This Is 100% *****************

[racer98]

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/05/576.asp


:axe: :wtf:

[!Zar!]

Good thing I don't have hella stickers, large spoiler, excessively loud exhaust, and I'm not asian. whee~

[Rod1]

OMG!!!! thats soooo ghey! fuck cali...and that asian part...fuckin fast and the furious and damn street racers fuck it up for everybody...

[sw20>>s14]

thats fuckin rediculous...i am so offended by that asian part...they spent $5 million dollars? fuckin retards...i was pissed enough when i heard that cops dont have to measure the dbs anymore..."a law enforcement officers judgement"...yeah im sure the piercings, and yellow skin wont blur the cops "judgement."...ive always respected law enforcement...fuck, im even thinking about being one...but this is just the most retarded thing evar!!!! makes me lose respect for them each time i hear something like this...catch people for street racing, side showing, whatever...but dont catch the innocent safe ones like us that are just driving to fucking work! damn...

[FaLKoN240]

That's dumb, and if you ask me, that's straight up PROFILING. Which equals ILLEGAL.

[racer98]

..."a law enforcement officers judgement"...


Since when :bowrofl:

FUCKING FLAMING

[racer98]

god dam chp

we have some mofo shooting at people on the god dam freeways in so cal they have not caught any one and they start with shit like this

Like the rap song said "***************"

[IGSDann]

Yet another reason I'm glad to live as far away from California as possible.

[SpeedMonkeyInc]

Wonder why their doing it? Street racing has been on the decline.

"....generated significant revenue for the California Highway Patrol and local departments."

[ALTRNTV]

caliFUCKINGfornia

Makes me not want to do my KA-T anymore..

[CaoBoY]

and its going to mainly be targeted at imports too. almost a guarantee that muscle cars, trucks, street bikes, etc. will probably not get targeted by this. this is so gay.

[infinitexsound]

u know im not gonna say anything but, how about them apples?

[Ritz S14]

-Man, I got a DWA again.

What's a DWA?

-Driving while Asian.

Taking it to court probably wouldn't make a damn difference either. Judges wont be on our side.

[sdtouge]

drag net has been around for a while. dont street race and youll be fine.

[ALTRNTV]

drag net has been around for a while. dont street race and youll be fine.

It's not really targeted at street racing. It's targeted at "racer looking" cars. Alot of us here have exhausts, aero kits, turbo, etc. that definitely put us in that category.

Looks like I'll be buying an RSR Ex-Mag.

:madfawk:

[dvdevo]

It's not really targeted at street racing. It's targeted at "racer looking" cars. Alot of us here have exhausts, aero kits, turbo, etc. that definitely put us in that category.

Looks like I'll be buying an RSR Ex-Mag.

:madfawk:


u'd probably get a ticket for that too, i had the older one(invida) and its visually noticeable that its not stock.

[ALTRNTV]

Well, they were saying that excessive exhaust noise was the number one reason they gave tickets, not necessarily non-stock looking exhausts.

[Sil-Abc]

we need to start a petition or something cuz its not fair to daily enthusiasts who like to work on cars and get tickets. This is mainly for street racing purposes and they ASSUME and catagorize us as street racers. Its hella unfair and i want to do something about it instead of sitting down and doing nothing so they can treat us like assholes

[Andrew Bohan]

so it says cracking down on modified vehicles, not just illegally modified vehicles. cool

[ALTRNTV]

^

Haha. I wish.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Shiet I already got harassed for that in Fairfield. Cop pulled me over for my exhaust. I got a FL tag but he still hassled me for it. Eventually, being in the military saved my ass. I mean honestly tho, if i get popped for my car, what jurisdiction would cali have on my car when my car is not registered in this damn state? Only thing imposed on me is to pass a smog test to get my damn base sticker which doesnt even fly cuz im still running my last base Department of Defense sticker from NJ. If they tell me that i have to follow the CVC to the book...i might as well buy another car cuz my car is as ILLEGAL as it can get in cali. 5% limo tint, blitz exhaust, big ass blitz fmic saying blitz with bumper cut out and a SR20det in it.

I mean what justifies me to be a cali resident??? they keep throwing that bullshiet in my face. "youre in cali now so you have to follow cali codes" i mean i can understand the tints and exhaust but smog? I got no smog in my state. Am I really a cali resident when i dont pay CALI STATE TAX and I DONT VOTE IN THIS STATE???

