i have a hard time beliving you will not find at least 30 threads on the subject. IMO your car is ...well, its not my taste to put it lightly, but at least it will have a good heart (if you do indeed put the RB under the hood).

Enjoy your stay at Zilvia.

[kouki_s14]

well i got the videos from my friend
they arnt as good as i thought they would be, but it give you guys an idea
i had a larger resonator put on so its not as loud as it was in the first video, yes im trying my best to attract less cops
forgive my power steering noises, i had a loose clamp so it was slightly low on fluids and made noises, also my cousin was not used to the clutch so it took him awhile to find the spot
http://thumbs.streetfire.net/A5256CDD-5292-4288-9D85-2B4119ED8F83.jpg (http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=A5256CDD-5292-4288-9D85-2B4119ED8F83)Click here to see Video (http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=A5256CDD-5292-4288-9D85-2B4119ED8F83)
http://thumbs.streetfire.net/98DFAA88-F712-4F78-9DCD-EF6304C4091F.jpg (http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=98DFAA88-F712-4F78-9DCD-EF6304C4091F)Click here to see Video (http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=98DFAA88-F712-4F78-9DCD-EF6304C4091F)
the next time i feel like wasting some gas ill make some decent videos to post
let me know what pictures you guys wants of the car, i can do those with ease and no gas

henry

edit: videos seems to be messed up for some reason, its late now i will figure out the problem tomorrow

[andrewmp6]

PLEASE FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE, BUT I AM ABOUT TO DO MY SWAP OF AN RB25 INTO A 93 S13...ANY WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT??

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/191331
if thats your car youl need a big block to move it with the 300 pounds of fiberglass in it henry its nice to finaly see some one take the time to show how to do it with pics and answered some of the stupid qeustions

[NemeGuero]

The body work is DAMN good though. Kit, UGLY.. but good fuckin' body work.

And fix those links damnit! I wanna see the vidz!

[EDGERYDR]

hey...the glass isnt as heavy as you think it is...you'd actually be surprised...thank for the compliment about the work thou...Im not really expecting everyone to like what I am putting together... this works for me though, especially since I am doing all the work myself...so i come to you ...the masses and look to get educated on the inner workings, other than that...you like it you do if you dont... you dont

[kouki_s14]

updated and videos are now working, sorry again for the bad quailty and horrible camera work

henry

[kouki-gymkhana]

I know what you mean about the gas issue though. My RB25 s13 sucks it down so fast I swear I can actually see the gas gauge move when I lay into the boost. If I stay out of the boost and pussy foot it around town and on the highway, it gets way better mileage than my old KA.

BTW, nice vids. They do a good job of capturing how loud the spool is on the stock turbo!:wavey:

[Al_S14]

holy crap fist one is so so so very hot. love that 2nd gear chirp :) . sounds incredible too

[kouki_s14]

chirps into 3rd too :naughty: that clutch grabs like no other
then again i got skinny crap tires

[mmdb]

PLEASE FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE, BUT I AM ABOUT TO DO MY SWAP OF AN RB25 INTO A 93 S13...ANY WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT??

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/191331

Woah you're really handy with the composites and custom work. I like the work, looks good. I'm sure the RB swap will turn out fine.

[wtbs14]

wowo amazing

[SimpleS14]

Once again, very nice write-up. I will use this information when I do a RB25 swap. I think some of the post should be pruned out of this thread and archive this thread in the FAQ section.

[driftshot]

well , i have to say ... that once i was thinking about this ... and decided to give up the idea ...

now i can only say ... ... HOLY SHIT MAN ! that's so sexy , i can't give up on hope already !

you did it in a very timely manner . you should really look into making a DVD that displays it . sure , it'd be a ghetto DVD cuz you'd have to burn copies ... but i'm sure after all the times you said "syko" in your thread they'd be more than happy to host the DVD and let you sell it out of their store . i know for a fact i'd buy it ... even if i never did the swap . i'd watch the complications of it ... and learn my car (Zenki) !!!

-STAY ZENKI !

[kouki_s14]

haha im glad im encouraging more people to do this swap
i truly believe this is just as simple at a SR swap, maybe a few things are a bit tricky but after doing this swap, its so basic (i didnt do the wiring tho)
yes i did the swap quite quickly considering i had basic tools
i would have to say i put a good 150hrs into the swap
if i had worked even more on it each day, i would have gotten it done in less than 2 weeks for sure, AND if i didnt have to work on weekends, even less time
i cant exactly make a dvd since i didnt video tape any of the actually swapping, best i can do is offer help and pictures to the RB community
when i start on my cousins swap in summer i will record what i can

henry

[blk90s13]

welcome to the RB world

its fun from now on and beware traction is no longer avaliable




and to EDGERYDR dam that amount of work you put into that car ( not my taste ) but dam all this work i give you pros for trying

google the following for RB info

rb20det / skylines down under / race bread / nico / 240sx forums

if u need any help and if you have anyquestions i would be more than happy to help you

aim : blk90s13

[!Zar!]

