Long night

[camppain]

well I won't retype my long ass story about tonights fiasco with my run in with the po-lice/pigs click here to see what happened

fuck the po-lice (http://www.migente.com/Members/index.html?LAUNCH_PAGE=http://members.migente.com/CAMPPAIN/)

See Irena I told you I'm basically black when it comes to the fucking pigs! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>

racial profiling mofo's!

[RedSuns]

fight the power!!!!!!!

[luey02]

cops hate us negroes

[Nismos14]

man thats bullshit!! sorry to hear about all that stuff man

[camppain]

puah i just picked up my car today. 40 bucks that the fuckin state better pay back.

this shit ain't over!

[Coldsun]

Ahh that sucks dude...
I got cuffed and booked and shit early this year too, and it wasn't for now damn traffic tickets either <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

Now that you mention it, i wish i got my mug shots too, i know they came out haha, hahah... The software these cops got now is PHAT , atleast here in NY... for one, its a video camera, and they take pics of you will they show up real time on the comp screen, and they as you if you have any tattoos or visable scars and take pics of them too....two, They finger printing isn't with ink anymore , you put your fingers on this gel pad and press down and they too show up in black and white jus like ink would... is that how shit was for you too Camp?

Anyway dude, That sucsk man...
I'ma give you a tip , you should calm down, yelling at the cops is never a good idea... I'll put it like this, i really am black, but i dont think most cops pull me over because of that (most can't even see into my car <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> &nbsp;) I do feel that when they come up to my car that i got a few strikes against me jus because of how i look or dress... BUT I KNOW that by me being cool with them will help them be cool with me...Like i said, i'm in NY and Black i dont wanna end up on the ground bleeding, LOL ....

Plus you handed him 4 tickets for id!?!? LOL that can't be good... either way man, best of luck... jus take it easy next time man, it will help... It sounds to me like this guy really was jus doing his job....
I've had alotta cops talk shit, tell me to shutup, make jokes and shit, ect.... you aint say he did that, and he was putting up with all your foul language... your gonna end up on "Wildest Police Videos" one day dude
haha
-Sun

[Rob]

Hey man thats BS ...damn cops... sorry to here what happened i hope u fight back and make the cops feel stupid. &nbsp;Good Luck

[VERTiG0]

<sa>"OMG OMG TEH COPZ AER PIKING ON ME BECUASE I AM NOT WIHTE OMG OMG ADN I WAS NOT DONIG BAD THNIGS OMG OMG A/S/L1?!?!?!!?!!?!?! ROFLOLLLOL~~~~~"</sa>

Nice fucking excuse, ladies. &nbsp;You were obviously doing something wrong while driving, and perhaps he realized you were speeding. &nbsp;Even 1mph over is speeding, you know that, right?

I don't give a shit what colour you are, if I were a cop and I saw someone weaving or speeding and not abiding the law they'd be pulled over in an instant. &nbsp;I drive the limit myself, and the police never bother me.

All you people that hate on the police can go to hell, you're just pissed off you got caught doing something stupid.


PS: Points for who knows what I mean by the <sa> tags.

[DuffMan]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (VERTiG0 @ May 08 2002,2:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><sa>"OMG OMG TEH COPZ AER PIKING ON ME BECUASE I AM NOT WIHTE OMG OMG ADN I WAS NOT DONIG BAD THNIGS OMG OMG A/S/L1?!?!?!!?!!?!?! ROFLOLLLOL~~~~~"</sa>

Nice fucking excuse, ladies. &nbsp;You were obviously doing something wrong while driving, and perhaps he realized you were speeding. &nbsp;Even 1mph over is speeding, you know that, right?

I don't give a shit what colour you are, if I were a cop and I saw someone weaving or speeding and not abiding the law they'd be pulled over in an instant. &nbsp;I drive the limit myself, and the police never bother me.

All you people that hate on the police can go to hell, you're just pissed off you got caught doing something stupid.


PS: Points for who knows what I mean by the <sa> tags.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Right, they should have cameras everywhere so if you ever go even a fraction of mph over the limit, you instantly get busted. No cops or courts or anything, they should just take it directly out of &nbsp;your bank account. And if happens 3 times, they should tow your car away and crush it into a little cube. That would make the world a perfect, completely safe place, right?

If only there was a way to monitor everybody's thoughts, then if people even thought about doing something bad, they could be eliminated. It would be a perfect world.