Also...WTF. This shiet is pinned on imports. Like said before...what domestics dont street race too??? How fuckin hypocritical is that??? Its just soo damn ironic that every single time that i got pulled over for my blitz exhaust since i got back to cali *my last count was 4 in the last 2 yrs* there just seems to be a domestic, running straigth pipe with no muffler passing me while the cops harrassing me. You can hear my exhaust 3 miles away but not a car with no muffler that you can tell is running some fuckin cams?

[95zilvia]

hahahaha
driving while asian
omg hahah, so true.

[sw20>>s14]

..."a law enforcement officers judgement"...


Since when :bowrofl:

FUCKING FLAMING

i guess you didnt know? recently, they changed the law regarding noise level. before if you got pulled over for an exhaust and got a ticket you could fight it if the cop didnt use a decibel meter...now, they dont have to use a decibel meter...whatever they say is too loud is considered too loud...so a cops definition could vary from le mans c6 to stock e36 throaty to an 87 camry with a whole in the muffler loud...meaning, "a law enforcement officers judgement...

keep in mind, this is regarding getting a ticket for noise level, not whether its smog legal...

[fliprayzin240sx]

whats noise level ticket in cali now??? Last i heard it was like $120-130. The last cop who pulled me over said "anything aftermarket is illegal" Im like WTF? So opening a muffler shop in cali is a bad idea since its aftermarket, hence your whole existence as a shop is "illegal." I guess smog legal exhaust dont mean sheit now huh? So now wuts the difference between a smog legal exhaust and a 50 state legal one? 50 state meet the old 91db noise requirement?

[mastaflash05]

damn that sucks guys. its all about the money realy. it said so in the article. im so glad i live in quiet little ohio now.

and if they start the stuff with "illegal aftermarket exhaust", then shouldnt the damn exhaust shops in the area get shut down. those exhausts they are replacing on those cars isnt OEM, therefore aftermarket.

and about the noise, my car has a greddy exhaust, and its prety quiet out of throttle. ive heard cars with exhaust leaks that were louder, but it looks like it would be loud.

heres what i say you guys do, have the biggest meet ever, and have a civil protest of some sort. drive with a pack of 300 cars from one end of the state to the next taking the most busy, high trafic routes. that or go park on the cali. dept. of transportations parking lot, then do a huge symcronised burnout. set the lot on fire!

[240m3srt]

Those with truly "modified cars" usually dont speed as much as your everyday joe. Our cars are too low, the tires to thin, and the suspension to stiff. And if you took the total number of people who die yearly from street racing i bet it wouldnt even eclipse the number of deaths due to talking on cell phones. Seriosly, why dont you see headlines like "Stupid Fucking Soccer Mom Bitch on Phone Kills Family of Four". Because that shit happens every day. Or wait, what about "Inadequately Trained High School Girl Causes Infant Death", becaus at least where i live a slug could obtain a drivers license. It should be mandatory to learn avasive manuvers and high speed car control.

I really hate to say it but street racing isnt that big of a deal. I could argue that shit in court with evidence any day of the week. So caps, save my fucking tax dollars you arent doing me a favor or making the streets one god damn bit safer.

If you do not agree with the above you are wrong or stupid. But like whoever said, its obviously about $.

[iwishiwas-all*]

someone needs to call up SEMA they got hundreds of lawers for this exact purpose to fight legislation for anit mod laws, im telling u call sema they will help.

[dvdevo]

ahh we can't really do anything. Having a modified car makes it easier for someone to stereotype you.

[S14DB]

This is classic: http://www.chp.ca.gov/cops/html/apistreetracing.html someone should sue.

How many here vote? Cause Soccer moms that talk on cell phones and send their kids thru the front windshield do...

[Sil-Abc]

lets get sema to start a petition to do something about this :D

[EEdude]

I wouldn't worry about it, because SD's Drag Net mainly focused on illegal street racing. A lot of auto manufactures have avaliable aftermarket parts for their cars now a days and you can buy a car thats fixed up with bodykit and engine mods. How are they going to stop car manufactures from doing that? If you just play it cool, then you should be alright.

[FaLKoN240]

I think the cops can tell the difference between OEM fast parts, and aftermarket. Especially FAT FMICs.

[Ritz S14]

Especially FAT FMICs.

