Difference between LSD and VLSD

[Omega47]

Ok im new,just got a 240 coupe with and open diff,i want to get a pumpkin,but i am confused,i hear there is a difference between lsd and vlsd,if this is true what is it?
I SEARCHED AND FOUND NO HELP,KEEP NEGATIVE COMMENTS TO YOURSELVES

[TurDz]

It's not a negative comment, but maybe you should try to use google or yahoo search engines?

First and foremost, you should read this:

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/differential.htm

It has a basic description of the LSDs you are talking about. When people here refer to "LSD", they usually mean the clutch-type variation (info can be found on the 6th or so page of the website above).

Please learn to search before postion about the mechanics of basic car parts. Once you know their function, you can refine your search with more specific terms.

[SochBAT]

WEE!!! More noobs that have inferior searching skills.

VLSD runs on viscous fluid, locking up when warmed.

LSD runs on clutch/gears. Upon increased torque, it locks up.

Torsen types, helical types, viscous types, weldicous types.

Out of all types, weldicious are the best. :wiggle:

As stated in other posts:
Open < VLSD/Weld < LSD

[RedSuns]

I love how everyone has hoped on the "search noob" bandwagon..just take 5 minutes out of you extremely busy day to answer the guys question politely.

[kandyflip445]

WEE!!! More noobs that have inferior searching skills.

VLSD runs on viscous fluid, locking up when warmed.

LSD runs on clutch/gears. Upon increased torque, it locks up.

Torsen types, helical types, viscous types, weldicous types.

Out of all types, weldicious are the best. :wiggle:

As stated in other posts:
Open < VLSD/Weld < LSD

Technically a welded diff isn't a LSD because it isn't Limited Slip. It's completely locked. :fawk:

[adoboboy]

Technically a welded diff isn't a LSD because it isn't Limited Slip. It's completely locked. :fawk:

Yeah...when you go to make a U-turn...your tires will screech, LSD's won't.
Welded diff = Po' man's "LSD" =)

[PROJECTRB240SX]

Yeah...when you go to make a U-turn...your tires will screech, LSD's won't.
Welded diff = Po' man's "LSD" =)

THATS NOT TRUE.... A 2-WAY LSD WITH HIGH BREAKAWAY TORQUE WILL ACT LIKE A LOCKED DIFF AND MAKE YOUR TIRES SQUEAL.

THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT LSDS WITH PROS AND CONS TO EACH.

HLSD: HELICAL STYLE (TORSEN, QUAIFFE, ATB, ETC.) ALLOWS MORE WHEEL SLIPPAGE BUT ALLOWS FOR BETTER TURN-IN AND A REDUCTION IN SNAP OVERSTEER UNDER MID CORNER LOAD. THIS IS OPERATED THROUGH HELICAL CUT GEARS.... IT USES A SUN GEAR WITH FOR ROTATIONAL PLANET GEARS

VLSD: VISCOUS LSD (NISSAN STOCK) ALLOWS FOR INCREASE WHEEL SLIP BEFORE ENGAGEMENT BUT THE BEST COMPROMISE BETWEEN STREETABILITY AND PERFORMANCE. THIS USES A VISCOUS FLUID BETWEEN CLUTCH PLATES THAT IS HEATED THROUGH SHEARING FORCE. ONCE THIS FLUID IS HOT ENOUGH IT BECOMES DENSE AND STICKY GRABBING THE CLUTCH PLATES AND LOCKING THEM TOGETHER.

CLSD: MOST COMMON CLUTCH STYLE (NISMO, POWERBRUTE, TOMEI, KAAZ, ETC.) HAS THE LEAST SLIPPAGE AND MOST CONTROL OF LOCK-UP. THIS STYLE USES CLUTCHES SANDWHICHED BETWEEN PRESSURE PLATES (LIKE A MULTIDISC CLUTCH) THAT HAVE NOTCHES IN THEM... WHEN THESE CLUTCH PACKS TURN IN AN OPPOSING DIRECTION THE NOTCHS INTERLOCK MAKING THEM ROTATE IN UNISON. THESE SETUPS ARE THE MOST ADJUSTABLE ALLOWING FOR 1, 1.5, OR 2 WAY ENGAGEMENT AND VARIOUS BREAKAWAY TORQUES.

[NemeGuero]

Ok im new,just got a 240 coupe with and open diff,i want to get a pumpkin,but i am confused,i hear there is a difference between lsd and vlsd,if this is true what is it?
I SEARCHED AND FOUND NO HELP,KEEP NEGATIVE COMMENTS TO YOURSELVES

Keep stupid questions to yourself.. the difference between the VLSD and LSD is the V.

