View Full Version : 2006 Civic Si - Convince Me Otherwise
TwoFourO
11-03-2005, 10:24 AM
I am currently awaiting delivery of a 2006 Civic Si from the local Honda Dealership. Somebody convince me it's a bad idea to purchase this vehicle as opposed to keeping my S13 and dumping more money into it. My problem with keeping the 240 is that any money I put into it I cannot get back out in the case of an accident or sale. Any ideas or suggestions or flames are welcomed!
smellslikecurry
11-03-2005, 10:33 AM
just keep the 240...civic daily
reefer1114
11-03-2005, 10:37 AM
just keep the 240...civic daily
werd...and dont touch the civic(dont do anything to it)
TwoFourO
11-03-2005, 10:37 AM
I considered that option but insurance costs will most likely keep me from doing so. Does anybody know if there is a reduced insurance option allowing only a certain # of miles driven per week? Are these costs somewhat reasonable? Opinions on the above are still appreciated.
EchoOfSilence
11-03-2005, 10:53 AM
FWD. you could have gotten a relatively new Subie for that price.
s13's a car that takes love for someone to dump money in KNOWING that he/she will not get 1/2 or even 1/4 of the money back. these car's aren't exactly for fixing up to sell it for more later. The returns you get on this car is purely enjoyment.
BUT if you have an inkling for a new car, go ahead they'll be more reliable than one.
and the Si just looks like a rebadged accord, and is decently fast, i guess. new cars have been made too tall nowadays, and just too fat.
What are YOUR reasons to go with the Si anyway?
OptionZero
11-03-2005, 10:53 AM
Get the civic. Fewer problems, warrantee, better gas mileage, faster, no mods needed, and it's cleaner.
Why are you even asking?
EchoOfSilence
11-03-2005, 10:54 AM
i will second the civic daily and 240 weekender option
exitspeed
11-03-2005, 10:56 AM
Hood's too short and A-Pillar is pushed too far forward and it's FWD which ='s no fun.
There did I convince you?
TwoFourO
11-03-2005, 11:08 AM
The reason I'm asking is because I need to get some reassurance from my zilvia crew that it's a somewhat reasonable decision. You guys are the closest in situation to myself as far as love for the S13 and cars and everything goes. I've had my S13 for over four years and have put more blood, sweat, tears, and money into it than anyone could imagine and I know a lot of you guys are in the same boat. It's going to be beyond hard for me to say goodbye to my car and what it has given me, but I think it's time to move on. Furthermore, I was more than curious to see what a bunch of RWD driving, Nissan fanatics would say about Honda's new FWD performer. Still taking opinions, thanks guys.
axiomatik
11-03-2005, 11:13 AM
Try some sort of collector car insurance like Grundy. Grundy says they have no mileage restrictions, and you can insure it for what you have actually put into it, you just can't use it as a daily driver. I don't know if they offer it for cars this new, but it's worth a shot.
OptionZero
11-03-2005, 11:17 AM
The 240sx is a used car, designed nearly a decade ago. Owning one is a commitment, one which you are either unwilling or unprepared to take. It's not a flame, it's an observation- the very fact you've already started down the road with a new car and have to ask about this is ample evidence of that.
The Civic is a better car out of the box than most 240sxs that don't have a moderate amount of tuning done to it. HLSD, more power, better interior, better condition, warrantee, blah blah. If you're considering the Civic it means things like reliability, resale value, drivability, etc matter to you, and those are the things the Civic (from all i've read) will give you. The civic is good enough that there will no longer be an RSX (i don't really want to get into that debate...).
So, get the civic. Sell your 240sx, use the money to pay off the loan/insurance. Be happy with having a car that is 99% to start up and can be repaired under warrantee at your local dealership, that will save you money on gas, and is still fun to drive. Sleep better at night without worrying about finding used parts or dealing with zilvians.