I hope not :(
:-/

[Drunk Bastard]

ok, this is REALLY fucked up. here is my reasoning:

california has always been "cracking" down on street racers and shit, big fuckin deal. but now they have a $5million program dedicated to it???!!?!?!? BULLSHIT! what about our school systems? funding has been cut back sooo much, they could have used part if not ALL of the 5 million towards the schools. and im positive that the voters in california would agree with me too. think about it, a mother of two could care less about what punk-ricer-kids are doing in their civics at 2am, cause she is too busy worrying about how she is gonna pay for her kids schooling.


ARGH

sorry, had to vent. cause california's priorities are waaaay out of whack. :cj: :cj:

[FaLKoN240]

^^^ That's a very good points, I'd rather get killed in a street racing accident then keep having to pay these riduculous tuitions. . .

[infinitexsound]

well think of it this way the more import guys get caught and have to pay tickets, the more the state makes money........ but the idea is stupid in general, they got all there shit confused.... more and more.

like transportation for one... they keep jackin up the prices in tolls and public transportation, and for having a car..... but yet residents dont get nothing back in return just more headaches. i think CA residents are getting played in general.

[racer98]

ok, this is REALLY fucked up. here is my reasoning:

california has always been "cracking" down on street racers and shit, big fuckin deal. but now they have a $5million program dedicated to it???!!?!?!? BULLSHIT! what about our school systems? funding has been cut back sooo much, they could have used part if not ALL of the 5 million towards the schools. and im positive that the voters in california would agree with me too. think about it, a mother of two could care less about what punk-ricer-kids are doing in their civics at 2am, cause she is too busy worrying about how she is gonna pay for her kids schooling.


ARGH

sorry, had to vent. cause california's priorities are waaaay out of whack. :cj: :cj:

I know class rooms with asbestos, no a/c , old ass text books

[racer98]

^^^ That's a very good points, I'd rather get killed in a street racing accident then keep having to pay these riduculous tuitions. . .


wait I think your missing the point here there are many other problmes and there are pro-active ways too enforce other measures that can set up a place for who would like too race in a safe and legit spot I think that would be a better proactive way that the state can make money

you have too remember when you start riping personal poessions from some one they get very angry

since your so sarcastic with your reply lets here what way or idea you have that would be a better alternative think of it this way there are so many laws that just standing out side in some spots is illegal if the pace of law making keeps up this way going out side and looking at any one might be deemd Illegal soon.

[i8yourfwd]

lets get sema to start a petition to do something about this :D
Lets... anyone want to get the ball rolling on this?

[racer98]

Lets... anyone want to get the ball rolling on this?


yeah great idea but I would really like too get the follwing other forums involved too.

[i8yourfwd]

yeah great idea but I would really like too get the follwing other forums involved too.
I'm sure that other forums would jump on the oppertunity to take this program down. Think of any car out there, all those cars have forums, I'm sure all of them would be against this. We need to get this whole thing going.

[TougeRacing]

$5m on stupid s*** like this is retarded. federal funds too! and the chp get to keep the profits! wth!? dont schools need the money more than some stupid crackdown.

[Pacman]

Lets see, I have to pay $80 a semster for ROP Auto, then, in my advanced 3D class, I gotta pay for the glass to make projects (not a flat fee, its every project). They won't help pay schools money, but they can waste our time. I can't tell you how many Harley Davidsons that have exhausts that I literally had to plug my ears as they passed. How come they don't get stopped and cited?

I really think that Cali needs to get there priorities straight. A street racing program is one thing, but having people stopped just for a 2" lower suspension is crazy.

We really need to get this to other forums and have SEMA help. I've seen many laws that SEMA stopped in Import Tuner. I don't know about me, since I'm a minor, about doing anything or them taking me seriously, but ine of us really needs to let them know.

[JaeTea]

Yet another reason I'm glad to live as far away from California as possible.

+1 :cj:

I like how they show the pic of the STi, so they're gonna give tickets for STOCK CARS!?!?!

[ootranceformeroo]

I think the cops can tell the difference between OEM fast parts, and aftermarket. Especially FAT FMICs.


yeah thats why some daily city cops hassled my friend with a stock evo for thinking he had an "aftermarket fmic". fuckin dumbasses had to call to find out if it was stock or not. fuckin dumbasses.

