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GonadSX
11-05-2005, 11:59 PM
ATI Procharger 3-Core Standard intercooler. Commonly found on domestic turbo/supercharged applications (Mustangs, Camaros, etc.)

(Based on my measurements)

Core dimension: 26" X 6" X 3"
Overall dimension: 28.5" x 13" x 3"
Inlet/Outlet dimension: 3" O.D. / 2.74" I.D.

http://www.procharger.com/intercoolers.shtml

http://www.son240sx.ca/images/gonad/moneyshot1.jpg
http://www.son240sx.ca/images/gonad/moneyshot2.jpg

gorgasm
11-06-2005, 12:18 AM
looks different. not bad though.

DrtyRat
11-06-2005, 12:20 AM
A 240 with a fmic? I see one everyday. Someone tell me what I missed.

GonadSX
11-06-2005, 12:32 AM
A 240 with a fmic? I see one everyday. Someone tell me what I missed.
Join Date: Jan 2005

Andrew Bohan
11-06-2005, 01:03 AM
having an intercooler like that increases the internal flow area so it has lower pressure loss.

hella short tubes > fewer long tubes

SoSideways
11-06-2005, 01:04 AM
Yeah seriously, I don't see why that's so special... Yeah, it's custom, but it's better... I mean, are you trying to make fun of the guy (directed to thread starter) or giving him props?

krustindumm
11-06-2005, 01:20 AM
having an intercooler like that increases the internal flow area so it has lower pressure loss.

hella short tubes > fewer long tubes

:hahano: :ugh:

Got proof?

Irukandji
11-06-2005, 01:29 AM
:hahano: :ugh:

Got proof?

got common sense?


That sort of looks like the supercharger fmic's that come with HKS supercharger kits... i dont know maybe im just hallucinating.

that180guy
11-06-2005, 02:33 AM
yeah man, that fm looks different....vertical fin layout stead of horizontal?
sum one clue me in on that....

GonadSX
11-06-2005, 08:13 AM
Well I guess if you want proof...

Straight outta Corky Bell's book.

That's why I bought this. I wanted something different and because Corky Bell owns me. :rofl:

http://www.son240sx.ca/images/gonad/coredesign.jpg

Phlip
11-06-2005, 08:21 AM
Now I SUGGEST thgat you add some details IN TEXT about that intercooler, such as brand, any other specifications, where it came from before I decide to merge your first post into the picture thread and delete every other one in this thread.

GonadSX
11-06-2005, 08:37 AM
Now I SUGGEST thgat you add some details IN TEXT about that intercooler, such as brand, any other specifications, where it came from before I decide to merge your first post into the picture thread and delete every other one in this thread.

Done and done.

theicecreamdan
11-06-2005, 10:07 AM
oooh it looks like a cool front grill thing, STEALTH

smellslikecurry
11-06-2005, 12:25 PM
its ugly but functional...cant have everything :(

ThatGuy
11-06-2005, 12:32 PM
^^Matter of opinion. I think it looks pretty nice. I'd paint it black just like any other FMIC I plan on getting though.

trsilvias13
11-06-2005, 01:25 PM
my friend with a dsm has it like that.. but for the 240sx which covers the entire front.. looks like a radiator. It might be good for a sleeper type thing

meatish
11-06-2005, 01:33 PM
http://www.son240sx.ca/images/gonad/moneyshot1.jpg


Ur 240 looks like this: :madfawk:

Great idea though, let us know what it feels like.

Andrew Bohan
11-06-2005, 01:51 PM
here's some math

Core dimension: 26" X 6" X 3"

filling that with horizontal tubes gives 6" x 3" = 18 square inches of flow area, with tubes 26" long

vertical tubes gives 26" x 3" = 78 square inches of flow area, with tubes 6" long.

GonadSX
11-06-2005, 02:18 PM
Nah I think it looks more like this :fawk:

The reason I did this was I'm just trying different things; plus I follow Corky's book like if it was the bible. :)

Wonder if anyone noticed that little radiator thing behind the intercooler (and in front of the stock radiator). ;)

Phlip
11-06-2005, 02:21 PM
Wonder if anyone noticed that little radiator thing behind the intercooler (and in front of the stock radiator). ;)
Yeah, I noticed that too, is this car an automatic, or is that cooling something other than an automatic transmission?

GonadSX
11-06-2005, 02:24 PM
Yeah, I noticed that too, is this car an automatic, or is that cooling something other than an automatic transmission?