Great work. Now after reading through your faq I feel secure in my abilities to swap a 25 over. I hope everything goes as fast as yours did. I plan on purchacing the syko kit next month. And be sure I'm going to bug yourself and Dave untill it's complete.

[sideview_180sx]

I need to commend you on the thoroughness of the thread> You provide a near pictorial guide for those incompetent on swapping an RB engine. Noth too mention you did forget a few things, but whose to blame you when almost anyone would ne overjoyed to drop in an RB. Congrats and take car of it.

[kouki_s14]

anything i missed feel free to post here and i will answer to the best of my abilities. thats goes to everyone, just post and i will answer or i will try and find the answer for you all

henry

[skiboard06]

great write up, it is threads like these that make forums what they are.

[drift freaq]

I think some of the post should be pruned out of this thread and archive this thread in the FAQ section.
I would agree with you simples14

[EDGERYDR]

Dave Got The Engine Finally, Looking To Get That Kit We Discussed!!

[EDGERYDR]

welcome to the RB world

its fun from now on and beware traction is no longer avaliable




and to EDGERYDR dam that amount of work you put into that car ( not my taste ) but dam all this work i give you pros for trying

google the following for RB info

rb20det / skylines down under / race bread / nico / 240sx forums

if u need any help and if you have anyquestions i would be more than happy to help you

aim : blk90s13


Thanks, I'll get in contact

[NemeGuero]

Don't post in this thread for stuff you want to buy. There is a whole Want To Buy section in the for sale forum.

[ThatGuy]

And for the second time, would you please take off the caps lock.

[SimpleS14]

Don't post in this thread for stuff you want to buy. There is a whole Want To Buy section in the for sale forum.


He should stop posting in this thread altogether IMO.

[EDGERYDR]

Don't post in this thread for stuff you want to buy. There is a whole Want To Buy section in the for sale forum.
No problem...this is still new to me...he made an offer and i responded.....

[G-reg]

great job

so now that the swap is finished, what are you gonna do next?

[kouki_s14]

great job

so now that the swap is finished, what are you gonna do next?

im planning to get some wheels so i can put down some more power along with a cusco 1.5, after that its a toss up, i dont really know
its prolly gonna be whatever comes up as a good deal

[<3MyRiceRocKet]

As for video taping, I'd like to see your 0-60 or even 0-100 mph with the video camera focusing on your tachometer and speedometer. Just want to see a rb25 rip up. Possible?:x:

[SYKORB26]

Hey EDGERYDR--I give ya props for all the work you have done to your car. People gotta understand building cars is about expressing your own style not just bolting on parts. And like (capital) p and ( capital) e says, "FIGHT THE POWER! (caplock on) BOOOOOOOOIIIIYYYYYY!" Sorry you are catching so much sht out here. Don't worry about the swap, Dave and I will be happy to help you out in any way possible. If you need any tech assistance, please go to my website @ www.SYKOPERFORMANCE.com and email me from there.
-Gary Narusawa
SYKO PERFORMANCE
Keepin it real from da o'l skool

[chlatboy]

I tried calling you Dave but i mite have gotten the wrong number. Was going to pick up the rb25det driveshaft kit. Ill give you a call maybe wed or thursday when i have time to get it.

[andrewmp6]

henry you might wanna think about z32 brakes or some kinda bigger ones since you swaped engines rest is up to you

[kouki_s14]

o i got the R33 gts-r (r32 GT-R) brakes with my clip, not sure if im going to resurface the rotors i got or buy new ones just yet, also need some SS lines for it, im waiting for some bigger wheels, the Z32 calipers seem to barely clear my stock SE's so i doubt the skyline brakes will clear
i've got plenty of plans lined up for this car

you guys just wait and see

henry

[andrewmp6]

the skyline ones use a thicker rotor then the z32 i believe so i doubt it my brake lines and turbo oil lines came from http://www.takamotorsports.com/home.htm after i finsh my suspeion and brakes ill get a rb for my s13 just part whoring for it tell then

[nrg]

ah. so your uncle owns winstar wrecking. I've beent here a few times, cool people. And you're right, many local shops do go to him ;)

Awesome swap btw, but you did left out a few small things. I'm mostly interested in the wiring job. I know you got a shop to do it, but do you think you can post those information? If you can't, I understand. Shops need to make money hah.