Again, for your situation, this is not hard. Get the civic, it's the car for you. Sell the 240sx to someone who wants it
If you're not 100% into your car, a used 240sx isn't for you. Honest opinion.
drift freaq
11-03-2005, 11:23 AM
Ditto , what option said, basically your already thinking of moving away from the 240sx , which means its a matter of time. If not know, it will be later. You may find yourself coming back to it though. That happens. You have to do it to find out though,because you have already started to go towards the idea of getting rid of the 240sx. In the end your Honda decision is yours and only yours. I would not be buying a new car based on some enthusiasts of the current car you own opinion's. Why? They are biased at best. hahahhahhahah
EchoOfSilence
11-03-2005, 11:24 AM
i second Option's comment
Enjin
11-03-2005, 11:29 AM
good luck not modding the civic... you know you wanna... yeah... dont you... mmmmhmmmmmmm...
they have so much potential... over 200whp on a dyno stock... k series... yeah... plus if youre late for school you can fly over buildings.
TwoFourO
11-03-2005, 11:33 AM
This is so surprising. I was expecting the Si to get flamed for its cost vs. performance aspect in comparison to the 240sx. Option, you are a very wise person and I respect your opinion, but I think that you have underestimated my commitment to my 240sx. This 240sx is EVERYTHING to me, but I think that sticking to the car so emotionally is going to get me into a financially troubling situation with it. I am currently a college student which is why having a reliable car and saving money is important to me. I guess I just feel like my love for the 240sx is blinding me into spending countless dollars on it without thinking about where its going to get me and I'm trying to get away from that, but at the same time I don't want to buy this new car and get rid of the 240sx and then regret it later. Sorry, I'm kind of confusing but I'm kind of confused, haha.
TwoFourO
11-03-2005, 11:37 AM
HAHAHAHHA good point Enjin. I never said I wouldn't mod the Civic, that's definately a must, but I'm apprehensive about ditching the 240 because I am in love. I guess it could kind of be related to a relationship with a female; You have a steady girlfriend you've loved for years and then this hottie comes along that sparks your interest and you think you'd be happier with her but you don't want to leave the one that's been so good to you and still treats you right. What do you do?!? haha
sideview_180sx
11-03-2005, 11:45 AM
Seriously I'd go for getting a T100/Tacoma/Frontier. Something to tow the car to events (if you want) and you won't want to spend the money trying to fix up a truck. Then get a bike, get your speed thrills and save the drifting for the 240.
420sx
11-03-2005, 11:46 AM
why dont you go test drive it first. thats a good start.
wootwoot
11-03-2005, 11:47 AM
What year are you in college? Drain the fluids from the 240, get a nice car cover and garage it. Build it up when you get out of school. Or just make it a track car or something fun where you dont need insurance.
OptionZero
11-03-2005, 11:47 AM
If you're still in college you're probably better off with the Civic- it's must less likely to go down for repairs during midterm season or when you need to go to library/work/school whatever. If you need your car at all for school, get the more reliable school.
It's not worth having a 240sx if you're missing class and screwing up your future.
I missed a midterm because i was playing basketball one time. Don't do that with your car.
ranisron
11-03-2005, 11:56 AM
save the 240sx....
I sold my AE86 for a profit when I was in financial problems couple years back. that was one of the most difficult decisions I had made to date - I still regret about it. I almost cried when the buyer drove away. It seems taht you have a lot of love toward your 240sx, so do what your heart tells you to do and make plans (seriously) accordingly, for example, fix whatever is necessary to keep your 240sx in good shape, not necessary more perf. or more handling. Financial planning is important - I am no expert with it, but I try to be optimistic - the serious mod time for the 240sx will come after graduating from grad school and secure a decent job. For now, keep rocking on whatever I have.
tweek
11-03-2005, 02:54 PM
WRONG WHEEL DRIVE! :rl:
JK
EroGori
11-03-2005, 03:01 PM
I have sold both my ae86's and have 0 regret now that I have moved on to a better car. You can buy another 240 in 2 or 3 years when you graduate from college. If you can afford it, buy the civic. I love my 240, but they are so common that you can walk out in traffic and have a 75% chance of getting hit by one. I'm not going to say 1 car is better than the other, but speaking from a college student perspective i can totally understand you getting the civic. If you don't need the money there is always the option of just putting your S13 in storage for a couple years and coming back to it.