[kandyflip445]

So they need 5 million dollars to sit at every drift/auto-x/drag/etc. event and write tickets and impound cars. Can SEMA use people from other states or only those from Cali? Everyone in Cali should print that article off and take it to their local speed shop and have everyone they can take a look at it in addition to putting it on every forum.

CHP=Chink Hatin Police. :rofl: (no racial offense is intended)

[BigVinnie]

Cali is sooooooo rediculous, it's time to kill Barbara Boxer "not literally, terrorist threat", she's the dummy that enforces these rediculously retarded laws......
Shiat is a cop really going to know when someone internally modify's a KA, and upgrades the EMS.... HELL NO!!!!!!!!
The law is retarded saying if we catch your "RICER" with an aftermarket filter we will impound your car......
Shiat I don't see them doing it too American Classics
How fuking gay is that...........
Laws are soooooo retarded!!!!!!!!!!

[alemanyS13]

I dont see any of these Harleys and Motorcycles with LOUD ASS exhaust getting pulled over?

If a cop is going to pull an import over for their "loud exhaust" than they should do that to all types of vehicles.

Smells like HARRASSMENT!

WASSUP WITH THAT BS?

[zenki240sx]

I dont see any of these Harleys and Motorcycles with LOUD ASS exhaust getting pulled over?

If a cop is going to pull an import over for their "loud exhaust" than they should do that to all types of vehicles.

Smells like HARRASSMENT!

WASSUP WITH THAT BS?

i kno huh.. wow that some gay BS..

[Pacman]

I can't tell you how many Harley Davidsons that have exhausts that I literally had to plug my ears as they passed. How come they don't get stopped and cited?
I dont see any of these Harleys and Motorcycles with LOUD ASS exhaust getting pulled over?

If a cop is going to pull an import over for their "loud exhaust" than they should do that to all types of vehicles.

Smells like HARRASSMENT!

WASSUP WITH THAT BS?
Glad I'm not the only one that feels that way...

[XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX]

nd wtf if u get pulled over for exhuast u have to take it in for inspection nd its a 35 dollar fee? nd wat if u pass, nd u get pulled over again. thats freaken dumb

[SochBAT]

Someone help me draft up a proposal.

I'll get the ball rolling so my bro doesn't get pulled for his rice.

Cali priorities suck nuts. 5mil to catch tuned cars, instead of 5 mill for schools/homeless care/healthcare/medical/hospitals/etc etc? Stupid.

Someone, email me a draft proposal and i'll send it with a petition. Anyone know how to write up an e-signature petition, or should we stick to Names and areacode, city, state? I THINK they've got a office in DB, so i can easily check it out if i pinpoint a location.

[email protected], SEND A DRAFTPROPOSAL!!!

[JuJuBee]

whatever you do, dont start one of those "online petitions" cause then you just getting your hopes up and wasting everyones time cause those dont do jack shit

[BigVinnie]

Or why don't you just email a copy of the petition to those that go out to events with the scca, or car shows. Personally I wouldn't mind going out and getting signatures, just email me the petition, I'll print a copy, get the signatures...... I'll mail it to each cali rep, and bitch ass ARNIE him self.........
I'll even have a copy ready for Barbra Boxer, let that bitch know we are pissed.........
I'm pretty shure between Zilvia, Nico, club240, phat kat and Nissanclub there are over 100,000 members.........
Don't we only need 10,000 california resident signatures to have a petition....
Forum petitions are null and void, but if the petition is set in the forums, with a legit fax number, people can sign a legit signature and send through the FAX line.... Kinda old school, but it is legit....

[JDMs13]

WOW. You guys are getting fucked over pretty hard eh? You need to get the ball rolling in more than one arena it seems. Contact SEMA, start petitions, get other forums involved. The one I like most that somone else suggested.....get a big group of modified cars, im sure if you guys put your heart into it, you could gather more than 300 cars. Roll deep. Protest. Fuck shit up. Let your rage towards this nonsense fuel you.

You californians really cant let those fuckers play you like this.

[007jpang]

.whatever they say is too loud is considered too loud...so a cops definition could vary from le mans c6 to stock e36 throaty to an 87 camry with a whole in the muffler loud...meaning, "a law enforcement officers judgement...

keep in mind, this is regarding getting a ticket for noise level, not whether its smog legal...


yah i got pulled over in daly city yesterday for
for speeding and an aftermarket exhaust...

i probably was speeding but... my exhaust is hella soft...

i told the officer that my exhaust is below 98db but he said that it does not matter cause there's a new law saying what ever that is aftermarket is illegal...