[sykikchimp]

cops these days are suppose to have video in the cars.. &nbsp;He should have you on tape. &nbsp;If you plead not guilty you should have the ability to review that tape I think?? If you weren't weaving then you could prove he was lying through his pig snout teeth.

Some cops are cool, but most are complete asswads that like to think they are above everybody. &nbsp;Most all of my bad experiences have been w/ state troopers. &nbsp;again, not all are asses, but most. &nbsp;And I am NEVER an ass to them. &nbsp;Always completely curtious, and obey whatever they ask. &nbsp;It's when you get in court that you rip them a new one. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[ca18guy]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (VERTiG0 @ May 09 2002,08:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">All you people that hate on the police can go to hell, you're just pissed off you got caught doing something stupid.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Cut all the other stuff out of your post and u have a point with this comment. As much as u hate to admit it camppain u handled the situation like a moron. First you argue with him over the violation (u very well could have been swerving while looking at the speedo or staring at the cop in the mirror, though we will never know) then when he practically hands you an excuse out (the "alignment") you throuw it back at him and put him on the defensive, which will only lead to one thing with cops! (around now did he ask for ID?) Then you hand him 4 traffic tickets? Why not just demand a ticket (i guess to prove your license was'nt suspended?) So when the cop does his job his job of taking a person with a suspended license off the street you cuss him (again smooth move) I know u said there was some agreement with the court but that was obviously not relayed onto anyone. Then at the jail you explode again cussing them out. Not once did I see you help your situation (nor do I see racial profiling a concern or matter cause he followed you from behind, it's not easy telling what race a person is from behind)

I'm not saying that you deserved to be pulled over but I do not pity you. You put yourself in that position and never helped yourself out. (having the 4 tickets and mouthing off from the start) I'm sure most won't like my view on this <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>

[jyt747]

Sorry to hear 'bout the all the bs that the cop gave you. Only problem with your case is that it's going to be the cops word against yours on whether you were weaving or not. The only way you can disprove this is if the cop had a camera in his car (try to find out). If not, you just basically got screwed by a pig. Good luck with the shiet!

[camppain]

first of all even duffman agreed with me that this was bs, HE EVEN SAID HE'S BEEN PULLED OVER BY THE SAME COPS FOR THE SAME THING AND GETS NO TICKET!

second of all i have a working hud which i ddont need to take my eye off the road. thrid i was not swerving. i think ive driven a car long anough to know how to handle it. the cop just wanted to pull me over you know how bad the police stations in illinois suburbs are?

did you guys in other states hear abou tthe headlines of them racially profiling minorities? dont tell me this doesnt happen and dont tell me someone with a darker pigment wont be "more suspect" and "fit the description".
then we got the wonderfull law of probable cause

so again ca18 i dont ask for your pity at all if you think i deserved to get pulled over so be it thank you for voicing your choice and opinion.

if i handled it like a moron the cop asked me if i was drinking #1 the road curves so there cant be no margin of error in me adjusting to the road? my car must drive perpendicular to the dividing lines? geez i wish i had a fucking penny for everyone that says i deserved to get pulled over.

the # of people i see with tints all over on their windows radios booming loud ass exhausts and more violations than ive ever done! dont get pulled over.

if you thik me yelling at the cop for being pulled over my license showing up suspended after the fuckin court said it wasnt! and you think thats over reacting for going to jail a second time for my license vbeing suspended inaccurately! then my friend you must live under a fuckin blanket.

its all proven its all facts

i guess im just supposed to get pulled over cause i was swerving like a fukin drunk with tropicana 100% orange juice in my system right?!

good thing he did his JOB andgot my dangerous ass off the street.

i told him form the get go about the court situation ca18guy. from the fuckin begining. even the court said it shouldnt show up suspended.

another case for you to sahow how fucked up it is over here

i got my license put up for suspension for 2 traffic violations withen 2 years while im 21! the limit is 3 withen a fuckin year for anyone 21 and over!

so ask me what the fuck happened? yes they should suspend my fuckin license since i get a ticket every year.

second ive had cops swear at me so im no longer letting them use their badge as a fuckin source of power.

plus he wasnt behind me the whole time he turned from a side street which would clearly have been able to see me and my face. i wonder why i didnt get a ticket for speeding? or for no seat belt? maybe cause i weart them and follow the fuckin god damn laws to a fuckin T yet still managed to get pulled over doing speed limit in a fuckin straight line!

all the times ive been to court i see nothing but minorites in court.

i just went to court for a cop saying i was speeding and that he was staionary when he tagged me. when he was behind me the whole fuckin way! what did the coip do he said the same bs thing 3 cases before me using the same words!