24Dee
11-03-2005, 03:32 PM
If you are sure you aren't strapping yourself financially and are 100% sure you are making a smart decision then I'd say Civic all the way. I'd finance it without the worry of shitty re-sale value.
My personal opinion on the new civic however, is that damn dash board. The second I saw the new SI I fell in love but as soon as I saw that dash I quickly gave up on the idea. That and I would never buy a 1st generation of a new model car.
As for the s14, buy another 240 in a few years when you're financially stable and can afford project.
jd-17
11-03-2005, 03:37 PM
over here in florida i have seen about 3 240's out on the road the only time ive seen more than that was when i was at a 240 meet (go figure)...f=get the civic its worth it as long as its an si
Obviously you can't make a decision yourself, so you're posting here to justify/unjustify your purchase. If I were in your shoes I wouldn't purchase it if I'd have to 2nd guess my desires.
Also, it's FWD.
TwoFourO
11-03-2005, 04:25 PM
I've already made the decision about buying the Si, just curious what everyone else in my situation would do about the 240sx. Most likely it'll go into storage. Also curious about what people think about the new Si as opposed to a 240.
Buffalo Daughter
11-03-2005, 04:29 PM
Obviously you can't make a decision yourself, so you're posting here to justify/unjustify your purchase. If I were in your shoes I wouldn't purchase it if I'd have to 2nd guess my desires.
Also, it's FWD.
great response. Exactly what i would say. If you ask your self and others on whether its a good idea or not its not. IF you want something and you know you want it you get it and have no need to back up what anyone else says about it because you want it.
If your asking me, shit times like these do what you got to do if you got the dough. If you really need a second car just to drive around without fixing it up and all that then fuck it and get it. Who gives a fuck if its a fwd, hybrid or whatever. If its reliable, saves gas and can get you where you need to go i say do it.
SimpleS14
11-03-2005, 04:31 PM
Keep the 240 until you wreck it....then you will have a justified reason to buy the Civic.
TwoFourO
11-03-2005, 06:40 PM
Haha it's funny you said that because someone in an escort nearly killed me about 1/2 an hour ago when I pulled out of my girlfriends neighborhood. He was doing an estimated 80mph up a blind hill...genius. The moron slammed on his brakes and swerved left and right before continuing on...I bet he won't do that again, haha. Anyways, it's been four years and I haven't wrecked it yet, so I'm hoping it's not likely to happen (knock on wood). Well I think it's all been covered now thanks guys. Does anybody have any views on the Civic Si independent of this thread?
wootwoot
11-03-2005, 07:40 PM
If you are going to upgrade anything, why not get the factory tune suspension/exhaust system? It will be under warranty and then you can finance it so its all good
91CRXsiR
11-03-2005, 07:55 PM
S13 is still an old car can't compare it to a new car.. i still wouldnt get a BRAND NEW 06 SI, wait a few months and get it slightly used for a fat discount from some kid whole made a mistake.
or... get a CRX DOHC VTEC and smile =)
aznpoopy
11-03-2005, 10:54 PM
240sx cons: broken stuff
240sx pros: liability only, rwd
civic cons: fwd, full insurance, financing and/or a big dent in your bank account
civic pros: new, warranty
i ended up with a civic daily and a 240 on the side.
I test drove the new Civic Si at the Honda test drive event. I HATE the interior and exterior styling. It looks really ugly. the dash is really wierd, interior materials feel cheap and tacky. the front end looks like someone wacked it and its flat, the rest of the car is huge and bulging like a big potato.