[SochBAT]

I love how everyone has hoped on the "search noob" bandwagon..just take 5 minutes out of you extremely busy day to answer the guys question politely.
I'm DAMN sure if i were to have searched, i would have answered my own question. Some people just suck at searching, and give up, expecting Zilvians to spoon feed them. AND this question is covered basically WEEKLY! Now if the original poster would have taken HIS 5 minutes from his nooobish day to properly search, we wouldn't have this conversation. So let me reiterate and regurgitate this.
I love how everyone is teaching him to fish, rather than give him salmon. Original poster, just take 5 minutes out of you extremely busy day to research your tired and throughly covered question.



Technically a welded diff isn't a LSD because it isn't Limited Slip. It's completely locked. :fawk:

It is limited slip! No slip at all!!! :wackit: WELDICOUS TYPES!!!

And while it is ghetto, it gets the job done, and most people pushing welded diffs swear by its awesomeness on the track. Daily sucks with it.

[RedSuns]

I'm DAMN sure if i were to have searched, i would have answered my own question. Some people just suck at searching, and give up, expecting Zilvians to spoon feed them. AND this question is covered basically WEEKLY! Now if the original poster would have taken HIS 5 minutes from his nooobish day to properly search, we wouldn't have this conversation. So let me reiterate and regurgitate this.



would you rather answer a specific question and recieve the exact answer....or try to dig through many pages of shit that just beats around the bush....


man I wish this place was back to what it used to be :sadwavey:

[NemeGuero]

with a question as common as the difference between VLSD and LSD, it's a bit annoying..

HOWSTUFFWORKS.COM has all kinds of info and if he would have google'd it or even tried searching Zilvia with the tiniest bit of thinking, he would have found it

we aren't here to hold people's hands and introduce them all to the basics, time after time after time

[TurDz]

would you rather answer a specific question and recieve the exact answer....or try to dig through many pages of shit that just beats around the bush....


man I wish this place was back to what it used to be :sadwavey:


I know this isn't the best and friendliest car community, but the original poster didn't even know the difference between LSDs. This is just basic information that really does not belong in the tech talk forum, and the reason I posted the Howstuffworks link was to show him how easy it is to use google.

And his question is specific, but it is extremely basic. The information he is looking for is not easy to find on Zilvia because it is practically common sense knowledge to a the average performance car owner.

I really don't mind helping at all, but people do have to think for themselves. It's like starting a math problem, trying the basic steps to solve it then give up on the first try.

For those who have had a college experience, it's like going to your professor's office hours and saying, "teach me everything there is to know about ______." It's extremely more effective to learn about the topic yourself, then, when you have specific questions, go to office hours.

In this case, if he found a more specific question about LSDs, the search function becomes very effective. (i.e. terms like "clutch LSD", "vlsd swap")

[SochBAT]

would you rather answer a specific question and recieve the exact answer....or try to dig through many pages of shit that just beats around the bush....


man I wish this place was back to what it used to be :sadwavey:

I prefer doing the search, and rummaging through pages and pages of useful information. Its a REALLY good way of learning, besides hands on. You pick up useful information, get the answer you wanted, learn a bunch of new things, AND not waste bandwidth. 2 Birds with one stone.

Should i really bring up fishing again?

[Omega47]

Its amazing,some hate people like me cause i want a straight forward answer to a question ,yet they take the time to reply to the dumb thread,anyway thanks for those who answered,and i wont run a welded diff,thats truely half assed.
Anyway thanks again to the chosen few who haev grown up.

[NemeGuero]

hahah, "who have grown up?" you still expect us to hand you everything..

be a big boy and do a little research and find out the difference! you don't even have to get off your ass, just browse the web. it's all right there for you.

[Bastardizeds13.4]

Dude there is absolutely ZERO need for u to be and A%* hole when responding to his "newbs" inquisition!!!! I'm new to the whole professional(granted I've been doin it on back roads and gravel parking lots and wet streets in my raggedy ass 90 z32 for 3 yrs) drifting scene for years mow and I'm still learning the exact technical basics of drifting and what technical differences separate what kinda of drifter to other kind if drifters. Now the whole reason for becoming part of any online forum sight if to show off what you have done an what knowledge your have gained by your experianxea thought the feels which ever foru
Sight u decisetp joined's site if focused upon, obviously u have been driftng for a while other wise you wouldn't so pompously suggest that the newb do his own hone work and k can respect ur time served I n his field and give u ur dues where yet are due,BUT this isn't a bash aight for u to exemplify ur drifting dominance over Meir pions of the drifting world who are simply exploring the drifting world and what all it's about by visiting the zilvia web site in the first place and Dude there is absolutely ZERO need for u to be and A%* hole when responding to his "newbs" inquisition!!!! I'm new to the whole professional(granted I've been doin it on back roads and gravel parking lots and wet streets in my raggedy ass 90 z32 for 3 yrs) drifting scene for years mow and I'm still learning the exact technical basics of drifting and what technical differences separate what kinda of drifter to other kind if drifters. Now the whole reason for becoming part of any online forum sight if to show off what you have done an what knowledge your have gained by your experianxea thought the feels which ever foru
Sight u decisetp joined's site if focused upon, obviously u have been driftng for a while other wise you wouldn't so pompously suggest that the newb do his own hone work and k can respect ur time served I n his field and give u ur dues where yet are due,BUT this isn't a bash aight for u to exemplify ur drifting dominance over Meir pions of the drifting world who are simply exploring the drifting world and what all it's about by visiting the zilvia web site in the first place and