i told the judge this and he said since hes a cop he's a star witness and he is correct!

so i take it cops never lie right? i take it cops are the greatest thing ever made!

if you think this then your dumb def and blind.

i guess then preists arent molesting children lets just ship them to different parishes in diff countries. no way would a PREIST &nbsp;do something like that?!

maybe in some of the state you live in its not as populated as chicago and not as segregated as the suburbs. but beleive me, des plaines police were brought up under racial profiling lawsuits which were proven guilty against the district, plus numerous others.

so my overreaction was justified since this is the second time after some bullshit that shoulda never happened in the first place and has been resolved!

take it how u want it, and keep your eyes closed to the facts.

i mean the fbi didnt put crack in the ghettos of the black community, projects werent designed to segregate blacks away from the higher value land.
i guess amadau dialo did deserve to get shot 41 muthafuckin times by the cops!

[b]HE MUSTA DESERVED IT AND THE COPS WERE JUST DOING THEIR JOB</B>

Asata shakur definately shot and robbed that liquer store!

i mean evidence clearly disproves it but the cops said she did!

the hurricane definately shot himself into that bar.

he deserved the 20+ odd years in jail for being wrongfully accused.

plain and simple i have alot of friends that are white black middle eastern asian and latino. i dont stay to one race nor do i walk around with an supremest attitude nor a attitude that the white man is the devil. im far from that.

but what im saying and it is proiven that im a target more than any pigment challeneged people.

plain and simple no matter how big the crime there is always deciet involved in it

[camppain]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Coldsun @ May 09 2002,12:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ahh that sucks dude...
I got cuffed and booked and shit early this year too, and it wasn't for now damn traffic tickets either <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

Now that you mention it, i wish i got my mug shots too, i know they came out haha, hahah... The software these cops got now is PHAT , atleast here in NY... for one, its a video camera, and they take pics of you will they show up real time on the comp screen, and they as you if you have any tattoos or visable scars and take pics of them too....two, They finger printing isn't with ink anymore , you put your fingers on this gel pad and press down and they too show up in black and white jus like ink would... is that how shit was for you too Camp?

Anyway dude, That sucsk man...
I'ma give you a tip , you should calm down, yelling at the cops is never a good idea... I'll put it like this, i really am black, but i dont think most cops pull me over because of that (most can't even see into my car <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> ) I do feel that when they come up to my car that i got a few strikes against me jus because of how i look or dress... BUT I KNOW that by me being cool with them will help them be cool with me...Like i said, i'm in NY and Black i dont wanna end up on the ground bleeding, LOL ....

Plus you handed him 4 tickets for id!?!? LOL that can't be good... either way man, best of luck... jus take it easy next time man, it will help... It sounds to me like this guy really was jus doing his job....
I've had alotta cops talk shit, tell me to shutup, make jokes and shit, ect.... you aint say he did that, and he was putting up with all your foul language... your gonna end up on "Wildest Police Videos" one day dude
haha
-Sun</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
yeah they had the vide camera and showed me the print out of my pics i wanted em for my site <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> couldnt get em though <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

the finger printing was done elctronicaly it wasnt gel it was scanned no more ink

and i handed him one ticket for id i meeant to say i had 4 tickects in my wallet 2 are for evidence that my license couldnt have been suspended since i was issued tickts.

and only 2 were pending violations

[mistert]

if i saw vertigo's white canadian ass driving around i would pull him over, too! i'm not a cop or anything, but im pretty sure i could just force him off the road and beat him with a tire-iron or something

of course he would probably ask me for pictures of his mug to go on his page, goatse.cx (dont want to add a www or make it a link because of teh very offensive nature of it, dont go there! )

you did handle it pretty badly though. for the most part, you just need to show police officers the respect they deserve for the job they do, whether you think they deserve it or not. they dont really care what people do, except the really up-tight ones, as long as you're not out on the streets doing illegal shit and endangering people