The engine, drivetrain and chasis is excellent. handling on their autocross course is very predictable and the HLSD really works to pull you through corners. The K20A honda wonder motor is pretty good, fast responding linear power. The optional Alpine navigation/stereo is awesome, 10x better than other navi systems out there, it can take SD memory cards for updates and mp3s/videos, play DVD video too.
The Japanese Civic looks better.
http://www.honda.co.jp/CIVIC/style/image/alabastersilver-m.jpg
SimpleS14
11-04-2005, 01:53 PM
^-- Looks like the Canadian Acura CSX.....
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/CanadaCraig/2006CSX01.jpg
skatanic28
11-04-2005, 02:40 PM
if you like the 240....keep it and pick up the honda for dd duty. insurance is only another 200/year for having both cars on the road for me (s14, rsx type s). its nice having a quiet and comfortable car for everyday use, especially if you do a fair amount of driving.
WanganRunner
11-04-2005, 02:47 PM
[QUOTE=EchoOfSilence]FWD. you could have gotten a relatively new Subie for that price./QUOTE]
From what I hear, the Si's are selling for about $21k. You could pretty much get a new Subie for that. Anyone who's paying more than $22k for a brand-new, bare-bones factory ordered '06 WRX is likely getting ripped off.
Anyway, the Civic is still a fun car.
I'd say if the S13 is paid off, keep it, you can never have too many cars.
buy the civic. and keep it forever
I just go a 2006 Civic DX... (with A/C and some other stuff)
I am actually quite surprised of the engine output and the handling. I can't imagine how much the new Si can be. I would get the Civic...
Modern Angel
11-04-2005, 05:52 PM
How does spending ~$20k = saving money for you? I would assume that after 4 years you've already paid off your 240 and have 0 monthly car payments ... So any money you spend on your car would be for repairs and/or upgrades.
Do you spend around $400 a month on repairs and shit for your 240? If not then I can't really see how you'll come out saving money by spending $20k. :confused:
OptionZero
11-04-2005, 06:04 PM
selling the 240sx to pay for the Civic, then better gas mileage, and the civic is probably 2 seconds faster quarter mile wise (if that matters), already has a stock HLSD, anything can be fixed underwarrantee at local dealership, better interior.
SimpleS14
11-04-2005, 07:40 PM
better interior.
better material maybe...but horrid design. IMO
enen11
11-08-2005, 06:59 PM
anybody know if the design of the new Civic SI has any similarities to the Honda Fit Sedan? I noticed the bodylines are very similar to each other...i haven't had much time to research anything about the Fit
Ess14
11-08-2005, 07:51 PM
I love my 240, but they are so common that you can walk out in traffic and have a 75% chance of getting hit by one.
Interesting comment... especially when were talking 240 vs Civic...
SimpleS14
11-08-2005, 11:13 PM
anybody know if the design of the new Civic SI has any similarities to the Honda Fit Sedan? I noticed the bodylines are very similar to each other...i haven't had much time to research anything about the Fit
Fit is a smaller car, more like a small and tall car with a 5-door variant. I've seen the car before at HIN and I don't see any simliarities to the new Civic. Expect the Fit over here soon to compete with the Yaris and Versa.
dudocius
11-09-2005, 11:40 AM
honestly this thread makes no sense, if you are a college student means that like me, you are short of money. why buy a new car when you will be paying the interest, loan, insurance (sport car, uhm more $$$) as soon as you drive off the lot you loose its original value. why not keep a car you dont have to make payments on. i prefer to spend 400 on a daily driver in maintainance every 2-3 months than paying 400 every month.
upSLIDEdown
11-09-2005, 12:06 PM
Go ahead and sell the 240... You'll be back... <evil grin> Personally, I've had my 240 for 5 years now, and I will never get rid of it. I bought a 4x4 Sidekick 2 dr convertible with a hardtop for gettin my around in the snow, and any other time I don't wanna drive the 240. I don't think I'd ever buy a NEW car unless I just had tons of $$$ to blow. The off-the-lot depreciation is horrid.