[Bastardizeds13.4]

getting harassed by ur condescending @$$ when the place a simple question about what kinda rear ends are even available in thearket to ur and how they work. Heck their single purchase(based on your constructive informative response throughout this very highly reviewed web sight in the drifting community) might just complete the deciding financial transaction that determine whethere your hobbie and passion( much the same as mine, other that creating an account just to roast the roaster ;(... ) even has the ability to continue through the sansa of time and further it's existence thought this world and continue to bring the pleasure and joy it brings to every "newb" and ancient "vet" that has, does, and ever will exist on this web site......... So long story short dude, chill the #%^* out and do ur service to the drifting sport my answering mine and the "newbs" question and further prolong OUR passion by creating he next best drifter by informing him of what he needs to know today by answering his question today ok?! And prolly answering my question tommorrow that will inform me just he right

[Bastardizeds13.4]

anount of knowledge to out drift ur @$$ ;);)


So in a nut shell there's my drunken( yes in d
Pretty darn tipsy cuz I don't have med insurance and I've got strepp throat to mr jack Daniels Is my bff at the moment( also my lagit excuse for my hellasious muss types in sure... Other that the iPhone4 auto correct)

[Bastardizeds13.4]

Synopsis on why small penis syndrome pri<€s like ur self shouldn't take the oppourtunities to roast "newbs" on silly questions in a effort to make up for being picked on so much in highschool. This sight gets popular and indirectly makes the creator money( which helps him/ she keep it goin which indirectly fuels all of our passions)by proofing the entire online community with more and more real world accurate information a
On drifting and what it's all about, from hands on direct responses of indirect responses from loosers who mentally copy and paste info from D1 magazine on here thought their free user name... Which is prolly not far from the exact character type I would pin ur condicenting self as... So keep ur negative and demeaning comments To ur self sir and just simply atick to the Age oldsayinf... If u don't "have n e thing gol to say, just do t say it!" anehatbi said did some good by helping u not run off newbs that contribute to the over all growth of the sport on the long run ;)

[Bastardizeds13.4]

Wow I just reread that and realized how drunk my strepp throat self is/ how much I need to work with my iphone4 auto text still lmao!!!!!! Long story short don't be a d*ck to the newbS, they determine what's in store for the future for this sport both u and I love here in the future ;) oh and I'm still a newb ish btw! So thanks for teaching me
Nothing other than how to proof read my drunken posts!!!!!

[Bastardizeds13.4]

Oh Thx PROJECTRB240SX for so maturely and accurately answering the question I searched on gloogle An indirectly( and drunkenly I might add to excuse my crucial mistypes lol) found this websight and became a member of. Ur knowledge has been very help full and I appreciate ur input greatly!

[fliprayzin240sx]

You do fucking realize that this fucking thread is over 5 yrs old right?!?!

[kanekoa28]

lmao 5 years late man

[karl wasabi]

hahaha. Was this guy searching for old threads to reply to or something? I lol'ed at his drunken ass responses. I got 2 sentences in and quit. lol.

[nissanfreak317]

so much win.

[STEEZxIT]

WOW. and i thought that guy was making ALOT of sense. LMFAO.

[MrChow]

stop bumping this plz.. Let this dumb ass threat die...

[tacoman35]

Five years later I found this thread too! Only I'm not drunk; but hey still funny. So how about a joke I didn't come up with?

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A man walks into a bar and orders three beers.

The bartender brings him the three beers, and the man proceeds to alternately sip one, then the other, then the third, until they're gone.

He then orders three more and the bartender says, "Sir, I know you like them cold, so you can start with one, and I'll bring you a fresh one as soon as you're low."

The man says, "You don't understand. I have two brothers, one in Australia and one in the Ireland. We made a vow to each other that every Saturday night, we'd still drink together. So right now, my brothers have three beers, too, and we're drinking together."

The bartender thinks it's a wonderful tradition, and every week he sets up the guy's three beers. Then one week, the man comes in and orders only two. He drinks them and then orders two more. The bartender says sadly, "Knowing your tradition, I'd just like to just say that I'm sorry you've lost a brother."

The man replies, "Oh, my brothers are fine -- I just quit drinking."

[brndck]

/\/\/\/\/\/\ normally I'd give you shit for posting in an ancient thread, but that joke was full of lulz. Carry on.