[camppain]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mistert @ May 09 2002,10:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">if i saw vertigo's white canadian ass driving around i would pull him over, too! i'm not a cop or anything, but im pretty sure i could just force him off the road and beat him with a tire-iron or something

of course he would probably ask me for pictures of his mug to go on his page, goatse.cx (dont want to add a www or make it a link because of teh very offensive nature of it, dont go there! )

you did handle it pretty badly though. for the most part, you just need to show police officers the respect they deserve for the job they do, whether you think they deserve it or not. they dont really care what people do, except the really up-tight ones, as long as you're not out on the streets doing illegal shit and endangering people</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
once he showed me respect i did the same to him. im no one to back down to anyone nor do i try to let my ego or testosterone get in the way of it. ive had run in with cops that have been very cool, and ive haddickheads also, just like there are middle easterner's that are dumb ass terrorists, latinos that are nothing more than gangbangers whites that are nothing but racists, blacks that do nothing but sell drugs, i can go on and stereo type them by one bad apple, but im not i am pissed though at this and i will be writting a well versed letter to an alderman in my district tomorroeow im going back to the court house that said i was good to go. and then i got my first court case on this tuesday. so we'll see what happens in the pending day's

[alter-Nater]

hey camppain, I feel you completely. &nbsp;Although it's possible you could have better handled the situation, you in no way deserve the punishments you received. &nbsp;The people who take the cops' side are the ones who have never been arrested. &nbsp;Once this happens, one is able to witness the flaws inherent within our fucked-up, money-driven system. &nbsp;Make sure you get a good lawyer; it might cost a lot of money, but without one you are definitely fucked (remember: money-driven system). &nbsp;In the long run, it will be worth it to have a liscense and insurance, and a cleaner record.

and Vertigo, I just have to give you props on this comment:

<<Right, they should have cameras everywhere so if you ever go even a fraction of mph over the limit, you instantly get busted. No cops or courts or anything, they should just take it directly out of &nbsp;your bank account. And if happens 3 times, they should tow your car away and crush it into a little cube. That would make the world a perfect, completely safe place, right?

If only there was a way to monitor everybody's thoughts, then if people even thought about doing something bad, they could be eliminated. It would be a perfect world.>>

-- The saddest thing is, some people probably agree with you, but they don't pick up on the sarcasm. &nbsp;Lambs being led to the slaughter.

[SR20Fastback]

a little off topic but I think there is a movie coming out with tom cruise about cops arressting people before they commit the crime. I agree that what happened sucks balls man. Good luck with everything, but make sure you dont like go off on the judge lol <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[KoukiS14]

Someone owns a 240sx and drives the speed limit? &nbsp;What the hell. . &nbsp;why'd you buy that car if you can't enjoy it? &nbsp;Why not just buy a Civic. .

-Rob

[nuxx]

From my experience and a general grasp on rational thought, one would tend to believe that you dug yourself into a hole by verbally assaulting the peace officer. You were at fault, as you admitted that you were speeding. Even one mile per hour over the speed limit (which is set to the local standards for what is safe under optimum driving conditions) is speeding, period.

Perhaps you should consider introspection as to your driving habits. You seem to be constantly testing the rules when you drive. In addition, you have received multiple traffic violations in a rather brief period of time. Might this be the reason that the officer took you into custody, the fact that you appear to be a reckless driver, have been up before a judge on a penalty of license suspension, and the officer felt it was his duty to the public at large to take you off the road?
Why exactly do you feel you have the right to receive respect from any police officer? Any respect you are given is to be earned, and you seem to fight that every chance you are given.

Some adavice for you:
1) Slow down.
2) If you do happen to get pulled over for a (reasonable) traffic violation that you know (or even think may be possible) you committed; remain calm, admit that you were wrong, do not attempt to excuse what you did, and always remain pleasant with the officer. You would be suprized how often that will get you off with a warning instead of a ticket.
3) Don't attempt to excuse your actions by comparing yourself to others. It is childish and futile.
4) Get off your racially oppressed high horse. You are not the victim of any large consiparcy involving governmental agencies, nor a mass plot to keep the minorities under the heel of the white man.

Good luck with your court hearing.

[camppain]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (nuxx @ May 09 2002,12:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">From my experience and a general grasp on rational thought, one would tend to believe that you dug yourself into a hole by verbally assaulting the peace officer. You were at fault, as you admitted that you were speeding. Even one mile per hour over the speed limit (which is set to the local standards for what is safe under optimum driving conditions) is speeding, period.

Perhaps you should consider introspection as to your driving habits. You seem to be constantly testing the rules when you drive. In addition, you have received multiple traffic violations in a rather brief period of time. Might this be the reason that the officer took you into custody, the fact that you appear to be a reckless driver, have been up before a judge on a penalty of license suspension, and the officer felt it was his duty to the public at large to take you off the road?
Why exactly do you feel you have the right to receive respect from any police officer? Any respect you are given is to be earned, and you seem to fight that every chance you are given.