Bryan
MadScientist
11-09-2005, 12:13 PM
OK... here is my pennies.
I have had a S14 Kouki since 99... and a Hatch for a short time... My girlfriend has a 2001 Civic EX she purchassed New... only because she didn't like the Si at that time. Now she HATES her car because there is little she can do with out blowing a huge amount for very little in return... therefore in December when the 2006 Si is available here she is trading in the 2001.
I have driven the 2001 for some time and its actually very fun to drive a FF... I like Grip and the car is very stiff and reactive (for stock). Now the New 2006 Si is suppost to be stiffer, Double the HP to her current, and has a HLSD, 17s, and that awsome K20 powerplant... is it worth it in her case... YES!
I agree with 2006 as Daily (Full coverage) and S13 as Weekend Warrior/ Project Track Whore (Liability)... should be about $200-250/ month.
Peace
Drew
OptionZero
11-09-2005, 12:19 PM
At this point I gotta question:
Does original poster track at all? Go to events? If the answer is no, then having the 240sx as a "project car" is absolutely piontless, especially given that money is a large concern.
FlyingChicken
11-10-2005, 03:50 PM
What the Heck????
I thought this was Zilvia.net ..not Honda Civic Loser Lovers.net
Forget about the Civic. People who are poor and need money do not buy
brand new grocery getters. Gas price differences will not justify the means.
The 240 is awesome awesome. It was really a car that was ahead of its time, especially in Japan (sr20det).
Why do you want to pay 500 bucks a month for car loan payments and insurance when you can just keep your 240 and drive it? Its more fun and cheaper than buying a new car.
Dont sell out!
What the Heck????
I thought this was Zilvia.net ..not Honda Civic Loser Lovers.net
Forget about the Civic. People who are poor and need money do not buy
brand new grocery getters. Gas price differences will not justify the means.
The 240 is awesome awesome. It was really a car that was ahead of its time, especially in Japan (sr20det).
Why do you want to pay 500 bucks a month for car loan payments and insurance when you can just keep your 240 and drive it? Its more fun and cheaper than buying a new car.
Dont sell out!
From what i've seen on Zilvia, people stick to their ideals and turn their backs on logic and reasoning. This being a refreshing change from that..i'd have to disagree with you here.
Sell out on what? It's just a crappy 15 year old car that's hyped up by teenagers. Get over it.
I thought this was Zilvia.net ..not Honda Civic Loser Lovers.net
this is very clever
FlyingChicken
11-10-2005, 04:06 PM
I agree that it is 15 years old actually 16. I agree that it has been hyped up a lot. I agree that a lot of teenagers buy it.
I dont agree that it is crappy!!
the 180sx body style ended in 98. Only 7 years ago. It still pretty stylish to me. It especially rocks if you put in a sr20det
Long Live the 240sx!
Dont sell out and buy a civic!!! your only moving slower!
Sell out on what? It's just a crappy 15 year old car that's hyped up by teenagers. Get over it.
Heck, I would sell my 240sx to get a newer car, not hype by the common teenager.. ;)
Dont sell out and buy a civic!!! your only moving slower!
197HP 06 Civic Si vs 155HP old TooSlowTy SX.
I am sorry, a 240sx, is slow in it's stock form. Bushings are worn out. Parts are worn out. SR20DET swaps are overhyped. SR20DETs aren't even that great of a motor. Blow a few, you'll understand.
TwoFourO
11-10-2005, 04:19 PM
Hey guys, I'm getting the civic and keeping the 240 to make it my track machine. End of story, no more debating. Tomorrow I am depositing an insurance settlement check for 27,000 dollars....muahahha. I'll be investing the money to pay for student loans by the time I graduate and using a small amount of it to turbo the Si. I'll be using my normal income from work to pay rent, utilities, car payment, and insurance. My student loans will cover books, tuition, and food. Pay the loans later, trade in the civic after the warrantly expires, etc.
