View Full Version : Red Top or Black Top?
Iceman
04-24-2002, 05:25 PM
Well sorry for the mistakes earlier i'm new here. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>
Umm what is the diffrence between the sr20det black top and red top? I have no idea
Like i said i'm new here
AceInHole
04-24-2002, 05:27 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Iceman @ April 23 2002,7:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well sorry for the mistakes earlier i'm new here. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>
Umm what is the diffrence between the sr20det black top and red top? I have no idea
Like i said i'm new here</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
look around on
http://www.heavythrottle.com
http://www.unstable-hybrids.com
or do a search on http://www.google.com
whateverjames
04-24-2002, 05:31 PM
<a href="http://srswap.com/faq_specs.htm" target='_blank'>http://srswap.com/faq_specs.htm</a>
spicy_chicken
04-25-2002, 05:12 AM
do you want the black top from the type-x 180sx or the black tops from the silvia s-14 /s-15...i have a silvia s-14 cwith the black top sr20det and i like it better than my red top sileighty sr20det....it all depends on what you want to do with your car also....
whateverjames
04-25-2002, 05:11 PM
spicy chicken, how does the blacktop SR "feel" compared to the redtop? is it worth the extra grand for a swap to have the variable timing and t28 ball bearing turbo? i'm having the swap done in two months and i need to make up my mind quick.
nrcooled
04-25-2002, 05:28 PM
I would like to know myself. I want to know if I made the right decision w/ the redtop I plan on upgrading my turbo to a t28 later on to get more life
silviasichigo
04-25-2002, 06:03 PM
whatever
This is my experiance from owning both. I love my Black top a lot better than the red top. The feel is different when you take off in higher gears. I will be going down the Highway with my Blacktop in 5th punch it and it will put my head into the seat. I do the same thing with the redtop and it is just slightly different. I have so far put a black top T28 on the red top (I got it for $200) and I have the same boost controller for both. as you know the Blacktop is more powerful but the weight makes up for the difference but not by much. I suggest you get a blacktop just for the fact it is a little newer than the red top. I am boosting 1.0Kg/cm2 with no problem no detonation no leaning out with the black top. The red top is still at 0.8Kg/cm2. This is just my thought on it. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>
junia
04-30-2002, 01:00 PM
what did you do? put a S14 turbo on your wife's car? I like the redtop myself because I didn't have a blacktop. Plus I just take the price difference and dump it into parts to upgrade the engine. Unless you have injectors from a S15 I wouldn't boost too high in a sr20. You're injectors are running close to 100 percent capacity and when they fail........You remember what happened to Mario's engine. Anyway I took the engine apart and there was a hole on top of the piston about the size of a 100yen coin and and the walls weren't too pretty either.
S13CRAVE
04-30-2002, 03:38 PM
yeah, i agree with junia. if you take the price difference and add upgrades you will have a better off engine than a stock black top from and s14. that is what i plan to do and it should kick major ass.
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