Nope. Oil cooler. :)

Setrab unit i got off eBay a while ago, and a PermaCool oil relocation kit (also off eBay). Oil cooler is: 11" x 7.5" x 1.75"

And yes, it goes: Engine -> Oil cooler -> Filter -> Engine
I wanted Engine -> Filter -> Cooler -> Engine but for some reason it wasn't feasable (I forget). :)

http://www.son240sx.ca/images/gonad/oilcooler.jpg

axiomatik
11-06-2005, 10:07 PM
filling that with horizontal tubes gives 6" x 3" = 18 square inches of flow area, with tubes 26" long

vertical tubes gives 26" x 3" = 78 square inches of flow area, with tubes 6" long.

Well, typical intercoolers w/ horizontal tubes are generally taller than 6 inches. You also have the airflow making to 90* turns in the intercooler. I'm not saying that horizontal tubes are better, I just want to point out that this intercooler probably isn't 4 times better than typical intercoolers, as your math suggests.

chmercer
11-06-2005, 10:37 PM
gonadsx - where did you get thoes bronze AN fittings? are they cheaper than aeroquip stuff? i need some cheap barb conversions for a setrab core myself. please more info!

Andrew Bohan
11-07-2005, 01:21 AM
Well, typical intercoolers w/ horizontal tubes are generally taller than 6 inches. You also have the airflow making to 90* turns in the intercooler. I'm not saying that horizontal tubes are better, I just want to point out that this intercooler probably isn't 4 times better than typical intercoolers, as your math suggests.

i'm not saying that since the flow area is 4 times greater, the intercooler is 4 times better. of course the 90º bends and long distance the air has to travel across the length of the core before it even gets to the far end will reduce its performance.

GonadSX
11-07-2005, 05:22 AM
The oil cooler has -10AN male ends. I ended up getting -10AN FEMALE to 3/8" MALE Earl fittings (the blue fittings you see).

The rest of the bronze fittings are just male and female 3/8" fittings from Home Depot.

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&Ntt=earl+fittings&N=300499+4294906745+4294906755+4294906736&part=EAR%2D916111ERL&autoview=sku&Ntk=KeywordSearch
http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/ear-916103erl_w.jpg

DrtyRat
11-07-2005, 07:56 AM
ATI Procharger 3-Core Standard intercooler. Commonly found on domestic turbo/supercharged applications (Mustangs, Camaros, etc.)

(Based on my measurements)

Core dimension: 26" X 6" X 3"
Overall dimension: 28.5" x 13" x 3"
Inlet/Outlet dimension: 3" O.D. / 2.74" I.D.

http://www.procharger.com/intercoolers.shtml

http://www.son240sx.ca/images/gonad/moneyshot1.jpg
http://www.son240sx.ca/images/gonad/moneyshot2.jpg
Now I understand why "you don't see this everyday"

axiomatik
11-07-2005, 11:18 AM
i'm not saying that since the flow area is 4 times greater, the intercooler is 4 times better. of course the 90º bends and long distance the air has to travel across the length of the core before it even gets to the far end will reduce its performance.

I know you weren't suggesting that, I just thought I would add a clarification for others who might glance at your numbers and assume that this intercooler is four times better.

SimpleS14
11-07-2005, 11:47 AM
I wonder if I can still utilize the bumper reinforcement with this IC core. I noticed your BOV is on the cold pipe, notice any difference compared to being on the hot pipe?

edit: where did you buy that IC core?

420sx
11-07-2005, 12:27 PM
Join Date: Jan 2005


muahahahahaa :Owned:

EchoOfSilence
11-07-2005, 05:46 PM
damn physics for being counterintuitive. I would think that more tubes = more pressure loss

theicecreamdan
11-07-2005, 06:08 PM
more tubes = bigger tubes = easier flow?

Ur 240 looks like this: :madfawk:

Great idea though, let us know what it feels like.

Ur mom looks like this: :madfawk:

NemeGuero
11-07-2005, 06:34 PM
damn physics for being counterintuitive. I would think that more tubes = more pressure loss
you're just using the wrong intuition. haha. think about 4 small tubes coming off an airbox or plenum.. they'll have equal pressure across them and since the tubes are smaller, they'll retain that pressure better than a single larger tube.

GonadSX
11-07-2005, 07:02 PM
The rebar will fit but it has to be cut in at least two splaces I believe....the center (where most ppl cut it on those traditional FMICs) and the hot side needs a piece cut out to clear the pipe...

I bought the IC off eBay from someone in Hawaii. :)