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rossfashow
12-01-2005, 07:16 PM
So i was looking into turbo manifolds and was interested in the Silk Road Manilfold. what do you guys think? I dont want to spend a grand on hks and i dont want to go so cheap to MR or SS ebay. the Silk ROad one has reinforced welds and maybe i can get some coating on the manifold befor ei get it put on the sr. what do you guys think? not too expensive nor cheap? great?

thx

richardxfeng
12-01-2005, 08:36 PM
IMO,if you want performance,get a Full Race manifold.If you want to save money,just get the Megan one.Something between them is just waste of money.

hellion240sx
12-01-2005, 08:39 PM
i saw an ssa mahi on a 400-500 hp SR. or you can go for the greddy one. i don't think i have heard of any horro stories from that one

autoxgti983
12-01-2005, 08:44 PM
i had some shit bomb ebay type mani on my last SR and it worked great, best 50 bucks i spent, other than that one night outside of Reno....

rossfashow
12-01-2005, 08:55 PM
so i should just get the greddy race manifold?

but does anybody here know how the silk road ones put up? and what about DC sports?

nsn240
12-01-2005, 09:10 PM
yup, i know someone who ran 400rwhp on a ssa... reinforced, but still ssa

rossfashow
12-01-2005, 09:11 PM
http://www.rhombus-net.com/rhombus/nissan/rhombus.htm

thats an ssa mani

wootwoot
12-01-2005, 09:47 PM
so i should just get the greddy race manifold?

but does anybody here know how the silk road ones put up? and what about DC sports?

I think you should get the Full-Race bottom mount. 900 bucks and the last manifold for t2 flange you will ever need, literally. The ssa manifold according to a god of tuning is only slightly better than stock.

allblackS14
12-02-2005, 01:09 AM
I think you should get the Full-Race bottom mount. 900 bucks and the last manifold for t2 flange you will ever need, literally. The ssa manifold according to a god of tuning is only slightly better than stock.


Enthalpy said that? :eek2: I'd agree with it then, lol but I'm just a follower. I 2nd the Full Race vote, life-time warranty.

rossfashow
12-02-2005, 01:59 AM
ok..you guys now got me hooked on the hks full race mani. what other rull race mani's are there?

richardxfeng
12-02-2005, 02:31 AM
ok..you guys now got me hooked on the hks full race mani. what other rull race mani's are there?

I think you are totally mistaken here.

First of all,
Full Race is the shop who makes the Full Race manifold.
http://www.full-race.com
They are not made by HKS.

Second of all,Greddy doesn't sell exhaust manifold for SR separately.They only sell it with their turbo kit

rossfashow
12-02-2005, 02:55 AM
oh.. wow i was very mistaken. wow. that manifold looks nice.

cali240sxdrifter
12-02-2005, 06:21 AM
I think full race is the best out there. I seen both the S2000 mainfold, EVO, and SR... and its just imazing work, worth every penny... But I had a SSA on my SR, never cracked, never shown signs of cracking, it worked nicely. Plus I had it on my S14SR with a T28 (heavier than the T25). But its a hit and miss with products like that. I heard Megan's manifold is alot better, i would go with it.

cr00k_lyn
12-02-2005, 07:12 AM
Full Race all day.

wootwoot
12-02-2005, 09:45 AM
Enthalpy said that? :eek2: I'd agree with it then, lol but I'm just a follower. I 2nd the Full Race vote, life-time warranty.


nice guess :bow:

red_sir
12-02-2005, 03:16 PM
Personally, if I were to stick to a bottom mount manifold I would either A) keep the stocker and modify it for an external wastegate, or B) go full-race. Anything else is a little risky.

mr_240sx
12-02-2005, 03:56 PM
what the difference between the pro stock and pro race exhaust manifold from full-race??? is it that 1 is top mount and other is bottom mount?

NemeGuero
12-02-2005, 03:56 PM
If you got the money.. FULL-RACE +2349845

EchoOfSilence
12-02-2005, 04:00 PM
Jeez even the pro-stock manifold looks crazy. but if you're spending that much money for a manifold for your t25 you'd have enough money to just get the pro-street and get a bigger turbo.