But in the end he did not give me a ticket, cause he found out that i was a student and he thought that paying for my tuition was more important than paying for a citation.

so i was just let off with a warning.

john

[FaLKoN240]

Damn, I should start saying, *Teary eyed* "But mista'. . .if you gimme this ticket, I won't be able to go to school. . .*pouts bottom lip*" LOL!

[SoCalS14]

Crazy shit. Now, I can feel better for selling the '40, buying a Jeep, and moving to Arizona.

Peace.

[mistaanime]

so stupid..there are other things to be worried about than drag racing..for the most part Modified Cars...sounds more like they are only after Japanese Modified..seriously..fuk california...already strict on emog and emissions than most places..

[Var]

The 5 millions dollars the state is spending is an investment. They're gonna make it back through citations. Our government is like the mafia, and we're living on their territory so we gotta do what they say. Unfair taxation, swindeling us out of money, unfair laws etc. We just have to deal with it. If you dont wanna deal with their bullshit, then just go buy a new car. Sad to say..you have to spend a pretty penny to get a decent performing car that would do what am s13 could do with 10k invested. I'm glad i got the vette now. No more worrying about profiling and shit. I dont even get second looks from cops unless they wanna give me a thumbs up or a hater look just cause they want one.

[BigVinnie]

Screw all this mess, I'll just register my car at a relatives house out of state, also register it as a second address for my self......Fuck these California fee's, if they don't like the money I give them in registration, the state doesn't deserve my money at all.
Fuck Cali restration fee's, and fuck the impounds......
If my car is registered somewhere else they can't do shiat.........

[SochBAT]

This makes me sad. Really really sad.

There goes my pipedreams of being a fast racer. i mean ricer.

Someone contact sema!

[nismo-S14]

God I FUCKING HATE DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!!!!

This is all about making money, If you think they give a shit about ur safety or the safety of others you are dead wrong. It's all about income for the state so they can continue their Social Programs. I getting so sick of the corruption here. The city I live in does 4th of july fireworks on the 3rd. The reason the mayor gave me was "Our city has 2 firework stands, we don't allow anyone else to put up a firework stand in our city. If we do the fireworks on the 3rd then people will be forced to buy fireworks for the 4th" When I heard this I wanted to slap the sh1t outa him.

[dct223]

veryone is tripping WAY too hard about this damn article... god damn.. i keep getting people iming me about this stupid article saying its OVER!...its not like we dont already get pulled over... ugh... its like you guys think a fix it ticket will mean your car is fucked...

CA does have fucked up priorities.. but its not like OMFG all our cars are going to be impounded now because we have mods.

-you get impounded if you are caught street racing.. or driving around like a dick, or busting donuts in a parking lot
-if you get a fix it ticket... slap on your stock part, or whatever, get it signed off and pay your 15 bucks
-if you get refed... make sure your motor is stock and just get it reffed, motor swaps are not that hard and can be done in a day, and getting stock intake or what not is not that freaking hard.

[midnight zenki]

Sucks for you guys, out in Denver we don't have anything like that at all. To NISMO-S14, dude your a fool if you think any political organization has your best interest in mind. Blamming a party as large and broad as the Democrats is straight ignorant, if you weren't aware Republicans have been in power for the last five years and your problems haven't been solved yet. :hammer:

[TougeRacing]

yeah so where does this democrat thing fit in? lol

[FaLKoN240]

That's a good question. . . wtf does Democrats have to do with this?

[nismo-S14]

Sucks for you guys, out in Denver we don't have anything like that at all. To NISMO-S14, dude your a fool if you think any political organization has your best interest in mind. Blamming a party as large and broad as the Democrats is straight ignorant, if you weren't aware Republicans have been in power for the last five years and your problems haven't been solved yet. :hammer:


I live in California, what do republicans have to do with me.

And where the democrats tie in is that they are always looking for ways to bring more money into the goverment. i.e. high taxes. I'm not saying republicans are the way to go, I vote liberterian most of the time.

[SochBAT]

Nice! Guess what guys? This stupid thing is supposedly "instituted on the first of september" and i just got rolled 3 times heading to work. Its only like, a 10minute drive, streets. Rolled once in Pomona, twice midway to LaVerne, then a third time in LaVerne. Why? Modified exhaust.