[kouki_s14]

ah. so your uncle owns winstar wrecking. I've beent here a few times, cool people. And you're right, many local shops do go to him ;)

Awesome swap btw, but you did left out a few small things. I'm mostly interested in the wiring job. I know you got a shop to do it, but do you think you can post those information? If you can't, I understand. Shops need to make money hah.

i dunno what i can post, i didnt exactly strip down the harness and see how everything is wired up. all i did was give Gary and Dave (syko performance) the 2 engine harnesses and a few days later i got it back as one harness, then i plugged it in. thats pretty much all i did with the wires

henry

[hipro]

Food for thought... over the last couple of days, I pinned out every wire from the ECU connector and labeled every plug on the RB20DET (manual tranny). What I didn't realize was that you actually DO NOT need to extend the MAF and O2 sensor wires. I previously had always searched to find the right shielded wire and meticulously spliced the wires to gain the extra length that I thought was needed. When extending the wires, I carefully wrapped the shielding to reduce the EMI noise and degradation of signal, which is very time consuming. This last time I bit the bullet and separated all the wires. Guess what? If you separate the harness far enough back, you can actually “un-wind” enough wire to extend both the MAF and O2 sensor without butchering the wires! And, with the sensors connected, the ECU can actually be mounted in its stock location. I have previously done this for the SR but not for the RB.

You guys probably already knew this but I thought it might be worth repeating. So, if you have a plug and don’t know what it goes to, let me know – I have the info on paper but not yet electronically available to share. Thanks, Mike Browning, Sales Manager, www.hiprollc.com

[andrewmp6]

nrg im letting http://www.wiringspecialties.com/ do mine

[davenavarro1]

awesome build

[kouki_s14]

well my car has been running fine, no major problems yet, just clutch pedal issues, the adjustments fixed that quickly. no overheating with my fan setup, except the weather has been quite cold lately. i got a larger resonator put on my catback and i also threw on a silencer onto the HKS i got. i could really care less about backpressure issues, but i have heard that the silencer does not effect hp numbers in anyway, not much at least. my car is sooo quiet now, cops dont even turn their heads. the engine is ALOT louder than the exhaust even on WOT. its nice i miss having a quiet car.
as for my gas mileage its not looking too good, first 2 tanks i got 17-18mpg
then again i've been giving people rides, so not exactly slow driving, also a majority of my driving is stop and go, not too much freeway driving.
i hope when i do some minor tune up, spark plug wires, syntheic oil, all that good stuff my mpg might go up
just thought some of u guys would like to know the mileage on the rb in a s14
thats about it

henry

[andrewmp6]

glad to see your happy with it henry tune up and a good tuning youll easyly up the mpg id like to see the brakes when you get them done keep us updated

[Murdoc]

for some fucking reason i cannot see any video on streetfire. how does that shit work?

[kouki_s14]

dunno, maybe you need divx codec?
all the videos still work for me

henry

[AREITU]

I thought I was just mistaking the radiator for the AC condensor in those first few pics, but you say your AC works and blows cold. That's pretty cool, considering that there's quite a few people on here who'd love to have an RB and rock A/C, despite the weight penalty. And since Syko Performance did your wiring and you say it more or less plugs right in, I think I know where I'll go when I get an RB swap in.

Hows' the handling compared to the KA?

[kouki_s14]

i think you read wrong, my ac is NOT currently working.
yes syko performance did wire it for me to work, but i have yet to get freon lines customized and the system recharged. when i do get all that done it will blow very cold since i have 2 fans blowing directly on the ac condensor

the handling is fine, doesnt feel any different to me, but i have really yet push my car so i cant say for sure. i actually believe it will handle better since there more weight upfront and there was considerable understeer with the KA, but that could have been due to my tires or suspension. ill never really know now, but hell im happy with it

[SochBAT]

I tried calling you Dave but i mite have gotten the wrong number. Was going to pick up the rb25det driveshaft kit. Ill give you a call maybe wed or thursday when i have time to get it.

Sucks for us cuz we still gotta hide that freaking clip foo!

Tell your BF to bring his cherry picker, and maybe a pallet and pallet mover.

Lets dump it at the temple for a day.

PS. EDGERYDR, while your car isn't my style, im digging that DIY bodywork. Keep it up!