Some adavice for you:
1) Slow down.
2) If you do happen to get pulled over for a (reasonable) traffic violation that you know (or even think may be possible) you committed; remain calm, admit that you were wrong, do not attempt to excuse what you did, and always remain pleasant with the officer. You would be suprized how often that will get you off with a warning instead of a ticket.
3) Don't attempt to excuse your actions by comparing yourself to others. It is childish and futile.
4) Get off your racially oppressed high horse. You are not the victim of any large consiparcy involving governmental agencies, nor a mass plot to keep the minorities under the heel of the white man.

Good luck with your court hearing.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
uhh where did u see me say i got pulled over for speeding?

#1 your telling me everyone drives right at or below the speed limit? which planet do you live on?

#2 from the times ive been pulled over and been issued tickets if i was at fault i would easily admit to the officer and say i wouldpay them and they would be paid

#3 obviously u didn read my whole topic IM OVER 21 i got a suspended license for 2 traffic violations withen 2 years?!

#4i didnt say im part of some conspiracy, i simply stated the facts that minorities get the lower end of the stick as discussed with another zilvia member who travels the same route and has been pulled over for the same thing.

#5i have not tested any rules
once i get a ticket for something i have learned from it
ie no seatbelt ive worn my seatbelt everytime i even get in my car
i dont speed on my way home other cars pass me up while i do the speed limit if not one -2 miles over. that is in no way testing anything. is your foot that accurate? i really and highly doubt that
my multiple traffic violations were

no front plate displayed (thrown out), rear brake light not working, (one was out) ohh man i was asking for that one! weeee hoooooooo (ended up paying for the warning since they wouldnt give me a court date which the cop said they would)
speeding (when the cop didnt even show me the radar) expired plates (which was thrown out since i had renewed them and was waiting on the new stickers) Large object being displayed thru window (forgot the real name) but this was having a flag on the puerto rican day parade with my friend (this got also thrown out since the judge said it was stupid of the cop to stop me)
Majority of my tickets have been thrown out by judges since its a waste of time.

have you guys ever talked to cops? have you ever tried asking cops whats legal and whats not? i've asked many cops on the law of tinting windows some say you cant have any tint on the front some say you can have only # of % some say less some say more some say only if you have a doctrers notice and something wrong with your eyes. they tell me to check at the secretary of state i go there they dont have no info, cops dont know half the laws they pull you over for. there are a bunch of cops that go to my dealer. i ask them all the time about the bs i get in and they even agree with me. like i said i respect cops that are cool and there are alot but there are alotta dickheads as well. shoot im always helpgint hem with thier cars for no charge

and dont deem my points about racial profiling as being null and void since the police districts have been proven guilty under federal probes and investigations here where i live

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

[Coldsun]

Camp are you even black, You look like your indian or spanish dude.. Not saying that that means you got it easy but stop saying black this, and ghetto that, and holding the black man down ect..... Cuz your jus making the rest of the blacks kids on this site look dumb....

Look.... I know that there are alotta hater ass cops that will go out and try to fuck with someone of a darker skin.... but dude i seriously dont think thats how things went down with you, thats something that could have happened to someone white, green, black, brown whateva.....

He pulled you over cuz he says you were swaying ...ok whatever, cuz i've been pulled over for no reason before... Now he is asking you shit and your talking like a drunk whino, then you give him your Ticket id (and 4 of them for some reason ?!? ) &nbsp;and then he runs your ticket id sees that you've been suspended before, or whateva... dude you could have gotten out of this.... You aint even say the cop was yelling at you, you were yellin at him. &nbsp;hes doing his job and your giving him hell... your lucky he was on camera otherwise he woulda beat your ass...... whateva man, dont blame anyone before you look at yaself

i'ma tell you something my daddy told me when i was little, he said son "You already got the odds against you being a black man, dont give them more of a reason to try to take you down. Acting ignorant never helps prove your smart"

Jus think is that how brother Martin Luther King woulda handled it!!! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> &nbsp;
-Sun

[camppain]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Coldsun @ May 09 2002,9:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Camp are you even black, You look like your indian or spanish dude.. Not saying that that means you got it easy but stop saying black this, and ghetto that, and holding the black man down ect..... Cuz your jus making the rest of the blacks kids on this site look dumb....

Look.... I know that there are alotta hater ass cops that will go out and try to fuck with someone of a darker skin.... but dude i seriously dont think thats how things went down with you, thats something that could have happened to someone white, green, black, brown whateva.....