Life is grand when you're loaded...
I agree that it is 15 years old actually 16. I agree that it has been hyped up a lot. I agree that a lot of teenagers buy it.
I dont agree that it is crappy!!
the 180sx body style ended in 98. Only 7 years ago. It still pretty stylish to me. It especially rocks if you put in a sr20det
Long Live the 240sx!
Dont sell out and buy a civic!!! your only moving slower!
The car is pretty crappy..but i still love em for what they are. They are nowhere near what people hype them up to be. Stylish? not in stock form. The only stylish s13 to me was the factory Type x in Japan. Otherwise you're looking at body kits and rims to make it look good. NE ways...not to COMPLETELY degrade it. THey're alright.
dizbjello
11-10-2005, 04:26 PM
http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/6889/large19fd.jpg
http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/4724/dcp93961de.jpg
Just my opinion.
FlyingChicken
11-10-2005, 04:43 PM
my eyes are burning from all those civic pics.
Ive blown my own sr motor on the dyno. rocker arm popped out and had bent some valves even (bad news). I still love the 240.
The loud low frequency growl of the my rwd sr21det (bored out) is one of the nicest things ive ever heard. That in itself is my reason to stick with the 240.
Granted that ive never heard the new civic WOT but if its like the other high revving b series motors, it wont sound that great.
I guess if you like to buy groceries/street race with saturns, buy a 200hp civic.
If you like track/drift events, then 240!!
TwoFourO
11-10-2005, 04:47 PM
Or simply have both.
SimpleS14
11-10-2005, 04:53 PM
197HP 06 Civic Si vs 155HP old TooSlowTy SX.
I am sorry, a 240sx, is slow in it's stock form. Bushings are worn out. Parts are worn out. SR20DET swaps are overhyped. SR20DETs aren't even that great of a motor. Blow a few, you'll understand.
Coming from a man with experience. :D
FlyingChicken - Way too bias...but meh.
edit: congrats on coming to a conclusion.
wootwoot
11-10-2005, 05:31 PM
Dont turbo it you frickin joker, thats going to ruin every reason you said to get it....*sigh*
240silvia
11-10-2005, 05:50 PM
the new civic is garbage! Expensive as hell.... for a slow ass car, that looks like a SATURN!!!!! Keep away for the civic!!!!! Unless you want to get out of the whole "fixing up the car" thing. I just don't see spending that much on a civic.... But, that's just me...
See what i mean guys. Blind as a bat. Idealism wins here ^^
"I just don't see spending that much on a civic."
AllenRPS13
11-10-2005, 06:11 PM
just keep the 240...civic daily
+1 for keep the 240, civic daily
driftyour40
11-10-2005, 07:28 PM
i just went through this with the idea of getting an sti but my car now is almost paid off and I will enjoy having extra cash and not having a car payment. To second guess your self is natural when your not moving forward with a project but if you take a step back and look at it you knew it wasn't going to be what you dreamed it to be in a few days so enjoy the car for what it is a rolling reflection of you and your financial status lol besides 300 a month car payment plus insurance is going to kill me not sure about you. The sti had 450 hp on 15lbs of boost and was the fastest thing I have ever driven. That's why I wanted it then I started thinking that I love my car I didn't buy 2 of them for no reason. If I do get rid of my s14 it will be after I'm done with it, because I want to Finnish what I started.
axiomatik
11-10-2005, 09:44 PM
Dont turbo it you frickin joker, thats going to ruin every reason you said to get it....*sigh*
+1
To me, the #1 reason to buy a brand new car is te warranty, turboing it will void that reason. just enjoy the n/a goodness of the civic, leave the turbo to the 240
OptionZero
11-10-2005, 10:54 PM
retards.
Let me explain this whole fuckin thread, ok?
The 240sx is an old car lacking in many areas. Bringing its performance up to par requires COMMITMENT, work, money, effort, time. It's not a car for someone who's going to question whether or not to keep the car. Truly, if you have to ask, get rid of it- its not for you.