[Slidin240Wayz]

Hello sir,
First off congratulations on the swap. Second, the GTR calipers you have will clear the rims no problem. I have the same calipers with r32 gts-t rims = 240sx se rims (16x6.5, I am pretty sure they have the same offset). It clears, so go ahead and put those on. As for the rotors, they use a 296x32 or 30 mm rotor. I say resurface the ones you have or expect to pay 140 plus shipping EACH from courtesynissan. For ss lines, Kuah at SPLparts offers the cheapest conversion lines.

Carlos

[janko]

hey...the glass isnt as heavy as you think it is...you'd actually be surprised...thank for the compliment about the work thou...Im not really expecting everyone to like what I am putting together... this works for me though, especially since I am doing all the work myself...so i come to you ...the masses and look to get educated on the inner workings, other than that...you like it you do if you dont... you dont

Personally I am not a fan of what you've done with the car but what I can say is that you've got some talent. I only wish I could do that kind of fiberglass and body work. The work looks really good.

[kouki_s14]

Hello sir,
First off congratulations on the swap. Second, the GTR calipers you have will clear the rims no problem. I have the same calipers with r32 gts-t rims = 240sx se rims (16x6.5, I am pretty sure they have the same offset). It clears, so go ahead and put those on. As for the rotors, they use a 296x32 or 30 mm rotor. I say resurface the ones you have or expect to pay 140 plus shipping EACH from courtesynissan. For ss lines, Kuah at SPLparts offers the cheapest conversion lines.

Carlos

thanks for the nice comments.
i was thinking that it would fit, but i have wheels on order and should be in late march/early april. im in not real rush to put the brakes on, so i plan on waiting and doing it all at one time. i do want to resurface my rotors, but the slots might be a problem for some places. i just gotta look around. i will look into the SS lines thanks. also what pads are you using, i've read that the calipers use the same pads as the TT Z32, but it seems real odd to me that the rotors are bigger but the pads are the same size. seems like its just added weight if there isnt more pad to bite.

henry

[Slidin240Wayz]

Hey Henry,
Yes they use the same pads. I swapped the pads off my old z32 calipers onto the r32 ones. You can see the comparison on zilvia "r32 caliper comparison." The difference is the calipers get pushed out further from the hub reducing brake fade. As for the rotors, some shops might have a problem, but like I mentioned before, the rotors are expensive.

Carlos

[driftshot]

I saw my friend "speed_vision" looking in this thread too ... it appears that you've been catching more heads ... all the people i use to see and hear saying that they wanted to RB swap or stay KA are now RB'ing the shit outta themselves ... lol ...

hopefully the guys at Syko or Henry can stop by when "speed_vision" and myself do our swaps ...

[EDGERYDR]

Personally I am not a fan of what you've done with the car but what I can say is that you've got some talent. I only wish I could do that kind of fiberglass and body work. The work looks really good.


I appreciate your open-minded approach, as for the work...it's really nothing...doing what you guys do under the hood is twice as hard. all this takes is hand and eye coordination but under the hood takes a certain skill, but again , thank you.

[bimmerlover]

Great thread! I think I know what my next mod is going to be.. I suggest everyone saves this thread to your hard drive since the pics might become X's over time.

[kouki_s14]

Great thread! I think I know what my next mod is going to be.. I suggest everyone saves this thread to your hard drive since the pics might become X's over time.

thanks, i dont plan on leaving zilvia anytime soon, so if the pictures do go to X's i still have them all on my hard drive and any of you guys can IM me for help. and in a few months when i work on my cousins, ill try to take more detailed pictures. since imma be the lazy one and make him do most of the work :keke: his car, he should learn and it will make him feel more accomplished

Hey Henry,
Yes they use the same pads. I swapped the pads off my old z32 calipers onto the r32 ones. You can see the comparison on zilvia "r32 caliper comparison." The difference is the calipers get pushed out further from the hub reducing brake fade. As for the rotors, some shops might have a problem, but like I mentioned before, the rotors are expensive.