He pulled you over cuz he says you were swaying ...ok whatever, cuz i've been pulled over for no reason before... Now he is asking you shit and your talking like a drunk whino, then you give him your Ticket id (and 4 of them for some reason ?!? ) and then he runs your ticket id sees that you've been suspended before, or whateva... dude you could have gotten out of this.... You aint even say the cop was yelling at you, you were yellin at him. hes doing his job and your giving him hell... your lucky he was on camera otherwise he woulda beat your ass...... whateva man, dont blame anyone before you look at yaself

i'ma tell you something my daddy told me when i was little, he said son "You already got the odds against you being a black man, dont give them more of a reason to try to take you down. Acting ignorant never helps prove your smart"

Jus think is that how brother Martin Luther King woulda handled it!!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>
-Sun</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
no man im not black, your pretty quick <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> j/p

i was just pointing out some other facts not trying to make anyopne look dumb. people were saying stuff doesnt exist, yeah i was mad when i mad the post i was mad when i type everything out. was i reallly that mad looking when i was with tha cops? no i was acting mainly sarcastic as i stated in my post.

and once again I DIDN'T HAND HIM OVER <B>4</B> tickets.

read please i know its long but ive explained it above as to why i had 4 tickets in my wallet. 2 are over and done with i have just as proof to show in court that i couldnt have had my license suspended after everything was taken care of and i even received those 2 tickets.


for now i guess the only thing left to do is to go to court and let u guys know what happens.













and yes i've stated in abovce replies that anyone cannnnnn get pulled over aliens martians a can of prignles what so ever it be.

and where did i say i was talking like a drunk? i never said that soldsun. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>

please read, i may have typed to fast for myself and i didnt re read my post but i did yesterday and im pretty sure i didnt say that neither did i say that on my other site

[ca18guy]

"so again ca18 i dont ask for your pity at all if you think i deserved to get pulled over so be it thank you for voicing your choice and opinion."

Not once did I say I think you should have been pulled over. Personally I think you should'nt have but you where, and from that point I think you handled the situation badly.

"did you guys in other states hear abou tthe headlines of them racially profiling minorities? dont tell me this doesnt happen and dont tell me someone with a darker pigment wont be "more suspect" and "fit the description".
then we got the wonderfull law of probable cause"

Yes I recall reading that and don't see how he could tell your race from behind. Even if he did profile you, from the way he (the cop) came up to your car and handled the situation it sounded like he pulled over any other person. Then when he found out that you had a supposed suspended license he just did his job.

Anyway I'm not saying it's a fucked up situation just your past (all those tickets, court errors) effects your present and you have to deal with it. In essence you put yourself in these situations in a way. I'm done with my POV cause I was'nt there, but from your description it seems more like you being the aggressor. Hopefully everything gets worked out in court.

[transient]

I have to agree with ca18guy on this one. I don't think you should have been pulled over in the first place, but I do think that you could have handled it better after you were. Did you really think that badmouthing the cop was going to help your cause? From the way you wrote it, it sounds like you're really proud about yelling all those vulgar words to them. I'd be willing to bet that if you were a bit more calm and rational, you probably could have talked your way out of the entire thing, but instead, you got yourself cuffed and taken to the station. I think that cop handled the situation pretty well, and you're lucky he was so nice about it.

[ajbarnes1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (camppain @ May 09 2002,09:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">no man im not black, your pretty quick <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> j/p

i was just pointing out some other facts not trying to make anyopne look dumb. people were saying stuff doesnt exist, yeah i was mad when i mad the post i was mad when i type everything out. was i reallly that mad looking when i was with tha cops? no i was acting mainly sarcastic as i stated in my post.

and once again I DIDN'T HAND HIM OVER 4 tickets.

read please i know its long but ive explained it above as to why i had 4 tickets in my wallet. 2 are over and done with i have just as proof to show in court that i couldnt have had my license suspended after everything was taken care of and i even received those 2 tickets.



and where did i say i was talking like a drunk? i never said that soldsun. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>

please read, i may have typed to fast for myself and i didnt re read my post but i did yesterday and im pretty sure i didnt say that neither did i say that on my other site</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Well, here's a quote from your original story:
&nbsp;
"So I give him my 4 TICKETS I already have and my state I.D. for photo reasons and he walks back to his car. Few minutes later he comes back and asks me to step out, I ask why"

&nbsp; &nbsp; So did you or did you not give him 4 tickets?

&nbsp; &nbsp; As for the part about you talking drunk:

" Cop comes to the window and says that i was "weaving back and forth in the lane"! Me being fed the *bleep* up with being pulled over for such bullsh*t stories cop`s make, I immediately go off on him with no concern.......He said that my license was showing suspended for driving under a suspended license. I then again immedietly go off on him saying that I have a court date for that..."