*sigh* I wish i had money

rossfashow
12-02-2005, 04:16 PM
what about prostock with a gt2871r?

mr_240sx
12-02-2005, 04:22 PM
what about prostock with a gt2871r?
thats exactly the setup i plan on having installed come spring time.... :hyper:

rossfashow
12-02-2005, 04:53 PM
thats exactly the setup i plan on having installed come spring time.... :hyper:
me too!!! april! and then i dont know what intercooler i should go for, the greddy intercooler kit or a jonnyracer one.. hmmm...

EchoOfSilence
12-02-2005, 09:29 PM
why not the GT3071R-WG?

doesn't the gt2871r have less response than say the gt28rs or even the gt28r?

i never knew the big differences aside from their max power

fuck i need to stop thread-jacking

wootwoot
12-02-2005, 10:13 PM
gt3071r is not as "matched" as the gt2871r. The gt2871r .86 a/r is good for [email protected] 20-22psi.

rossfashow
12-03-2005, 12:35 AM
what about .64 a/r?

240_sx
12-03-2005, 01:25 AM
Anyone have this? S13/S14 SR20DET. Touge Factory polished stainless steel 3" downpipe w/flex section.

http://www.tougefactory.com/shop/images/195.jpg

I think it would lengthen the life of any manifold b/c of the flex pipe :D

mrmephistopheles
12-03-2005, 01:31 AM
Anyone have this? S13/S14 SR20DET. Touge Factory polished stainless steel 3" downpipe w/flex section.

http://www.tougefactory.com/shop/images/195.jpg

I think it would lengthen the life of any manifold b/c of the flex pipe :D


I have one sitting on my kitchen table.
Dunno about it being TF, but it looks the same.

codyace
12-03-2005, 07:24 PM
what about .64 a/r?

With the correct mods, I would venture to say 380whp at 20-21 psi



As far as manifolds are concerend, I'm actually going to get my stock exhaust manifold extrude honed, as well as my turbine housing. We've done this to quite a few FWD SR's with GTiR manifolds with fantastic success. It helps spool even faster and seems to free up some power (smoothest flow possible ya know?!?!) The extruded turbine puts it right over the top in terms of flow capabiltiies....

I think next fall I will save some spare cash for an MR manifold, install it and dyno it to see if there are any gains or lossess.

-usmd-180sx
12-04-2005, 03:45 PM
Full-Race ProStreet... :drool: :drool:

slideways2004
12-04-2005, 03:52 PM
Anyone have this? S13/S14 SR20DET. Touge Factory polished stainless steel 3" downpipe w/flex section.


I think it would lengthen the life of any manifold b/c of the flex pipe :D

that's what i was thinking. b/c of the flex pipe, the manifold can move w/o breaking the welds on cheap manifolds.

ThatGuy
12-04-2005, 03:59 PM
Full-Race for teh WiNn3R!!
ProStock
http://www.full-race.com/catalog/images/stock_local_wm_03.jpg
ProStreet
http://www.full-race.com/catalog/images/012.jpeg

Both of the SR Manifolds are HAWT!! But this KA Manifold is friggin sweeeeet! Hoping to get one of these for my KA-T project.
http://www.full-race.com/catalog/images/turbo_manifold_fullsize.jpg
:rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk:

NemeGuero
12-05-2005, 02:48 AM
Damn, if it weren't so expensive.. I would have gotten that KA mani too.. *droool*

hellion240sx
12-06-2005, 03:37 PM
well new entry in this battle http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=96052 the tomei mani

NemeGuero
12-06-2005, 03:56 PM
well new entry in this battle http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=96052 the tomei mani
Thats a joke right? Sorry but that mani isn't going to compete with full race.

bing
12-06-2005, 03:59 PM
if you dont get full race you might as well get the SSAC or ebay one.

i have one, ceramic coated it, working nicely.

its all install as far as cracking.

but yes, full race or bust.

hellion240sx
12-06-2005, 08:28 PM
no it's just to add to options of exhaust mani's

wootwoot
12-06-2005, 08:36 PM
and it does serve its purpose as a manifold. I strongly believe it would preform better than any Megan/SSAC manifold.