Carlos

cool thanks a lot for the info, yea i saw the thread, but i still didnt get why the pads were the same while the rotors were bigger, but i got it now thanks

I saw my friend "speed_vision" looking in this thread too ... it appears that you've been catching more heads ... all the people i use to see and hear saying that they wanted to RB swap or stay KA are now RB'ing the shit outta themselves ... lol ...

hopefully the guys at Syko or Henry can stop by when "speed_vision" and myself do our swaps ...

haha i noticed this thread got real popular, i didnt think it would be so big. nice to know more people are going RB, but that makes my car less "rare" so to say, haha o well. its a great motor but in the back of my mind i still want to own a SR and KAT powered car, but i would never give up my RB for either one. i'd be more than happy to help out with the swap if your local of course. i am still incredibly greatful to Gary and Dave at syko performance for all their help. they are great guys but honestly i hope no one is offended if they cant come out to help every individual, they are very busy people and i am very lucky for all the help they gave me. im sure if they have the time they would do the same for all of your guys, i dont want Gary and Dave to feel obligated to go to everyones homes to help because of my thread. if they cant make it out i will try my best to help their customers so i can somewhat repay my debt to them.

henry

[downshift_sideways]

yea man.. over all very nice job +1 rep , i would never have that much time on my hands. nice car nice engine nice thread. stay up man. and keep us posted

[walkerkd]

awesome job man! ive been looking into doing this too. but maybe out of mu budget.. havent bought another sr yet. now thinking about just getting the [email protected]! nice very nice

[brunswick240]

Vids wont work for me...

Nvm works fine now....youve done what ive always wanted to do, drop an rb25 into an s14 kouki, with a nice exhaust, coilovers to eliminate wheel drop, and a completely stock front end. Congrats on the swap, looks sick as hell, i know what mounts im using if i ever do it.

[95s14]

Thanks alot henry.....

I am now the pround owner of a new rb25 :}

swap is almost done MUahahahhahahahaha...

[kouki_s14]

haha brought the thread back from the dead
no problem man
anyone else who needs a clean front clip in SOCAL hit me up, sorry no shipping unless you arrange it
my uncles junkyard has quite a few RB and SR clips
whenever i got time i can take you guys to choose one out like i did with 95s14 and he seems to be real happy with it since he got a HKS GT2535 turbine with his clip
im not trying to sell clips here. my uncle never paid me, but he hooks me up with stuff so i dont complain. i make no money i just want to build the RB community so maybe more shops will stock RB parts and that way i can pick up stuff for cheaper. plus its to repay my uncle for the great deals he gives me
maybe sooner or later i will consider officially working for him since he has asked me to, but for now its just helping him and people on this forum out

henry

[95s14]

I could not be happier with my clip :} got me some new r33 breaks off the clip too :}

just wish my rims did not need spacers to fit them :{

[smokeybear]

kouki_s14, im def. thinking about this swap now. youll be the man ill go to for my clip. when i do the swap, would you mind checking out the clip for a fee?? (id pay to ensure i have a good clip, being on a tight budget sucks)

[TopClassGarage]

do you have any real indepth version of this or maybe even more pics, It would be awesome. I have been saving a rb clip here my zenki fourteen Lately people have been pushing me to put it in my S30, Z, but i dont think i will have as much fun with it as apposed to the S14 chassis.

[kouki_s14]

smokeybear - i pmed you


do you have any real indepth version of this or maybe even more pics, It would be awesome. I have been saving a rb clip here my zenki fourteen Lately people have been pushing me to put it in my S30, Z, but i dont think i will have as much fun with it as apposed to the S14 chassis.


i do not have many more pictures, but i can try to explain things to help in any way i can. you can pm me or hit me up on aim.

henry

[andrewmp6]

a lil tip if your gonna but a rb in a 240/260z get the rb20 oil pan and sump there a rear sump the rb25 is a front sump

[SYKORB26]

a lil tip if your gonna but a rb in a 240/260z get the rb20 oil pan and sump there a rear sump the rb25 is a front sump

Just to clarify, not all RB20 pans are rear sump. They came both ways...depends on what chassis the engine was used in.

[andrewmp6]

i know that just its the only pan that fits with a 240z unless you wanna make your own

[LA_phantom_240]

you said your uncle owns a place that imports front clips and such? Does he have a website?

Oh and as of now, i proclaim you godly. RB25 + S14 Kouki = sex^3

[kouki_s14]

sorry no website, he deals with locals only
PM me if you need anything else, this thread is a bit old to be bumping, but thanks for the nice comments

[1FAST91SR20]

#1. Take the caps lock off before typing on Zilvia.net

#2. That poor car. :barf:
WOW i feel bad for that 240sx it looks like a honda!!

[zoomswimmer]

Good job, I'm planning to do a RB swap sometime. This really helped.

[s13gold]

niicce job man...PROPS>

[240boosted]

hey kouki clear your pm box. but i post it here where you get your motor from and what intercooler is that i got a 91 240sx and i want to drop rb25 in it. Also what inter cooler piping are you using

[jdizzy204]

zombie thread...

please look at the dates of the last post before replying