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Now, we know that you weren't drinking, but to a cop, you probably seemed to be acting as if you had. &nbsp;Continuously yelling at the cop without concern, as you said that you did, isn't really giving him too many options. &nbsp;I think that you are failing to look at the overall situation. &nbsp;From just reading your story, most people WOULD think that you were under the influence of something. &nbsp;From what you wrote, the cop seemed to be acting pretty cool-- he saw that you had outstanding violations and did what he was trained to do. &nbsp;I am sure that if he let you go on your way, and it ever came back to him that your license showed up as suspended, his job would be on the line. &nbsp;But you insisted on yelling at him and giving him shit. &nbsp;And while I understand the fact that you may live in a bad suburb of Chicago, you have to take that into consideration too. &nbsp;A cop on his usual rounds pulls over a guy that appears to be swerving-- if you live in a bad area, think of the stuff that this cop has to deal with on a daily basis. &nbsp;Now he pulls you over at night, and you start yelling at him. &nbsp;The cop was probably scared shitless-- And if the area is as bad as you say it is, I would have to say that he has probable cause for the majority of people he pulls, regardless of race. &nbsp;Yes, I feel bad that you got pulled over, but from that point on, you reaped what you sowed.

[camppain]

well as an update for you guys i went to court today for 2 of my remaining 4 tickets. I got 2 from one police district on one stop and then 2 on one stop when i first posted this.

so i get called up explain the case blah blah blah. the district attourny or whatever they are keeps shhh'ing me when im explaining something. shes telling me its irrelevent. bahh! i coulda smacked her dumb caffeine crazed ass <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> (well almost)

so the dumb asses wont listen to me with all the paper im showing them they sent me back to the clerks who say i have court today in the room i was just in. im explaining to them the judge jusst sent me here for god knows what?! so now the clerks are telling me i have a new court date!

im like wtf?! so im pissed now since i show up to court with all the proff and was presenting my case. i see one of the lawyers that was in there previously and asked him a few ?'s showed hoim my paper work told him what was going on.

plain and simple he was like 100 bucks and it;ll all get thrown out. so i hand it over he walks over to the judge they recall my case and he explains the same thing to them and boom! not guilty

yessssssssssss! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> &nbsp;next case will be thrown out since the suspension was based on this.

it was funny though after he was getting the paper work for me to take to the secretary of state even the clerks again were trying to say my license is suspended!

he even saw how annoying it has been for me to ddeal with this.

ohh well one down one more to go.

[JeffNJ]

I really shouldn't be dignifying this thread with a reply, but this crap has nothing to do with race. &nbsp;I'm not trying to say racism doesn't exist or that it doesn't rear it's ugly head all the time for stupid-ass ignorant reasons, but in this particular case, I just gotta say two things.

1. &nbsp;I'm about as white as they come, and I were swearin' up a storm to the police right after I was caught driving on a suspended, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if that landed me a free to trip the other side of the bars.

2. &nbsp;If I could unimpound a car that had been towed for a mere forty bucks, I'd be exstatic. &nbsp;I once "threw a car out" because they wanted over $200 to give it back to me.

[Kreator]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (JeffNJ @ May 15 2002,12:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I really shouldn't be dignifying this thread with a reply, but this crap has nothing to do with race. I'm not trying to say racism doesn't exist or that it doesn't rear it's ugly head all the time for stupid-ass ignorant reasons, but in this particular case, I just gotta say two things.

1. I'm about as white as they come, and I were swearin' up a storm to the police right after I was caught driving on a suspended, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if that landed me a free to trip the other side of the bars.

2. If I could unimpound a car that had been towed for a mere forty bucks, I'd be exstatic. I once "threw a car out" because they wanted over $200 to give it back to me.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hmm i think all the police shit is about race.... I have a friend, he's from brazil, he drives a white v6 camaro.... everything about it is perfect except he doesn't have his front license plate... Guess what, every month he gets pulled over about 2 times for not having it. It's like written in his expenditures. By now he just always accounts for it, and marks that money as spent at the beginning of each month...... I mean he says often they just pull up behind him, ride there for 5 mins then after finding nothing they speed up, pass him, see the absence of the front plate, slow down, pull him over, search his car and other shit......... so i dunnow.... never happened to me at least..