This particular poster needs a car that is LESS trouble some, and presumably something still "sporty", because of whatever urges he has. He's also going to college, so downtime from a car is detrimental so his actual life (u know, learning, building a career, etc?).
The Civic Si is faster in a straight line, faster around a corner, comes brand spankin' new, fixable, reliable, better mileage. It is not a worrisome car, you get in you drive it, you park it, you're done. You don't worry about your next upgrade because it doesn't need it. It comes stock with superior performance, and don't give me any bullshit about being expensive, you won't get a helical differential and 200+ HP and a smooth tranny in any other 20k car, much less a Honda-backed one with the associated build quality and reliability.
Why the fuck you put a turbo is beyond me, those people are the people who upgrade solely for the sake of putting parts on a car, with no thought to actually driving or using them. Shut the FUCK up.
New cars are NOT the same as used cars, if you were into "modifying" cars, you'd ALWAYS start with used...the piont here is to NOT have to worry about what to put next in your internet signature mod list.
RiversideS13
11-10-2005, 11:58 PM
what about TC? cheaper and insurance might have better rate. i believe the stolen rate will not be as high as civic (camry 2.4L motor are everywhere) yet toyota reliability rocks. I am thinking about to get a TC or XB or Matrix as reliable daily drive and use my 240sx as pleasure car.
but if you insist to buy civic si, +1 for keep it as much stock as possible.
alexchanman
11-11-2005, 12:07 AM
oh man, for the price of the new 06 si, you can get a used 20th Anniversary GTI. comes with TURBO!!! and since its a euro car, it has a smaller chance of getting stolen. some food for thought.
http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/1051/1266145vu.th.jpg (http://img475.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1266145vu.jpg)
TurDz
11-11-2005, 06:31 AM
oh man, for the price of the new 06 si, you can get a used 20th Anniversary GTI. comes with TURBO!!! and since its a euro car, it has a smaller chance of getting stolen. some food for thought.
http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/1051/1266145vu.th.jpg (http://img475.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1266145vu.jpg)
then you have VW electronic reliability...
no matter what you say...a honda is still a honda (i.e. reliable)
skatanic28
11-11-2005, 07:26 AM
good to hear you made a decision. doesnt that have the same high-comp k20 as the rsx? i'd be careful with boosting an 11:1 motor if you expect reliability.
it seems like a lot of people over-hype the 200 hp of these motors. its just a peak number. everywhere else in the powerband, you are looking at ~140 ftlbs. quick by no means until 6k rpm.
FlyingChicken
11-11-2005, 11:00 AM
the first thing i would do to the new civic is to put a sr20det (awd) motor in it!!!!!!!
OptionZero
11-11-2005, 02:55 PM
the tC is a piece of shit, it has the Camry's base model engine and NO LSD.
The Civic Si engine is a variation of the K-series used in the Type-R in Japan, and responds well whether it's N/A'd or turbo, which is not the point of this anyways.
Although HP numbers come at high RPMs, that is counteracted by a well-matched gearbox. Case in point, the NSX and S2000, and presumably the type-R's have some of the best shifting trannys today. Never heard anyone say otherwise.
wootwoot
11-11-2005, 03:23 PM
yay! a 20th anniversary GTi! That means you get no lsd, a very overweight platform, and a plague of demons!
If you are going to buy the 06 SI then turbo it......What the f are you thinking? Does that not negate the entire thing?
OptionZero
11-11-2005, 08:00 PM
for the guy that said the civic si looks like a saturn; the 240sx FB looks like a probe, the jdm s13 silvia front looks like a 2nd gen integra, the zenki s14 looks like a camry; and the kouki looks like a JDM 3rd gen integra or 5th gen accord w/ black housings
SimpleS14
11-11-2005, 08:07 PM
Can we let this thread die already.....
MrBrightSide
11-11-2005, 09:39 PM
how about the 06 type-s?