Happy240sx
01-18-2006, 03:04 PM
what about prostock with a gt2871r?
thats exactly the setup i plan on having installed come spring time.... :hyper:

Done it - works well :drool:

http://www.son240sx.ca/cpgallery/albums/userpics/11066/build%20017-600.jpg

KOUKI KA-T
01-18-2006, 03:34 PM
What about peakboost manifolds, been half-waiting to hear about people using them.
KA and SR Top mounts.

http://store.yahoo.com/cheapturbo/nissan.html

KiDyNomiTe
01-18-2006, 03:41 PM
Anyone have this? S13/S14 SR20DET. Touge Factory polished stainless steel 3" downpipe w/flex section.

http://www.tougefactory.com/shop/images/195.jpg

I think it would lengthen the life of any manifold b/c of the flex pipe :D
Its TF, kinda, everything is rebadged to some degree (well this isnt rebadged, just renamed)
And why would it lengthen anything. Its a simple cut and replace, not add.

I am gonna buy one soon since i fucked up my old one.

On the manifolds, I got one with my turbo, looks like every other manifold. It will probably crack, but in that case I'll buy another or or put my stock back on. Stock manifold isnt that bad.

nistech
01-18-2006, 04:30 PM
anyone had a bad experiance with a xo2racing manifolds....?

Dousan_PG
01-18-2006, 04:31 PM
im going full race
second choice, peak boost
third choice, stock

eyustfu
01-18-2006, 04:33 PM
i just got a peak boost manifold in, that thing is beefy and alot heavier than i would expect it to be.

kingsol
01-18-2006, 05:05 PM
Its TF, kinda, everything is rebadged to some degree (well this isnt rebadged, just renamed)
And why would it lengthen anything. Its a simple cut and replace, not add.

I am gonna buy one soon since i fucked up my old one.

On the manifolds, I got one with my turbo, looks like every other manifold. It will probably crack, but in that case I'll buy another or or put my stock back on. Stock manifold isnt that bad.

it's a megan racing downpipe... i don't know why it's called TF downpipe.

rossfashow
07-15-2006, 07:01 PM
I am still undecided with my mani options. I've decided to revive this thread that I started about a long time ago and still havent upgraded my mani due to certain issues. i.e. car, job, and etc. As of right now its either Peakboost turbo kit or fullrace prostock with upgrade turbo. I know full race is awesome and full race or bust but it seems like peak boost is beefy and sturdy. anyone have one? I'm leaning towards the fullrace but there a part of me that wants the peak boost. I guess I need more answers. thankyou. if you guys reply anytime soon, i wont be able to reply for about 2 weeks since i have to go to this army school called pre-ranger. then ranger school which is even longer. so ill try to come here as much as i can. thanks

koukispec
07-15-2006, 07:59 PM
so let me try and get this correct......its either get full race, or if u dont got the money, just stick to cheaper manifolds like MR, so its either go big, or go small, theres nothing in between? any1 got any thoughts on the tomei manifold?

rossfashow
07-15-2006, 08:22 PM
thats what they've basically been saying. it's said that tomei offers great products. if you want fast spool go for the tomei. if you want more power its full race. but i am stil debating if i should get the peak boost. it looks really nice and its shorter. great looking welds and looks almost like the full race pro street. both are also lifetime warranty

Dousan_PG
07-15-2006, 09:57 PM
jdm stuff is junk imo

full race is far superior.
go w/ it
i did
full race is rad
top mount, t3 flange, ext wastegate,...mm ordered it last month should be ready in about 2 weeks by now..heheheh cant wait!

rossfashow
07-15-2006, 10:03 PM
full race it is then! what size turbo you putting on dousan?

JVD
07-15-2006, 10:54 PM
Tomei=no external wastegate. The Full Race mani's are in a entirely different league. The Tomei looks interesting if you are running an internally gated turbo. I'm considering it paired with an S15 T28 for quick response.

JVD.

silverarrow27
07-15-2006, 11:22 PM
If it's a daily street driven car with internal gate, definitely Tomei hands down.