[JeffNJ]

Kreator, well, now that seems race-related. &nbsp;But what this thread is focusing around seems to be related a whole helluva lot more to respect than to ethnicity.

[transient]

Yeah, camppain's situation isn't about race, it's about him being immature and mouthing off to a cop for no reason.

Btw, why the hell doesn't your friend just put the front license plate on? I think it would be a heck of a lot easier than getting pulled over for it.

[MyFirst240SX]

I got my car, passenger, and me searched and giving a DUI test bc i was shaking( its really cold and the cop wouldn't let me get my jacket out of my hatch) &nbsp;for driving on a public road that goes around a golf course. &nbsp;I thought that was total bullshit but i remained highly respectfull and it turned out that they could press trepassing charges on me bc i had no reason to be where i was. &nbsp;But they let me go. &nbsp;If i had raised hell the whole time do u think i would have gotten off?
My point is this, you could have been going back and forth in the lane and not really noticed it. &nbsp;If you where in a high crime area then the cop has no reason not to pull you over. &nbsp;You acted unreasonable so the cop did what his job was to do, You just gave him a better excuse.

[Kreator]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (transient @ May 15 2002,2:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah, camppain's situation isn't about race, it's about him being immature and mouthing off to a cop for no reason.

Btw, why the hell doesn't your friend just put the front license plate on? I think it would be a heck of a lot easier than getting pulled over for it.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
well he did get pulled over for "weaving in lane" in the first place....

As for my friend, he is just a dumbass. He says he is not putting it on because of principles and cuz he doesn't like hte way it looks... I guess he is trying to prove something to the police which is plain happy with him cuz they get to take away his money....

[camppain]

well as u see transient i mouthed off due to the court and the system f*/cking up. like i said my license was never suspended at the time i got pulled over so as far as me bad mouthing the cop. i think anyone going thru that a second time and espcially after being pulled over for something that [i]I NEVER DID</I> which was weaving in my lane.

im not one person to go around saying cops just pick on certain minorities but after moving here to the suburbs and seeing it done to me. i think it is true

i dont have anything at all against anyone with a lighter complextion than me. if thats the way most of my previous post's in this topic came off as that i was pissed. yes i went off on the cop i probably shouldnt have.

but with the facts pointing toward the system f*ckin up and re suspending my license, as i was proven not guilty!

i think i was justified in cursing at him with emotion.

its a hassle ive had to go thru 2 timeas already. majority of my friends are white, i have black friends i dont count how many i have of each nor do i say hey wait i have more green friends than yellow friends.

but when you look at the stupidity of the things ive been pulled over for i think its agreed #1 they tend to target "certain people" what you want to define it as is up to u. the police are going to stereotype someone.

plain and simple its how they are trained its how it is thats life.

im not mad at anything cause finally im getting them back by being proven not guilty!

also as i stated origianlly in the court room they wouldnt even let me present my case. not until i had to go and pay a lawyer to say the same things i told them.

they didnt listen to me. i didnt mind coughing up the 100 bucks but if they would have listeed to me instead oiff shh'ing me so immaturely as they did i would have been outta there quickly.

so i wasnt being immature i was heated as any person who has went thru the same amount of bs as i have in the few months of this year would have mouthed off.

im tired of being targeted. i have everything on my car it complies with every law in illinois theres no reason i should be getting pulled over every month for such bs made up lies

only reason the cop issued the ticket for weaving was to justify that he pulled me over for a reason. even though it was false he has to have proof that he didnt profile me in any way. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

[camppain]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MyFirst240SX @ May 16 2002,05:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I got my car, passenger, and me searched and giving a DUI test bc i was shaking( its really cold and the cop wouldn't let me get my jacket out of my hatch) for driving on a public road that goes around a golf course. I thought that was total bullshit but i remained highly respectfull and it turned out that they could press trepassing charges on me bc i had no reason to be where i was. But they let me go. If i had raised hell the whole time do u think i would have gotten off?
My point is this, you could have been going back and forth in the lane and not really noticed it. If you where in a high crime area then the cop has no reason not to pull you over. You acted unreasonable so the cop did what his job was to do, You just gave him a better excuse.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
again the cops actions to take me in were only due to the mistakes made by the state, secratary of state judges vclerks cops whoever u wanna blame
my actions werent unjustified, yeah i acted like a total ass but i was pissed so there is no need to keep explaining that everyone in my position would have done that after goiung thru everything i've been thru..


just like i said one case already got thrown out of court and i was priven not guilty the next case driving under a susp which is were the cop said i was "weaving" will get thrown out also.

plain and simple.