Cop1: "you're exhaust is too loud. Its aftermarket, isn't it? Aftermarket is illegal!"
Cop2: "You do know your exhaust is illegal, right? Why are you prancing around with it? License and registration."
Cop3: "Im pulling you over for your illegal exhaust."

Now here's the cool part. My dailydriver is automatic, and my exhaust is a no-name glasspack replacement mufflers, sold at VatoZone or where ever. piping is the stock 2.25'', with muffler and cat.

Told each one, 'if you wanna give me a ticket, go ahead. And make sure you give one to every Autozone, Pepboys, Pete's Mufflers, etc etc. Each and everyone of those places sells em. And being as they are illegal, they'd get tickets, right?'

Then i got a warning, and they started tailgating me with their lights on. Nice crooked cops.

[FaLKoN240]

Haha, you pwned the cops.

[SochBAT]

i forgot to add the harassment. They made me do the drunk walk thing, Count numbers, do math, ABCs, all that crap. I ended up at work like, 1hour and 30minutes late. 30minute haggle from each cop.

[FaLKoN240]

Wow, I woulda been like, "Hey, I've already been pulled over today. Had the same speech, now you're just beating a dead horse."

[Var]

I tried that once.. i had a 50 state legal muffler on my motorcycle. I got a ticket, and i told the cop it was legal. He said "That's a civil issue you can take up with the company if you'd like."

[SochBAT]

Makes me wanna pee on cops. But i know a few good cops, and they are nice and chill. I picked up a cool trick from my teacher cop friend that works pretty often for me. When get catch me doing whatever, i tell em 'can i call my boss imma be late to his house?' Cops asks "Who's your boss?" or something like that. "Oh, he's (i don't wanna give out his name cuz some people might try it themselves and fuck me over). Damn, he's going to get mad." And they go "oh, he's your boss? This is just a warning, fix that ____. And tell your boss to stop playing with choochoo trains."

[Sil-Abc]

lucky i wish i had a friend like that hahaha. when i worked at good guys in santa clara, my manager was hella cool with the san jose cops. my other manager got his speeding ticket dropped just from a phone call haha

[santacruisin]

Resurrection!!

Just thought i'd chime in cuz i just got an exhaust ticket taken care of. They got me in Daly City. I was driving hellza slow in my beemer and I got rolled by a bitch ass DC cop. Modified exhaust ticket. I sat on it for about seven months (fines got up to 300 and sumthin) and went to court for it yesterday. It only took about 30 mins for me and a friend to wrench on the car and put the oem'r back on. The judge reduced my fine to about $170 but I asked for community service instead and got 20 hrs to do in the next 120 days. The cool thing is that I work at a community based organization (CBO) so I can do my community service at work and get it signed off. Looks like I beat the MAN this time. However, I am buying a sil80 with an sr20 and if I get rolled in that thing i won't be so lucky. Frisco is cool with cops and tickets, San Mateo county can suck my sweaty, sweaty balls. sweaty

[Irukandji]

another reason for me to keep my stock exhaust^

[Tenchuu]

got two words for you. Oregon Residency.

[n2motorsports]

Are they targeting imports in LA too? my gf just moved there, second day got pulled for DWA. the car is bone stock but the cop told her the factory tint on her is300 is illegal and because she has WA plates...wtf, they pull over all out of state cars?!?!? stupid. she got away with a warning as he saw her living room in the back seat.

[psychoblue23]

I think its rediculous that we get so much attention for "modified exhaust" when I get passed by harleys and there ugly pos bikes are so loud if my window is down I have to cover my ears.. why dont they get harrased???

[Inlandsilvia]

here is what gets me...I moved from San diego to Riverside and most of the people up here drives these huge monster trucks with the lifts and hella loud exhaust systems. I know that they are louder then most imports exhuast system but, you will never hear of a off-road net to get them. Also, the old school muscle cars are way louder and most of them have non-emission stuff under there hoods and get by because their cars are old and don't have to meet the law on that. I should sell my 240sx and get a GTO and I will never get fucked with...

[SilviaDriver]

I think its rediculous that we get so much attention for "modified exhaust" when I get passed by harleys and there ugly pos bikes are so loud if my window is down I have to cover my ears.. why dont they get harrased???

http://www.hotrodthug.com/loudpipes.JPG

[mmdb]

I don't understand how having window tinting could give police officers "probable cause to stop and inspect a vehicle and its engine compartment." It seems it gives officers power for the sake of having more power (I love my country, but I fear my government).