Dousan_PG
07-15-2006, 11:52 PM
my setup a Turbonetics t3/t4 ext wastegaste 44mm tial
should make a nice SOLID 350 easily w/ the rebuilt/upgrade motor setup
BUT its not a daily drive anymore. got 2 other cars to take that

maeda says
internal wastegate is a POS
turbo car = external waste
END OF SENTENCE.

(and i agree)

internal wastegate is a accountants decision!
external wasteage is a engineers decision
to save money

internatl is for shitty factory turbos
or garrett paperweights

internal wastegate its like buying the tv/vcr combo from target

internal wastegates are like SAFCs
useless and stupid.


hahahahahahahahaha
tomei is overprice JDM junk.

koukispec
07-16-2006, 05:20 PM
lol this info is actually really useful for me right cuz im in the market for a manifold...but since im on a budget should i just go for the megan exhaust manifold?instead of the tomei......this is for a budgeted s14 sr20det swap...heh......and plz dont say wait and save money for a full race cuz thats gonna take me a while, as i am 18...and i got car payments, and im paying for my own swap ect......:duh: thanks in advance for the info

Dousan_PG
07-16-2006, 08:00 PM
megan one
just do what BING said.

DeBastaard
07-17-2006, 08:39 AM
Jap manifolds look poorly welded if you look up close...

I wouldn't pay that much for a GReddy manifold in a 100 years.

Those Full Race manifolds look nice, never heard of them tho. But then again, i'm on the other side of the atlantic, hehe.

I'd rather make my own manifold with my bro, them i'm sure it's good :D

CKAMC
07-17-2006, 10:13 PM
Bling aka justin runs a full race manifold and was pushing the car to its limits this lat weekend at firebird and finally after a couple of hours he pulled over and FUCK was his manifold glowing! then again he is sponsered by them *lucky ass* . Peakperformance is my second choice, I have personally seen and looked at it and it stands up fairly well in design like the full race manofold.

SoSideways
07-17-2006, 10:53 PM
Bling aka justin runs a full race manifold and was pushing the car to its limits this lat weekend at firebird and finally after a couple of hours he pulled over and FUCK was his manifold glowing! then again he is sponsered by them *lucky ass* . Peakperformance is my second choice, I have personally seen and looked at it and it stands up fairly well in design like the full race manofold.

You mean Peak Boost?

ronmcdon
07-17-2006, 10:57 PM
I've tried to do some research, and basically I've also boiled it down to a full-race prostock (bottom mt) as well w/ a gt2871r .64. I'd also guess the bottom mount would spool a lot quicker than the top mount. Would be cool if full-race had some dynos to compare between their two manifolds.

I'd skimp out on a lot of stuff being the cheapskate that i am, but good manifolds are usually worth the $ imo. I'd just stick with the oem manifold if i had to choose between the ssa, or megan piece. the tomei looks nice, and isn't too expensive for a jdm manifold. i'd be interested to see the dyno results/comapros if there are any. not having an external wastegate option is a shame though.

btw - are there any full-race vs. peakboost dynos? their manifolds look pretty similar, and the pricing seems comparable w/ peakboost being a bit cheaper. should be interesting to have a dyno shootout, if it hasn't already been done.

CKAMC
07-18-2006, 12:21 AM
You mean Peak Boost?

Yes I ment peak Boost :bite:

24Zero
07-18-2006, 04:10 PM
I've tried to do some research, and basically I've also boiled it down to a full-race prostock (bottom mt) as well w/ a gt2871r .64.

I've done the same basic set up as you with the exception that I went with a top mount. In a few days I will know if I madae the right decision.


I'd skimp out on a lot of stuff being the cheapskate that i am, but good manifolds are usually worth the $ imo.

I think you are right about that!

Slidin240Wayz
07-18-2006, 08:38 PM
I like peak boost's downpipe. If anyone is interested in purchasing one, I suggest you go striaght throught PB, save at least 100 bucks. I remember seeing their website once. I can't seem to find it right now.

redsuns3838
07-19-2006, 04:33 AM
if u have the $ just get full race. u cant beat the lifetime warranty. if u have the $ that is.