OptionZero
11-11-2005, 09:48 PM
no LSD, more expensive cuz its an acura.
TwoFourO
11-12-2005, 09:33 PM
I don't plan on turboing the Si until the 50K/5yr powertrain warranty expires. Sorry to not clarify that. The 240 is going to continue to be my project car, the only difference is that it won't be my daily driver as well. There: End of story, end of thread.
wootwoot
11-12-2005, 09:54 PM
El Locko!..................
sleeperella
11-13-2005, 05:03 PM
get da si, and stfu! keep da 240 if u want, just make up ur damn mind and stfu.. cheese... im in turmoil myself, it been over 2 months now, and car still up on block, can't do it when u have to drive to college every week and only come back on the weekend to work on her.. college is a b*tch and what's worst is that u can't concentrate... and live the college life, always thinking bout home and what u'r missing out as she sits on blocks.. no go, no drift, ....
SimpleS14
11-13-2005, 05:08 PM
This thread was done on page 2.
wootwoot
11-13-2005, 10:39 PM
get da si, and stfu! keep da 240 if u want, just make up ur damn mind and stfu.. cheese... im in turmoil myself, it been over 2 months now, and car still up on block, can't do it when u have to drive to college every week and only come back on the weekend to work on her.. college is a b*tch and what's worst is that u can't concentrate... and live the college life, always thinking bout home and what u'r missing out as she sits on blocks.. no go, no drift, ....
You go to college?...
publicenemy137
11-13-2005, 10:52 PM
You go to college?...
he goes to a, "special" college :mepoke:
drift freaq
11-14-2005, 12:27 AM
mods please lock this thread it outlasted its usefulness on the first page.
TwoFourO
04-01-2006, 02:44 PM
Just to update(although it's entirely uneccessary I know) I ended up getting the Si. I haven't looked back since. The 240sx is fully insured and sits at my parents house where it awaits my graduation and financial stability after college. My car payments are 500 dollars a month for the Si, but it's 110% worth it. Adapting to a FWD car has been interesting, but I've really gotten the hang of it. The Si drives amazingly, and is a blast to drive. I drove the 240sx after it sat for 4 months and I still miss the handling response and gliding feel that it provides. Nothing will ever take the place of my 240sx. I guess all I wanted to reiterate with posting this thread is that I did get the Si, and that even though it's an amazing piece of machinery and I would never take back the decision I've made, I find myself longing to drive the 240sx nearly every day. Too bad it's 75 miles away... :*(
Thanks to those who bitched and flamed and whatnot, it was helpful in some ways. I love you zilvians I miss you!
alexchanman
04-01-2006, 09:31 PM
good choice of getting. how is it treating you?
TwoFourO
04-02-2006, 05:09 AM
Its Sex on Wheels. That's all I have to say. I still love my 240sx more though just cause it's my o-g car.
S14DB
04-02-2006, 06:56 AM
Just to update(although it's entirely uneccessary I know) I ended up getting the Si. I haven't looked back since. The 240sx is fully insured and sits at my parents house where it awaits my graduation and financial stability after college. My car payments are 500 dollars a month for the Si, but it's 110% worth it. Adapting to a FWD car has been interesting, but I've really gotten the hang of it. The Si drives amazingly, and is a blast to drive. I drove the 240sx after it sat for 4 months and I still miss the handling response and gliding feel that it provides. Nothing will ever take the place of my 240sx. I guess all I wanted to reiterate with posting this thread is that I did get the Si, and that even though it's an amazing piece of machinery and I would never take back the decision I've made, I find myself longing to drive the 240sx nearly every day. Too bad it's 75 miles away... :*(
Thanks to those who bitched and flamed and whatnot, it was helpful in some ways. I love you zilvians I miss you!
I guess this is done since you have the car and there is only flames left.
Moved to OT where is should have been started.
Have fun when the 06 Mods start coming out and you start jonesin for them.
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