[rps13dreams]

what if we organized a state wide protest on all freeways. I know I am probably dreaming, but we could get most of the modified cars, trucks, and motorcycles, domestics, asian, european, and make a time where statewide we all pick a freeway and start driving 5mph, shutting down peoples commutes to work and home, like the taxi drivers did in NY. We could meet somewhere important like Arnolds front lawn and have like a "million-tuner" march. Imagine the media attention we would get. We're talkin' nation-wide. Then everyone in all the other 49 states would see the bullshit we have to put up with. With Americas love of cars and the whole "James Dean is cool" background of our nation, Washington DC may be forced into doing something about the prejudice toward car enthusiasts in CA.

[TheSquidd]

That's a pretty stupid idea. That will only get every single person on the freeway AGAINST your idea. Including me. Please don't try these "rebel" tactics as they are basically the reason these stupid laws are in place already.

[rps13dreams]

Its a protest not rebel tactics.

[TheSquidd]

It's a retarded protest. It will do nothing to prove your point.

This is why Marin Luther King did so well, he used non violent protest so that it gained sympathy from all types of people, not piss off everyone.

Fail.

[rps13dreams]

No, you're right. I was just emotional about the whole thing. After thinking about it, I wouldn't want to be the cause of a major pile-up either. What is your suggestion for a non-violent protest, that will show everyone that our rights as auto-enthusiasts are being takin' away? We need to grab the attention of the nation, cause all californians have been convinced by the media that we are all a bunch of blood thirsty monsters out to run them over in our race cars. I'm not jokin', by the way.

[TheSquidd]

Yeah sorry didn't mean to be so brash about it, but its that exact thing that is causing the nation to fight against us.

As for non-violent protest of sorts, I would say, stop breaking the law. Drive safely and curteously on the streets, take the racing to the tracks, when stopped by a cop be nice and respectful. Change others opinions of us, that really is the only way. I can't say that the view of most Americans towards import car owners is far from the truth.

To help ease the hatred of Americans to Import cars, perhaps we can be more accepting of them and in turn they would be accepting of us, learn to appreciate each every form of motorsport, in the hopes that one day they may do the same for us.

Don't fight the system, but don't submit to their wills. Write letters to your congressman, woman. Contact local/American performance and aftermarket parts manufacturers and ask them for help. Companies like Eibach and K&N bring MILLIONS to the Californian state economy, their voices are much stronger than yours alone, and if these companies are a sympathetic ear, they may one day become a sympathetic voice as well.

I dunno. Just ideas.:ughug:

[rps13dreams]

I agree, but I have always been cool with the cops, that doesn't change the way the media portrays us, and that is what dictates the populous. K&N, and the like, should already be on our side. Without us, they're not making any money. And if it's illegal to use their product, They wont have many buyers. And companies like K&N, whom pay big dollars to have their products legalized, should be PISSED OFF that the cops are forcing people to maintain a stock vehicle, when they offer a legal alternative. You are right about keepin' it peaceful, but we need to have our voices heard. We need to let the majority know we are not punk kids out to cause death and destruction, rather we are passionate about our cars.

[AllenRPS13]

i wanna know 1 thing about the sacramento people, do u guys get tickets in sacramento because of the modified exhuast? i always scare to go to sacramento because of my exhaust...

[Ricks15]

You know what Fuck those sons of a fuckin bitch the God damn cops and fuckin asswipes in sacramento who aint got anything else better to do. Those fucks are fuckin raceist mother fuckers who are stupid for all I care they can all suck a big fat fucking dick, Cuz the streets and the people who fix there cars will never die those white coller dumb fucks will never win. FUCK THEM.

[mistaanime]

ok...calm down..lol...sacramento..i live here..and really theres nothing really to be scared about..i have a HKS Hi Power exhaust...and i've only gotten warned..because your not suppose to modify your exhaust in and shape or form..that what the po po told me..but..as long as you don't act like a jackass you will be fine..in most places..don't rev when you don't need to...don't street race..and just drive like a normal person..and you'll be fine.

[TheSquidd]

A bunch of crap..


lol. Wow, you truely are the voice of our peoples. :hahano:

Anyway, like I said, write your senators, congresspeople, president, whoever. Make your voice heard but in a way that supports the community in a good way. Don't go screaming fuck the police like this moron.